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Spotlight series #91 : Jennifer Hasegawa

The ninety-first in my monthly "spotlight" series, each featuring a different poet with a short statement and a new poem or two, is now online, featuring San Francisco-based poet Jennifer Hasegawa.

The first eleven in the series were attached to the Drunken Boat blog, and the series has so far featured poets including Seattle, Washington poet Sarah Mangold, Colborne, Ontario poet Gil McElroy, Vancouver poet Renée Sarojini Saklikar, Ottawa poet Jason Christie, Montreal poet and performer Kaie Kellough, Ottawa poet Amanda Earl, American poet Elizabeth Robinson, American poet Jennifer Kronovet, Ottawa poet Michael Dennis, Vancouver poet Sonnet L’Abbé, Montreal writer Sarah Burgoyne, Fredericton poet Joe Blades, American poet Genève Chao, Northampton MA poet Brittany Billmeyer-Finn, Oji-Cree, Two-Spirit/Indigiqueer from Peguis First Nation (Treaty 1 territory) poet, critic and editor Joshua Whitehead, American expat/Barcelona poet, editor and publisher Edward Smallfield, Kentucky poet Amelia Martens, Ottawa poet Pearl Pirie, Burlington, Ontario poet Sacha Archer, Washington DC poet Buck Downs, Toronto poet Shannon Bramer, Vancouver poet and editor Shazia Hafiz Ramji, Vancouver poet Geoffrey Nilson, Oakland, California poets and editors Rusty Morrison and Jamie Townsend, Ottawa poet and editor Manahil Bandukwala, Toronto poet and editor Dani Spinosa, Kingston writer and editor Trish Salah, Calgary poet, editor and publisher Kyle Flemmer, Vancouver poet Adrienne Gruber, California poet and editor Susanne Dyckman, Brooklyn poet-filmmaker Stephanie Gray, Vernon, BC poet Kerry Gilbert, South Carolina poet and translator Lindsay Turner, Vancouver poet and editor Adèle Barclay, Thorold, Ontario poet Franco Cortese, Ottawa poet Conyer Clayton, Lawrence, Kansas poet Megan Kaminski, Ottawa poet and fiction writer Frances Boyle, Ithica, NY poet, editor and publisher Marty Cain, New York City poet Amanda Deutch, Iranian-born and Toronto-based writer/translator Khashayar Mohammadi, Mendocino County writer, librarian, and a visual artist Melissa Eleftherion, Ottawa poet and editor Sarah MacDonell, Montreal poet Simina Banu, Canadian-born UK-based artist, writer, and practice-led researcher J. R. Carpenter, Toronto poet MLA Chernoff, Boise, Idaho poet and critic Martin Corless-Smith, Canadian poet and fiction writer Erin Emily Ann Vance, Toronto poet, editor and publisher Kate Siklosi, Fredericton poet Matthew Gwathmey, Canadian poet Peter Jaeger, Birmingham, Alabama poet and editor Alina Stefanescu, Waterloo, Ontario poet Chris Banks, Chicago poet and editor Carrie Olivia Adams, Vancouver poet and editor Danielle Lafrance, Toronto-based poet and literary critic Dale Martin Smith, American poet, scholar and book-maker Genevieve Kaplan, Toronto-based poet, editor and critic ryan fitzpatrick, American poet and editor Carleen Tibbetts, British Columbia poet nathan dueck, Tiohtiá:ke-based sick slick, poet/critic em/ilie kneifel, writer, translator and lecturer Mark Tardi, New Mexico poet Kōan Anne Brink, Winnipeg poet, editor and critic Melanie Dennis Unrau, Vancouver poet, editor and critic Stephen Collis, poet and social justice coach Aja Couchois Duncan, Colorado poet Sara Renee Marshall, Toronto writer Bahar Orang, Ottawa writer Matthew Firth, Victoria poet Saba Pakdel, Winnipeg poet Julian Day, Ottawa poet, writer and performer nina jane drystek, Comox BC poet Jamie Sharpe, Canadian visual artist and poet Laura Kerr, Quebec City-area poet and translator Simon Brown, Ottawa poet Jennifer Baker, Rwandese Canadian Brooklyn-based writer Victoria Mbabazi, Nova Scotia-based poet and facilitator Nanci Lee, Irish-American poet Nathanael O'Reilly, Canadian poet Tom Prime, Regina-based poet and translator Jérôme Melançon, New York-based poet Emmalea Russo, Toronto-based poet, editor and critic Eric Schmaltz, San Francisco poet Maw Shein Win, Toronto-based writer, playwright and editor Daniel Sarah Karasik, Ottawa poet and editor Dessa Bayrock, Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia poet Alice Burdick and poet, writer and editor Jade Wallace.
 
The whole series can be found online here .

Kristi Maxwell, Goners

 

Wood Bison
an extinction

text a future female alace hatchet,
fur à la carte, a peltgrave. The temper
part prayer, part leak,the purr all cave.
A plump hurt kept—a gruffmeal.
Grace gave tact a lamp. Thehurtle felt
my fault. Thump, thump,late heart.
Laugh a Greek laugh. Yelpmy hug. Pray
the reef make, cheer thereef up. He may
mute a pager. Errata: Hemay mute me.

Louisville, Kentucky-based poet Kristi Maxwell’s eighth full-length poetry collection is Goners (Grinnell IA: Green Linden Press, 2023), winner of the 2023 Wishing JewelPrize, a prize I hadn’t even knew existed until now. According to the back ofthe collection, Goners is the fourth winner of this particular prize, “awardedannually for a manuscript that challenges expectations of what a book of poemscan be. Named for an essay in Anne Carson’s Plainwater, the Prizechampions work that questions the boundaries of genre, form, or mode whileengaging the rich possibilities of lyrical expression.” The list of priorprize-winning titles include Dennis Hinrichsen’s schema geometrica (2021),Robin Tomes’ You Would Say That (2022) and Bruce Bond and WalterCochran-Bond’s Lunette (2023).

AsMaxwell writes to open the collection, “Extinction Is a Problem of Form: A Noteon Process”: “These poems are lipograms, writing that excludes one or moreletters. They take as their starting place the names of endangered species andemerged out of a desire to manage my own climate despair. Specifically, I’mworking with a variation of the beautiful outlaw—lipograms that do not use theletters in the title, the name of the endangered species, a variation I’ve cometo call an extinction—to explore what happens when what is endangered isinstead absent—gone.” I’m fascinated by the idea that she is exploring andexamining extinction through erasure, setting absence against absence, brilliantlyinterlocking form and content, and this is a book of extinction itself, witheach poem set with the subtitle “an extinction.” The sound and syntax ofthese poems are staccato, offering quick lines and dense lyric that write directlytoward and around each poem’s stated subject. Curiously, I’m finding that Gonersshares a syntax echo with Canadian poet Christian Bök’s infamous andaward-winning Eunoia (Toronto ON: Coach House Books, 2001), both titles offeringa gymnastic twist of sound and meaning, although Maxwell’s Goners isbuilt with narrative purpose, however blended and repurposed. The poems offer linguisticleap, sonic texture and bounce, where meaning isn’t simply the result of herparticular self-imposed structures but is part of the hand that leads. Through seventy-twopoems on seventy-two newly and recently extinct species, this is a stunning andevocative lyric with a sad prompt and important purpose.

Giant Panda
an extinction

chromosomes form self’sreef—we reek of luck.
Shells overwhelm shore’sbosom: less jewelry, more leech.
Overwhelm me, Yoko. Be myovum’s yolk.
My Elmer’s flubs, fuseslobe & bulb, skull & bloom.
Messy crumb of uscrumbles more. We’re else.
Summer schemes brooks,muumuus, church of
mushrooms—morels. We seeksome. We’re our souls’ humus,
yes? We observe lemursfloss creeks, loose
bush from rock. Reefer-less.Here, for you, four brews,
cheese, chemo for yourcells, emo for your moons. Some hero.

 

12 or 20 (second series) questions with Matt Broaddus

Matt Broaddus is a poet and writer from Virginia. His debut full-length collection, Temporal Anomalies , is now available. He is also the author of the chapbooks Two Bolts and Space Station . His poems have appeared in American Poetry Review, Annulet, Fence, and Mercury Firs. He’s received support for his writing from Cave Canem, Community of Writers, and Millay Arts. He lives in Colorado and works at a public library.

1 - How did your first book or chapbook change your life? How does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel different?

My first chapbook, Space Station, was published by a group of enthusiastic readers and editors at Letter [r] Press. This was a chapbook of hybrid prose/poem blocks set on a space station with Žižek and Warren Zevon and werewolves running around—it was pretty weird stuff, and I wasn’t sure there was any place for me to get it published. But it ended up finding the best home with Letter [r] Press, where they printed a limited run (75 copies) with such care. It was letterpress printed on beautiful paper and had Japanese stab binding in different glittery thread colors. It was this incredibly beautiful object that they made out of my words. It changed my life knowing that there are people out there who will see what you’re doing and be excited about it. There are people out there who will want to collaborate and celebrate the work you’re doing. I still feel so much gratitude to them. Writing has always been very private for me and still is. But my experience with Space Station helped me see that I should just create what I want to create. There will be people who appreciate it.

My more recent work is an outgrowth, in many ways, of my experience with Space Station. I worked with another dream press when Ugly Duckling Presse published my second chapbook, Two Bolts. UDP always makes beautiful book objects and it was no different with my chapbook. Both chapbooks make up sections of Temporal Anomalies, my first full-length book. And, again, I worked with a wonderful team—this time at Ricochet Editions. So Temporal Anomalies is basically of a progression of smaller projects that fit together into this larger book about time, Blackness, and making things.

2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction or non-fiction?

I started writing poetry as a child. But I didn’t read that much poetry as a child or even in high school. For me poetry was tied to music. My favorite poems as a young person were lyrics. I took undergraduate workshops in both fiction and poetry and pretty quickly realized plot was difficult for me and I just wanted to play with language. To some extent, that’s still the case.

3 - How long does it take to start any particular writing project? Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?

My process has changed dramatically since I began writing poems. I’m very guilty of perfectionism and this quality made writing poems an excruciating experience for a long time. But my process has started to get quicker as I shed this notion that I needed to be perfect. Both Space Station and Two Bolts had specific forms that I used to write into, that Julia Cameron/Artist’s Way idea of filling the form. So those poems were written quickly, Space Station in about a month and Two Bolts over a semester of grad school. I’ve seen my process change into one more about accumulation now. I think I learned this from Matthew Rohrer, my teacher and mentor at NYU, who encouraged me to just write the next poem. That idea made more sense to me than to bog down trying to perfect something. Of course I do revise and obsess and fight with drafts, but I try to avoid letting a single line or single poem prevent me from moving on to the next experiment.

4 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

A poem usually starts for me with a bit of language that I overhear or receive subconsciously. Many poems start with my wife, the poet Kodi Saylor, saying something incredible. I’ll often respond, “That sounds like a line of a poem,” and she’s usually like, “Well, go and write it then.” Usually that little snippet of language has some rhythmic quality that suggests a next line. That’s usually enough to get started. I let the rhythm and associations of sound and image suggest themselves and just go with it. The poem emerges. I try not to overthink it, but of course I do sometimes. Currently, I’m much more of a writer of short pieces that accumulate into a larger project. The stakes are lower for me that way which is important for me to combat the voice of the perfectionist that lives inside me.

5 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?

I used to think I didn’t like doing public readings, but I’ve done a few this year and really enjoyed them. I get very nervous about the whole process—I feel silly and inadequate reading my little poems, but I’ve tried to take a different, gentler mindset recently where I acknowledge that I can only do what I can do. I don’t have to do or be anyone else as a reader. I love reading with friends—I’ve read twice this year with the magnificent poet Kelly Hoffer and had a lot of fun both times. Those sorts of readings come to feel like they’re almost collaborative events more than the individual readings that make them up. And I get a lot of inspiration from hearing others read their work. Listening to poems leads me to write poems.

6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

I am concerned with various traditions and legacies of experimental Black artists, particularly poets. I’m interested in Black diasporic artists and arts. I’m interested in histories of the Atlantic World that lead to nation-states still wrestling with how race determines social mobility and status within their citizenship structures. Questions about how to make art (or just live a creative life) within such an economically precarious and exploitative era are also on my mind. But I have tended to approach these issues by asking questions about artistic process and what Black artists and writers are expected to do versus what they want to do. I want to have fun. I want to be surprised. Not in a flippant way, but through an engagement with other artists, other processes, and experimentation.

7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?

I think writers have many roles. They can be truth-tellers, they can imagine new possibilities, they can uncover what is overlooked or has been ignored. I’m not sure what I think the role of a writer should be, but I think imagination is key. Imagining alternatives to the world we find ourselves living in seems important. For a poet, that can happen through reconsidering how one uses language and how language is used around us.

8 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

It’s exciting to work with an outside editor. It’s someone who cares about my work and very often can see what I cannot. It’s essential.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

Persistence is more important than talent in pursuing a creative life.

10 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

I wouldn’t say I have a routine. I journal in the morning, but it’s not what I would call writing. Then on most workdays I go to my 9-5 job. Most of my writing happens late at night, usually right before I should be going to sleep.

11 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

Various places. One of the simplest ways to get inspiration is to listen to a recording of a poetry reading. There are great readings scattered all over the internet. Pick a poet you like, see if there’s a recording of a reading on youtube or somewhere else. Listening to poems begets poems.

More and more recently I’ve begun to do other arts to get inspired. I wouldn’t say I’m good at drawing but a series of blind contour drawings I’ve done has led to a series of poems in response. I’m also painting more recently. These other artforms can help me relax into writing or get excited about it again.

A lot of what is inspiring is rethinking and experimenting with process. If I’m stuck I like to try doing something different. Making a cyanotype print, for example. What does that process tell me about writing? Maybe nothing, but maybe it does show me something new, a new approach to writing. There’s also an art studio very close to my home, and I love to take classes there, especially bookmaking classes—learning how to bind books, how to make different book forms has become a growing obsession for me. Thinking about the materiality of the book form continues to inspire me.

12 - What fragrance reminds you of home?

I like the smell of juniper which I associate with the west, both California, where I went to college, and Colorado, where I currently live.

13 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

I agree with the statement that books come from books, and certainly I’m very influenced by what I read. But like I mentioned earlier, many art forms influence me. Book arts and artists books are more and more interesting to me because I just love the book form, all the variations it can take, and the physical material itself. Architecture is a growing interest. I’ve been obsessed with this book Toward a Concrete Utopia which is a collection of photographs, images, and scholarly essays on the architecture of the former Yugoslavia which was this blend of brutalism, Le Corbusier, and other local and modernist impulses. The material environment we envision and live in says a lot about the state of a society. I’m trying to get something about that across in recent poems. I’m also a huge nerd—I adore Star Trek in almost all of its iterations. I love the utopian vision, the possibilities, the challenges of imagining such a universe. Sci-fi/speculative stuff filters into my poems quite often.

14 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

This is an impossible question to answer adequately. I admire and have been influenced strongly by the work of Nathaniel Mackey, Brenda Hillman, Don Mee Choi, Tomaž Šalamun, Matthew Rohrer, Bob Kaufman, Robin Coste Lewis, Tyehimba Jess, Rio Cortez, Marwa Helal…but there are so many others I’m going to leave out here. I love so many contemporary voices in poetry and they all teach me how to write when I read their work. I think the work that Alicia Wright at Annulet and Ian Lockaby at Mercury Firs are doing is so cool and important. They are promoting the new voices, promoting translation, promoting thoughtful engagement with contemporary writing, especially poetry. And there are so many others doing this work who don’t get the credit they deserve. It’s such important work.

In terms of non-poetry stuff, I love reading histories. Olivette Otele’s The African Europeans, Michael A. Gomez’s African Dominion, and The Golden Rhinoceros by François-Xavier Fauvelle all come immediately to mind. Benedict Anderson’s Imagined Communities and Achille Mbembe’s work are exciting to me in terms of theory. Also, The Mushroom at the End of the World by Anna Tsing introduced me to a concept of precarity that now I can’t stop seeing everywhere.

But I also must say I love reading novels. I love Haruki Murakami’s novels. I love Cesar Aira’s novels. Renee Gladman’s Ravicka novels are excellent. I love love love science fiction. Ann Leckie’s Imperial Radch books are some of my favorites. Arkady Martine’s Teixcalaan series is also fantastic.

15 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

So many things. I’d like to write a science fiction novel. I’d like to do more painting. I’d like to learn more book forms and make artist books. I’d like to really learn letterpress printing—I’ve done a bit, but I’d love to have my own press or have easy access to a press. I’d like to collaborate with friends on books and maybe start a small press one day.

16 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

I’m tempted to say that if I could try another occupation I’d like to be an architect. Or work in urban planning in some capacity.

17 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

I think I wrote because it was an artform that involved time and iteration. I’m terrible at telling stories because I get distracted by providing context or setting things up. I don’t have to do that in poems. I can engage with an idea or an image or an event and write into a creative understanding of that thing. And I can actually write a series of poems trying to figure out how I feel or what I think about an object, event, idea.

18 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

The last great book I read was the first Spanish to English translation of Ennio Moltedo’s Night which came out about a year ago from World Poetry Books, translated by Marguerite Feitlowitz. It’s a book about living under the Pinochet regime. Prose poems written in this incredible style, incredible sentence structure, surreal elements and very strong language of socio-political protest and condemnation. The last great film I saw was Everything, Everywhere, All at Once . I waited a long time to see it but recently checked it out. So unlike anything I’d ever seen before, so frenetic and wild and funny. After watching it I cried in my wife’s arms for a good half hour. I haven’t been moved by a film like that in ages.

19 - What are you currently working on?

I like to have fifteen things going at once. That way if I’m stuck or annoyed with one thing I can work on something else. I’ve been doing an erasure project connected with the Corpus of Early Arabic Sources for West African History. That text is a collection of everything Arab writers had to say about medieval West Africa. Of course many of these chroniclers never visited the places they wrote about in West Africa so there are huge errors and inventions. I’ve been working through the text, doing my own erasures of these chronicles. It’s a mixture of creative play and historical investigation.

I’m also working on a series of poems and drawings in response to Toward a Concrete Utopia. My process has been to do a blind contour drawing on an image in the text and then write a poem in response both to the original image and what I learned about the image in the process of drawing it. It’s a way of learning how I make lines, thinking about space, and an experiment in the idea that there are no mistakes. Blind contour drawing shows me how I see.

I’m also working on a novel with speculative elements that’s drawing on my day job at a municipal library.

12 or 20 (second series) questions;

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Cecil Giscombe, Negro Mountain

 

There had been a gate atthe driveway, but only

the poets remained, grownover by the hedges that stopped on either side

of the entrance from thestreet. What do hills

summarize? Origin stories?Right

and left separated longbefore this. Bait me, love

—I can pass until I speak.(“First Dream”)

Thelatest from Berkeley, California poet Cecil Giscombe is the collection NegroMountain (Chicago IL: The University of Chicago Press, 2023), a collectionthat explores and articulates how history bestows and shapes names, includinglegacies of alteration, altercation, witness, erasure and the long thread.Giscombe is a poet I first heard of through his being paired with Prince George, British Columbia poet Barry McKinnon by Louis Cabri for the eighteenthepisode of PhillyTalks (February 2, 2001), a series of paired readings and conversation—the audio and transcript from which can be found here—two poets paired for their particular examinations oflandscape, history and geographic space across the extended lyric. Giscombe’sinfamous collection Giscome Road (Dalkey Archive, 1998), which originallyprompted the pairing, is an articulation of, around and through the town ofGiscome, British Columbia, a town named after one of his own ancestors, a shortdrive north-east of Prince George. Much like McKinnon, Giscombe favours thelong, lyric stretch, and I would find it interesting to hear him read certainof these poems aloud, to catch how he marks his breaks, his breath, such as thepoem “Seven Mountains,” a poem that includes “The mountaintops // are bare rockin wave-like patterns, there’s often // as not // a fat saddle between // theridges. // Who do you think you saw?” Both projects—Negro Mountain and GiscomeRoad—are specifically attuned to a history of Black settlers and a responseto those settlers, and how naming shifts, alters and even mangles acrossinterpretations. “Negro Mountain,” as he writes, named for an individual who isalmost completely unknown, but for the colour of his skin and the event of hisdeath. As he writes to open this new collection:

Negro Mountain, in theAllegheny Range of the eastern United States, is a long ridge that straddlesthe Pennsylvania-Maryland border and the Maso-Dixon Line. The ridge has beenknown as Negro Mountain since the late eighteenth century because of “an incident”that took place there in the 1750s—in a skirmish between a band of Englishspeculators, led by Thomas Cresap, and a party of Native Americans, a Black manaccompanying the English group was killed by a shot fired by one of the NativeAmericans. The Black man’s name (as it has been handed down in Pennsylvaniastories) was Nemesis or Nemises. Brantz Mayer—in his 1851 book on the Iroquoisleader Logan and the Cresap family—notes that “Negro Mountain [is] where agigantic African who belonged to [Cresap’s] party bequeathed his name in deathto the towering cliffs.”

The ridge’s name,however, has been a matter of public controversy since the 1920s when the USGeological Survey declared Negro Mountain’s highest point to be the highestpoint in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

The Black man—called Nemesisor Nemisis in the architecture of stories—who died on the ridge still calledNegro Mountain is beyond reach. The mountain—the “very long shadow”—survives.

Thecollection is shaped across a quintet of sections, akin to a suite: “SevenDreams,” “The Negro Mountain,” “Camptown,” “Overlapping Apexes (for EdRoberson)” and “Notes on Region.” Through Giscombe, history speaks as aliving, ongoing thread, one that attempts to work and rework bearings across anenormous sense of distance, both temporal and physical. There are dangerousshapes in those hills, some of which still work to reveal themselves, enough tocause any traveller to, through the finding, discover themselves lost.

Camptown’s the long footof Negro Mountain.

Please yourself, form’sharsh and anything

could slip across abridge in the wee

hours, when traffic’s notheavy, from one place

or another to Camptown.

Please yourself.

I was a ship on thestormy ocean—stay off me, brother,

I write from bottomlessdescription and

I still might be amonster. (“Camptown”)

 

12 or 20 (second series) questions with Jill Mceldowney

Jill Mceldowneyis the author of the full length collection Otherlight(YesYes Books) and the chapbook Airs Above Ground (Finishing Line Press). She is a founder and editor ofMadhouse Press. Her previously published work can be found in journals such asPrairie Schooner, Fugue, Vinyl, Muzzle, and other notable publications.

1 - How didyour first book or chapbook change your life? How does your most recent workcompare to your previous? How does it feel different?

Otherlight is my first full lengthcollection! I’m super excited about it–publishing a full length collection issomething I’ve been chasing for almost 10 years so it feels amazing to have itout in the world. I’m incredibly lucky to have been able to bring this book outwith YesYes Books–working with them has been nothing short of absolutelyamazing.

2 - How didyou come to poetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction or non-fiction?

Iactually started out as a fiction writer! I took an Intro to Poetry class in undergrad to fill my required credits. Theclass was taught by Josh Young who, about half-way through the semester, waslike “You need to be a poet.” That kind of decided it for me honestly.

3 - How longdoes it take to start any particular writing project? Does your writinginitially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear lookingclose to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?

Iwrote Otherlight very quickly. Ittook me about 3 months to write the first full draft and then I spent about twoyears revising it and rewriting it. I used to be able to write so fast–I wrote2 full length manuscripts while in grad school. Now, my process is much slowerwhich I actually think is more in line with the material that I’m writing aboutand thinking about.

Iusually start out with a plan for a chapbook and then see how things go. I lovereally concise, straight to the point books so that process really makes sensefor me.

4 - Wheredoes a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that endup combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book"from the very beginning?

I’mdefinitely a “book poet.” I don’t know if that’s an actual “thing” or not butI’m always writing toward a book or a full length manuscript. I’m not the poetwho can write a singular stand out poem. I love the challenge of working on amanuscript and the way verse lends itself to world building and creating anatmosphere. Building a world for the poems to live in is one of the most funparts of the whole process.

5 - Arepublic readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sortof writer who enjoys doing readings?

X

6 - Do youhave any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions areyou trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the currentquestions are?

Otherlight as a whole is particularlyinterested in interrogating grief–what it means to individual and what it meansto live with unresolved grief. I really wanted this book to–as closely aspossible–depict grief and the processing of loss. It bothers me when the end ofa book wraps up grief so neatly at the end and gives the impression thateverything is okay. It doesn’t really work like. In the last few poems of Otherlight I wanted my reader to get thesense that the speaker was working through their loss, their grief–but wasn’tnecessary working their way out of it.

7 – What doyou see the current role of the writer being in larger culture? Do they evenhave one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?

X

8 - Do youfind the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (orboth)?

Idefinitely have my “first readers” who I send everything to. Caroline Chavatel,who works with me on Madhouse Press, is a brilliant editor. Katherine Sullivanwas the editor for Otherlight. Working with her was so amazing–her attention todetail made the book that much stronger. It was a gift to have an editor whosaw what the book could be from the start.

9 - What isthe best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

X

10 - Whatkind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How doesa typical day (for you) begin?

I definitely don’t have a strict writing routine–I have to writewhen I can now. I'm a lawyer and that is a job that can definitely be allconsuming. I have to be kind of crafty with my time and how I work in poems. IfI have a 5-10 min break between meetings or research or drafting a legal brief,I’ll try and draft something–anything–even if its just a line. I take a lot ofvoice memos now while I'm driving and craft poems out of them later.

11 - Whenyour writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of abetter word) inspiration?

Interestinglyenough whenever I feel stuck or like I can’t write–I go read a novel. Readingprose really helps me when I get stuck. I also I have books that I just keepreturning to and rereading that just make me want to write poems. Just to namea few, some of those books are AmpersandRevisited by Simeon Berry, CarolinaGhost Woods by Judy Jordan, Fieldnoteson Ordinary Love by Keith S. Wilson, AHunger by Lucie Brock-Broido.

12 - Whatfragrance reminds you of home?

Lavender.

13 - David W.McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other formsthat influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

X

14 - Whatother writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your lifeoutside of your work?

Having a life outside ofbeing a “poet” is definitely important for me and my work. Even just having ajob that is not academia or poetry related is really healthy I think. It worksfor me. I spend time riding my horse, doing other types of art.

15 - Whatwould you like to do that you haven't yet done?

X

16 - If youcould pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately,what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

Itwould certainly be nice to be a full time writer. :) Right now I’m working intax and immigration law full time but I love poetry

17 - Whatmade you write, as opposed to doing something else?

X

18 - What wasthe last great book you read? What was the last great film?

I’mworking my way through all the books I bought while I was in law school anddidn’t have the time to read. I just finished Yellow Rain by Mai Der Vang and thought it was absolutelybrilliant.

19 - What areyou currently working on?

I’m currently working on a manuscript that is investigating adult friendships, childhood, nostalgia. I’m also heavy into the revision process on a manuscript that continues my study with grief, trauma, violence.

12 or 20 (second series) questions;

Shane Book, All Black Everything

 

Going Forward

At last the Barbudos wearsuits,
selling, selling into thedeep

rhythms of the screen
cycling its venomouslight rail

up and up, reversewaterfall
nano fork circuitousareole grease slit,

frost on the pain.
In the instep is shootingvolts.

In the walking is wisdom.
Who this man

will not stop writing?
Him is have job.

Everything amped up
is unreal-realeverything.

“Grenades detonate
when I enter thebuilding.”

It takes a muscle
to fall in love.

Thelatest from poet Shane Book is All Black Everything (Iowa City IA:University of Iowa Press, 2023), a follow-up to his Congotronic (University of Iowa Press, 2014), and a collection that Montreal poet Kaie Kellough describes on the back cover as a book that “[…] proposes an expansive,global poetics, which is equally a poetics of Black diasporan fluency. All Black’spoems ride the crosscurrents of history and popular culture through AfricanAmerica, the Caribbean, West Africa, the United Kingdom, and Canada. As referenceswhirl and constellate, All Black’s language grows dense and intricate.” Throughsharp, short lyrics, Book offers a narrative display of wild collage that providesa clear through-line, writing a mix of culture, shape, reference, sound andgeographies. His poems are rife with humour, swagger and declaration, eventurning his fierce and steady magpie gaze upon himself: “You try living in a pigeonpen above a / series of car repair shops / and love motels for a while—,” hewrites, to open the poem “I Know I’ve Reached Peak Shane,” “then come talk tome.”

Book’slyrics showcase a different kind of magpie poetics than, say, Perth, OntarioPhil Hall: whereas one might say Hall’s lyrics carry a weight and assemble asequence of light and shining objects, Book’s poems collect a myriad of momentsof weight through his travels, but one approached with a counterbalance oflightness in the line, such as across the play of poems including “The BestPozole in Santa Cruz,” “The Nervous Hunger of an Ox” or “Mexico City Stole My Wife,”a poem that begins: “Lingonberries the last diet hope, // she-blogger knitting together// a freedom, marauded through // by the state farmers and the  blue // cornet l’amour. Turns out // fingersup to the Beyoncé birthers.” There is such a joyous bounce and bop to hislyrics, one that dances across the line to further line through a sound andsyntax that refuses, much like the author, to remain still or static. To travel,as one knows, is to better understand not only home, but what we carry fromthose places we are from, and Book knows full well, exploring and examiningthreads of diasporic conversation and communities against a counterpoint ofglobalization and global politics. It is the combination of all of the abovethat provide a through-line to his own foundations, even as he offers the poem “DadBod,” that begins: “I want to be happy // fuck you. Low rider magazine //easy-load for the AK // in a Black Liberation // Army birthday // type o’ way. Firstthing // Imma do is grow // my movement beard, // feel some type o’ way. // Butyou must live // in the Midwest, // be so inside // these landscaped // breather// like a new gold scarf // underwater.”

 

Jim Johnstone, Write Print Fold and Staple: On Poetry and Micropress in Canada

 

            When considering the impact of micropress it’s importantto recognize that small publishers aren’t simply extensions of largeroperations. derek beaulieu and Jason Christie touch on the disjunction betweensmall and large publishers in a 2004 issue of Open Letter dedicated to “CanadianSmall Presses / Micropress,” positing that:

It is crucial to considerthe small press as a non-entity or an amorphous totality because to give itpre-eminence, to define the small press in its entirety, would be to make of ita structure capable of registering with the same presence as ‘CanadianLiterature’ in the media and with casual readers. The small press would then besubject to the same ideological baggage of canon formation and capitalist obligation.

At the hear of thisargument is thee notion that micropresses have the power to equalize thepublishing landscape. But if they’re hard to define, and nearly impossible totrace, then how do they democratize, and who benefits from their presence?
            Part of the answer lies with the authors who close micropressesover the continuum of publishing houses that publish trade books. There’sfreedom in printing material without bowing to the pressures of commercial expectation—acommitment to the art of writing itself. Saying this, I’m less interested inthose who use micropresses as developmental territories, levelling-up totraditional publishers when they’ve established a presence in the literarycommunity, than those who commit to disseminating their work ephemerally, evenafter publishing trade books. Authors who traffic in chapbooks and pamphletsare able to distribute material that wouldn’t fit, or is frowned upon at largerpresses, highlighted by transgressive, unusual, or unpopular subject matter. Inthis way, they benefit from the creative potentiality of micropress, whichallows for risk and encourages publishing in real-time.

Iwas very pleased to be introduced to Toronto poet, editor and publisher JimJohnstone’s latest, the small critical folio Write Print Fold and Staple: On Poetry and Micropress in Canada (Kentville NS: Gaspereau Press, 2023). Thistitle is so new that he’s travelling around with copies as part of a tour for hislatest poetry title [see my review of such here]. The book exists in threeparts: “Write, Print, Fold, and Staple: Four Principles of Micropress,” “StartSmall, Stay Small: Khashayar Mohammadi and the Creative Potentiality ofMicropress” and “In Praise of the Mayfly: A Survey of Canadian Micropresses.” Johnstoneapproaches this critical folio as not simply someone interested in the form,but as someone existing deep within the consideration and ecosystem of smalland micro press. Johnstone is a writer, editor and publisher, having co-founded Anstruther Press in 2014 with his wife, Erica Smith (a press still verymuch active), and more recently, editing full-length collections throughPalimpsest Press, as well as the occasional anthology. He not only understandsthe ethos and approach of small and micro press publishing, but is an activeparticipant, having been such for quite some time, and he opens his overviewwith a description of his own small press beginnings, from working sixteenissues of Misunderstandings Magazine, his time as part of Cactus Pressto his eventual co-founding of Anstruther (he also guest-edited an issue of GU E S T [a journal of guest editors], produced through above/ground pressnot that long back).

            Since these origins, one of Anstruther’s main initiativeshas been to form an editorial collective to scout manuscripts from poets acrossthe country. The net cast by having editors in cities like Halifax,Fredericton, Montreal, London, and Vancouver means that we’re able to tap intowriting communities outside central Canada, and at the same time extend thepress’s visibility to writers looking to publish first chapbooks, both of whichare important parts of our mission. Moreover, pairing poets with editors hasallowed those involved in the Anstruther bookmaking process to develop experienceon either side of the publishing divide.

Whatis most compelling about this small folio is in just how effectively it worksto provide an overview of some of the small and micro-press publishing activityin Canada at this particular moment, providing information on the nature of chapbookpublishing, and focusing on a wide range of publishers currently and formerlyactive in various corners of the country—something that had previously been thepurview of journals such as the late, lamented Open Letter: A CanadianJournal of Writing and Theory (1965-2013). Honestly, I can’t even think ofa Canadian overview since that particular issue of Open Letter thatJohnstone quoted above, the “Canadian Small Presses and Micropresses” issue,guest edited by derek beaulieu & Jason Christie (Twelfth Series, No. 4:Fall 2004). Also, the 1989 issue that holds ten interviews with British Columbia poet/publishers, conducted and edited by Barry McKinnon, is alsopretty cool. Curiously, the focus on Toronto-based poet and publisher KhashayarMohammadi in the second chapter is interesting, offering an example of a writerand translator able to get work out into the world that might have been difficult,if not impossible, without the assistance of small press:

            Mohammadi’s trajectory is an exemplar of the kind of markan author can make by staying small. Moe’s Skin is an ambitiousbeginning, consisting of a single long poem with multiple sections. Printed onyellow cardstock, its cover features a Velvet Underground-like banana peeledback to reveal a figure that looks very much like the author. While the bookonly retailed for $10, it’s thirty-two-pages long, and was hand sewn in anedition of one hundred copies. Contrast this with what came next for Mohammadi—theperfect-bound, Coach House Books-printed Dear Kestrel, published by Knife|Fork|Bookin 2019—and you have an illustration of how varied micropress endeavours canbe. For my money, Dear Kestrel is the most aesthetically-pleasing objectKnife|Fork|Book has published to date, with 80 lb Mohawk Loop Straw cardstockused for the cover, overlaid with tan ink so that the title almost looks likeit’s been burned into wood.

TheCanadian small and micro presses that Johnstone gathers and discusses as partof his survey, each with an individual write-ups (with full-colour photographsof titles by each), include above/ground press (1993-present), The Alfred Gustav Press (2008-present), Apt. 9 Press (2009-present), Baseline Press(2011-present), Collusion Books (2020-present), Ferno House (2009-2014), Frog Hollow Press (2001-2022), Gap Riot Press (2017-present), Jackpine Press(2002-present), Junction Books (1999-present), Knife|Fork|Book (2017-present),Model Press (2020-present), No Press (2005-present), Rahila’s Ghost Press (2017-2022)and Thee Hellbox Press (1983-85; 2005-18). Obviously works such as these rarelyaim to be complete, but I would have been curious to see his take on pressessuch as Proper Tales Press, AngelHousePress, puddles of sky press, The Blasted Tree or Simulacrum Press, for example [see a further list of active Canadiansmall and micro presses at the Small Press Interactive Map curated by Kate Siklosi], or even Gaspereau Press itself. Either way, this is one of the most comprehensive critical titles I’veseen on contemporary chapbook production in some time, and a fantastic introductionto both an opening as well as a deeper understanding of contemporary publishing.As he writes of his own approach to publishing and production, one might evenconsider this an ethos for all the editor/publishers mentioned, a question posedbefore citing the four principles of small publishing (ideal units for poetry,value in small, chapbooks are democratic and large presses depend on the small):

Assembling books by handhas stuck with me, and one of the reasons I’ve been able to persist is thatAnstruther titles are produced in much the same way as the books I made inelementary school—folded and stapled—only now with the aid of a printer andphotocopier. These are the tools of the trade for those interested inmicropress at a base level, a place where many poets learn and expand theircraft. But who chooses to stay small? And is there value in ephemeral,hand-distributed material in the digital age?

 

12 or 20 (second series) questions with Lynn Tait

Lynn Taitis a Toronto-born award-winning poet and photographer residing in the land ofthe Anishinaabeg people, now Sarnia, Ontario, where she lives with her husbandRobert. She has published poetry in major magazines and journals since 1978including Contemporary Verse 2, FreeFall Magazine, Windsor Review, Vallum, Feathertale Review, and the LiteraryReview of Canada, as well as in over 100 anthologies. Her poems have placedand been shortlisted in various contests. She has published a chapbook, Breaking Away, and co-authored a book, Encompass I. Her photography/digitalimages have appeared on the covers of nine poetry books. She’s participated inworkshops with Patrick Lane, Susan Musgrave, George Elliot Clarke, Di Brandt,Alice Major, Ellen Bass, Marie Howe and Karen Solie, John Sibley Williams, MarjHahne, Lisa Richter and Kim Addonizio. She is the co-founder of a long runningworkshop which included James Deahl, Norma West Linder and Venera Fazio; Committee Member/Organizerand MC with James Deahl for the Bluewater Reading Series 2014 -2016. LynnTait is an associate member of The Academy of American Poets, full member in The League of Canadian Poets, a member of The Ontario Poetry Society and The Writers’ Union of Canada. Her book You Break It You Buy It is now available through Guernica Editions, and localbookstores. She is working on her second book of poetry titled The Realm of InBetween.

1 - How did your first book or chapbook change your life? How does yourmost recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel different?
It didn't. I had to be talked into it. I really loved/love submitting tomagazines and journals, so wasn't yet thinking beyond that when the offer camein from Bunny Iskov to please, do a chapbook and she would publish it. Thetitle: Breaking Away meant a lot to me though. I was breaking away from mymother's influence which was very freeing.

2 - How did you come topoetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction or non-fiction?
I'd written small compositions since I was nine. I was maybe 12 years old,writing a journal, living in a very oppressive household where it was best tokeep one's mouth shut. Journalling was the only way I could let anything out.My mother found it and there was hell to pay. She didn't care for myobservations or opinions. I was punished severely, but I still had to get"stuff" out. I started writing poetry, and realized my mother had noidea what my poems meant, but she had something to brag to others about.Metaphor saved me. Once I hit high school I was blessed with an incredibleCreative Writing and Theatre Arts teacher Sandra Lawrence who I never forgotand was extremely supportive of my writing. I wasn't able to bring myself tojournal again until 2016!

3 - How long does it take tostart any particular writing project? Does your writing initially come quickly,or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear looking close to their finalshape, or does your work come out of copious notes?
I'm not sure I think in terms of projects, I think in singular poems.Some come quickly, especially if through a particular prompt or free writing. Ihave one poem that took over 50 years to get on paper. The prompt I happened tofind provided the idea for the structure and allowed the content to flow. Iread a lot of poetry and also essays on craft. Workshops force me to write andare good for discipline and focusing my mind to think beyond content. Theproject that became If You Break It You Buy It started around 2010 under adifferent name and theme and went through many changes. I almost quit writingentirely in 2012 after the death of my son. Was going to concentrate on photography.Found out he was very proud of my writing, which I had no idea about when hewas alive, so I went back to it.
If I write drafts in longhand there are copious notes, a lot of editing andrevision. The work tends to be almost melodramatic. Very messy pages. Very blahblah blah. If I write poetry directly on the computer my focus is better,somehow the structure works itself out, sometimes right from the initial draft.Hence, I prefer to compose from the computer. 

4 - Where does a poemusually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combininginto a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the verybeginning?
Again, more on single poems, usually. But right now, I'm working on asecond manuscript "The Realm of In Between" so if I think it fits, Ifind a place for it. My poems can begin with a prompt, through workshops, (Iattend workshops that are limited in participants, therefore very expensive,but worth every penny). I use quotes that become epigraphs, notes in my journals,and also reading poetry tends to create a rhythm that I can't ignore.

5 - Are public readings partof or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoysdoing readings?
It took awhile, but I'm less nervous now and enjoy public readings. I don'tpractice before hand; might change what I read on the fly depending on theaudience. Really enjoy Zooming and Zoom readings. Unfortunately, times and daysdon't always jive with my schedule with on-line readings and it's too expensiveto travel to all the various venues. The closest place for readings is an houraway. Geographically, getting to public readings is difficult. There arelimited opportunities in Sarnia except at a lovely venue called The Lawrence House and our local bookstore The Book Keeper does wonderful book launches.Climate can limit driving during the winter, and it can be stressful travellingon major highways for a number of hours just to read for 10 minutes. If I livedin a big city I'd go to readings as much as possible.

6 - Do you have anytheoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are youtrying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questionsare?
I had concerns before You Break It You Buy It came out. The materialcame from actual events, real relationships that were dysfunctional and toxic.I hoped to reach people who felt isolated from groups, family, so-calledfriends due to caring for the wrong people or stuck in relationships that werehurtful or harmful. Everyone has some sort of negative element in their livesthat is irksome, to say the least. I've researched the heck out of narcissism,dysfunctional behavior and cognitive biases for the last 15 years. I don'tbelieve I have answers. I don't believe I'm trying to answer any questions. Ihave more questions than anything else. Why can't we get along? Why are we sodisconnected? Why aren't more people in therapy?

7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture?Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?
I find this a difficult question to answer. Perhaps, it depends on what youare writing, who your audience is. How much does one's ego play in that role?It's a huge responsibility to carry if you are well-known publicly as a writer,even if you are just entertaining the masses. A writer's role? To entertain, toteach, to inform, to connect people with each other and themselves, to expresswhat non-writers cannot, but wish they could?

8 - Do you find the processof working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?
Oh, not difficult at all. Quite wonderful. I'm all for learning and betteringmy craft. I can't do that in a bubble.

9 - What is the best pieceof advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?
Too many pieces of good advice to name. Read poetry. Get it all down –then revise. Assume when you write that the reader is smarter than you.

10 - What kind ofwriting routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does atypical day (for you) begin?
No, I don't have a writing routine. I'm fairly undisciplined and easilydistracted. I'm more a daytime writer, and sometimes can even write with a lotgoing on around me. As long as you don't stop me to ask questions, I don'talways need quiet. I write in my back yard, my kitchen, the living room, aswell as my office which is a room of organized chaos. My office loves youroffice. My typical morning begins with coffee, Wordle, social media, an hour oftelevision, then on to emails. Tuesday and Thursday mornings: four of us Zoom.Two of us are in Ontario, one each in Saskatchewan and California

11 - When your writing getsstalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word)inspiration?
Poetry. Quotations. Essays on craft. Or allow the stall. There's usually areason. A change in me, my thought processes, some learning process takingplace within. A change in writing style sometimes results in a stall. Or Ihaven't found the right hook, yet. It usually ends up a good thing so I try togo with the stall. I'll work with photography, instead. I love photoshopping.

12 - What fragrance remindsyou of home?
Home as when a kid: Burning leaves. The smell of tar and coal inWillowdale

In Trenton: The scent of a swamp or bog drying up which is horrible!

My home now: any Yankee Candle scent that doesn't smell like food. Sandalwood.I love scents.

13 - David W. McFadden oncesaid that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influenceyour work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?
All of the above that you mention. Much note taking regarding nature andscience. I wish I could use science in my poetry like Alice Major does. I'vealways wondered if I'd be better served writing essays about nature especiallyhuman nature. There are a few poems based on music and the destruction of ourplanet in You Break It You Buy It. My second manuscript is nature based, butmore about connecting with it. I read a lot of books on animal behaviorism,trees, plants, psychology. Observing the plant and animal drama that goes on inmy backyard and the park beyond keeps me busy.

14 - What other writers orwritings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?
Essays on the craft of poetry, on poetry in general are important to my work.Though I read a lot of Canadian poetry: Karen Solie and Di Brandt haveinfluenced my writing; there's quite a few American poets I find personallyimportant to me, especially Ellen Bass, Diane Seuss, Kim Addonizio and thepoetry and essays of Tony Hoagland. Ask me the same question in 5 years and itmay be totally different.

15 - What would you like todo that you haven't yet done?
Publish another book of poems. Write and publish more essays. Go toAfrica.

16 - If you could pick anyother occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do youthink you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?
If I'd been trainedand started at an early age I'd pick – a musician and back-up singer.

I once seriously considered dog training. The more I see people with theirdogs, the more I wish I had. I've been told I should have been a comedian.

17 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
I wasn't allowed music or singing lessons. Sang in choirs all throughschool, and sang in a barbershop chorus for years. Artistically I havedifficulty drawing stick men. Discovered photography too late in life, but it'sa great hobby, I exhibit and sell work on occasion and my images and digitalart have been on the cover of a number of poetry books. I intended on pursuingjournalism, but found the writing too . . . non-literary.

18 - What was the last greatbook you read? What was the last great film?

The ones I'm currentlyreading. I've always more than one book on the go. Movie? I watch too many to have an answer.

19 - What are you currentlyworking on?
Before being accepted by Guernica Editions, I took nearly all my poems on griefand grieving out of my poetry collection You Break It You Buy It. Irealized they didn't belong in a book centred around toxicity anddisconnection. They belonged in the manuscript I am working on – “The Realm ofIn Between.” Here I explore our connections with each other through our losses,nature and travel. In 2012 we lost our only child to a fentanyl overdose. Hewas 29. I write not only about the emotion, and its effect on all of us, butthe words we use to define it. The complexity of grief.

12 or 20 (second series) questions;

Barry McKinnon (1944 – October 30, 2023)

Rae Armantrout and Barry McKinnon at VERSeFest (Ottawa), March 2012

Sadto hear from Paul Nelson that Canadian poet, editor and publisher Barry McKinnon died 11:30am on Monday morning in Prince George. Nelson writes that “plansfor a spring memorial service will be made soon.” I don’t precisely recall whenI started interacting with McKinnon, but I know I was reading his work in theearly 1990s, sitting in the Morriset Library at the University of Ottawareading The the. (Coach House Press, 1980), i wanted to say something(Red Deer College Press, 1990) and Pulp/Log (Caitlin Press, 1991),all of which became important for me in terms of thinking of the cadence andbreadth of the long poem. If you can, pick up a copy of The Centre: Poems1970-2000 (Talonbooks, 2004), a collection that really displays the ‘poemas long as a life’ mantra that bpNichol articulated, something shared withNichol’s own multiple books of The Martyrology (1972-1993), or RobertKroetsch’s Completed Field Notes (2002).

Therewas something jwcurry once said of McKinnon’s poems, his long poems, that I alwaysthought was interesting, suggesting that the first half of any McKinnon long poemis working up to a single point, and the second half working away from thatsame point. My collection Glengarry (Talonbooks, 2011), was one of anumber of works I produced over the years as a direct result of reading BarryMcKinnon’s work. At McKinnon’s prompt, as well, I’m probably one of the few continuingthe “Sex at 31” poems he and Brian Fawcett began, something I wrote about a fewyears back as part of Jacket2. It must have been in 2000 or so that I wasup in Prince George, staying with McKinnon for the sake of a reading, and diggingaround his archives to see what there was. He handed me a “Sex at 31” poem byArtie Gold that he produced back in the late 1970s, which Artie allowed me toreprint as an above/ground press broadside, a poem that later fell into thesecond ‘best of’ above/ground press anthology. Thanks to Barry, I followed thatparticular thread (composing poems for every seven years, as was their originalconsideration: thirty-one, thirty-eight, forty-five and fifty-two, so far), andam still pulling away at it, in as much homage to McKinnon and Fawcett (andGold) as anything else.

Barry McKinnon and Brian Fawcett post-Talon/ECW launch, Toronto, 2004

InMcKinnon’s basement circa that 2000 visit, as he was complaining that aparticular bill bissett title he produced in 1970 ( Stamp collection ) wasn’tseen or acknowledged by anyone, and he opened a cupboard to reveal a stack of afew hundred copies. Hard to get attention for something sitting in yourbasement storage, I suggested, so he gave me some fifty copies to distribute,which  I handed out at further stops onthat same reading tour, including in Calgary, Winnipeg and Toronto. We metprior to the reading over drinks, and he offered me a copy of The the.,telling me it was one of only five copies he had left (extant copies had fallenprey to one of Coach House Press’ infamous “dumps,” which left unannounced copiesout at the curb). After the reading, we went out for drinks, landing late inhis living room. His wife Joy, unimpressed.

Welaunched together in 2004, having both books in the same season with Talonbooks,landing in Toronto as Brian Fawcett heckled us both from the crowd (David Phillips,on his part, heckled McKinnon through his Vancouver launch at the KootenaySchool of Writing space). We even brought him to Ottawa for VERSeFest in 2012[see my report on such here], where he participated in The Factory LectureSeries.

Italways felt like Barry McKinnon was a poet who deserved far more attention thanhe received, and how moving north to Prince George to teach in 1969 put him onthe outskirts of literature (this was certainly how he felt), despite theenormous amount of activity he encouraged, prompted and hosted during his timein the north. Who else would have brought Robert Creeley to Prince George? iwanted to say something, originally self-produced through his Gorse andreprinted years later by Caitlin, is an important early long poem from theCanadian prairies, one that was hugely influential to other writers, even ifthe larger public weren’t aware of it until long after those influenced by thepoem had published their own variations. McKinnon became an important figure inNorthern British Columbia, as publisher, poet, organizer, teacher and as anexample of someone in that geographic space who was able to produce interestingwork, and take seriously the conversation and thinking of literature. I knowover the past twenty years or so he was getting frustrated with traditionalpublishing (he’d long been a chapbook publisher, so one foot was always on theoutside), focusing more on putting work online than sending it out to anyone. I would recommend working through his website and seeing everything he’d putthere.

I interviewed him a few times, including in 2012 and more recently, for Touchthe Donkey. I reviewed a number of his works, and even attempted a lengthyessay on his work circa 2006, which fell into my first essay collection with ECW Press.Paul Nelson also did an interview with him in 2015 that is worth paying attention to.

Hewas always kind to me, and deeply engaged at what was going on with writing. Thosevisits were always few and far between, and I shall miss him.