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Was 9/11 a false flag attack and 'Inside Job'? (GROUP POLL RESULT: 50% of you say YES)
U.S. Engineer Dr. Judy Wood Says Classified Free Energy Technology Used on 9/11 -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/8723...BIO
Dr. Judy D. Wood is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials. She is a member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM), co-founded SEM's Biological Systems and Materials Division, and has served on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division. Dr. Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics, 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992).
Where Did the Towers Go?: Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11
James Morcan wrote: "U.S. Engineer Dr. Judy Wood Says Classified Free Energy Technology Used on 9/11 -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/8723...BIO..."
Hmmm, waaaay more interested readers at Amazon! I know this is going on my TBR list!
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100%,Even firefighters and NYPD officers commented on "explosions" on ground floor and lower level floors.
Check the temperature that aviation fuel burns at and the temperature that steel support girders melt at!
Building 7 implodes and drops at the speed of Free Fall and is not even hit by any aircraft!!
Dancing Israeli's, Israeli's arrested by police in a van with trace of explosives in it, held in custody, discovered to be MOSSAD agents, sent back to Israel without full investigation or charges.
Zim Shipping an Israeli shipping freight company had two floors in the WTC, weeks before the 9/11 they totally vacated to new premises and paid a massive penalty for breach of lease!
The owner of WTC was on a dental appointment on that day, first day he had missed going in to his office for many years.
Large number of senior government officials not in their offices that day in WTC.
With the video's slowed down it is possible to see puffs of minor explosions all the way down the buildings, leading to implosion!
At the dentist? Lucky for him. Otherwise he could be dead.
Was that Larry Silverstein?
And yes, I've heard rumours of how many of the WTC and NYC bigwigs were off sick or otherwise unable to attend work that day.
Yep Larry Silverstein who had just in the past couple of months upped the insurance value on the Twin Towers!Very true about how many people were off sick that day!!
Personally, I find the official story to be laughable as the government's version sounds like the whacky conspiracy theory. So many ridiculous coincidences need to have occurred for 9/11 to have just been caused by a few lone terrorists. The inside job, by comparison, doesn't stretch belief too much.
That's the way I see it after studying 9/11 a fair bit.
John, from your time in intelligence did you ever witness any events that could be classified as a false flag op? Any mini 9/11 conducted by the CIA, MI6 or other intel agencies? For example, what about Operation Gladio?
Someone sent me this interesting blog site on 9/11 called Pakistanis for 9/11 Truth http://pakistantruther.blogspot.com.a...
This blog is set up by former U.S. Navy/United Airlines pilot Captain Dan Hanley and TV news anchor Huma Hashmi Hanley.
Here are some excerpts:
There were no Muslims involved in the planning or execution of the events of 9/11. This blog will enlighten readers of the wealth of information and witnesses available that were totally ignored or had their testimony redacted by the 9/11 Commission in it's final report.
My name is Dan Hanley and I am a Muslim American citizen and a former U.S. Navy/United Airlines pilot with 20,000 hours of flight time over a 35 year carreer in aviation. I am married to a Muslim Pakistani, Huma Hashmi Hanley, a news anchor for PTV World and previously at DAWN TV. I am also the International Public Spokesperson for the Whistleblowing Airline Employees Association and a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth. We have lived in Islamabad for the past five years. My wife and I are cofounders and directors of "Pakistanis for 9/11 Truth". I have applied for dual Pakistani/American citizenship because I also want to be a Pakistani.
9/11 was an 'inside job' and it can be proven Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with the planning and execution of the events of 9/11. It was a false flag operation.
Since September 11, 2001, the world has changed forever and words such as "Islamic fascists" and "Islamophobia" evolved even though it has never been proven beyond a shadow of doubt in a court of law that Osama bin Laden and a group of Muslim men hiding in a cave in the mountainous region of Afghanistan had planned and executed the events of 9/11. There is no hard evidence to prove that he did. His extrajudicial murder by a group of U.S. Navy Seals illegally violating the sovereignty of Pakistan on May 2, 2011 sealed his lips forever. Perhaps that was the goal all along and now we may never learn the truth...maybe.
The CIA's covert Operation Cyclone to fund the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan war in the 1980's indirectly funded Osama bin Laden. But historically, the United States has a had a bad habit of discarding their supporters when they are no longer needed to achieve their imperialistic and economic goals of global dominance.
The 9/11 Commission based the premises of their assumptions that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the crime without the tiniest shred of evidence or further investigation into the matter. The CIA produced a purported video of bin Laden admitting responsibility was a fake.
Even though the 9/11 Commission report was released years ago, there are still 28 pages that have been redacted that the U.S. government will not release. Additionally, there is critical testimony provided by individuals who appeared before the commission but was not included in the final report. Since the report was released, countless numbers of 9/11 truth groups have evolved around the world but the U.S. government employs people to publically "debunk" their facts on the internet while dismissing them as "conspiracy theory whackos".
The United States government will NEVER revisit the 9/11 Commission report nor will they EVER release the redacted pages of the report because they have much to hide since 9/11 was an 'inside job' as will be proven in subsequent blog posts. So where do these groups turn to with their substantial facts? Surely not to the United States goverrnment or to those in western Europe. Russia perhaps?
According to statistics provided by the DC-based Government Accountabilty Project (GAP) and the National Whistleblower Center (NWC), the largest whistleblower advocacy organizations in the world, less than 2% of U.S. whistleblowers are successful in prosecuting their cases. This is why corruption is so prevalent in the states. The mobsters know they can commit crimes with impunity and the U.S. government is no exception.
It is truly amazing that BBC reported that many 9/11 suspected hijackers are still alive and former FBI Director Robert Mueller admitted that the U.S. government may not know the true identities of the alleged 19 hijackers on 9/11.
An independent International 9/11 Commission in Moscow should be announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin so that ALL facts and and witness accounts may be accepted and reviewed for legitimacy. Only then can the global community receive the actual truths surrounding 9/11.
The Bush Doctrine that essentially violates UN Charter and International Law was illegally used to justifify the wrongful attack on Afghanistan, the illegal "Shock and Awe" campaign in Iraq, and the employment of drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan thus violating the sovereignty of Pakistan while causing the deaths of many innocent civilians using the false pretence of 9/11 to justify these illegal acts of war.
Immediately after 9/11, then Under Secretary of State Richard Armitage visited then military dictator General Pervez Mushariff and told him that if Pakistan did not join the United States in its so-called "war on terror" then "Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the stone age". Bravo Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Armitage, and Wolfowitz! Your so called "war on terror" caused the greatest increase in the number of terrorist groups in history!"
As a consequence, Pakistan, through its involvement, has lost 55, 000 precious lives to the tune of $70-billion dollars. The 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today, but most importantly, the 180-million Pakistani Muslims, deserve to know the REAL truth about 9/11.
Supporting evidence for this viewpoint are available on the site:
http://pakistantruther.blogspot.com.a...
American Conservative Daily News VIDEO: 9/11 NEW EVIDENCE Suggests That It Was A Planned Attack By The CIA -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZWB...
Yes I believe 9/11 was a false flag operation too. I even post about on my blog.
The thing that really troubles me about 9/11 is the plane wreckage in Pennsylvania. Take a look at the photos. It doesn't look like any plane wreckage I have ever seen on television or Internet before. One argument is that what we were shown the real wreckage, and that the real plane was shot down by the government.
Lets look at what 911 achieved, in NY serious damage and loss of life, but also the destruction of thousands of secret files held in vaults, also all the gold and actual cash that simply "disappeared.WTC 9-11 Biggest Gold Heist In History | 911justicehalifax
https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.c....
Plus it was the start of "The War on Terror" invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, it was the start of massive Islamaphobia.
Put quite simply, it was a changing point for the world!!! America has increased military presence to 174 countries, it has bombed and drone strike several countries, it has outsourced its assassinations to AEGIS/BLACKWATER, it tortures with impunity.
911 was a false flag that enabled the US Government to wreak havoc across the world!!
Also a very interesting article that includes a piece about the Pentagon on 911.http://www.rense.com/general75/folow.htm
Enjoy!!
Lets not forget that "Zim Shipping" an Israeli shipping company that occupied two floors in the WTC "BROKE ITS LEASE" and moved out just days prior to 911, costing them over $50,000 in penalties.http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/wa...
Terrorist attack or false flag???? Your choice!!
John wrote: "Lets look at what 911 achieved, in NY serious damage and loss of life, but also the destruction of thousands of secret files held in vaults, also all the gold and actual cash that simply "disappear..."Yes, John, I agree with all you say regarding the gold heist and other similar financial crimes such as covering up the missing trillions in Pentagon expenditure (as per Rumsfeld's admission to the media on Sept 10, 2001).
I'd assume these money grabs were essentially the "spoils of war" that occurred as the False Flag was raised.
To my mind, what you point out about the massive Islamaphobia that 9/11 created overnight was probably the single biggest motivation.
By the end of the 20th Century nobody feared Communists anymore, and the US was the last remaining Superpower that could probably take on the entire world and win, so there needed to be a new (fabricated) enemy created quickly...Otherwise the Military Industrial Complex would have been in danger of coming to a grinding halt as the world was relatively peaceful there for a brief moment.
That's the way I see it, but keen to hear more on 9/11 from yourself and other members who experienced this tragic event or interrelated incidents first hand.
James, your a hundred percent correct!!! The Islamaphobia that was created has enabled the MIC to really flourish, money spent on needless wars is incredible.
It has now reached a point where even if we tried to restore sanity to the world, there is such bitter hatred on both sides caused by the ongoing situations that to obtain peace in nearly impossible, war has become a "self perpetuating" business now!
Tragic when you thing that one weeks spending on war would alleviate world poverty, hunger, house the homeless and enable massive medical research but that does not earn profits for the 1% and damages the future of the "Shadow Government".
John wrote: "Lets not forget that "Zim Shipping" an Israeli shipping company that occupied two floors in the WTC "BROKE ITS LEASE" and moved out just days prior to 911, costing them over $50,000 in penalties.http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/wa...
Terrorist attack or false flag???? Your choice!!
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I think that article you linked to is worth including in full:
Attack Warnings
People Who Avoided the Airlines and the Twin Towers
Much has been reported about how warnings of attacks by Muslim extremists in the year leading up to 9/11/01 were ignored. So far no official has been fired or otherwise punished for his or her failure to act on such information.
What is more informative than who failed to act on a tip, is who acted on a tip. A number of people apparently knew to stay clear of the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001.
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Government Officials and Business Leaders
There is evidence that a group of Pentagon officials was warned to avoid the attack targets. Newsweek reported:
Three weeks ago there was another warning that a terrorist strike might be imminent - On September 10, Newsweek has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns. 1
A number of business leaders who would normally have been in the World Trade Center, were instead at a meeting hosted by Warren Buffett on September 11th at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska. That group included Anne Tatlock, CEO of Fiduciary Trust Inc., a company that occupied five floors on or above the 90th floor of the South Tower. 2 3 (This is the same Air Force Base that George W. Bush would fly to later that day. It has an underground command center.) 4
San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown admitted to having received a warning from what he described as his airport security late Monday evening, just hours before the attack. 5
Salman Rushdie, who is under the continuous protection of Scotland Yard, was prevented from flying on September 11th, 2001. 6
On 9/11/01, Jim Pierce, cousin of President Bush, was scheduled to attend a conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower, where his company's New York offices were based. But the conference was moved across the street to the Millennium Hotel, because, the story goes, the group was too large. 7
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Privileged Companies
Another group of people that received warnings in advance of the attack were employees of Odigo, the instant messaging service. Two employees received e-mail messages two hours before the first World Trade Center assault, predicting the attack. 8
According to reporter Christopher Bollyn, Zim American Israeli Shipping Co. broke a lease in order to vacate the World Trade Center just days before the attack. Bollyn's source claims that Zim's lease extended through the end of the year and that the termination cost $50,000. 9
The company heading a consortium that had just obtained a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center was supposedly spared by a last-minute cancellation. According to the New York Times, Silverstein Properties had planned to meet on 9/11/01 on the 88th floor of one of the towers to "discuss what to do in the event of a terrorist attack," but cancelled the meeting Monday night "because one participant could not attend." 10
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/wa...
Of course James, all of these absences were "coincidences"So were these!!
http://newsone.com/742485/the-11-most...
Another reason I happen to believe the mass populace cannot understand the concept of dark elements embedded in governments killing thousands of their fellow citizens in events like 9/11, is because most common citizens are good honest hard-working people and don't think in such selfish, malicious ways. The public's disbelief is a compliment to most people in that they cannot even conceive of such orchestrated/calculated evils. Sean Stone once commented in an interview that only 5% of the population are sociopaths, but 95% of those in elite positions of power are sociopaths. Those positions of power would include the most senior officials and primary decision makers in military, intelligence, politics, banking and federal governments.
Sociopaths (aka psychopaths) obviously rise to the top more easily in certain industries where dark, aggressive behaviour is needed to get the job done. The rest of us would question whether certain things are ethical and even refuse to complete some assignments and disobey orders if we deem the action to be immoral...But sociopaths would never even question, let alone disobey orders from above...All they care about is prestige for themselves, no matter what the collateral damage...
A good example of this phenomenon was revealed by former NSA contractor and author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man John Perkins. He mentioned that the NSA's tests for potential new candidates are secretly designed to detect during interviews who is a sociopath and who is not. And guess who they always hire? :)
The way modern military training also desensitizes soldiers to killing via video games and other simulation technologies, also seems to confirm that sociopaths are what's often required.
I wrote more about the ideas of the sociopaths amongst us causing many of the world's problems in this separate discussion thread here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
So if this subject fascinates anyone else, feel free to add your ideas to that discussion topic.
Also, one point of clarification in case anyone may misunderstand: I believe the vast majority of people in governments and the military and intelligence agencies are good people. I am only talking about the bigwigs in these sectors...The Dick Cheneys and the Tony Blairs and the Bushes and the Kissingers of the world...These types of nasties are singlehandedly able to undo the otherwise good and humane work of entire administrations or militaries...
James Morcan wrote: "Another reason I happen to believe the mass populace cannot conceive of dark elements embedded in governments killing thousands of their fellow citizens in events like 9/11, is because most common ..."Once again my friend, you are so right!!!
James Morcan wrote: "Another reason I happen to believe the mass populace cannot understand the concept of dark elements embedded in governments killing thousands of their fellow citizens in events like 9/11, is becaus..."As you say in one part of your comment re video game players!
"The way modern military training also desensitizes soldiers to killing via video games and other simulation technologies, also seems to confirm that sociopaths are what's often required."
The US airforce is RECRUITING civilians as "drone pilots" they are searching via NSA for young civilians that are "hot shot" video war game players. There were several approached when i was in Vegas recovering from the op, my son in law knew one of them!
John wrote: "As you say in one part of your comment re video game players!"The way modern military training also desensitizes soldiers to killing via video games and other simulation technologies, also seems to confirm that sociopaths are what's often required."
The US airforce is RECRUITING civilians as "drone pilots" they are searching via NSA for young civilians that are "hot shot" video war game players. There were several approached when i was in Vegas recovering from the op, my son in law knew one of them!
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Wow, that's interesting, although doesn't surprise me.
I suspect for some of these young bucks killing civilians with drone strikes might feel about as real as killing fake people in video games. And if they can do such strikes remotely from inside the US or UK then they would never see or learn much about the damage they are causing to communities around the world...
As Brando said at the end of Apocalypse Now: "The horror, the horror."
But of course, we as Westerners are superior to these other lowlifes around the world, right? I mean, we are the free world and we stand for liberty for all peoples, right? ;)
John, have you studied US engineer Dr. Judy D. Wood's theories concerning 9/11? Or read her book Where Did the Towers Go?: Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11?If so, what do you think of her assessment of the technologies used on 9/11?
Breaking a lease doesn't suggest foreknowledge to me. Why not just move out quietly? The lease won't be a problem.If this was done by elements within our government and/or private industry, it had to have been very compartmentalized. The participants would have to be true believers. There haven't been any credible leaks about these events. That is surprising so either it wasn't planned and executed here or the participants were all completely on board.
I've come to believe we'll never really know what happened that day. The official story is too full of holes. There isn't enough evidence to fully credit any opposing explanation. All we have are a lot of things that don't add up. I won't list them all here but there are a lot of things I have questions about.
I thought the jet in Pennsylvania was probably shot down but that they didn't want to admit to shooting down a civilian airliner. I'm not sure how that fits with any narrative.
Many people simply do NOT believe that the US Govt, President and close advisers could possibly commit such a horrific act or allow such a horrific act to happen.They also do NOT want to believe that members of the US Intelligence services could have been behind/ involved in and assisted in this act!!!Please folks, if you do nothing else, please read Whiteout, CIA Drugs and the Press by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey Sinclair.
There are numerous references to other books, publications, official documents at the end of each chapter.
You will read a litany of CRIME, MURDER, DRUG DEALING, FALSE FLAGS, EXPERIMENTS ON AMERICAN CITIZENS, SPRAYING CITIES WITH BIOLOGICAL WARFARE SPRAYS IN THE USA.
It also goes into the removal of presidents of countries, assassinations,names names and dates, a brilliant book that will dispel any thoughts you had about, WOULD THE US GOVT DO SUCH A HORRIFIC ACT AS 911.
This short video is well worth a look... What happened the day before 9/11? (CBS News report) -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9006...
The Pentagon receives the lion's share of the US tax payer's dollars.
36% goes to current military expenses. 18% goes to what's called "past military" which includes veteran's pensions and medical benefits.
The US spends more on its military than the following countries COMBINED: China, Russia, Britain, France, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, India, Brazil, Italy, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, and Indonesia.
Where does the money go?
At least 25% - and some estimates are much higher - goes down a rat hole unaccounted for and never to been seen again.
The above CBS news report ran the day before September 11, 2001. The problem since then has become exponentially worse.
Nice video. I do know that much of the unaccounted funds go to black box projects or groups that are unofficially on the US payroll but are paid handsomely.
Stephen wrote: "Nice video. I do know that much of the unaccounted funds go to black box projects or groups that are unofficially on the US payroll but are paid handsomely."Yep.
So the next time ANYONE says universal public healthcare would be impossible to afford, or that homelessness or extreme poverty are far too expensive to eradicate, we should all just quote the above military expenditures and thereby kill such ignorant arguments in an instant ;)
It is certainly a shame of how much time, energy and financial expenditures go into supporting the military. Imagine all the humanitarian and scientific good that could be done in the world if the global war machine was abolished.
James Morcan wrote: "Stephen wrote: "Nice video. I do know that much of the unaccounted funds go to black box projects or groups that are unofficially on the US payroll but are paid handsomely."Yep.
So the next time ..."
1 weeks spending on war would alleviate, hunger, poverty, unemployment, homelessness, allow massive research into disease, help cure the sick.
BUT, the big excuse the US/any government would make is, "if you make it too easy for people they won't work"!
Last years Save The Children figures put child mortality under the age of 5 in the 6 million mark because of hunger, disease, unclean water, malaria.
1 child dies of the above, every 4 minutes!!!!
So apart from what the Pentagon can't account for, what about CIA "Black ops" money, what about the gold and cash that was in the Twin Towers on 911?
I know some "people" that were in Iraq, they had pallets with $100 bills nicely covered with sheets of plastic, each pallet either $100,000 or $500.000. This was to pay informants, no accounting, no signature.
Some of these guys have very nice homes now and nice cars!!
Money, especially "black money" breeds corruption!
If any business ran like that of the US government, they would be both bankrupt and put in jail all within the first day of opening.
This 50 second video is an eye-opener:No plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11 -- Aired once on CNN and never aired again https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9010...
A CNN interview with a journalist who was at the Pentagon when supposedly a 757 jet hit.
The TV reporter says he went right up to the spot and saw NO LARGE WRECKAGE whatsoever.
Standing on the grounds of the Pentagon, the reporter states "no evidence of a plane at all."
James. During 911 I was not far from DC, and the immediate report that I heard that day was that a bomb went off inside the Pentagon.However, what is equally concerning to me is the presumed Flight 93 crash site in Pa. Take a look at this video. It is definitely eye opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS79p...
Stephen wrote: "James. During 911 I was not far from DC, and the immediate report that I heard that day was that a bomb went off inside the Pentagon.However, what is equally concerning to me is the presumed Flig..."
Hey Stephen, I watched that video, thank you.
It is staggering how little debris were at the "crash sites" of the Pentagon and Philadelphia.
Normally, as you know, passenger jets leave a massive amount of debris, sometimes for miles, when they crash.
Also, these holes in the ground and the Pentagon building are TINY holes!
Another thing possibly worth adding is inside jobs and other similar crimes are beyond Left or Right politics. Rather, they are about evildoers in power who pretend to stand for either the Left or the Right, but actually are neither - they simply are the Elite. And the Elite never cares about the common people, they only say they do.
Personally, I think it's time people wake up and stop promoting Left or Right politics as being the ultimate solution to these problems, as that's all part of the elite's paradigm created to enslave. And it's a paradigm that forces nations like the US or the UK to divide and conquer themselves with half the population always fighting against the other half of the population (aka their fellow citizens)...which distracts us from the real issues like our nations being involved in constant wars which are slowly but surely bankrupting us all...wars that were caused by terrorist events like 9/11 (which may not have been terrorist events, as this group is uncovering...).
I say it's time to unite.
My two cents!
Donald wrote: "Here's an article I wrote yesterday on this subject: https://donaldjeffries.wordpress.com/..."Excellent article, Donald, and a very astute summary of the last 14 years since 9/11.
One thing I wonder, would it be possible to ever run an administration if the US government admits one day in future the likes of 9/11 being a false flag (fake) terrorist attack or that the Vietnam War began with a false flag incident (Gulf of Tonkin)? Or that JFK was killed by a shadow government or other rogue elements in the government/military.
Were these types of crimes ever admitted to, would it be possible for the people to trust politicians ever again? Or would there be a state of anarchy? How bad would the people react if right now Obama came on TV and came clean on everything?
There have been sooooo many lies and episodes of propaganda, how would an honest leader even begin to set things straight?
9/11 *RARE* CLEAR Video of WTC Building 7 Controlled Demolition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v...9/11 First Hand Accounts of Explosions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fshcm...
And the truth shall set you free...Veteran NYC Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open & Confirms "9/11 Was A False Flag Operation" (aka Inside Job) https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9014...
James, that video of WTC Building 7 collapse would make even the most ardent skeptic rethink their position. If that did not look like a perfectly executed demolition, I don't know what does. Here is quick video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnuFA....The question remains that if explosives were used to help collapse the twin towers after the planes hit, how could they have been placed so covertly?
David, nice article. One wonders how the world would be the twin towers never fell. It's sad to see how the world is much worse off now than it was on 9/11.
Stephen wrote: "The question remains that if explosives were used to help collapse the twin towers after the planes hit, how could they have been placed so covertly? ..."There are various theories about how the explosives could have been planted (probably not that difficult, considering the size of the towers and all the space within).
One theory was expressed by an ex-CIA agent turned whistleblower who claimed to have been associated with the (CIA) masterminds behind the 9/11 false flag attack. I forget the name of the agent, but it was a female, and she said there was a repainting job of the towers in the days leading up to the attacks. And so they were able to plant explosives then - within the paint itself I thought she said.
However, when it comes to what explosives were used on 9/11, I tend to believe the theories of U.S. Engineer Dr. Judy Wood who says classified free energy technology was what was used, as per this video: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/8723...
And as per her book:
And actually, if Dr. Wood is correct, then I think this Tesla-style technology could be done remotely and not necessarily by using planted explosives.
James Morcan wrote: "Stephen wrote: "The question remains that if explosives were used to help collapse the twin towers after the planes hit, how could they have been placed so covertly? ..."There are various theori..."
During the preceding 6 weeks to 911 vehicles carrying "construction workers" arrived at Twin Towers and Bldg 7 each day, at around 2am, they left at around 5am, the "workers had complete acess to the buildings and had top level clearance!
FACT NOT FICTION!!
James, your two cents, are worth a million $'s my friend!! The "elite" do not care about civilian casualties, American or otherwise!People need to wake up!
This is not about "left versus right"! Even feeble minded politicians think it is, but it certainly is about the 1% or less, protecting what is theirs and finding new ways to enhance their already massive fortunes and nothing must be allowed to stand in their way!!
Stephen wrote: "James. During 911 I was not far from DC, and the immediate report that I heard that day was that a bomb went off inside the Pentagon...."It's funny how bombs became planes once the mainstream media reports on such incidents, isn't it?
Especially when they are very unusual planes that don't leave much wreckage, corpses or passenger luggage!
I'm told that the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon defied the laws of down draft and hit right where the DoD investigators with all their files on the missing trillions were behind the impact point! Of course none of the files survived the crash! (thanks John Banks, I'm half quoting you there.)
Stephen, are you able to elaborate on the immediate reports you heard on that morning when working in DC? For example, were you working with other doctors and did they hear the same reports? And did you hear these reports from the media, or was it from other people in D.C.? Also, how soon before the reports of a bomb were replaced with reports of the mysterious plane?
James, when I was in Baltimore, which is in close proximity to Washington DC, I heard about the bombings. Because the hospital I was training at, the University of Maryland, is a level one trauma center, we were initially told that we may receive casualties coming up from Washington DC. Initially, we heard from certain faculty that the trauma victims had been secondary to a bombing. However after we later "learned" on the news about the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, it was assumed that the initial information that we received was incorrect, and we quickly disregarded that report. It was not until some questions arose about the validity of the Pentagon story that I ever recalled hearing about the bombings.
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