Goodreads Librarians Group discussion
note: This topic has been closed to new comments.
Serieses!
>
Is this a series?
Moloch wrote: "Thank you: 200 & 201 doneThis one https://www.goodreads.com/series/7027... I think can be deleted?"
I don't know what the policy is regarding the Thousand and One Nights (I would think it's just like that Stephen King series of short stories, and allowed to be a series), but I do know that these have been combined incorrectly: https://www.goodreads.com/work/editio...
Mod
Missed your comment before, rivka. I'm not familiar with the different editions, but I'll try and have a look at the Dutch editions one of these days.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/7766...*Both series already exist on GR.
Went ahead and deleted it. The Portuguese publisher is called Verbo. Verbo Infantil is obviously their children's book section.
Are literary magazines such as Granta and Bête Noire supposed to be series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1041...
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1624... (http://www.betenoiremagazine.com)
Do you think this is a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1456...
I think not, but I hesitate before deleting a "series" with thousands of books
Moloch wrote: "Do you think this is a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1456...
I think not, but I hesitate before deleting a "series" with thousands of books"
Hmm, I don't know. It says this collection has been translated in 43 languages. Many of the Swedish translations, f.e., have been published in the Alhambra Pocket Encyclopedi, so you could say it is also regarded as a series in Sweden. I don't know about other countries.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1395...I'm not seeing what makes this a series. I read about 6-7 descriptions and saw no overlapping characters.
Moloch wrote: "Do you think this is a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1456...
I think not, but I hesitate before deleting a "series" with thousands of books"
What. The.
That person is still active in doing whatever with that series, so someone should probably contact him, if it's not a series, so he won't spend another 4500 hours on it.
Lobstergirl wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/series/1395...I'm not seeing what makes this a series. I read about 6-7 descriptions and saw no overlapping characters."
I guess according to the author's site, there's a bunch of overlapping characters and such.
See: http://www.karenrosebooks.com/books/r...
And: http://www.karenrosebooks.com/characters - many characters in many books, a lot of inter-connectivity.
And if you look at that link, she does list a reading order, which is mirrored on the GR series link.
See:
IMO, it's a series, even though the series name is pretty generic. :-)
Lobstergirl wrote: "Moloch wrote: "Do you think this is a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1456...
I think not, but I hesitate before deleting a "series" with thousands of books"
What. The.
That..."
I have just contacted him; I hope also rivka can check this out
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1456...
HelloI think it's a series, as all these books were written for the first time to be included in it
Just like this another series:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/5445...
You can read more about Les Que sais-je in the (fr) wiki:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Que_sai...
It would be good to know now whether this is (or is not) a series. There are still around 3,000 titles to add ;)
Oscar wrote: "HelloI think it's a series, as all these books were written for the first time to be included in it
Just like this another series:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/5445......"
I think that short introductions is not a series either. I think it is a publisher imprint.
I agree publisher imprint, listopia should be used to group these not the series functionality
Oscar wrote: "HelloI think it's a series, as all these books were written for the first time to be included in it
Just like this another series:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/5445......"
Paula wrote: "I agree publisher imprint, listopia should be used to group these not the series functionality"
Oscar - with listopia you are allowed to add only 100 titles. I don't know if a super can add more, but if you need someone to do 100 titles, I would be willing to help. Please start a new thread.
#227 - I did not think so, but would not hurt to wait for a staff member to respond.
Since "Que sais-je" hasn't "characters and/or universes in common" I agree, that isn´t a series, sensu Goodreads. Withdraw the task right now :)However, I think there should be a structure or scheme under which these works could be grouped, like the "Very short introductions", "La Bibliothèque de la Pléiade", "The Library of America" or "Sepan cuantos..." collection, as are ordered sets with features in common, and with some kind of significance.
Particularly, these bookshelf "Sepan cuantos..." I made some time ago, it is consulted (and they have thanked me) widely by my fellow Mexican readers, since the editor itself still does not have an official list of the collection (!), and these are books that the vast majority of readers in Mexico, and perhaps in some other countries in Latin America have read at least one, or recognize them at first sight. The same happens in France with the "Que sais-je".
Sorry if my English makes me look, rude, impolite or silly XD
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Oscar - with listopia you are allowed to add only 100 titles. I don't know if a super can add more, but if you need someone to do 100 titles, I would be willing to help. Please start a new thread. "
Let me read a little about listopia and analyze what we can do with it
Oscar wrote: "Since "Que sais-je" hasn't "characters and/or universes in common" I agree, that isn´t a series, sensu Goodreads. Withdraw the task right now :)However, I think there should be a structure or scheme under which these works could be grouped, like the "Very short introductions", "La Bibliothèque de la Pléiade", "The Library of America" or "Sepan cuantos..." collection, as are ordered sets with features in common, and with some kind of significance."
Characters and/or universes only count for fiction books, for non-fiction it is a useless criterion. That's why this thread exists :)
But "La Bibliothèque de la Pléiade" and "The Library of America" are definitely not series in the Goodreads sense, but publisher's collections, just like "Oxford World's Classics" and "Penguin Modern Library". These collection titles (and numbers, if applicable) are added in the edition field.
I know very little about Listopia. Is there a point in making a listopia for all these titles?
lethe wrote: "I know very little about Listopia. Is there a point in making a listopia for all these titles? "If they aren't a series, it's the only way at GR to get the titles collected into one list. With thousands of titles, I'm not sure it makes sense, but it's not my list/collection.
Characters and/or universes only count for fiction books, for non-fiction it is a useless criterion. That's why this thread exists :)As if the only visible criterion for defining a series applies to works of fiction and the "Que sais-je" aren nonfiction, can be noted that:
> They are original works, written specifically for the collection
> They keep numerical order, that is chronological, but there is no continuity in the contents of the volumes of the collection
> Some other language editions have been published in various collections ("¿Que se?" in Spain, "Breviarios" in Mexico, in Sweden, as you said before, and so) with other numbers, or only some numbers from the original collection, or with no number at all, or as independent works
But "La Bibliothèque de la Pléiade" and "The Library of America" are definitely not series in the Goodreads sense, but publisher's collections, just like "Oxford World's Classics" and "Penguin Modern Library". These collection titles (and numbers, if applicable) are added in the edition field.
Right! These are series of classics that were originally published outside of any series (or in a series, as La Comedie humaine).
I know very little about Listopia. Is there a point in making a listopia for all these titles?
I don't think so, considering that is used to make lists of "Top 100" and would be insufficient for the +4000 books in the collection
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: If they aren't a series, it's the only way at GR to get the titles collected into one list. With thousands of titles, I'm not sure it makes sense, but it's not my list/collection."
Nor mine either. I did not create the Series :)
Oscar wrote: "I don't think so, considering that is used to make lists of "Top 100" and would be insufficient for the +4000 books in the collection "It isn't just for works of "Top 100" - my comment above is that an individual GR member is limited to adding 100 titles to any listopia. Listopia usually has many more than 100 titles.
See the numbers of books on these popular listopia:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/popula...
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Oscar wrote: "I don't think so, considering that is used to make lists of "Top 100" and would be insufficient for the +4000 books in the collection "It isn't just for works of "Top 100" - my comm..."
Oh, I see. We need at least 41 users to fill up the list :)
It could be. I would like to read more opinions. Someone should first decide whether the series is deleted?
Mod
People are holding off for now in case someone wishes to copy the data somewhere else before it is deleted.
rivka wrote: "It's not a series by Goodreads standards, and it will be deleted.People are holding off for now in case someone wishes to copy the data somewhere else before it is deleted."
Ok. I keep all data in a excel sheet (available for anyone interested), including editions not in the goodreads data base.
Oscar wrote: "I keep all data in a excel sheet (available for anyone interested), including editions not in the goodreads data base. "It might be just as easy to upload this Excel file to Google.docs and make it available for sharing to anyone with a link. You could put that link on your profile. In that way, people who are interested would have access to the list.
rivka, what do you think about the literary magazines in msg #215?https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Mod
lethe wrote: "Is there a point in making a listopia for all these titles?"Not really. The idea that something that people hoped would be a series but GR ruled would not be a series, would instead get the 2nd prize of being a listopia, was just something dreamed up by staff. Maybe with a 3,000 vote limit it would make more sense, but with a 100 vote limit, why even bother?
Listopias are supposed to rise organically from the user ether, not be the consolation prize for something else users actually wanted.
In any case, there are already 2 listopias for the Oxford Very Short Introductions series:https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/2...
Which reinforces that you should please check to see if the list you want to create already exists....and avoid what billions of users do, create redundant lists.
Lobstergirl wrote: "Listopias are supposed to rise organically from the user ether, not be the consolation prize for something else users actually wanted."Right!
#241-242 rivka wrote: "They are borderline cases."Thanks, rivka. In that case, I'll leave them be, but now I'm even more confused as to what constitutes a series. The Bête Noire magazine publishes stories in one particular genre, I believe, but Granta publishes fiction and non-fiction by various authors and based around one theme per issue. There is no connection with other issues that I can see, except they all look alike, but so do the Que sais-je ? booklets.
246 looks like a imprint/collection from a publisher.
#246-247 Definitely a publisher's collection and not valid for the other editions/languages: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1..."Coleção lançada pela Salvat no Brasil a partir de 2013."
Pretty sure this is a publisher imprint, but wanted to be sure: https://www.goodreads.com/series/8325...
Zebra is/was an imprint of Kensington Publishing Corp and I'm guessing Heartfire was a line of that. Sort of like Harlequin Presents or some such.
Delete?
Asteropê wrote: "Pretty sure this is a publisher imprint, but wanted to be sure: https://www.goodreads.com/series/8325...
Zebra is/was an imprint of Kensington Publishing Corp and I'm guessing Hear..."
I'd say imprint
This topic has been frozen by the moderator. No new comments can be posted.
Goodreads Librarians Group
Books mentioned in this topic
Planet of Slums (other topics)Love & Other Detours: Love & Gelato / Love & Luck (other topics)
The Blind Geometer (other topics)
Tequila (other topics)
Fastest Girl in Town (other topics)
More...
Authors mentioned in this topic
Jane Aiken Hodge (other topics)Jane Aiken Hodge (other topics)
Илья Франк (other topics)
Then yes, the parts should be primary, not the collection. But it should stay as part of the series.