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Once Upon A Time

Next week jack and the bean stalk and the giant.

Hurley as the Giant should be fantastic! I love this show!



Do you think August kept the money? I do.
Hurley as the giant was pretty cool too, a nice giant, who knew?

What's with the red room dream Henry and what's-her-name had? I keep forgetting what princess she is.


And I'm not very fond of the actress so that could be coloring my feelings for the character. Maybe if someone else was playing Aurora, I'd like her more. Maybe not, lol
Still an awesome show!


TVLINE | [Show bosses] Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz] told me going into the season that of all the newly self-aware Storybrooke residents, Ruby would have perhaps the biggest identity crisis. Does that come to a boil this Sunday?
Yes, definitely! [Laughs] It’s not a very good day in Ruby’s life.
TVLINE | And why is that?
It starts right off the bat with her being stressed out about the full moon, because she has no idea what’s going to happen. She’s had her wolfy senses coming back over the last couple episodes and she doesn’t know if she’s going to turn or not.
TVLINE | Regardless, all eyes are on her when someone turns up brutally murdered. Can you say who dies?
I don’t think you want me to say who dies; that’s the fun part. But yeah…. Because there’s a wolf in town, they go right for the wolf.
TVLINE | That seems like a nasty bit of profiling.
I know, right? This is not CSI.
TVLINE | Meanwhile in fairytale land, you have a storyline with guest star Annabeth Gish. How does she fit into Red’s past?
She plays Anita, who is very mysterious and very sexy. Her costume is kind of amazing, and people will be very excited to see her in this episode. She comes along during Red’s time of need, as we pick up about a month after where [Season 1, Episode 15] “Red-Handed” left off. Red’s still trying to deal with the fact that she killed Peter — and not doing it very well. Anita turns out to be just like Red, and is the leader of a pack of wolves that’s also human.
TVLINE | Is she like your Obi-Wan Kenobi? She shows Red the ropes? How to properly clean up after a turn?
Yes, exactly. She teaches me to check when I have a bit of someone left in my teeth.
TVLINE | Also this week, the dwarfs dig up something that could prove helpful in creating a portal….
The portal storyline is very interesting… I can’t say a lot about it but there are a lot of questions that are answered this episode, right from the get-go. A lot of stuff happens. It’s a crazy episode!
TVLINE | Is anything happening for Ruby on the romantic front? You’d think men would be banging down her door.
Well, the last time she was in love, she ate her boyfriend, so… I don’t know that she’s really open to going down that road again! But I’m very curious to see how she deals with that because at some point somebody will come knocking and she’ll have to decide if she wants to open the door or not.
TVLINE | Maybe the new character to be played by Ethan Embry…?
Hey, you never know. He’s playing a new guy in town… but I haven’t worked with him yet.
TVLINE | And how would you characterize Ruby’s relationship with Charming?
I think they have a very special relationship, because of Red’s relationship with Snow. I see Charming as a sort of brother figure to her. He’s the younger brother sometimes, and sometimes he’s the older brother. I like when they write that.
TVLINE | What is coming up in the other storylines?
We are going to find out more about the romance between Emma and Hook, which is very interesting.
TVLINE | There you go — Hook. Point Ruby at the new bad boy once he hits town.
Yes, yes….. There are all these new dudes around that potentially she could hook up with!



I love how the dreams are coming together. This means Henry can communicate with Emma and Snow! WooHoo!




I always say I'm going to hold a few episodes to watch together but then I never do.



I felt sorry for Regina at the end of this episode, how she's always left alone. It's of her own making, but this time she did help Emma and MM, the least they could have done was invite her with them all. This is the time to capitalize on her good side, show her that being good brings rewards like friendship. If they keep shunning her, she's going to go right back to the evil person she was. I have to admit I didn't think she would ever change, but now I see that she can, for Henry. And that should count for something to the townspeople.



Regina, by helping get the girls back, in essence offered an olive branch. Plus, with her mother coming to town, surely she has other, scarier fish to fry, right? “I hope so,” says Josh Dallas. “But with all great epic love stories, there are always obstacles thrown in front of the lovers – particularly with our show.” So as much as the reunited lovebirds may want a breather to assess “what their life is like now,” Dallas hints, “There are some things happening that the Charming family has to deal with. Cora and Hook are showing up, and we have something else happening in Storybrooke that needs our attention.” Hmmm.
WHAT WAS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT EMMA/MR. GOLD CONVO?
Having become aware that Rumplestiltskin knew from before her birth that she was the savior, Emma upon returning to Storybrooke confronted Mr. Gold about keeping secrets – only to realize that she has a surprise to share with him. “It’s a game of chess for her, because if she has the power to not have her heart ripped out by Cora, that makes her pretty powerful,” says Jennifer Morrison. “She doesn’t understand that power, though, and she doesn’t know the rules, but she doesn’t want to ask him for help, so she is in a delicate way trying to figure out how powerful she is in relation to him.”
WHO’S THE SHERIFF?
Now that Emma is back in Storybrooke, expect her dad to hang up his badge. Somewhat. “David always said he was only going to take over until she got back,” Dallas reminds. “Of course, naturally he’s a leader, so maybe we’ll see some father-daughter sheriffing going on. He likes the gun holster, for sure!”
HOW DID THE SHOW SEND EMMA TO FAIRYTALE LAND AND NOT ONCE GET HER INTO A PRINCESSY GOWN?!
“Ask Eddy and Adam!” Morrison says, deflecting the question to the show’s creators. “Because I was dying [wearing the same thing for 10 episodes]. I was like, ‘Can’t I lose my leather jacket and pick up someone else’s coat or something?’” Ginnifer Goodwin, similarly, is shedding no tears over shedding Snow’s fuchsia sweater. “We were in springwear. In Vancouver. In the winter,” she marvels. Plus, she points out, “We did visit the castle and my things are still there!” But in all seriousness, Goodwin says there was a good reason why Snow, specifically, stuck with her J. Crew look. “The costume department is actually very unbelievable about fighting tooth-and-nail to keep us warm… but [Horowitz and Kitsis] thought it would be easier for the audience to follow where and when we were – especially with me, since I’m a character you’ve seen in all times and all worlds.”
WHAT SORT OF WELCOME WILL HOOK AND CORA GET IN STORYBROOKE?
When I spoke to Colin O’Donoghue last week, he said that through episodes filmed to date, “Hook hasn’t had a huge interaction with many of the other characters” — possibly because he falls in with the wrong (meaning a righteous) crowd upon setting boot in the Maine burg. “It’s shocking and it’s exciting, and it’s not what you would expect,” Dallas says of Hook’s entrance into Storybrooke society. “He gets thrust into the group, as it were, quite violently!”
HOW DOES ONE SNEAK A VINTAGE PIRATE SHIP PAST THE COAST GUARD, ANYWAY?
Will Cora use fairy dust to transform Hook’s intimidating vessel into a mild-mannered shrimping boat? Will the captain pass himself off as a costumed tourist attraction? “People… don’t see the ship,” O’Donoghue teases. “He is with a very powerful person, after all!”



TVLine met up with Josh Dallas, who plays Prince Charming, to get a peek at what’s to come when Season 2 resumes a week from Sunday, on Jan. 6.
TVLINE | I asked Ginny [Goodwin] and Jen [Morrison] this first question, too: Was it kind of strange doing the split narrative, where half the cast was off doing something else and you’re no longer crossing paths with these people you worked so much in the first season?
Yeah, but there’s something nice about having a whole new group of people that you’re working with. And even though we were all separated, we were all kind of working towards the same common goal, so it felt like we were all together anyway. But yeah, it was a change from Season 1 for sure.
TVLINE | When Charming got stuck in the sleeping spell, my first thought was, “Oh, I guess Josh just got a couple of weeks off.”
Yeah, when I read that script, I was like, “Oh, OK, another sleeping curse. Good thing I did Coma Acting 101 in college” – which I also got to use in the first couple of episodes in Season 1!
TVLINE | Captain Hook and Cora are now in Storybrooke, but their respective adversaries are Rumplestiltskin and Regina, which will likely keep those two distracted. Is now the time for Snow and Charming to finally be happy?
With all great, epic love stories, there are always obstacles thrown in front of the lovers, all of the time — and particularly with our show. And I think certainly in the case of Snow and Charming, that will continue to happen throughout the series. But at the moment, now that they’ve gotten back together and they’re both in Storybrooke, there is time to breathe and think about where they are, who they are, what their relationship was and what it can be now, where they belong….
TVLINE | “Do they expand their family? And what are the ramifications if any of another ‘true love’ baby?”
Yeah. There are all those kind of questions going on. Of course, there are things happening in Storybrooke that the Charming family has to deal with first. Besides Cora and Hook showing up, we have something else that’s happening that needs the family’s attention. There are things that are going on that prevent them from kind of really taking that time [to relax], but they find their way around it and start talking about their future.
TVLINE | Is Regina going to almost regret that she helped get the ladies get back? Obviously it was a magnanimous gesture, but…. She looked vaguely perturbed when Henry walked off with Emma.
Regina is interesting, because when it comes to Henry, he is her only thread to real goodness, her only chance at real redemption. I think she will try to do whatever it is that will make Henry happy, but whether she regrets her decision to help give Henry his mother and his family back…. “Maybe.” That’s all I can say.
TVLINE | What kind of welcome do Hook and Cora get in Storybrooke? Do they just walk into town, down Main Street…?
No, it’s shocking. It’s shocking and exciting, and it’s not what you’re expecting for their welcome — particularly for Hook. I’ve tried not to give any of this away, but he gets thrust into the group, as it were, quite violently.
TVLINE | Might there be some thumping of chests with Charming and Hook?
There might be…. I mean, Charming doesn’t take kindly to people who are liars and manipulators — he finds that a real weakness in people — and Hook is one nasty character. Of course, they haven’t met yet, properly, but I think there’s going to be some interesting things for sure between the two of them.
TVLINE | David Anders tweeted [in late November] that he was being kept “uber-busy” as Whale. Do you get pulled into that at all? He and Charming had been clashing ever since Snow’s “We were cursed!” confession.
I think Charming feels like he’s settled that score. You know, he’s a man, he still has jealousies and [Whale] was messing with his woman. But Dr. Whale and David are cool now. I don’t think they’ll be “best friends,” but Dr. Whale is someone that can be very useful in Storybrooke — and that will come into play once Hook comes into town.
TVLINE | How does the sheriff thing shake out now that Emma’s back?
David always said that he was only going to take over until she got back, because he so believed Emma and Snow would return. Of course, naturally he’s a leader and he’ll always be there to lead, so maybe we’ll see some teaming up, some “father-daughter sheriffing” going on. He likes the gun holster, for sure. [Laughs]
TVLINE | We haven’t had any good ol’ Fairytale Land flashbacks in a while. Are some coming up?
Yes, for sure. I can’t remember the title of the episode, but you’re going to see more of the story between Regina, Snow and Charming.
TVLINE | Ginny indicated to me that there might be stuff in Charming’s past to explore further.
Oh, absolutely. That will come much later into the season; there is a lot more to explore with his whole life. He has a twin brother that was never fully realized in the first season — we just saw kind of a glimpse of him — so maybe we’ll see that story with him and King George.
TVLINE | We still don’t know Charming’s real name. Didn’t [series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis] say we’d find it out this season?
We will find out. We will find out. It’s surprising what it is. It’s surprising and it’s obvious… which is weird!

Ausiello: The best answer series cocreator Eddy Kitsis will part with, regarding August being seen again this season, is: “Perhaps.” He goes on to add, ”We are hoping to have him back. August is an important part of the fabric of the story, and it’s a story that we are continuing to tell.” In the meantime, though, Kitsis confirms that “you will get the answer” to what it was that August showed Neal Cassidy to convince him of Emma’s fantastical backstory.
Question: I have a question about Once Upon a Time: Are there any chances to get the Huntsman/Jamie Dornan back? I miss him so much!!!
Ausiello: As has often been the series creators’ refrain, you will maybe someday see Dornan again in a flashback, but never in Storybrooke. “[Sheriff] Graham is dead,” asserts Kitsis, “and if we brought him back, everyone would say we were messing with continuity. We don’t want to do that.” Kitsis notes that last season revealed one love of Emma’s life — son Henry — while this cycle introduced us to another, Neal Cassidy, who likely will resurface during February sweeps. As for a certain pushy pirate? “Hook is obviously eye-candy,” Kitsis allows. “I don’t know if Emma would stare at him and think he’d be a great father to Henry, but he might be fun in Vegas!”

TVLINE | The fall finale left off with Hook and Cora approaching Storybrooke by ship. Will there be any stealth involved in actually entering town? Might you stop into a J. Crew, grab some normal clothes…?
No, he doesn’t stop into a J. Crew. [Laughs] He’s in his regular clothes but he is a little bit stealthy. He stalks Rumple a bit, and it’s about him figuring out a way to get back at Rumple and not go straight in all guns blazing, because at the end of the day Rumplestiltskin is still powerful.
TVLINE | OK, because I was wondering: Is Hook going to be surprised to learn there is magic in Storybrooke? Because the bill of goods Cora sold him was, “There’s no magic in this place, so you’re going to be able to show up and kick ass.”
It is a surprise, so he has to figure out what’s the best way to get to Rumple, the best way to get his revenge, because obviously Hook is not really a magical character.
TVLINE | I was thinking maybe there’s a way to take Rumple’s advantage away from him. Because if there’s one person that doesn’t like the fact that he uses magic, it’s Belle. Is that something Hook’s going to play with?
Belle is such a huge part of Rumple, you know what I mean? So, you know, she might figure into the equation….
TVLINE | And Hook does fancy himself a pretty lady.
[Laughs] I think Hook fancies himself whatever is going to benefit him the most, because he’s definitely that type of character. Who knows? He might use Belle, he might not.
TVLINE | What kind of welcome does he get from the other people in town? Josh [Dallas] said there was something violent about how you get introduced to Storybrooke society.
Yeah, how I get introduced is a little bit of a “Whoa! Wait a second!” moment. So he hasn’t had much interaction with many of the townsfolk.
TVLINE | What about the ship itself? Do you use, like, fairy dust to make it look like a shrimping boat? Pass yourself off as a tourist attraction? Because if I’m the Coast Guard in Maine, I’m making phone calls.
The ship is…. People don’t see the ship. He is with a very powerful person, after all.
TVLINE | Speaking of that person: How is it working with Barbara Hershey?
Barbara is fantastic, really fantastic. I’ve had a lot of scenes with her, obviously, and I’ve had such a great time working with her. She’s just a wonderful person.
TVLINE | One of the most polarizing topics on TVLine is the possibility of a Hook-Emma romance. Given how they left things on the other end of the portal, has that ship sailed, so to speak?
I don’t know if it’s sailed. Hook and Emma, they have a kind of… a funny sort of relationship. I think they, in some kind of weird way, respect each other because they can see elements of themselves in the other person. You know what I mean? Like, Emma is no saint….
TVLINE | Jennifer Morrison said to me the same thing, that they were similar in that respect.
Yeah, so they are very similar. And it’s like you say, “Hook likes himself a pretty lady” and he’s also not afraid to stand up to Emma, which I guess not many people do, really.
TVLINE | Plus, now that she has freshly bested Hook, that’s probably kind of a charge for him.
Yeah, yeah. And so I’m interested to see what way it’s going to go.
TVLINE | Do you believe Hook was sincere about the deal that he tendered over in fairytale land? “I’ll help you get the enchanted wardrobe ashes if you bring me to Storybrooke”?
You saw in the midseason finale a little glimmer of him, in a way, honoring his offer — when he gives back Aurora’s heart and stuff like that. It’s like, ‘Look, I may be a nasty piece of work, but I do have my code.” Now, whether that code is slightly askew from most people… [Laughs] I think their relationship is a funny one. I think they both enjoy the banter that they have with each other. Even though she pretends not to, he definitely does. I think there are very few women in Hook’s life who’ve ever gone, “Nope, not interested.” For him, that’s like, “Whoa.” The challenge has sort of been set.

Aside from that, what a bitch Cora is! Now that is evil to the core. At least Regina's revenge was a twisted love, I don't know what Cora's deal is besides domination and hatred. But I'm glad I have a new villain since Regina hasn't been acting villain-like lately. I wonder who the real dead person it, I was kinda horrified that they'd kill off Jiminy Cricket!
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Amer Horror started last week, it wasn't as good as last year's premiere episode. But I'm confident that it'll be as good as last season.
I want to see Abe Vamp Hunter too. Thanks for the reminder.