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Worst. F**king. Ending. Ever!
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I agree.

And Gale, it's like at the end Katniss didn't need him anymore so he just disappear from the story, after all he did for her... It wasn't his fault what happened to Prim! But we'll never be able to know what happened to him, I guess.
After the war, after everything they did... was it worth it? Life did get better for everybody? Or just for Peeta and Katniss? For me the end came way too quick, the war ended and suddenly everything was wonderful. NO. And we didn't enjoy Peeta and Katniss as a couple, either. I felt like the pain was the only topic of the book, I barely realized about the good moments, because they dind't last not even a page of the book, actually I felt like I readed a recap of the truly end, and that's what bothers me the most.


Agreed, I don't necessarily have to have happy endings, or sad endings, but endings that respect the rest of the books. And I think the ending of Mockingjay suited what the Hunger Games was even about. The only way to start something new was to get rid of everything that was rotten. The only way Katniss could begin to grow again was to be set free from everyone she'd known. The reason she stuck with Peeta was more or less because he knew everything she'd been through, and she knew everything he'd been through, and no one else was ever going to understand either of them.
Oh i know the ending was so lame. People are like "it's realistic" and I'm like just because it's realistic doesn't mean it's good. Happiness or even closure is realistic too.



Natasha wrote: "No need to be a f***ing b****. I can give my opinion here just the same as everyone else."
Are you talking to me natasha? Cuz I wasn't talking to you so don't fucking tell me not to bitch when I wasn't in the first place.
Are you talking to me natasha? Cuz I wasn't talking to you so don't fucking tell me not to bitch when I wasn't in the first place.

Right back at ya, honey. Maybe think twice about who you're talking to and what you're saying before you go VOLCANO at someone who didn't even talk to you. I was aiming my comment at the whole 'Worst. F***ing. Ending. Ever!' thing, as that's what this whole thing is ABOUT.
And no, I won't specify, because I don't NEED to and especially not to you.
And no, I won't specify, because I don't NEED to and especially not to you.

You're the one who accused me. You made the mistake. No one needs to specify anything.
Why are YOU the only one who has even 'blown up at me'? I don't think I'm the problem here. Back off.
Why are YOU the only one who has even 'blown up at me'? I don't think I'm the problem here. Back off.

I don't have a bad attitude I just stand up for myself when people I don't know accuse me of stuff I shouldn't be accused of.
So calm down honey just back off. Just leave me alone I've had enough of this end of.
So calm down honey just back off. Just leave me alone I've had enough of this end of.


I think this book had a better ending than any series I've ever read. It got the message that Suzanne Collins was trying to get across: we are desensitized to violence, open your eyes and see what happens.
It wasn't a happily ever after, it was unsettling, and that's the perfect way to end it. You cannot end a book like the Hunger Games, where you send 24 children to their death, with a simple happy ending. I think we should be grateful Katniss and Peeta lived to see the end of it. The ending was perfect.
It wasn't a happily ever after, it was unsettling, and that's the perfect way to end it. You cannot end a book like the Hunger Games, where you send 24 children to their death, with a simple happy ending. I think we should be grateful Katniss and Peeta lived to see the end of it. The ending was perfect.
Natasha wrote: "Seriously...don't call me honey and you needed to maybe back off from the beginning. Like I said it was unnecessary to take it any further."
Says you...
Says you...

BUT WHY MUST THE HOT FINNICK ORDAIR DIIIIE?
I HATE GALE FOR "purposely" KILLING PRIM!!
FUDGER!


Same were my emotions at the end. Even I found very hard to finish the book! Lost interest at the very beginning.

Agreed!

Precisely.

I agree. I think it was Collins' attempt to convey that 1- life isn't fair and 2 - no good deed goes unpunished.
Chin123 wrote: "WTF! Prim dies!!!!!!!"
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kristin wrote: "I'm so tired of people getting mad about the ending of this book. ITS A CIVIL WAR!! The ending isn't supposed to be fair or happy, its REAL! War and poverty leave orphans, widows, childless parents..."
Okay let me say this. I understand that it's a CIVIL WAR. I understand the point Collins was trying to make. I understand that things can't always have a happy ending. But I also understand that none of this means that it was a GOOD ending. It was crappy.
Okay let me say this. I understand that it's a CIVIL WAR. I understand the point Collins was trying to make. I understand that things can't always have a happy ending. But I also understand that none of this means that it was a GOOD ending. It was crappy.
emma wrote: "Natasha wrote: "Seriously...don't call me honey and you needed to maybe back off from the beginning. Like I said it was unnecessary to take it any further."
Says you..."
Totally agree with emma. I mean it's as easy as this,
"Was that comment directed at me?"
OH MY GOD THAT WAS EASY
before blowing up on someone.
maybe i shudnt get involved but that shit was ridiculous
Says you..."
Totally agree with emma. I mean it's as easy as this,
"Was that comment directed at me?"
OH MY GOD THAT WAS EASY
before blowing up on someone.
maybe i shudnt get involved but that shit was ridiculous
Thank you Baylor I agree with you but we've settled it it's over and lets get talking about this actual discussion again and I'm sorry for other peps who had to read all that shiz

1.) "WHY OH WHY did Finnick have to die?" If no one died in any of the books, it wouldn't be dramatic at all. May as well call it The Big-Ass Tickle Fight at that point.
Having a character that everyone cares about get killed adds emotional impact and a sense of drama to the story: "If he can die... why... ANYONE can. Even Peeta!!! Or Gale!!!"
2.) "Oh no, SHE died!!! It was so unnecessary!!!" (You all should know who I mean. It was spoiled once, I won't do it again... oh, and Snape kills Dumbledore.)
Actually... yes, her death WAS necessary. See, if it didn't happen, Katniss would have thrown in with Coin, who was at least as bad as Snow. The Capitol would have been replaced with District 13, bit nothing else would have changed. "Meet the new boss... same as the old boss."
3.) "Katniss should have been with Gale!!!" No... Gale wasn't there for some of the most dramatic parts of her life. He wasn't there to support her. He basically invented the technique that killed HER (Dumbledore, not Snape).
However... she shouldn't have ended up with Peeta, either. Looking at him will be like reliving all of the most horrifying moments of her life. He was present for pretty much each kill she was forced to make. PTSD on steroids, people. Romantic, eh?
I still say, though, that the end was much better than the rest of the book. Collins would have us believe that the defense of the Capitol, the most important city in Panem, was left in the hands of game designers... and pretty much nothing else. Suspension of disbelief? Ummm... hell, no,


1.) "WHY OH WHY did Finnick have to die?" If no one died in any of the books, it wouldn't be dramatic at all. May as well call i..."
I love your assessment! I still love the book in its entireity, but you bring new perspective; and I thought the same thing about game designers - although, you have to admit, those are some pretty effed up designers, right? LOL OH and the Dumbledore/Snape thing - HILARIOUS!

In my interpretation, that was kind of the point though - the Capitol (Snow) was trying to break her and - mission accomplished; but she got her revenge in the end, however not entirely because BOTH of them (P&K) still have obvious flashbacks for what is deemed to be the rest of their lives.


And ticked ME off was that Katniss's and Peeta's children have black hair, blue eyes and blond hair, gray eyes or whatever. That's genetically impossible, isn't it? That's what really broke my immersion from the story.

I kinda got that too. Thought the ending was a bit rushed. I would have been happy with just a little bit more detail at the end.

That's actually pretty easy to justify: view the trilogy as her catharsis, and breaking the final links between her old life of virtual slavery, and her new life as a free individual trying to work out her problems on paper.
The entirety of the series up to the epilogue in book 3 was "their" time. The Capitol, District 13... everything in Katniss' life to that point were things that were inflicted on her by external forces, like the Hunger Games, the Quarter Quell, and the revolution.
Once she assassinates Coin, however, her life is her own: no need to kill some poor shmuck from District X who's sole crime is having his/her name picked from a drum, for example. There's no real need for her to wrap things up, as she has basically finished the story she needs to tell.
At least, that's how I read it.


David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."
Me too. Me. Freaking. Too. Mockingjay was HORRIBLE. No, BEYOND horrible. >:-(
Me too. Me. Freaking. Too. Mockingjay was HORRIBLE. No, BEYOND horrible. >:-(
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