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message 1: by Jess (last edited Jan 08, 2009 10:28AM) (new)

Jess | 3721 comments Any recommedations to make about a really bad book? I always like to make decisions about books myself, but sometimes I like to read why people don't like a book or an author in particular.

Just thinking quickly, I wouldn't recommend The Historian. It was so long, and I didn't even finish because I just couldn't stomach another one of the long winded sentences. I didn't get very far in it... I think it was supposed to be about vampires, but all I remember is descriptions of scenery and the library. Eek!


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Dressed to Slay by Harper Allen. Maybe fans of lighter PnR or young heroines would enjoy this Silhouette Bombshell, but I found the heroine and her sisters, the plot, and dialogue to be sophomoric. The female leads were so bratty I just wanted to slap them all. Dressed To Slay (Silhouette Bombshell) by Harper Allen

Slave by Cheryl Brooks. I've read reviews from readers that loved the satire...must have gone over my head entirely. Loved the hero, and the heroine started out kickass. IMO the story quickly deteriorated until my eyes crossed. The basic concept of the hero's race is fascinating, but don't know if I can bring myself to read the sequil. [image error]


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Kitty and the Midnight Hour by Carrie Vaughn i would have to say i disliked this book. hmmm its hard to say why because their would be spoilers and i would hate to spoil it for anyone who wanted to read it. i am thinking i might need to read book 2 just to give it another chance. if anyone has read it please let me know what u thought..
i really wanted to like this book.. maybe i need to reread it. just about all my books i have, i liked so its rare to read a book i didn't like..


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Jess | 3721 comments Stephanie - I have read that book, and it took me a little while to get into it. The beginning was kind of boring to me, but the next books afterward had less of set up and more action.


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Stephanie, if there were situations offensive to you in Kitty, you will not find them in book #2.


Nichole (DirrtyH) (dirtyh) Oh, sad... I loved The Historian.
It did take awhile to get into it, though. I think I spent a month slugging through the first 200 pages (while reading other things, of course), and then one day I picked it up again and it was like it clicked. I couldn't put it down until I finished it.

It is more of an intellectual rather than a physical adventure, though. It takes place mostly in libraries; the action is more based in books and theories. I still found it really interesting, but I can see where a lot of people would find it dry. Towards the end it got pretty action packed, though. I even got scared; one night after I closed it to go to sleep, I had to lay there with the light on for about half an hour. :)


message 7: by Kasia (last edited Aug 24, 2009 04:56AM) (new)

Kasia Hi, everybody. I'm not sure about The Historian, I haven't read it yet; and I did like Kitty. Still there's a number of PNR books that rubbed me the wrong way:

- Urban Shaman - I just couldn't get into it
- You Slay Me So OK, the characters are cute, and so is the banter. It's not a total disaster, I even read the 2nd book in the series. The thing is - there's little plot, and what feels like tons of sex. I mean it really takes all the fun out of the read, when I can see how MacAlister struggles to bring all the characters into the same place, and then throws a few disasters @ them. Echh....

- Tithe: A Modern Faerie Tale Too much of weird elf/gentry faerie tale stuff.

- Glass Houses I love Rachel Caine books, but this...?! I get that it's YA. But then I do enjoy YA from time to time. YA books don't have to be juvenile and slow.

- A Great and Terrible Beauty I'm stuck in the middle of this one right now. Nothing is happening, grrrr! Yet I hear people praising it. It's supposed to get into the groove near the end. But then answer me this: is it worth to suffer though 200 pages of little girl's drama, to get something sensible in the last 100 pages. Is it?


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Kasia Ohhh and I almost forgot:
- late Anita Blake books Some people still are able to enjoy it. I, on the other hand, miss the kicking ass Anita. The Anita stuck in limbo between Richard & Jean-Claude, to me, has not appeal whatsoever.


message 9: by Jess (last edited Jan 13, 2009 03:44PM) (new)

Jess | 3721 comments I haven't read any of those, well I read Anita Blake books but the later ones I just go in knowing they wont be as good as the first ones and it doesn't bother me that much.

One book that I read the other day, everyone raved about and I disliked greatly. Sunshine by Robin McKinley. I know people might have differing opinions, but I just didn't get the appeal! I thought the main character was irritating, the plot was a little convoluted and the main vamp (I can't even remember his name, that's how much I liked the book) was not very nice at times.. and he was slightly wussy.


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Dawn (dawnv) | 4048 comments I recently read Wicked Deeds on a Winters Night by Kresley Cole and after three weeks of trying to finish it I quit. I will admit that I like all the other stories this one just does not do it for me.

I am sure I will be in the minority here but I never warmed up to Mari and Bowen as a couple. I liked Bowen and as much as I was looking forward to his story this did not work for me. He just kept whining about I love the other girl she was my mate even though she taunted me, I am not in love with Mari she has placed a spell on me. Not to mention Mari and all of the I hate him but I want him - his body is awesome lets have sex no I was just kidding it is only the change...to me it was random. And for goodness sakes how much longer could they stay in the jungle. I doona lass maybe it is just me.



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Jess | 3721 comments Dawn - I didn't mind Bowen and Mari that much. I did find it annoying that he kept referring to his old mate and how much he loved her and all that.. but I don't know, he was kind of funny as well.

But I actually couldn't stand Dark Needs at Night's Edge. I thought Conrad was so irritating!!! and the fact that Neomi was dead was kind of weird.


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Jess wrote: "Stephanie - I have read that book, and it took me a little while to get into it. The beginning was kind of boring to me, but the next books afterward had less of set up and more action."

i am going to reread it. to give it another chance. and pick up book 2..

Denni wrote: "Stephanie, if there were situations offensive to you in Kitty, you will not find them in book #2."
i didn't it offensive i didn't like a few things about the charterers. her friend the guy i didn't like what happened to him. i don't want to give any spoilers.. but i will reread.. i give it that much i liked the idea of the book.



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Tiwaztyrsfist | 25 comments Yeah, the Anita Blake books, Starting in Narcissus in Chains and continuing on from there are pretty bad.

The first 9 books were good. The really early ones were on par, in my opinion, with the Harry Dresden books. But starting in book 10, she didn't wrap up all the loose ends. It gets on my nerves.

I don't mind 400 pages of gratuitous odd sex scenes, far from it, but when you do it at the expense of the actual plot line of the story? That's just, I don't know, annoying.



message 14: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4048 comments Jess, I just got Dark Needs at Night's Edge from the library - I was looking forward to it but we shall see. Anyhoo I just could not get into Wicked Deeds on a Winters Night, perhaps one day I will attempt to reread it.


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Starling | 176 comments I was disappointed with Kitty and the Midnight Hour. I expected to like it, and did not care for the book or the main character.

I like the Anita Blake books. I liked the early ones. And I like the newest ones too. I always saw the sexual tension in the early books. For me it was always there. The author writes about the power of sex. The sex is the plot.


message 16: by Melodie (last edited Jul 23, 2009 04:09PM) (new)

Melodie (melodieco) Kasia wrote: "Hi, everybody. I'm not sure about The Historian, I haven't read it yet; and I did like Kitty. Still there's a number of PNR books that rubbed me the wrong way:

- - Glass Houses I love Rachel Caine books, but this...?! I get that it's YA. But then I do enjoy YA from time to time. YA books don't have to be juvenile and slow.
..."


I love the Morganville Vampire books!! One of my very favorite series regardless of genre.


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Melodie (melodieco) Kasia wrote: "Ohhh and I almost forgot:
- late Anita Blake books Some people still are able to enjoy it. I, on the other hand, miss the kicking ass Anita. The Anita stuck in limbo between Richard & Jean-Clau..."


I agree. Loved the early Anita books, hate what she passes off as novels now.


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Melodie (melodieco) Starling wrote: "I was disappointed with Kitty and the Midnight Hour. I expected to like it, and did not care for the book or the main character.

I like the Anita Blake books. I liked the early ones. And I like th..."


KITTY & THE MIDNIGHT HOUR was a bit slow, but the books have improved with each successive one. As far as Anita Blake, when sex is the ONLY plot it's really quite boring. I like kinky sex as much as the next perv, but I do like a REAL story thrown in there somewhere.


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Starling | 176 comments I don't understand why some people only see the sex in the Anita Blake books. I see plot and story as well.

Also, I'm an old lady. I've read porn. And what Hamilton is writing is not porn. Lots of sex, but not porn. The difference is the characters, who are people with issues that have nothing to do with sex. In porn the characters only exist below the neck.


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Melodie (melodieco) Starling wrote: "I don't understand why some people only see the sex in the Anita Blake books. I see plot and story as well.

Also, I'm an old lady. I've read porn. And what Hamilton is writing is not porn. Lots of..."


Don't know what you consider old, but I'm 53 and have read some of everything, including porn. Porn is boring. Erotica is boring, too, if the author doesn't know how to write. I have a friend who likes the newer Anita Blake books, too, and we have a running argument about them. I hadn't read one since CERULEAN SINS and actually bought SKIN TRADE. I told my friend I figured LKH had run out of ways to keep the stuff interesting to herself when she put an underage boy in the mix. I am not a prude by anyone's definition of the word. I like my over-the-top sex, but I like a little something else in there, too, mostly a story to keep me interested. Anyway, it's good that people disagree on these topics. Keeps things interestin! If we all liked the same books a lot of authors would go hungry.



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The Flooze (the_flooze) | 1831 comments Kasia, which MacAlister book do you mean? I was reading your post and was confused at first because Urban Shaman has no sex!

I actually enjoyed Urban Shaman. I liked the main character and thought her rapport with her taxi-driver friend Gary was very funny. The second book was a little light in the plot department though. I've yet to read the third in the series.

Having liked Urban Shaman, I decided to read another from Murphy: The Queen's Bastard. Now THAT book I wouldn't recommend to a soul. It's sort of alt-history with strange quasi-paranormal elements. Then there's this out of NOWHERE sci-fi twist at the end. It was just boring and hopeless.

Carpe Demon was another that I didn't take to. The descriptor is: imagine if Buffy grew up and became a soccer mom. Sounds somewhat promising, falls absolutely flat.

As for Anita Blake, I'm all for hot sex scenes. The sex is not what bothered me. The lingering guilt and the whining before, after, during...that's what bothered me. Anita, have all the sex you want. You've already got multiple boyfriends pre-arduer. Embrace it. But don't whine for many many books about how you can't control it when the people around you are trying to teach you how to and you're willfully ignoring them. I get that she's stubborn and has the Catholic guilt and has control issues. But there's only so much stubborn I can take before pure frustration takes over and I want to beat you over the head and tell you now you're just being stupid. It ain't going away, Anita. Deal. I should have such problems.

Thankfully in the last book, she's FINALLY coming to terms with it, so maybe now something else can become the big focus of her attentions, and the arduer can just bring us some hot scenes from time to time.


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Starling | 176 comments Melodie, I'm not quite old enough to be your mother. I'm only 68.

As for the underaged boy, he isn't underaged in the state where it all takes place. AND you never see a sex scene with him in it, just him in the aftermath of that scene. And someone else put him in that room. Not Anita.

Michelle, I agree with having problems with the whining and the lingering guilt. But part of the plot is Anita learning to deal with things being the way they are. And she always did a lot of guilty even before the sex got interesting. Also, in another group someone mentioned that the last few books take place in a very short time period. I didn't really pay attention to how long a time period, but something like 5 or 6 books in less than 6 months of real time.



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The Flooze (the_flooze) | 1831 comments Yeah, I had the time frame discussion in the other group when we were discussing why no one grabbed Richard for an intervention. It's so hard to keep the book time span in perspective though when from the reader's standpoint, the guilt just keeps on lingering! I guess I want her to roll with the punches more.

Even after a month or two, she should have been coping better, as far as I'm concerned. But that's me. I don't whinge over crap I'm stuck with handling, so I've little patience for it!


message 24: by Melodie (new)

Melodie (melodieco) Starling wrote: "Melodie, I'm not quite old enough to be your mother. I'm only 68.

As for the underaged boy, he isn't underaged in the state where it all takes place. AND you never see a sex scene with him in it..."


My mom is 73 and she'd have a stroke if she read an Anita Blake book!! LOL



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Starling | 176 comments I really, really wanted an excuse to say this.

My mother, if she was still alive, would have been 100 this year. Back in the mid-60s I discovered she was reading a series of historical romances that were thought to be "pure porn" in the original French. The English translations weren't as raunchy as the French ones were. I did read one of them in English myself, and can't remember if they were as explicit as the Anita books, but I think they may have been.

What is even more scary is that my daughter and I have very similar tastes in books. Don't know if she has read the Anita or Merry series, but the two of us had a real interesting conversation a couple of years ago about what books to share with the daughter of her friend who is only just now 13. I went out and found her a G rated Anime book. And she is really into vampires. And no, we are not sharing Anita at this point in time.

However, I still remember the look of shock and disbelief on the face of a teacher when I was 14 because of what I was reading. I had outgrown YA by that time.


message 26: by Melodie (last edited Jul 25, 2009 08:50AM) (new)

Melodie (melodieco) Starling wrote: " I really, really wanted an excuse to say this.

My mother, if she was still alive, would have been 100 this year. Back in the mid-60s I discovered she was reading a series of historical romances ..."


I would read ANYTHING as a kid. My mom & my dad's youngest sister taught me to read by the time I was 4. My mom was a reader, but she doesn't read much anymore. She says it makes her sleepy. Anyway, she used to hide some of the books she was reading from me because she knew I was always looking for something to read and she didn't want me getting hold of things that would require her answering lots of questions that she was never comfortable answering. I remember finding FANNY HILL once and just being totally fascinated by it at about the age of 8 and then finding THE CARPETBAGGERS at about 9 or 10 and asking her what a "phallic symbol" was. She never did try to censor anything I read, tho. I bought a copy of THE HAPPY HOOKER when it came out and I was in high school. I hid it under my mattress. She of course found it when she changed the sheets on my bed and left it on my dresser. She told me I didn't have to hide what I was reading. Hmmmm, maybe Anita Blake wouldn't give her a stroke after all!

I got my niece started with the Sookie Stackhouse and Betsy Queen of the Vampires books when she was about 13. She's 18 now and is as big a vampire junkie as I am! We have a great time talking books (I read TWILIGHT before she did), and she comes over on Sunday night to watch True Blood.


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Starling | 176 comments Oh, THE CARPETBAGGERS! My entire 7th grade class was trying to get a copy of A STONE FOR DANNY FISHER by the same author. I was 11 that year, but most of them were 12.



I honestly do not know how many of them succeeded. I know I didn't get ahold of a copy until I was in high school.


Literary Ames {Against GR Censorship} (amyorames) | 237 comments I bought THE HISTORIAN based on a newspaper review and I sorely regretted it. The descriptions of scenery were long and even though it was supposed to be about Dracula, there was very little face-time with him. I skipped about 20 pages in the middle and never felt like I had missed anything. The ending was disappointingly predictable. It felt like the longest book I had ever read.

KITTY AND THE MIDNIGHT HOUR was a little different but the character Cormac intrigued me because he reminded me of Edward in the ANITA BLAKE series. I kept reading and was most definitely hooked when I read KITTY TAKES A HOLIDAY.

As for the ANITA books, I really enjoyed parts of NARCISSUS IN CHAINS and INCUBUS DREAMS but I stopped buying after the terrible DANSE MACABRE and THE HARLEQUIN due to lack of plot.

I really disliked GREYWALKER by Kat Richardson, it just felt very boring to me so I didn't bother with the next one.

TOUCH OF EVIL by C T Adams & Cathy Clamp, supposedly about vampires was just odd, it sort of reminded me of movies like Alien and The Thing.

DANTE'S GIRL by Natasha Rhodes was all over the place in regard to the plot. It wasn't very well thought out.

Sparkle Hayter's NAKED BRUNCH, I'm not entirely sure why I didn't like it and it's been a long time since I've read it so maybe I need to read it again.

WORKNG FOR THE DEVIL by Lilith Saintcrow left me feeling cheated. It took me a while to get into it and when I finally did it ended unsatisfactorily. I don't mind an unhappy ending if the story has been interesting enough but to kill off a main character in book one of a series seemed a little much.

What about the anthologies which have become increasingly popular amongst authors recently? I'm getting a little tired of having to buy these things just to read one story by an author I like because it ties in with a series they are writing which may or may not be good (the story not the series) and then having lots of other stories to read which are mostly on the bad side. One of the worst I've bought has to be BLOOD LITE. I bought it for the Kelley Armstrong and Charlaine Harris stories but there were too many contributing authors and too few pages per story. Saying that there are some rare gems, DATES FROM HELL and ON THE PROWL were pretty good.


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Starling | 176 comments I think the anthologies are intended to be samples. You take the one BIG NAME author and add in all of the little ones. It is interesting when one of the little ones turns out to be a BIG NAME themselves a year or two later.

I don't mind unless the stories are required reading to understand the next novel in the series. Some of the time I find a new author I really like in the back end of the book. And at least once or twice I liked all of the stories.


message 30: by Melodie (last edited Jul 26, 2009 09:54PM) (new)

Melodie (melodieco) Amy, I didn't like GREYWALKER either, tho I really like the author as a person. Just didn't like her book even a little.

As for the anthologies, I completely agree about BLOOD LITE. There was very little to redeem that purchase. OTOH, I liked everything in MEAN STREETS except Kat Richardson's story and even got introduced to an author & series I really like. Most of the ones I've bought have had enough good stuff in them to make the purchase worthwhile, but I did thing STRANGE BREW was pretty weak, too.


Literary Ames {Against GR Censorship} (amyorames) | 237 comments After re-arranging my shelves to accommodate some new books I found another one - UNDEAD AND UNDWED by Mary-Janice Davidson. Betsy is incredibly vain and irritating, she was like a shallower Carrie from Sex and the City and who in their right mind would want her for their queen?

Starling, what I meant with the anthologies is that authors are making them 'required reading to understand the next novel' as you say which is what ticks me off about them. I recently read a series book where a character had come out of nowhere but was known to the other characters, I had no idea (until I read some reviews) there had been a novella in an anthology out there that had introduced this character so I was a bit confused as to what was going on. That has happened a couple of times to me now and I'm finding it rather annoying.


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The Flooze (the_flooze) | 1831 comments Hunting for stories is incredibly irritating. One reason I like Charlaine Harris is that apart from one short, her stories are of the same universe, but not vital in understanding the series. The same goes for most of Kenyon's Dark Hunter shorts.

I actually like MJD's Undead series. I found most of the books laugh out loud funny. She's a ludicrous character indeed, but that's what makes me love her.


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Melodie (melodieco) Amy wrote: "After re-arranging my shelves to accommodate some new books I found another one - UNDEAD AND UNDWED by Mary-Janice Davidson. Betsy is incredibly vain and irritating, she was like a shallower Carrie..."

I used to really like the Betsy, Queen of the Vampires books. The last few have been so stupid and such a waste of time, I don't know if I'll bother anymore. Speaking of Carrie and Sex & the City, I watched that show exactly twice at a friend's house and cannot think of another I've detested quite as much in the last 20 years! Not a single redeeming character among the bunch...I could go on for hours on the horrors of S&TC, but I'll shut up for now!


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Starling | 176 comments Amy, I get it. Happened to me with Charlaine Harris recently when I reread the whole series and could not figure out how we got from point A to point B. Where did that character come from? It turned out I had the anthology and had read that story but the second time around when I didn't read that story I was going nuts!

I like Betsy, but I have to make sure I read her when I'm in the mood. And I don't like any of the other series the author is writing. In first person they all sound like Betsy. Betsy does have redeeming qualities. And she is much smarter than she looks or acts most of the time.

I watched just enough Sex and the City to know that at various times all of the main characters also had redeeming qualities. If nothing else, they always stood up for one another. I'll admit that if you just saw a few of the programs you wouldn't think so, however.


Literary Ames {Against GR Censorship} (amyorames) | 237 comments I actually liked Sex and the City, I just hated Carrie partly because of the expensive shoe fetish. Maybe that's why I disliked Betsy.


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Starling | 176 comments I DO NOT understand the whole shoe thing.

Maybe the fact that I couldn't wear shoes with heels that high at 16 might have something to do with it. Maybe the fact that I couldn't wear shoes with any heel at all by the time I was 35 also has something to do with it. I do understand pretty clothes and color, but shoes???


message 37: by Melodie (last edited Jul 29, 2009 12:22PM) (new)

Melodie (melodieco) Starling wrote: "I DO NOT understand the whole shoe thing.

Maybe the fact that I couldn't wear shoes with heels that high at 16 might have something to do with it. Maybe the fact that I couldn't wear shoes with a..."


I LOVE shoes, and even though I'd kill myself trying to walk in them I still love to look at those gorgeous high heels! I used to wear them back in the day. The last time I wore a pair was for a Christmas party in 2001. They had 4" heels and I just kept waiting to take a tumble all night. I didn't, but I haven't worn a pair since. Don't like that precarious feeling anymore!



message 38: by Schnaucl (last edited Aug 07, 2009 04:26PM) (new)

Schnaucl | 14 comments Books to avoid:

Yasmine Galenorn's Witching/Sisters of the Moon series. I wish I liked it more, she's a local author and friends with Kat Richardson, but the first book was not well written and her characters spoke like they were stuck in the 80's. I use the occasional "dude" and very rarely a "chill" and they were terrifically overused in that book.

The other book I would avoid like the plague is Anton Strout's Dead to Me. This is another book where the language was problematic, at least for me. Internet slang was sprinkled in among the prose, ?! was used more than once as acceptable punctuation, etc.

Nearly every character in the book acted more like they were children than adults. The female protagonist had a diary in which she wrote entries to "dearest diary" and ended sentences with multiple exclamation points. On the plus side, at least it wasn't limited to just the female characters. The male protagonist was equally juvenile in his own way.

The world building was very poor. He couldn't decide if the world knew about the supernatural or not.

The book did have some good jokes, unfortunately, it was like SNL skit, they were used over and over again and so stopped being funny.

I read a lot of anthologies, and I agree Blood Lite was not very good. On the other hand, I loved Many Bloody Returns.

One thing I've noticed is that urban fantasy authors often publish short stories in anthologies that either give important background information on a primary or secondary character or fill in the blanks between stories.

Jim Butcher is particularly guilty of filling in the blanks between novels with short stories in an anthology. There's been at least one instance of a fairly major event being addressed in a short story that only got a 1 line throwaway in his next novel. I highly recommend seeking out all his Dresden stories in anthologies if you read the series.

Kim Harrisonhad background stories for Ivy (Hotter Than Hell), the new character that shows up in the most recent book (Holidays are Hell), and I thought there was something about Kisten but I may be wrong about that. She also gives you the complete background of Madison Avery in Prom Dates from Hell and I suspect if you haven't read that first you'd be totally lost trying to read Once Dead Twice Shy without that background. She does cover it in the novel, but she spreads the information out over a large period of time.

Vicki Pettersson had a great short story about Jo's mom in Holidays are Hell.

Those anthologies that are really four novellas are usually worth taking a look at if you follow even one of the series. As for Butcher, just track down everything, even if you only get it from the library for that one story.


Literary Ames {Against GR Censorship} (amyorames) | 237 comments Schnaucl wrote: "Kim Harrisonhad background stories for Ivy (Hotter Than Hell), the new character that shows up in the most recent book (Holidays are Hell), and I thought there was something about Kisten but I may be wrong about that. She also gives you the complete background of Madison Avery in Prom Dates from Hell and I suspect if you haven't read that first you'd be totally lost trying to read Once Dead Twice Shy without that background. She does cover it in the novel, but she spreads the information out over a large period of time."

Thank you for this. Is the HOLIDAYS ARE HELL story about Pierce? I've been wondering if there was a story about him since reading WHITE WITCH, BLACK CURSE.


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Ellen | 326 comments Kasia, If you think A great and terrible beauty is bad try reading the second one, Rebel Angels! I found the first one okay, but the second one drove me insane! The book was way too long and nothing ever happened inbetween the good bits to make it worth reading!


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Schnaucl | 14 comments Amy wrote: Is the HOLIDAYS ARE HELL story about Pierce?

Yep. It's about their first meeting.




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Stav (voliotisa) I really really really did not like Minion.... I had such high expectations and they truly were not fulfilled, not even close.


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LooLoo Stav wrote: "I really really really did not like Minion.... I had such high expectations and they truly were not fulfilled, not even close."

I feel the same way. I've read about 190 books this year and Minion was the one and only book I hated. It has turned me off of all Banks books.




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Jess | 3721 comments Looloo wrote: "Stav wrote: "I really really really did not like Minion.... I had such high expectations and they truly were not fulfilled, not even close."

I feel the same way. I've read about 190..."


I also don't like LA Banks!! I've always thought I was the only one! I don't like her writing style at all.



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Melodie (melodieco) Jess wrote: "Looloo wrote: "Stav wrote: "I really really really did not like Minion.... I had such high expectations and they truly were not fulfilled, not even close."

I feel the same way. I've..."


Make that another who doesn't like Banks' books, too!


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Shannon (theholyterror) | 115 comments I also thought Minion was terrible. Her writing is too urban for me and I think that her books only appeal to a select niche which I'm not in. And I don't like the way the characters speak.

I think this review from Kel, (it's the first one on the page for the book,) sums up my feelings as well:

"I was excited to see a vampire book written by and about an African American woman, but once I started reading I was totally let down and couldn't finish the book. There's way too much bad dialogue and "hip hop" talk for my tastes. I don't know anyone (of any color) who speaks like the author made her characters speak and if I did I'd probably have to walk away from them just like I walked away from the book. Real disappointing."


message 47: by Shannon (new)

Shannon (theholyterror) | 115 comments Schnaucl wrote: "Books to avoid:

Yasmine Galenorn's Witching/Sisters of the Moon series. I wish I liked it more, she's a local author and friends with Kat Richardson, but the first book was not well written and her characters spoke like they were stuck in the 80's. I use the occasional "dude" and very rarely a "chill" and they were terrifically overused in that book."


I agree with this as well. I don't remember where I stopped but I gave up on this pretty early.


message 48: by Jess (new)

Jess | 3721 comments Yeah I think I got about 3 books into the Banks series before I gave up. I was interested in the two main characters and whether or not they'd end up together. Obviously I wasn't THAT interested because i can't even remember their names lol..


message 49: by Kelley Anne (last edited Aug 23, 2009 01:14PM) (new)

Kelley Anne | 1619 comments An author that I've had a really hard time with is Lora Leigh. I really didn't like her first book in the breeds series, but some people convinced me to try some of the other books. And some of them have been pretty good, but others are horrible! It's really hit and miss with her. It was like the series was finally starting to get better and then I didn't like it again. There are a bunch more books by her out, but I think I've just given up! Too many great books to read without trying to muddle my way through a bad one.


message 50: by Jess (new)

Jess | 3721 comments I've only read one book by Leigh and it was so-so. It was the first book in her Nauti boys series. I'm not opposed to reading her, but she always gets pushed down my list for other books I KNOW will be good.


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