XistentialAngst's Blog, page 132
June 9, 2016
thesetison:
setlockhell:
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The Lighthouse and the Trained...
The Lighthouse and the Trained Cormorant is a reference to the Veiled Lodger. It’s one of the mentioned but undocumented cases:
I deprecate, however, in the strongest way the attempts which have been made lately to get at and to destroy these papers. The source of these outrages is known, and if they are repeated I have Mr. Holmes’s authority for saying that the whole story concerning the politician, the lighthouse, and the trained cormorant will be given to the public. There is at least one reader who will understand.
So cool!
welovethebeekeeper:
byebyefrost:
hudders-and-hiddles:
thesetis...
Possible filming tonight on Charles Street in Cardiff (x)
fun fact, this was posted by a gay bar…
:>
Hey we know our own.
inevitably-johnlocked:
sussexbound:
cupidford:
miadifferent:
heimishtheidealhusband:
welovethebe...
MI6 scene: what if we discover that John went to Mycroft after The Watson domestic, demanded to know everything they had on AGRA, Mycroft and MI6 ask him to spy on her, keep her close, plan her downfall. John said he has to stay with Sherlock till fully recovered, then he’ll do it. At Xmas he starts his mission, Sherlock nearly blows it by killing CAM, that was not part of Mycroft and John’s plan. Afterwards Mycroft assures John he will get Sherlock exonerated. John keeps on with his mission. S4 episode one, things heat up, AGRA takes an assignment. For some reason John has to reveal his mission to Sherlock, they meet in the MI6 building, the only safe place for the revelation. ‘'You didn’t think I would really go back to her after what she did to you?”
Watson does really work for Mycroft. Sherlock just got the wrong Watson in his MP in TAB.
Okay the core idea here seems really plausible though. How many interviews do we have with TPTB when they basically talk about the fact that Dr. Watson is actually very smart, and very capable, and he only looks bumbling in comparison to sherlock? And then bemoan the fact that Dr. Watson gets written off as stupid?
If you’re writing from that standpoint - that the audience never expects brilliance from John - then John taking charge certainly would be, as they said it, “the very last thing you would expect.”
I love this.
What I’ve learned from TAB: the more johnlocky it gets, the more fandom tropes they’ll use. They are fanfic writers in the end. And John being on a secret mission against Mary is such a huge fandom trope. I hope they’ll go there. It’s much needed.
Re MI6. Which part of the building would be recognized as MI6? (btw do we really believe this to be true? Has there ever filming been done before? I’m a bit doubtful they would bend security protocols for a tv series)
Just some interesting info, they even had to have agents on site outside to make sure they weren’t filming things they shouldn’t when doing the Thames Path shoot.
It’s true that although we were told about the closed set we have no proof. Do we know if other shows have been able to film inside before? This website talks about it’s interior use within Bond films, but not entirely convinced if this wasn’t replicated with studio shots or other locations - I’d have to do more research. SAs were of course housed in the building next door, not in MI6.
This makes me think of that scene in TAB, where John says he is willing to walk behind Sherlock and play the fool for him, if that’s what he needs. John is willing to walk a step behind Sherlock and act dim if it means Sherlock is safe and happy.
They then discuss Sherlock holding himself to a higher standard because of John’s ‘idiot stories’ (his love letters to Sherlock, essentially, in which John is often quite the unreliable narrator, always painting Sherlock in the best possible light, always making him so much cleverer than he really is). Then, suddenly, Sherlock mentally interrupts himself with the telegram telling him that Mary is getting to the heart of the conspiracy and might be in danger.
Sherlock’s observed some of the details of what is going on, but he’s possibly not put them together correctly?
Think of the scene of John, Sherlock and Mary we saw filmed with the dog the other day. A lot of people felt John was looking too much the role of suburban dad. Mary out in front, leading the way with the dog, John trailing behind with Sherlock, his daughter strapped to his chest.
But what if this was just a prime example of John trailing behind and playing an unassuming role on purpose (not that I think being a nurturing father makes you suddenly an invisible non-entity, but given people’s general reaction to that scene, it seems a likely first impression for people to draw).
Mary also underestimates John a lot. It’s to his advantage to let her continue to see him as a bumbling fool. Remember Sherlock has observed enough of their marital interactions that when they argue in his head, in TAB, Mary tells John that all she really thinks he does on cases is tag along and take notes. So John is happy to play into that perception (tag along behind carrying the baby) if it is for Sherlock’s benefit–which in this case it would be. Let Mary continue to think she’s the one in control, continue to play the slightly dim sidekick, let her think that John is too stupid to be up to anything, and by extension keep Sherlock safe.
Because it isn’t that Mary is getting to the heart of any conspiracy, and is in danger (a theory that only presents itself to Sherlock’s mind after they discuss John playing the fool for him, and those idiot stories which are love letters in which John is an unreliable narrator). It is that Mary IS the heart of the conspiracy, Mary is the danger, and John is willing to continue the game of ‘unreliable narrator’ and bumbling idiot, because it is for Sherlock’s benefit.
John is doing what he has always done–keep Sherlock happy and safe by whatever means possible, even if that means protecting Sherlock from his own arrogance and overconfidence that he always has a plan and can fix things, solve things.
It’s an interesting idea, John having a grand plan of his own, keeping Sherlock safe, letting people underestimate him. People right now (including Sherlock to a certain extent) seem to see John as some baby-rearing damsel-in-distress. People seem to be dismissing and underestimating him, his intelligence and competence for the same reasons they often underestimate women, imo.
It’s really interesting to me, and is, I think, linked to some of the same reasons people underestimate the chances of Mary being a villain. It’s people taking traits they stereotypically associate with the feminine, like nurture, child-rearing, bread-baking, softness (think of Mary’s soft new curls and soothing blue costuming for instance) and automatically assuming that is all there is, dismissing strength and intelligence (and even evil), because those stereotypical female traits are present and in a lot of people’s minds the two can’t coexist.
The funny thing is that the writers actually addressed this issue with the band of women in TAB. They stayed at home, raised children, engaged in traditional female pursuits, and so were written off, underestimated, disparaged. But they were just as capable as anyone else. They were capable of murder even.
Sherlock thought it was just about women, but that wasn’t quite right. It was about a larger overarching problem that seeps into every aspect of society and doesn’t just cause us to underestimate women. But also anyone displaying what have traditionally been considered female traits, or even men who just don’t subscribe to all the tenants of traditional masculinity.
Sherlock and Mary, both, have ignored, patronised, and disregarded John. By the end of TAB, Sherlock is starting to see that maybe he shouldn’t. John is pretty damn smart. But I wager these new revelations will be tested this season.
YES TO EVERYTHING. I’ve often mentioned that everyone underestimates, John, especially Mary. I’ve written before about how everyone thinks John can’t lie, which is bollocks to me. This season will be John’s turn to shine, and I think he’s going to show everyone just exactly how he became Captain John H Watson.
I certainly hope this is the case, and it absolutely makes sense narratively. If the writers have John *actually* have forgiven Mary, it will be a huge OOC mistake with John (mr trust issues who killed someone who threatened Sherlock a day after having met him)
My only question is Mycroft. I would love it if John is working with Mycroft on this, but another option is that Mary has Mycroft under her thumb for some reason so he can’t or won’t work against her.
However they do it, to me they have a lot of ‘splaining to do about S3 with both Mycroft and John acting very OOC about Sherlock’s shooting. Please God, I hope they nail it in S4.
Agreed that the whole 'John is smarter than he looks’ in TAB is pointing strongly to John having a secret plan against Mary. I will be rejoicing on the day that episode airs!
June 8, 2016
thesetison:
Setlock Recap, 6.7.16
We heard about a possible night shoot scheduled for Friday night...
Setlock Recap, 6.7.16
We heard about a possible night shoot scheduled for Friday night through Saturday morning.
Supporting actor Usman Akram was on set to film something, though we don’t yet know who he is playing.
Setlock Recap, 6.8.16
We got a picture from the prop store, so perhaps they were filming at Pinewood today.
Arwel and Tom Guy (locations) made a stop at a pub called The Pelican in Her Piety.
Toby Jones’ CV was updated to indicate that he is playing Culverton Smith, the villain from the Dying Detective.
miadifferent:
sussexbound:
miadifferent:
welovethebeekeeper:
If you are doing Dying Detective...
If you are doing Dying Detective then 3 Garridebs and Devils Foot just line themselves up. They have always been the most revealing, after Sign of Four, as to the true nature of Holmes and Watsons relationship.
1. John despairs of Sherlocks drug use, jumps into an engagement in SIGN, then regrets it ( in following stories it’s obvious)
2. John sees how much Sherlock loves him in 3 Garridebs.
3. Sherlock presumes John loves him in Dying Detective.
4. They go away to Cornwall, to heal. John takes such good care of Sherlock in Devils Foot.
Now the above arc is not canon timeline. But has been consider in the Holmes/Watson romance circles as the 4 stories that illustrate the romance. In their own mashup AU way, Mark and Steven gave us the devastation of SIGN in TSoT. We will get the desperate plea for John to act out of love now we are getting DYIN. We have a hint from setlock photos that they may have done a recce on a beach for DEVI. And ep3 may very well meet our speculation and give us our 3GAR moment.
It could be happening gang! Really.
so you mean
4.1 prolonged TSoT (SIGN)
4.2 The Dying Detective
4.3 mash of DEVI and 3GAR?
@miadifferent, I’m personally kind of thinking:
4.1 - Prolonged TSoT (riffing more off of the original Sigh of Four, maybe? I’m honestly still a little confused over this episode.)
4.2 - Mash of The Dying Detective and the Three Garridebs moment.
4.3 - The Devil’s Foot, and something else (I’m not sure what yet) at the end that segues into the final act of S5.
But, it’s just a hunch.
Not sure, if this was a typo, but I love the SigH of Four!
John, Mary, Baby Watson and Uncle Sherlock. And they’re all exhausted playing happy family. *sigh* ;)
constancecream:
Culverton SmithThe Dying Detective
The Dying...
Culverton Smith
The Dying Detective
The Dying Detective confirmed! Holy shit. :-) It’s going to be good.
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