Mockingjay (The Hunger Games, #3) Mockingjay discussion


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Worst. F**king. Ending. Ever!

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message 551: by Jennifer (last edited Jan 12, 2014 01:06PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jennifer Janie wrote: "David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Kat..."

I agree no matter how the book ended someone will always not Be happy. I think the ending of Mockingjayy was perfect and still don't understand why people are so angry about it.


Marielle Newton Shaye wrote: "I loved the book. It was exciting trying to rescue Peeta; first from the capital and then from mental programming. You have to understand that Katniss was always emotionally broken. She was stro..."
I reallly liked reading your response, I'd never thought of it this way, but it totally made everything make more sense!


Marielle Newton Alex wrote: "I agree on the Prim thing - I hated that she had to die, but, yes, her death did serve a purpose: it revealed the depravity and cruelty of the rebel leader, whatever-her-face-is. Without her death,..."
I agree, she says in the first book that she would probably end up marrying Gale, so if she had ended up with him, the books would be lintless and the story wouldn't have progressed because she would be no different from where she started. She has to meet her opposite in Peeta to realise the similarities that make Gale so wrong for her.
Plus, she's certain that Gale created the bomb that killed Prim!!!


message 554: by Kelly (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kelly Rylee from msg 28--- you said just what i feel!! What a badly written end.


message 555: by Mashal (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mashal Chhotani Honestly I liked the ending... it made sense and coin deserved to die... I hated that prim had to die but in the end at lest it wasn't one of those super Sappy ending and in the end it wasn't about having a happy ending it was to show the struggles she faced to defend her rights


message 556: by Mariane (last edited Feb 08, 2014 09:45PM) (new)

Mariane Reply to message 557 by Kristine:

Please reread Mockingjay page 130, first paragraph. Katniss kissed Gale.."the taste of heat, ashes, and misery...for such a gentle kiss."

Peeta was still in the Capitol's custody at that time, so YES, Katniss kissed Gale while Peeta was being tortured. Then Peeta was rescued with his memory hijacked so Katniss wrote him off and kissed Gale again somewhere. Duh!

If Katniss doesn't need a man in her life then why didn't she remain a spinster all her life instead of holding on to Peeta when that jerk Gale left her.

I understand the fans who keep standing up for Katniss as if she's a perfect character who can do no wrong BUT SHE'S NOT. Nobody is, even Peeta, though I found him to be the most compassionate of them all and yet the most tortured one who lost everything.

An alcoholic Haymitch looking after a depressed Katniss. My point? In psychiatry, it's not tolerated because it's a disaster waiting to happen. It's like a blind man being led by another blind man. They both have PTSD so they need therapy and be evaluated until the time they won't be a threat to themselves or to others. Yes, Greasy Sae was there but what kind of mother does Katniss have? She had issues too but if she can take care of others in District 4 then why not her own daughter.

I'm such a huge Hunger Games fan and no matter how I loved the trilogy and the movies, I'm still free to give my praises as well as criticisms to it as anybody else.


message 557: by Nikki (last edited Mar 11, 2014 05:53AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nikki Tuley The only problem I had with the ending is that the relationships between Peeta/Gale with Katniss was a large storypoint of 2.5 of the books and then was wrapped up in the last 2 paragraphs. I know that was not the only plotline, but it was a big one and for many was the primary reasons to be so drawn to the books.

It definitely left me very frustrated and disappointed that I invested so much into that aspect of the book..... for being a drawn out series the last 25% of the book felt really rushed to tidy up an ending that wasn't even that tidy.


message 558: by Pilar (new)

Pilar Bada Oh Boy! Never read Game Of Thrones


message 559: by Maria (new) - rated it 3 stars

Maria Polito i like the ending it was twisted and it works at least for me i like it when things end in a matter that we have no freaking clue why or how things happened they just did i leaves us woundering why. and we make our own assumptions. i didnt love the ending nor did i hate it. its ok


message 560: by Maria (new) - rated it 3 stars

Maria Polito Kristine wrote: "Mariane, I'm not trying to change your experience of the book but you have quite a few things wrong.

1. You can't have a description of anything if it's not witnessed by Katniss as it's first pe..."

i completly agree it makes sense a twisted ending that i agree with not the best or the worst


message 561: by Jacque (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jacque I felt it was a realistic ending. Is it sad? Yes, but with a light at the end of the tunnel. Katniss and Peeta find solace in each other, fall in love all over again and even have a couple of kids. Gale was, in all honesty, a pretty selfish character (not always a bad thing, but sometimes...), and yes Prim's death was meaningful and impacted Katniss in such a way that made the ending Collins envisioned possible. I honestly hate endings where nobody dies, or maybe that ONE character dies and it's a mediocre character and a mediocre death, and everyone comes out wiser for the experience and blah blah blah.


Andreea No one really won. They all lose, for a better future.


message 563: by Anthony (new)

Anthony ✻Anika✻ wrote: "Prim had to die for many reasons.. Katniss wouldn't have killed Coin if Prim hadn't have died. Gale was responsible for Prims death so Gale knew that Katniss wouldn't be able to forgive him for tha..."

No - that's not a reason, that's a contrivance, and the primary reason Mockingjay sucked royal a**.


message 564: by Harley (new) - rated it 5 stars

Harley Bennett ✻Anika✻ wrote: "Prim had to die for many reasons.. Katniss wouldn't have killed Coin if Prim hadn't have died. Gale was responsible for Prims death so Gale knew that Katniss wouldn't be able to forgive him for tha..."

Good explanation for Prim's death, and the relationship with Gale.


message 565: by Fadwa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Fadwa Marghany the thing that is bothers me the most that Prim dies?
like wtf ?? I read three books for this she dies all of this started because she wanted to save Prim but she dies ??


message 566: by Rachel (last edited Aug 22, 2016 08:37AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel David wrote: "Lindsey wrote: "I think it was a nice break from cookie cutter endings where everyone ends up happy and the girl has to make a heart-breaking decision between her two beaus. Boo-hoo."

I kinda disl..."


But if Prim hadn't died at the hands of Coin, Katniss would have never found out what Coin was really like and rather than having Snow as a leader they would have Coin who was just as bad. Yes Prim had been Katniss' will to go on but at the same time Prim dying revealed valuable information that essentially had it not been revealed THEN the whole story would be for nothing but the fact that we find out that Coin is as bad as Snow and therefore needs doing away with means that the story can be concluded properly by accomplishing what was set out in the first place, to create a better Panem.


message 567: by Anthony (new)

Anthony As if a creative author couldn't have figured out how tonsure Coin was as bad as Snow and still allow Katniss to save Primm? Ugh.

Primary story question: How will Katniss keep her loved ones alive while surviving the HG.

Author: She won't. #%$& you, thanks for playing.


message 568: by Anthony (new)

Anthony *to show.

Tonsure -


message 569: by KarmaSc0rpi0n (new)

KarmaSc0rpi0n Anthony wrote: "As if a creative author couldn't have figured out how tonsure Coin was as bad as Snow and still allow Katniss to save Primm? Ugh.

Primary story question: How will Katniss keep her loved ones alive..."


But that's the thing, killing Prim in it's own way was creative because throughout the book she represented innocence for Katniss. The tiny sliver of innocence that she got to keep and by killing Prim it symbolized how war destroys all innocence and that there's no way to salvage it. This symbolism was also carried on through Katniss expelling Gale in her life. That she can't ever go back to being that girl in the woods. Showing that war has irrevocable damage that can't be rebuilt unlike the buildings that were bombed.

It may have been cruel and seemed unnecessary to kill Prim, but it had its place in conveying the overall message of this book about war being hell.


message 570: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel KarmaSc0rpi0n wrote: "Anthony wrote: "As if a creative author couldn't have figured out how tonsure Coin was as bad as Snow and still allow Katniss to save Primm? Ugh.

Primary story question: How will Katniss keep her ..."


That makes so much sense and i had never quite seen the symbolism in such a way before. Thank you.


message 571: by Adele (last edited Sep 09, 2016 05:34PM) (new)

Adele WHY DID THE BOOK END LIKE THIS!!!!!!
For some reason, Colling always ends her series really badly. I mean the first couple books in the series are great, and then they end like *****. Same for the Underland chronicles. They were awsome, but then ended really weird.


message 572: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Adele wrote: "WHY DID THE BOOK END LIKE THIS!!!!!!
For some reason, Colling always ends her series really badly. I mean the first couple books in the series are great, and then they end like *****. Same for the ..."

Why do you think this is a bad ending?


message 573: by Molly (new)

Molly Watson I agree that the ending is bad, but not in the same way as everyone else. See, I think the ending is good with Katniss killing Coin because she is just as dangerous to her friends and family as Snow is, although he is already about to be killed anyway. I think Prims death was also quite important too, to show that not all endings are happy, that in war we loose even those most innocent and precious to you. Having Gale be the one to kill her, even accidentally, I think was also important, but also I think it was a way for Collins to get Katniss to choose Peeta (a good choice at that), for I don't think she could ever love a man who killed her sister (whet here accidental or not!). However the reason why I think the ending is depressing is that it doesn't show enough of Katniss and Peeta's love at the end. Yes, we read that they have two children, and that the games have finished etc, but I think that Peeta and Katniss are supposed to be with each other because they love one another. Katniss even mentions that she didn't want to have the children but Peeta begged and begged her. I feel like this just shows us that their relationship isn't the same as it used to be, with Peeta's memory and both of them being scarred for life, it doesn't seem like a justified ending. I feel like they need to have a longer closing but with more happiness in at, because for Christ sake haven't they just gotten rid of the one thing they hated? Haven't they just defeated the Capitol and killed the ones most responsible? I think it's a great book and I love the series, but the ending isn't as justified as it could be within Peeta and Katniss.


message 574: by Angela (new)

Angela I totally understand the ending. And by the ending I mean epilogue, where Katniss and Peeta are together with kids. Katniss never saw herself as a true symbol of rebellion. Everyone just assumed she was and used her as much as they could. She only followed along as long as it aligned with her own missions to revenge Snow or to save Peeta or to stay alive herself. Katniss needed Peeta because he was keeping her alive either by new tricks or by lifting her spirit. So the ending is totally logical and understandable. Since Snow was dead and Prim was dead there was nothing to keep Katniss with rebellion or new order and she went home and there Peeta came and lifted her spirits enough to have kids and feel love. Gail would never accomplish that with Katniss. She asked him to run away with her to the woods in the second book, but he rejected. Gail was a fighter for peoples sake, not for himself. Peeta on the other hand was the same as Katniss, he fought for himself and for Katniss because she would keep him alive. He understood that the moment he got in the train with Heimlitch. It is " lived happily ever after" kind of story. Katniss and Peeta went through all kinds of trials for their "happily ever after".


the worst person you've never met I finished the book and my first thought was:

What?!


message 576: by [deleted user] (new)

I actually really liked the ending because it wasn't one of those main character magically is fine and gets everything. On the other hand she could have made it a little less depressing. Why did Prim have to die?


message 577: by Evie (new) - rated it 3 stars

Evie I sorta get why the author had Gale accidently kill Primrose, i mean its sad. But how was Gale supposed to know that he'll kill Primrose? Anyway, I didn't really like how Katniss chose Peeta instead of gale. I like Gale better but thats just me. there were definitly a lot of deaths in this book and it was sort of hard to read. I like the first book better, but overall i Liked the series.


message 578: by Hazel (last edited Oct 11, 2018 12:33PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hazel I honestly hate it when books end with the couple having kids and bla bla bla like in Harry Potter


message 579: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Hazel wrote: "I honestly hate it when books end with the couple having kids and bla bla bla like in Harry Potter"

But it wasn't like they were just thinking 'oh let's make a happy ending where they get married and have kids' kind of thing. Throughout the books Katniss talks about how she wouldn't ever have children so long as the hunger games were still around. It seemed logical that in time, once the games had been done away with, that she would probably choose to have children.


message 580: by Hazel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hazel Rachel wrote: "Hazel wrote: "I honestly hate it when books end with the couple having kids and bla bla bla like in Harry Potter"

But it wasn't like they were just thinking 'oh let's make a happy ending where the..."
Yah, I agree with you on that.


message 581: by isa (new) - rated it 3 stars

isa David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."

i was literally so disappointed. I hated how it ended. I kinda wanted her to end up with Gale or at least end on good terms with him.


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