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Elizabeth
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Jul 17, 2016 12:31AM
and yes, so sorry, Patti.
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I'm sorry to hear that Patti, so sad that she thought life wasn't worth living at such a young age. That's a lovely quote Jim - I kind of disagree with you Elizabeth, I think it's easier to come to terms with when it is someone older who has experienced life, rather than someone young who hasn't, although I do appreciate we don't want them to go.
If it helps, and it probably doesn't I read an article about teen suicide by the brother of a lad who killed himself. He said that it's a case of changing perspective, that rather than leaving too soon, the person stayed as long as they could.It's harsh. Her poor parents. Thinking of you.
M.T. wrote: "If it helps, and it probably doesn't I read an article about teen suicide by the brother of a lad who killed himself. He said that it's a case of changing perspective, that rather than leaving too ..."That's another lovely way of thinking out it
Desley (Cat fosterer) wrote: "I'm sorry to hear that Patti, so sad that she thought life wasn't worth living at such a young age. That's a lovely quote Jim - I kind of disagree with you Elizabeth, I think it's easier to come to..."I do appreciate the logic, but I don't think emotion always responds well to logic, however well meant. I quite simply feel that unnecessary death is tragic at any age, and apportioning degrees of tragedy as a means of consolation doesn't work for me on a purely personal level.
So sorry to hear about your second cousin Patti.Commiserations to others who have lost family and friends recently.
I'm so touched by words I saw in the Nice matin yesterday. We took the children to see the stars in the sky, not that they should become them.
So true Lynne - very moving words
Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "I'm so touched by words I saw in the Nice matin yesterday. We took the children to see the stars in the sky, not that they should become them."
They are very moving
Elizabeth wrote: "I quite simply feel that unnecessary death is tragic at any age, and apportioning degrees of tragedy as a means of consolation doesn't work for me on a purely personal level. "I think the thing that always strikes me about the loss of any young life, is the what might have been. What they could have contributed. What they could have experienced. Instead, a final full stop.
When researching my Family Tree, I found one of my ancestors died at the age of 2...... from starvation ! Even though it happened in 1840, it really touched me. I wondered if her living a full life would have altered our family dynamics - daft, I know, but you do wonder!
That's why people had large families in those days, Flo. It's also why immigrant families from countries where there is a high infant mortality rate have large families when they settle here. It's something that takes a couple of generations then it corrects itself.
I think it was possibly more to do with the fact that her Mum died from TB 2 days before her. She possibly had the TB while she was carrying her - so maybe she didn't thrive from the time she was born. It's just that it really hit me and made me want to turn back time and go to look after her. 2 of the boys in the family then ended up in the workhouse ! How on earth do you choose family members for something like that??
It isn't a choice really, Flo. They end up in the workhouse because they are too young to work in the factories, etc. A few years ago we visited Styal Mill and saw the weaving machines in operation. At the time they were proud of the fact that they only had 30% fatalities, whereas a lot of the mills around Manchester were at up to 60%. We also visited the school where the children were educated until they were 12. The beds they slept in were so short as the kids were too, mostly due to poor nutrition. They also had to work in the Mill when the classes had finished.
Sorry to hear about your loss Lynne and Patti, any death is sad but at 16, we there are no words that can cope with that. Sending love.
Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "It isn't a choice really, Flo. They end up in the workhouse because they are too young to work in the factories, etc. A few years ago we visited Styal Mill and saw the weaving machines in operati..."
Strangely enough - the two boys that went to the workhouse, were from the older part of the family. I took it that they were the "chosen ones" because they would need the most food.
Thanks for your kind words, all.
My Great-great Aunt died back in Spring 2015 but it was money she had put in a bond for me when I was little that we were able to have our lovely weekend away in Paris. I'm remembering her with fondness, thanks, gratefulness and a little sadness because she used to sew all her own clothes and I've only discovered sewing now that she has gone. She would have been so happy to know how much happiness her investment brought us :o)
That's lovely Jud - happy memories!
So sorry for your loss Patti, that is just terrible. 16 is no age at all
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainme...She wasn't really a celebrity but her voice is more famous than you would think, it's a shame that her work was allowed to go uncredited or the credit given to the actress she was dubbing for. Stunning talent.
Yes, Jud, and thanks for alerting us. She had a wonderful voice and contributed a lot to many films.
They actually mentioned her on BBC News last night at the end, and showed a few short clips of the films where her dubbing was used.
A priest has been killed by a knife wielding ISIL convert in Normandy. How very, very sad.
It's all very sad - the whole world now has to be alert as it seems "they" (loners, misfits, ISIL devotees, and fame chasers) will strike anywhere.
I hadn't realized until this morning that the people killed in Japan by a knife-wielding madman were all disabled until it was mentioned by a disability blogger this morning. What a coward.
Alicia wrote: "I hadn't realized until this morning that the people killed in Japan by a knife-wielding madman were all disabled until it was mentioned by a disability blogger this morning. What a coward."Apparently he was a former worker at the care home, so knew just how to get in. :(
Pam wrote: "They actually mentioned her on BBC News last night at the end, and showed a few short clips of the films where her dubbing was used."Yes, it was a fascinating piece wasn't it
Funnily enough I had heard of her years ago, knew that she had dubbed the 'posh' singing for Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady and Deborah Kerr in 'The King and I' but I didn't know about Natalie Wood in West Side Story or the high notes for Marilyn Munroe in Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend.
Just read that Jerry Doyle died, aged 60. He played Garibaldi in the Babylon 5 science fiction series - Jerry Doyle.
Pam wrote: "Just read that Jerry Doyle died, aged 60. He played Garibaldi in the Babylon 5 science fiction series - Jerry Doyle."That's sad :(
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Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)
(last edited Jul 29, 2016 01:30AM)
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Well, at least he escaped the curse of Babylon 5 for a long time.http://www.imdb.com/list/ls056207990/
Was 60 though and quite a few of them died at that age or 59 it seems.
Tim wrote: "RIP Kenny Baker :( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainme..."Thanks for the link. I loved Time Bandits, too.
David Rappaport from the Time Bandits died 25 years ago and it seems incredible that that film burst on our screens in 1981!!!
Willy Wonka is dead!RIP Gene Wilder...
Gingerlily - Mistress Lantern wrote: "Willy Wonka is dead!RIP Gene Wilder..."
I love that film
That was one of my favourite books as a child, but I only saw the film in the last few years.
RiP Gene Wilder. My favourite of his was Young Frankenstein.
T4bsF (Call me Flo) wrote: "RiP Gene Wilder. My favourite of his was Young Frankenstein."Oh yes, thats brilliant!
Yes. But I shoot with this hand.
I hope there is an afterlife; then he'll be with his Gilda again.
Loved Willy Wonka and Young Frankenstein, but I'll always remember him most for The Producers.RIP
The number of films he is remembered for go on and on: Silver Streak, Stir Crazy, Young Frankenstein, The Producers, Blazing Saddles.RIP Gene, I hope it wasn't the sedagive.
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