The Golden Lily
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Sooo, for those who've read it.......here's a question for you
i hope not she needs a human guy
Justine wrote: "i hope not she needs a human guy"Why? It may take time to like Adrian as for who he is (vampire/spirit-user) but I'm pretty sure Adrian won't hurt Sydney.
Julianna wrote: "No! Sydney needs a human, as bad as that sounds, it's true. I would hate Richelle Mead forever if she made Sydney give up her beliefs or be punished/re-educated because of Adrian."But if she gets sent to a reeducation center, there could be added drama, and sydney needs adrian, they have a lot in common, and he makes her feel alive.
S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after book 4 she is."
I don't think that we can really put sydney, and rose in the same league, they have different personalities, and way different ways of looking at things.
Errowyn wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after book 4 she is."
I don't think..."
Of course we can. They're both fictional characters in the same universe. We can compare anything we want.
I think Sydney and Adrian should be together but I agree with previous comments, I dont think she should just throw away everything she has been taught for years over one kiss (mind you if Adrian is involved its one Hell of a kiss)but its going to take time to break that cycle. Plus let's not forget Sydney is starting to dabble in magic herself, maybe that can lead her down another path of understanding that frees her enough to accept her feelings for Adrian.
S.L.J. wrote: "Errowyn wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after book 4 she is...."
Yeah, but two completly different people, in the fact there personalities and the way they handle situations are very different.
Errowyn wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Errowyn wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after..."
Rose and Sydney can be friends, but no one can argue that they are from like to different sides from the same universe.
I do wish Adrian and Sydney end up together. Not so easily though. I feel Sydney will need to reflect on her own feelings and beliefs before it happens. I think most of her beliefs were forced through her family and the alchemists. She was young and didn't know any different. Now she is seeing for herself without other outside influences.
Krista wrote: "Julianna wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Julianna wrote: "No! Sydney needs a human, as bad as that sounds, it's true. I would hate Richelle Mead forever if she made Sydney give up her beliefs or be punished/..."This is exactly how I feel.
S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after book 4 she is."
but with out her you wouldnt have that on edge series, she brings VA together. rose is just awesome. she might be those things you said but she is also; strong, brave,caring. shes just one of those people who are so confident that you wish you had that.
Trishy wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Why do people hate Rose???????????????"Because she's a self-centered, arrogant, ignorant, manipulative, pig-headed bitch...well, after book 4 she is."
but with out..."
"...but with out her you wouldnt have that on edge series, she brings VA together. rose is just awesome. she might be those things you said but she is also; strong, brave,caring. shes just one of those people who are so confident that you wish you had that."
At certain points during VA, Rose's actions and thought processes almost made me put the books down completely. She does have good traits, but I found some elements of her personality to be very annoying. I admired her confidence to a certain extent, but I didn't admire (or want) her combination of confidence and propensity towards rash behavior.
yeah she does have rash behaviour sometimes but sometimes its funny
I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings us to the matter: a lot can happen in Sydney and she can do decisions we do not like since she still has four books ahead. When Bloodlines is finished then we can compare Rose and Sydney being fair.
Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings us to the matter: a lot can happ..."Technically Sydney has been in 5 books so far and with Indigo Spell coming out in Feb that makes 6. But if we're being technical then Rose has been in 7 books. :P
S.L.J. wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings us to the matte..."Yes but to be the main character, is different from just being a character more in the book.
Clau_pop wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings ..."True but after 2 books, I like Sydney a hell of a lot more than Rose. TBH I liked her more after one book.
Clau_pop wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings ..."We all have different tastes, and the reason I do not like Sydney much is because she is too innocent to the world that she live, and sometimes feel very self-centered with little things, it's also a bit ignorant everything that happens around her, never thinking that others (humans) can hurt her or the others.
Clau_pop wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only t..."That's why I like her. She's lived a very confined life and had a belief system hammered into her brain since she was old enough to walk and she spends all her time and energy cleaning up the carnage that gets left behind from vampires. Her actions and reactions are completely in sync with her character which is much more realistic than Rose.
Still, she's tough, determind, dedicated, intelligent and just now beginning to break out of her shell.
Clau_pop wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only t..."Sydney is not self centered. You see that in the books. Like, in the beginning of the book, when she went with Eddie to Adrian's even though she hadn't slept. And she gave that blood sample to Sonya even though she was more than uncomfortable for her. She also used magic to find Sonya even though it goes against everything she believes in. And she's not ignorant of those things around her. She just doesn't see them because she was homeschooled and wasn't really around any of that. She grew up in a very strict environment. I love Sydney.
Sydney is innocent to the world..? Um really. She only had to deal with her sister's rape and get revenge on the guy. Shes still a teenager and she knows a whole lot more than the average adult. Also people don't have to do or believe anything their family has forced them to learn while growing up. Sydney's an individual who can decide how she feels about vampires, not what she was told.
Sometimes I feel like I'm reading a whole another book series than ya guys...
i agree Sydney is awesome
Nancy wrote: "Julianna wrote: "No! Sydney needs a human, as bad as that sounds, it's true. I would hate Richelle Mead forever if she made Sydney give up her beliefs or be punished/re-educated because of Adrian."..."I just hope that Adrian is willing to wait for her, for as long as it takes.
S.L.J. wrote: "Chandana wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "She let a dozen innocent people get killed because she didn't want to lose Dimitri when Eddie could have killed him and ended his killing spree. She used and manipul..."I kind of agree, but at the same time what would you do if you were in that situation? With the love of your life, taken away, and what not.
Clau_pop wrote: "I just want to say one thing, we can not really compare Rose and Sidney, why?, Rose was the main character for six books, and Sydney has been only two. Which brings us to the matter: a lot can happ..."Yes, but like you said comparing them at this stage, is premature. Thats my opinion.
I would...not change a damned thing. I hate to say that because it always sounds like a cop-out, but it's really not. Anything I would change I have a feeling they are going to more than compensate for in the upcoming books.As for adding Rose in, as much as I love Rose, she's already had her series! Give other people a chance!
Courtney wrote: "Sydney is innocent to the world..? Um really. She only had to deal with her sister's rape and get revenge on the guy. Shes still a teenager and she knows a whole lot more than the average adult. A..."
I totally agree. While she may be "uneducated" in human behavior, but she is not innocent in the world.
Chandana wrote: "Julianna wrote: "I'd add Rose in there somewhere. It's just not the same without her"Our badass heroine"
definitely add Rose somewhere, maybe in a scene or teo. her sarcasm never gets old.
♥ Alexia -Team Malec ♥ wrote: "If i could change one thing.....No Re-education Centre. Freaks me out!"it definitely freaks me out too
cherry wrote: "I really loved Adrian I would have made Sydney to cozy upto Adrian.and I might have found a nice guy for Jill ;)"You mean like Eddie, since he is in love with her. I think it is so cute.
Rose is awesome and i seriously do miss Dimitri's badass side
Julianna wrote: "No! Sydney needs a human, as bad as that sounds, it's true. I would hate Richelle Mead forever if she made Sydney give up her beliefs or be punished/re-educated because of Adrian."i would love if she got together with adrian and because it richelle mead loves cliffhangers, here is my prediction: eventually they will get together in a few books time (cause she is supposed to write about 6 apparently, and if she got them together early then the other books would be lacking in many areas)sydney will be sent to a reeducation centre and she with the help of dhampirs and moroi will escape. what do you think?
My prediction/what I think would be cool...Sydney will realize that she loves Adrian but before they can get together something will happen to Adrian. I hoping for amnesia caused by spirit. Sydney will rebel against the Alchemists and embrace magic in order to restore Adrians memory.
Meanwhile, the evil witches and Warriors of Light will seize control of the court while preparing to kill all the moroi and strigoi. Sydney and her friends will team up with the keepers to stop them.
At some point Tasha will show up and help Sydney and Adrian, earning redemption and becoming Christians 'mother figure' again because lets face it, that poor kid deserves to have one family member that doesn't turn evil.
Rose and Dimitri will get married and Adrian will show up at the wedding and get all the guests completely wasted causing hilarious mayhem. He and Sydney live happily ever after and Jill finally hooks up with Eddie while Angelina and Trey get together.
I would have liked more Adrian and Sydney. I mean, I know Sydney is so completely oblivious to feelings and boys, but I would have liked more thoughts and talking between them. I felt kind of deprived of it in some parts - probably because I knew that they would end up in the situation Mead put them in at the end of the book... that was always going to happen in my eyes. But, more of a developed relationship between them before Adrian "made his move".
S.L.J. wrote: "My prediction/what I think would be cool...Sydney will realize that she loves Adrian but before they can get together something will happen to Adrian. I hoping for amnesia caused by spirit. Sydne..."
i like it
I love Rose as much as the next person, but this series is about sydney not Rose. In my opinion I think if she adds in Rose in to much it will take away from sydney.
Darlene =) wrote: "Cortney wrote: "If there was one thing I would change it would be that I wished it showed more of Sydney's family life. It would have been nice if she would have actually talked to her sister."I ..."
I actually think she is going to be in indigo spell, because she is going to train with her sister, or something.
i think she should just eat regualr food
S.L.J. wrote: "Feb 2013.Change one thing? I'd give Adrian super-powers. :P"
he does hes got spirit :)
i would love to be able to run super fast and ive always wanted fangs secretly lolz dressed up as a vampire like 5 time for halloween lolz
If I could change one thing it would be in the scene where Adrian and Sydney (in her awesome red dress) sit together on the ground where she want to give him her cross and he leans in .... And the the light comes to life and they back off!I was stunned, that the light had to come on at that exact point! Because maybe, just maybe, if they had kissed right then and there - who knows what would have happened? I felt like she was more into the moment, then the actual kiss at the end ...
But that's just my opinion hehe
Ursula the sea witch wrote: "hahaha lol. he heals people, compels, and walks dreams. what more do you want?"Telekinesis. :D
S.L.J. wrote: "Telekinesis. :D"That just made me LOL. Maybe you should pitch that idea to Richelle mead for future books.
'Adrian develops telekinesis in book #4'
Sandra wrote: "S.L.J. wrote: "Telekinesis. :D"That just made me LOL. Maybe you should pitch that idea to Richelle mead for future books.
'Adrian develops telekinesis in book #4'"
He could stop bullets in mid air and fling vampires around with his mind. I think he's have fun with that. :P
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Well, you've got a very good opinion. You are sooooo right. I think that's where the series is headed.