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Jim Webster, (In On a Chance! )
Will wrote: "I think the MOA is moribund now.No one is directed there from Amazon: I think they have abandoned the experiment of the customer forum entirely"
I used to hang about on there but I've not been for months. :(
Certainly not since I started writing!
My teenager was going to do some marketing posts there for me.I had to email her a link in the end, as she couldn't find the Customer Discussions forum at all, let alone the MOA
Kath discovered me wandering aimlessly there and guided me in the direction of a much nicer place :~)
Mrs Middleton's home for the terminally bewildered!
I'll tell Simon he needs to rename the group.
Tim wrote: "Don't think I even knew it existed."Neither did I I had to Google Amazon MOA to find out what it was.
It looks like yet another place for authors to yell Buy my book! mainly to each other, while the actual readers go elsewhere bored by all the authorial hard sell.
I used to frequent the place as a reader - I was a rare breed over there! I used it to pick up notifications of new publications I might fancy. It became rather navel-gazing, I thought. People just plonked a promo for their book on any thread they felt relevant (or in some cases, whether it was relevant or not) and hardly anybody engaged with anyone else. It used to happen but it slipped...
I don't think that many authors have realised that they tend to drive the readers away by constantly self-promoting all the time and that they just end up talking to each other.I know that even here if I don't recognise an author as a group regular, I tend to ignore their 'buy my book' posts even when they do follow the posting rules.
True. I tend to think,'I like the cut of his/her jib. If the books are as interesting as the posts, I'll have a bit of that!'
I have to laugh at the authors who post nothing but 'buy my book!' Then come back and complain that no one has replied to their posts.
Sucked almonds, that's what they should post. Everyones a sucker for a sucked almond.
But sucked almonds suck!
Hmmm...Perhaps I'll just leave my olive pits and watermelon rind here.
Jim doesn't seem to be around to complain.
Just mention bacon. It's a shoo-in
have you sucked the olive pits?
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Hmmm...Perhaps I'll just leave my olive pits and watermelon rind here.
Jim doesn't seem to be around to complain."
I'd forgotten it was my author thread to be honest :-)
We're gonna go here later, Jim.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendra...
The cuirass is on display in the archeological museum in Naphio. Really interesting, especially the boar's tooth helmet.
For some odd reason, Dave wants to stare into the hole it came out of.
Yes, the Dendra armour is something else. They reckon it was pretty well restricted to chariot warriors on the grounds that you're not going to march all day wearing it :-)
Trust you to already know of it. :)
Jim wrote: "Yes, the Dendra armour is something else. They reckon it was pretty well restricted to chariot warriors on the grounds that you're not going to march all day wearing it :-)"Also a lot closer to what Brad Pitt should have been wearing if the makers of the film 'Troy' had paid any attention to their historical consultants.
Then his chest would have been covered!
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Trust you to already know of it. :)"You mean there are people who don't?
Richard wrote: "Also a lot closer to what Brad Pitt should have been wearing if the makers of the film 'Troy' had paid any attention to their historical consultants. ..."Strangely enough (or perhaps not strangely enough) I managed to avoid seeing Troy or the one with the Spartans and the war rhino
I have a low tolerance in certain areas.
The Patrician of Ankh-Morpork could find me asking to borrow his scorpion pit
Jim wrote: "Strangely enough (or perhaps not strangely enough) I managed to avoid seeing Troy or the one with the Spartans and the war rhino..."Conversely, it was seeing the 2nd half of the earlier 'The 300 Spartans' when aged about 10 which left me with a lasting impression that the ancient Greeks were way more interesting than the Romans. A view I hold to this day, although I have a soft spot for the emperor Didius Julianus.
Richard, how can I say this... Julianus is dead. You need to transfer your affections to the living...
I find the idea of having any sort of affection for a living politician somewhat strange to be honest.
Jim wrote: "I find the idea of having any sort of affection for a living politician somewhat strange to be honest."There has only ever been one truly great British politician:
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This is the internet's most random incarnation.Dendra was shut. Greece seems to run on cash and half days.
Did I mention we were offered a discount on the villa if we paid cash on arrival?
Then they bitch they have no social net.
But Patti has been good. Hasn't got into any political arguments with taverna owners even when they've tried to sit down at our table. With a bottle of ouzo. Argh.
Having to drive back to the villa has been very good. Bad for imbibing free ouzo. Good for sensible conversations.
Will wrote: "Except Tony Benn, of course.My hero."
Actually, there's a lot of Tony Benn's political views that I thought were dodgy but he did come across as a pretty straight bloke and I agree that in politics that's rare. I quite liked Mo Mowlam because of that, too.
Cheers
MTM
Both conviction politicians.As opposed to the current crop of politicians who need convicting.
Help yourself to the nuts, I'm struggling with broadband at the moment, working round engineers :-(
more photos posted Jim. hop you can look at them soon
David wrote: "I don't think that many authors have realised that they tend to drive the readers away by constantly self-promoting all the time and that they just end up talking to each other.I know that even ..."
I am new to Goodreads and agree, but it is not simple. Many authors are new to not only Goodreads but to social media in general, and sometimes the guidelines are not clear or very complicated in some groups. Also, authors are trying to do in general what the distributers want. Is it better to be up front (appropriately) or to infiltrate? I think up front is better. The flip (good side) is that Amazon has made available tremendous opportunities for writers and readers, for less cost (and a lot of free codes)--but there is a lot of material out there with a lot of buzz-there is too with the "traditional" paper publishers and their "promotion". I'd rather have the readers vote with their wallets when all is said and done, not third party filters in New York and elsewhere. You can't choose what you don't know.
I've just seen them Patti.Given that we're running at about 28 degrees here in the north west we're having a Greek experience all of our own :-)
I prefer a Geek experience.
It hit 30+ here today.I may have melted.
Will wrote: "It hit 30+ here today.I may have melted."
I was dripping when I got home!
Dropped in to see a friend in hospital at 7pm, it was probably hotter than hell
Thick fog early on but ee were over 30 deg under the poly roof.All my colleagues laughed at my white legs! But I didn't care cos I had the breeze around my knees
I went to look stock before breakfast,quite literally in the cool of the morning :-)By 10pm again our yard was quite pleasant to stand in.
It was the bit between that was a bit grim
It's fucking boiling here. About 34. Poor McOther was in London using the tube. There was a thunder storm so he was sodden and boiling hot at the same time.On the up side, only the top of the clone trooper's head is left. The rest has been eaten. The party went well, McMini declared it awesome and we even managed to jemmy everything into the Lotus and get it home. I have lots of cold pizza and stuff left from the buffet.
I have melted. Even indoors, making a very poor fist of icing a cake, I was boiling.
Cheers
MTM
Hmmm... did I use the word 'boiling' enough in that post.cheers
MTM
I'm glad there wasn't more fisting..
Patti (baconater) wrote: "I'm glad there wasn't more fisting.."Perhaps because I don't write that sort of book? :-)
Just gentle tearful romances where nothing much really happens and the hero agonises constantly about their wardrobe
Do you agonise about your wardrobe Jim?Patti, phnark.
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No one is directed there from Amazon: I think they have abandoned the experiment of the customer forum entirely"
Yes, if you don't already know about them, you'll probably struggle to find them