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April 8, 2016
welovethebeekeeper:
I’ve hated Mary Morstan for forty years. So I admit I am biased. But this Mary,...
I’ve hated Mary Morstan for forty years. So I admit I am biased. But this Mary, in BBC Sherlock, has waaaayyy more to hate than her predecessors. She is arrogant, entitled, manipulative, rash and vindictive. She arrived on the scene and played ‘cute’, and sadly I watched as many fans opened their arms to her as the promised female lead the show needed. As if there was a spot waiting for her in a new triumvirate on the show. Sorry, but this story is about two people. Two people who are perfect for each other. There is, and never was, room for Mary, hell, even Doyle knew it. Yet we had the rise of the marystans, and the idea of The John & Mary show with baby and kooky uncle. WTF? Are we that in need of female representation that we invent ridiculous traditional boring 1950s scenarios for this female character?
We can watch some kick arse glorious females in Orange is the New Black, or Sense 8. If you want great female roles they are out there. [Yes I adore those shows] And I believe we are going to get Mary/AGRA as a great villain who will be worthy of the title and inspire shock and awe, as well as hate. Which is fine by the way, great villains are hated. It’s a love/hate thing and it means that the writers and actors did a great job.
You see for me there is the disappointment that some people want to play het doll house with these characters, not able to see the joy of a same sex couple’s life play out on the screen. And don’t talk to me about head canons! There is precedence here for Sherlock and John, over 125 years of it, and they deserve their time to be publicly acknowledged as a couple. Every other ship detracts from that. Sorry but it does. Even Sherstrade, Sheriarty etc. It’s about John and Sherlock, that’s the whole point.
So as we hear feedback from the read through that Amanda is stealing the show, let’s relish that as Mary is going to go meteoric in her BAMF role. Let’s not tie her to the kitchen sink, and certainly not the one where Sherlock and John make their tea.
Abso-fucking-lithely. Well said!
cosmicgoat:
sherlockstuff:
What Benedict Cumberbatch thinks...
What Benedict Cumberbatch thinks of (pocket) Martin Freeman ッ
remember this happened
April 7, 2016
conversationswithbenedict:
inevitably-johnlocked:
may-shepard:
shercock:
kellpod:
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Mary shot Sherlock. He died, came back to life. “That wife…. John Watson is definitely in danger….” Mary told him not to tell John. Mary intended on killing Sherlock at Leinster Garden when she was actually pointing her gun at John. She could have shot him. Mary has no remorse when John yells at her for having lied to her … all this time.
And there are people who skip past these scenes. Literally forget. On purpose.
Mary shot Sherlock: Yes
He died, came back to life: Debatable. Sherlock most likely had a shock and therefore suffered a cardiac arrest (which doesn’t mean death by the way, if that was the case, stabilizing someone after their heart stopped beating would be impossible). There are other explanations that totally make sense to ‘these people who skip scenes’.
Mary told him not to tell John: Be honest, you would do the same.
Mary intented on killing him at Leinster Gardens: No, she had to intimidate him, so he won’t dare to tell John.
Mary has no remorse when John yells at her for having lied to her: You do not know Mary and therefore you do not know how Mary deals with feelings.
At the same time, is it okay for you that John shot and killed a man for somebody he only met a day earlier? Is it okay for you that John had ‘bad days’? Is it okay for you that Sherlock is basically the biggest arsehole on television history?
But ignoring that: Here you have our explanations. We do not forget or skip any scenes, sweetheart. Thank you.
I was going to ignore this post, but some of it so so laughable I had to reply. Okay SWEETHEART, CUTIE PIE DOLL. Let me be honest with you.
“Mary told him not to tell John: Be honest you would the same.”
In what century do you take me from? For starters, I wouldn’t shoot someone to bloody protect myself. Second off, why… would I …. do the same? Why would I keep this horrible thing I did a secret? There’s a thing, sweetheart, called conscience. Unless you’re a psychopath, it eventually gets a hold of you.
“Mary intended on kill him on Leinster Gardens: No, she had to intimidate him, so he won’t dare tell John.”
Before she demonstrated how good of a shot she was, she asks him (while pointing the gun at John) if he’d like her to try again. Maybe even be successful this time. She only changes her mind when Sherlock reminds her that her face is on the exterior of the building. Hmm. Yeah, better put that gun down.
“Mary has no remorse when John yells at her for having lied to her: You do not know Mary and therefore you do not know how Mary deals with feelings.”
Listen, smarty pants, neither do you, but I’ve actually done research on how assassins are trained. They’re trained to not have emotions. They’re trained to manipulate. They’re trained to kill and to protect themselves from being found. They can lead double lives, just so long as their friends and family never get wind of the assassin’s actual identity.
And in conclusion, for you information, John killed the cabbie because that man was dangerous and was used by Moriarty to kill people. That cabbie almost made Sherlock swallow poison. But John stopped that. John has bad days because of he was fought in the war and has PTSD. (Actually, not anymore, thanks to Sherlock. They cured each other.) And - NEWSFLASH - everybody knows Sherlock is an asshole! No surprise there. But ever since he met John, he’s been gradually softening. He has a heart.
I know for a fact shippers like yourself skip scenes because you want Mary and John to live happily ever after, well … ahem, another newsflash. The show is called Sherlock and it’s about him and John. I treat every scene fairly and I make sure to not be so biased, and I never skip scenes.
“Look, I know I’m married to your best friend - the person you’ve said you ‘love and care about most in this world’ - and I know I’ve now proven myself to be dishonest and a risk to their safety, but do me a solid and don’t tell them I literally shot and threatened to kill you for no good reason, k? :) Just so I can continue to get them to believe the lie that is my life and identity. Thanks ♡”
You’re right. So relatable. I can totally see myself doing that :)
He died, came back to life: Debatable. Sherlock most likely had a shock and therefore suffered a cardiac arrest (which doesn’t mean death by the way, if that was the case, stabilizing someone after their heart stopped beating would be impossible). There are other explanations that totally make sense to ‘these people who skip scenes’.I know if I were a doctor, I would walk away from a patient who went into cardiac arrest. Like I would see this:
And I would just like, chill out for a while until they stabilized on their own. Turn the lights down low, dismiss everyone.
Just like, let the patient, idk, marinate for a while? Because when your heart stops, you’re like a steak. You need to just be left alone for a bit.
Because people come back from that shit spontaneously all the time. And when they do, no need to look surprised or anything.
I wouldn’t like, be surprised at all when the heart monitor started bleeping again. No big. There’s time to get everyone back in.
You can high five your teammates, knowing everyone’s had the chance to idk pee or get a coffee while the patient regenerated all on his own on the table.
See? The look of a man who knows he did the exact right thing.
(Debatable my ass.)
Adding my 2 Cents:
Mary is Possessive
Mary is Cruel
Emotionally Abusive to Both Sherlock and John
She Forced John to Propose to Her
Mary Meant to Kill Sherlock and Returned to Finish the Job
She Would Have Killed John at Leinster Gardens
Sherlock is Terrified of Her and Thinks She Will Attempt to Murder Him Again
PLUS: My Masterpost on MaryAlso: Sherlock believes Mary murdered him:
MYCROFT: You saw the whole room when you entered it. What was directly behind you when you were murdered?
YOUNG SHERLOCK (sounding petulant): I’ve not been murdered yet.
MYCROFT (leaning down to him): Balance of probability, little brother.Look, I absolutely LOVE Mary; she’s an interestingly complex character. But the narrative arc supports her being a villain. She absolutely murdered Sherlock and is absolutely not nice. The only reason people sympathise with her is because she’s “cute” and “funny”: This is a common technique psychopaths and emotional abusers use to gain people’s trust.
Also, let’s not forget that Sherlock walked in on her about to shoot and kill Magnussen, so that he wouldn’t out her to John. Out her about what, you ask? Oh, you know, her previous job. No, not at the clinic. At the assassin death factory, where she was responsible for the deaths.
consultingcaitlin:
Just a side note on the “Did Mary mean to kill Sherlock” wank:I’ve seen a couple...
Just a side note on the “Did Mary mean to kill Sherlock” wank:
I’ve seen a couple posts which seem to think a little cardiac arrest is more along the lines of having a bad day, rather than being really quite dead.
Don’t believe what movies and television tell you.
IRL, survival rates of external defibrillation after a cardiac arrest due to traumatic injury are fairly dismal, hovering around 18-25 percent from what I can glean, and have not improved much in the past 40 years…and the improvement gained is entirely due to the increased use of AEDs installed in public places.
Sherlock’s survival was an absolute miracle…and also a bit of cheap emotional shorthand, which Mofftiss is never, ever above doing in order to underscore thier points.
In short: she totally intended to kill his ass dead, and went for the heart rather than the head in order to buy time to escape. (And also, cheap emotional shorthand. See above.)
Yes
thesetison:Setlock Recap, 4.7.16
Loo was filming today at an undisclosed location.
Dominique Arthur...
Setlock Recap, 4.7.16
Loo was filming today at an undisclosed location.
Dominique Arthur (costumes) tweeted a picture of some new gloves, but it’s unclear if they’re for her or for Sherlock.
Arwel Wyn Jones (production design) tweeted pictures of Emelia Ricoletti’s tombstone and Dafydd Shurmer (art direction) in an undisclosed location. Speculation on the latter focused largely on John and Mary’s flat, possibly a nursery.
Babywatch was a bust–though a newborn had been requested for filming in Cardiff, we got no confirmation today of whether or not that was indeed for Sherlock.
We got our first pictures of any of the regular cast on set, with pics of Martin and Amanda filming inside Mint and Mustard in Penarth. The pics were likely taken yesterday, as there was no filming confirmed there today.
queenofnobullshit:
deducingbbcsherlock:
*pokes head into setlock tag*
In that photo, the Watsons...
*pokes head into setlock tag*
In that photo, the Watsons are having dinner at Mint and Mustard, an Indian restaurant.
*returns to lurking*
God, I missed @deducingbbcsherlock
Mary furvor today
Wow there are tempers flying today and angry zingers posted by and between Mary fans/stans and the anti-mary brigade!
Over, apparently, a photo of John and Mary dining together, and the past few days rumors of a baby.
Wherefore? We knew at the end of HLV and TAB that Mary is still in the picture. So they HAVE to progress that storyline. It’s not like they’re going to just remove her between S3 and S4. Of course she’s going to have scenes with John in S4 (and probably alone scenes with Sherlock too).
I find it actually quite exciting–the idea that they might flashback to their first date. If they flashback to Mary’s past, esp her past with John, there’s NO REASON to do that unless they are going to show us an alternative view of what happened–that is, Mary insinuating herself into John’s life as a Moriarty plant. Maybe they’ll even go back to the pool scene and show her as a sniper. Or even go WAAAAY back and show us Mary=Moriarty from the start. That would be freaking awesome!
No, we don’t KNOW that’s what that photo is, but it certainly could be. Even if it’s not that, even if it’s a post-baby date, there’s no reason to assume John and Mary stay together forever. They can’t resolve Mary without working through some scenes and showing where she and John are actually at.
As for the baby… <shrug>. As I’ve said, I never bought the fake belly thing. The baby HAS to be born in order for anyone to move against Mary, whether that’s John, Sherlock, Mycroft or whomever. So please, let’s get that over with already.
As to what happens afterward, Johnlock-friendly, and not tragic, options include: a) baby is not John’s, end of sub-plot, b) Mary runs off with the baby, end of sub-plot with potential reoccurance later, or c) Mary is removed from the picture and John and Sherlock raise the baby.
I know many fans hate the idea of John and Sherlock raising a child but it doesn’t particularly worry me. I think there could be lots of fun moments there seeing Sherlock trying to interact with a baby. It would also be a good reason to keep Sherlock and John from fully getting together in S4, if John is left to raise the baby and he assumes Sherlock wouldn’t want that. That would provide another obstacle which could be resolved in S5. That wouldn’t be my first choice, but they could make it work. I just hope, if they make it a romance obstacle, they don’t drag it out for an entire fucking season.
For me, what I ultimately want is Mary out of the picture *as the wife*. She can stay as the villain or not. That, and johnlock to become canon. Whether or not there’s a baby involved is less relevant to me.
Theory of John and Mary first date
Today i thought a scene, for John and Mary setlock
I think is a flashback date and i image this:
A look of John and Mary first date (setlock photo) and in same time we listen the John’s voice
“how i didn’t understand..”
now we see a flash about Mary make a terrible thing, and after we see Ella and John in therapy in present time
“she lied to me constantly”
“John you need to move on. Forget this, forgive..”
“forget? I can’t and not forgive”
“John..”
John breathing
“i don’t like lies and.. i lied to myself too” and now we see Sherlock
nice
taikova:
“You both were very slow.”
and everything escalates...
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