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Haha Andy that's a lot of caveats!! But I understand, sometimes it's fun to revel in something even if it's very clearly of an era or not something we'd pick up if it was written today.
Sarah, there does seem to be some bloat to the hyped fantasy books, doesn't it? It feels a bit to me like the "throw the essays down the stairs" method of grading.
Sarah, there does seem to be some bloat to the hyped fantasy books, doesn't it? It feels a bit to me like the "throw the essays down the stairs" method of grading.

I've also found books which are labelled or marketed as adult which "feel" very YAish to me. One example is Poison Study. And I remember there was this big stink over Warm Bodies because people were calling it YA and the author got all in a twist about it. (It certainly read YA to me, personally.)
I keep desperately hoping someone will coin a phrase for that YA feeling so that YA can go back to meaning "appropriate for a tween/teen audience" instead of being hacked to describe that style with purple prose and a fixation on romance and protagonists who are the best in the world but no one likes them etc etc.
I feel like it's a subgenre at this point and it's a beloved one, so it should have some sort of name.
I feel like it's a subgenre at this point and it's a beloved one, so it should have some sort of name.

So much bloat! I feel like the hyped ones are always 500+ pages.
I actually have a few super long reads plotted for the next few months. The Stand was supposed to come off hold like 4 days ago, and then Chuck Wendig releases Wanderers in July, and I'm really hoping one of them satisfies my need for an epic.

This seems urgently necessary and yet, for reasons I don't really understand, very unlikely. I also want a clear category for books that (a) feature adolescent protagonists and (b) have been written with an adult audience in mind.
Travis wrote: "Allison wrote: "I keep desperately hoping someone will coin a phrase for that YA feeling so that YA can go back to meaning "appropriate for a tween/teen audience" instead of being hacked to describ..."
YES!
YES!

That would be a great weekend read. It's fun!
Sarah wrote: "So much bloat! I feel like the hyped ones are always 500+ pages."
This one's a standalone, right? Got to get everything into the one book, y'know. ;)
On to my own reading, I'm currently finding myself midway through a bunch of things. The main one is The Onion Girl, which is my first Charles de Lint. So far (about 100 pages in to a 600+ page book), a little slow.


Agree on both counts, Colleen!!
Beth, I hope Onion Girl turns out to be a pretty sort of flow at least. I liked the one book I read of his, and want to read more!
Beth, I hope Onion Girl turns out to be a pretty sort of flow at least. I liked the one book I read of his, and want to read more!

It ain't bad! The contemporary-to-fantasy ratio is slightly too high for my taste, is all.
Beth wrote: "Allison wrote: "Beth, I hope Onion Girl turns out to be a pretty sort of flow at least. I liked the one book I read of his, and want to read more!"
It ain't bad! The contemporary-to-fantasy ratio ..."
Mmm, that's fair.
It ain't bad! The contemporary-to-fantasy ratio ..."
Mmm, that's fair.

yes, The Name of the Wind, Assassin's Apprentice, and The Dragonbone Chair fit in that category
and @ Beth, that's the 8th book in a series, I'm not sure I would have started with that one. Maybe Moonheart would be a good one

Catching up a bit ...
Just an fyi: There's a prequel: Harrison Squared. It was, justifiably, marketed as YA, but is quite readable, and frequently funny and thoughtful, sometimes simultaneously.
I'm currently reading The Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter, in which Theodora Goss gathers the daughters of certain noted Victorian gentlemen ( and one pre-Victorian gentleman) for an adventure of their very own. Naturally, Holmes and Watson make an appearance because even Victorian fantasy can't be written without them.

I gave it three stars because it did have some high points (and I was being genero..."
Grr, that's disappointing. I guess maybe I'll put this off for a little longer. I was really looking forward to it, but I just don't have the energy for unnecessarily long books right now.

The suggestion is appreciated, but it's a buddy read, so it's the one I'm gonna read! ;) The large number of secondary characters do feel more like callbacks than fully-fleshed people specifically developed for this book...


I know you said you liked the lore of The Raven Tower and this is chock full of lore.
Just for me- I feel like I’d rather focus on character actions/interactions.
Although- lore wasn’t what held those last 200/300 pages back now that I’m think of it.. yeah maybe you should wait.

I know you said you liked the lore of The Raven Tower and this is chock full of lore.
Just for me- I feel like I’d rather focus on character actions/interactions.
Althoug..."
Lore is good, but I'm not sure I would have enjoyed it in the Raven Tower if that had been 800 pages long... I'll probably wait and see if it shows up as a BR or group read in any of my groups.

Totally recommendable is the audio-version narrated by Tom Sellwood. He is fantastic! He lives the story.

Me too. That and The Ruin of Kings have both looked super promising, so it's a bummer to hear it's falling short...

Thanks! I really loved the first two of those, so I think I'll push the third up to sometime soon.

I gave it three stars because it did have some high points (and I was being genero..."
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. I already had misgivings about adding it. I think I will hold off.


I loved the last 1/3rd of Rolling in the Deep. I didn't care for any of the characters; but the mermaids were awesome. Very different than what has been portrayed.

I loved the last 1/3rd of Rolling in the Deep. I didn't care for any of the characters; but the mermaids were awesome. Very different than what has been portrayed..."
I don’t know if I consider you fortunate or deprived for missing out on 80s schlock monster movies. These mermaids are straight out of Humanoids from the Deep.


Are you serious?? ……. I love good, old b-movies. I am definitely checking that out.
I will still take these murderous mermaids, though.

Oh god yes, that would be so nice.

Humanoids from the Deep aspires to being a B movie. 😂 It’s available for free on YouTube. Enjoy!

This was one of the reasons I bought a Kindle. I can carry almost 300 books with me anywhere and it weighs less that a small paperback

Humanoids from the Deep aspires to being a B movie. 😂 It’s available for free on YouTube. Enjoy!"
Oh Gawd, this doesn't sound good; but I am a complete nerd and have nothing better to do than read, garden, work, read, garden, work.


I re-read Beowulf in a different translation and was interested in the changes between the two I read. It's fun seeing what sticks out to translators and poets.
This was a set up for reading The Mere Wife, whose title and blurb do not do it justice. This book is FANTASTIC. If you like mythology, feminist allegory and stunning prose, this needs to be on your radar. I really don't have words for how good this was.
I also read and enjoyed The Vela, which I thought did a decent job showcasing each of the writer's talents.
I'm almost done with Assassin's Apprentice, which is everything I was promised! Such a fun epic fantasy, I'll definitely be reading on.
But not immediately. Now is for The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet and getting a head start on next month's reads which I KNOW is cheating, you can waggle your finger. Too great, can't wait.
This was a set up for reading The Mere Wife, whose title and blurb do not do it justice. This book is FANTASTIC. If you like mythology, feminist allegory and stunning prose, this needs to be on your radar. I really don't have words for how good this was.
I also read and enjoyed The Vela, which I thought did a decent job showcasing each of the writer's talents.
I'm almost done with Assassin's Apprentice, which is everything I was promised! Such a fun epic fantasy, I'll definitely be reading on.
But not immediately. Now is for The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet and getting a head start on next month's reads which I KNOW is cheating, you can waggle your finger. Too great, can't wait.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Galileo's Daughter: A Historical Memoir of Science, Faith, and Love:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Women & Power: A Manifesto:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
The Truro Bear and Other Adventures: Poems and Essays:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Along with some others in the group, I reread Beowulf. I chose the Tolkien translation, which is in prose instead of verse but still manages to *sound* beautiful. That was in preparation for The Mere Wife, which is everything Allison says it is. I just loved it and can't stop thinking about it.
I also read The Dragon Keeper, which by far is my least favorite of the Elderlings books. I'll definitely keep going in the Ran Wild Chronicles, though, because I suspect some of my dislike stems from the publisher's decision to split what should have been one book into two.
Now I'm reading The Dispossessed as part of the yearlong Le Guin challenge. One chapter in and WOW!
I'm also really looking forward to the buddy read for Servant of the Underworld.
Travis wrote: "I reread The Scarlet Letter, which is a richer and more magical book than any of us gave it credit for being if we only read it in highschool. I mean, one of the chapters is titled "Th..."
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what you think of the Dispossessed!!
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what you think of the Dispossessed!!


I bought the 3 book compilation and I'm not exactly thrilled with it. It's not bad, but I wasn't exactly thrilled with it. I love Django Wexler and Joe Abercrombie, so it's not the continual war that's the problem. The second book is more interesting so far.

I hear you. I learned about it as one of the April rereads. I'll chime in there; discussion starts tomorrow.

Thanks Pam. Somehow an errant little letter d had attached itself to the end of the link. This is the right one:)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Thanks Phyrnne.


I also started Spinning Silver to get ahead on the group read. I keep falling behind on the group reads, but I really wanted to read the ones in May, so I'm starting early. I'm already about 15% into it and it's great so far.

I have had this on my list forever. I really need to get around to it.
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I gave it three stars because it did have some high points (and I was being generous) but there was just not enough content there to carry all 800 pages. It felt like it was trying to fill in every last time gap so that there was no jumping around in the story but it wasn't necessary. The characters and their relationships felt pretty flimsy too which was probably the biggest issue.