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No no no. No spin off. That will take away from the originality of the show about fairy tales.
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I don't want to see a Mad Hatter spin off, or any spin off for that matter. I like how we get a little of all the fairy tales, once they split off we won't see them anymore.
Once Upon a Time | Since many – myself included – have speculated that Cora cast some sort of spell on her daughter, and that’s why Regina seems to have abandoned her redemption tour, I asked the series’ creators if we are onto something. Short answer: Nope. As Eddy Kitsis reminds, “In Episode 9, we saw Regina say, ‘I have to kill you, Mother. Your grip on my heart is too strong.’ So while the audience is right to be wary of Cora, and Regina is right to be wary of her mother’s true intentions, we can never forget how important the need to get your mom’s approval and love is.” Adam Horowitz meanwhile offered this teaser for fans of Lana Parrilla’s ever-unpredictable alter ego: “We’re going to see some Regina unleashed!”
Once Upon a Time‘s family tree got a lot more contorted when the ABC drama revealed that Rumplestiltskin’s long-lost son and Emma’s baby daddy are one and the same. The same episode ended with a grim bombshell, that The Dark One learned long ago from a seer that the “young boy” who reunites him with Bae would be his “undoing” — to which Rumple shrugged, “Then I’ll just have to kill him.”TVLine spoke with Jennifer Morrison about Emma’s reunion with her first love Neal (and what it means for any potential “Hook-up”) and the dark cloud hanging over Henry, as Season 2 resumes Sunday at 8/7c.
TVLINE | So, Rumplestiltskin’s son is also Henry’s dad and Emma’s ex (played by Michael Raymond-James). Do you feel the show is strongest when dealing with these tangible family dysfunctions, albeit in a fantastical context?
It’s an unbelievable family tree, and when you really start to dive into those relationships and the connections between those people and the relationships between those people, it really starts to come to life. As an actor, that’s what excites me, to get to play with and figure out the best possible way to bring that stuff to life.
TVLINE | What I liked about “Manhattan” is that characters had a chance to, like, stop and breathe. I’m watching the scene in the bar, thinking, “This is really great, because Emma and Neal are just talking like people talk.” There’s no mystical mumbo jumbo going on.
There is sort of an interesting relief about having a breath in the real world, where there is no magical solution to something. It’s just real people with real problems and they’re going to have to deal with it — and Emma, I always feel like she’s a different person when she’s taken by surprise. She’s worked so hard to build a tough exterior in order to protect herself, based on all the things she’s been through in her life, that she is always her most vulnerable and her most vulnerably honest when she’s taken by surprise, because she doesn’t have time to process her thoughts or to put that wall up. It allows for a lot of stuff to come out of her that we don’t normally get to see.
TVLINE | We were left with quite the reveal, in what the seer told Rumplestiltskin…
There’s now this looming threat, basically, on Henry’s life that no one’s aware of, and it’s something I think they’re setting up to pay off over time. It’s also interesting because the Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold character has really evolved — we’ve gotten to see two very different sides of this man, even in the Storybrooke world. He does have this love for Belle and he does have capacity to be good, and yet he’s also got this capacity to be darker than anyone else. He’s also made true on his deals with Emma, so oftentimes Emma does end up aligning with him, knowing it’s like “the devil you know or the devil you don’t.” With him, there’s a certain, almost bizarre “code of ethics” to his evil.
TVLINE | But like you just said, we the audience now have to somehow reconcile that with the fact that he has this longer term plan that does not bode well for little Henry.
He does, yeah — and if there’s anything we know about Gold, it’s that he will do whatever it takes to save himself. That is obviously the most foreboding, knowing that if Henry is a threat to his life, he will definitely be a threat to Henry’s.
TVLINE | Is the story moving forward about Emma coming around to Neal’s point of view on why he bailed on her back in the day? He’s laid out his case.
It’s a lot for her to take in all at once, and she doesn’t really have time to process any of it because so much happens so quickly, immediately after getting this information. I do think there is some sort of closure in her mind, having the explanation that he wasn’t just screwing her over. But that doesn’t change the fact that he still made a decision to not be with her, to allow her to suffer even more by letting her go to prison. In her mind, when there is love that was as true as what she had for him, you choose love. You don’t choose the person who comes to you and tells you, “Well, she’s got a job to do.” It’s why it’s hard for her to completely forgive her parents for giving her up, like she said early in this season. “Yes, you did what you thought was right for everyone else, but what about what was right for me? I would have been in a curse, but I would have been with you.”
TVLINE | That was a great point she made.
She seems to always be the victim of that particular circumstance, which is someone making a decision for the greater good and her having to serve the greater good, instead of anyone taking care of her or letting her take care of herself.
TVLINE | Has Emma unwittingly leveled the playing field with regards to Regina? Is Regina going to seize an opportunity to prey on Henry’s hurt?
On some level. But unfortunately for Regina at this point, she is so wrapped up in her own sort of mess that’s going on with her mother… and her failing at trying to not use magic … that she sort of misses seeing her opportunity. She does make a move to get him back, but she doesn’t necessarily make the most strategic move based on the circumstances.
TVLINE | As we have seen, she and Cora have a much larger, nastier endgame going on.
This is [creators] Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz] doing such a great job of seeing the complications of human nature, which is that she still has a love for her mother, despite all the terrible things that have happened. It makes that situation incredibly complicated for her. Regina is incredibly powerful and she has found ways to push her mother out of her life, but now that she’s back … it’s hard for her not to be seduced by that idea of maternal love again.
TVLINE | Adam told me that Emma’s love life is going to become “really complicated” — care to elaborate?
[Laughs] I think it’s becoming incredibly complicated, incredibly slowly. Nothing happens quickly for Emma in love, unfortunately. Neal has someone in his life (played by The Walking Dead‘s Sonequa Martin-Green), so even though Emma’s saying she doesn’t care for him, you see that glimpse of, “Oh, I really don’t want to hear about this guy having someone he’s in love with.” In the meantime, obviously there’s always been a connection, some kind of “kindred spirit” element, between Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) and Emma.
TVLINE | Well, I was going to ask about Hook, because I know that while he comes with lots of baggage, here he is now, freshly betrayed by Cora and Regina. Maybe he’ll look to align with the forces of good for a bit?
I’ll be interested to see what happens with that, because we haven’t gotten to a point yet to see what that decision is. He’s so caught up in his own need to have revenge against Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold for what he did to Milah. All we know is that Emma does definitely feel a connection to him because she also started out as a thief, she also started out as abandoned in certain ways, she also lost love at a young age…. They have all these things in common, so as much as she sees him as someone she needs to keep under control or keep away from her son for sure at this point, there’s an undeniable connection between them as well.
All signs point to Neverland!That's pretty much what Once Upon a Time executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis told fans at the show's PaleyFest panel on Sunday after teasing the final two episode titles of Season 2. Hint: They're the directions to Neverland! But that wasn't the only clue given, and it definitely wasn't the only scoop the producers and cast provided!
Before the ABC fairy-tale drama ventures to another realm, dark times lay ahead — especially for Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin), who will make a declaration on Sunday's episode that will send her down a dark path. Ahem. Check out the 13 best spoilers from the panel below:
1. The end, revealed: The final two episodes of Season 2 will be a two-parter, entitled "Second Star to the Right" and "Straight on Till Morning." Considering these are the directions to Neverland, it sounds like we'll be meeting the Lost boys soon!
2. Not-so Snow White: A tragedy in Sunday's episode will put Snow White on a path for revenge. "What she is going through is going to shake her self-identity and self-definition," Goodwin says. "If she is not the Snow White... then she doesn't know who she is." Seeing this different side to Mary Margaret will certainly cause some concern in David (Josh Dallas). But "he's going to be there for her no matter what and support her through everything," Dallas says. But how dark will Disney let the producers go? "When you see ['The Miller's Daughter'], the answer to that is they're pretty much letting us do what we want."
3. Family reunion: After Sunday's episode, Bae (Michael Raymond-James) will be Storybrooke-bound alongside Rumple (Robert Carlyle), Emma (Jennifer Morrison) and Henry (Jared Gilmore), but whether that means there's a reconciliation on the horizon remains to be seen. "In Episode 22, there's a game-changer that really happens in terms of the relationship with his son," Carlyle teased.
4. Henry's fate: After the seer told Rumple that a boy would be his undoing, the Dark One will find himself in a very similar position to when he lost his son. "When Rumple was last given a choice between love and power, he let his son go, so the question is, has he learned anything? Or will he let his own grandson go?" Kitsis said. Since semantics was very important to the seer, Horowitz made sure to note, "Is 'undoing' a bad thing?"
5. A return to fairy tale land? Now that the key to their return is literally growing in their backyard — Anton's bean! — the possibility of returning to fairy tale land will become a hot topic in Storybrooke. "As much as David likes electricity, he misses his sword, his horse and his castle," Kitsis said. "He wants to kill some ogres and wants to rebuild his land. That is something a lot of people will get on board for, but we'll see what happens."
6. Captain Hook's vengeance: Ye ol' captain will get a taste of revenge in Sunday's episode, but don't expect to see him again for a few episodes, considering that Colin O'Donoghue actually broke his leg in real life. When he does return, Kitsis teased it would be in a very surprising way. "He is out for himself," Kitsis noted.
7. The Evil Queen returns: Though Regina (Lana Parrilla) has made attempts at being good this season, her dark side will really take over in the coming episodes. "Being good didn't quite work out for Regina," Parrilla said, noting that part of Regina's downfall was her need for her mother's love. But redemption is a thing of the past now. "It's a little bit behind her now. Regina as the Evil Queen is going to make a comeback in a different way and it's going to be exciting to see."
8. A very twisted love triangle: Though some viewers still have hope for Emma and August (Eion Bailey) — whom the producers said will return later this season — most seem to be divided between her chemistry with Hook and her previous relationship with Bae, which seriously makes for a really weird triangle. The Charming parents wouldn't necessarily stop Emma from reuniting with her former flame. "They want to make sure she has a shot at their happy ending," Dallas said. But they would in the case of Hook. "I don't think that we would be too keen on being with someone who shared her baby daddy's mother's bed," Goodwin adds.
9. Welcome to Storybrooke: That's actually the name of an upcoming episode that will flash back to the first week after the curse was enacted in 1983. The episode will also mark the return of Sheriff Graham (Jamie Dornan) and Billy the Mechanic (Jarod Joseph). "We are going to get more insight into what that was like in that very first week in 1983 and what is was like for the Evil Queen to win," Kitsis said, adding that we'll discover why Regina chose to adopt Henry in the episode.
10. The Once spin-off: Despite internet rumors — or maybe because of them — Kitsis and Horowitz said that they do not plan to re-cast the Mad Hatter. Sebastian Stan will still play Jefferson, though they noted that we won't see him any time soon since Stan is a very busy man.
11. Belle's getting racy: Remember when David initially woke up from his coma and his cursed alter-ego life finally kicked in? The same will happen to Belle (Emilie de Ravin) in the upcoming episode "Lacey," which is the name of her cursed alter ego who is the complete opposite of Belle. "Things are going to get a lot more interesting for Mr. Gold," Kitsis noted, before Parrilla added that Regina may recruit Lacey.
12. A new land: The producers teased that the show will venture to a new land before the end of Season 2. They also teased that we will get more backstory on Hook and Bae, who, we'll learn into Sunday's episode, can also sail a pirate ship. Hmm. Considering the final two episode titles, it seems like the show will be venturing to Neverland. But does that mean Bae is Peter Pan?! Kitsis also noted that they'll tease a new character in that land, but we won't actually meet him or her until Season 3.
13. Emma's heart: Why Cora (Barbara Hershey) was unable to rip out Emma's heart in the midseason finale is easily explained in a Harry Potter-esque way. It was love that protected her heart after she planned to sacrifice herself to save her mother. "Emma proved in that moment that love was strength," Kitsis said.
I just hope they don't screw this up doing a spinn off this soon. now starting this Sunday how many episode do we have left and do you know there episode names?
This Sunday, Ep16: The Miller's DaughterEp17 Mar. 17, 2013 Welcome to Storybrooke
Ep18 Mar. 24, 2013 Selfless, Brave and True
Ep19 Mar. 31, 2013 Lacey
Ep20 Apr. 7, 2013 The Evil Queen
Ep21 Second Star to the Right
Ep22 And Straight on Till Morning
No dates yet for the last two, info from imdb
Thank you go a dvr all of them and watch in a marthon on my birthday apirl 26.
That's a good birthday present to yourself. I'll say an early Happy Birthday Timothy to you now. Age? Or is that as bad as asking a woman that question? lol
Eps 21 and 22 are the final ones of the season
Just watched Millers Daughter. What did Cora say to Regina just before she died? I don't understand why she did die.
Wait, is it because MM said her name over the candle and then because she was holding Rumples knife?
Go back to the ep when Snow was a kid and her mother was dying, the candle the Blue Fairy (really Cora in disguise) gave her had the power to save a life at the cost of another. MM used that candle to save Rumple's life, at the cost of Cora's. Cora said: "This would have been enough. You. You would have been enough".
Cora had her heart back, and the real love she had for her daughter was finally back. It was really sad. If only she didn't take out her heart all those years ago, she might have been a different person.
I wonder if Snow is going to suffer the consequences of making a decision like that. It could put her on a dark path.
I doubt it, she can't live with what she's done, and that's to someone who deserves it; she won't be doing anything like it again. She's already whining about it.Personally, I'd like her to go dark, just for a little while, explore that side of her. See if David can still love her, that'd be a great test of their love. But they'll never do it. The writers of these shows have no balls and never do the unexpected, never push the envelope.
I thought there was something else she had to do with the candle over the person who was dying.
Snow did the spell earlier in Regina's vault where Snow said Cora's name over the heart with the candle above the heart. It was activated when the heart gets put back into Cora, which is why she needed to trick Regina into doing that part.
From Once Upon A Time wiki "Something she (Snow) remembers about the candle is that it only works if you whisper the victims name over them, and does not understand how she can do this to Cora. Mr. Gold tells her a heart will work too. He tells her that since Cora's heart is outside of her body, she can curse the heart, and put it inside her body, and Cora will be killed."
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From an interview last week:2. Not-so Snow White: A tragedy in Sunday's episode will put Snow White on a path for revenge. "What she is going through is going to shake her self-identity and self-definition," Goodwin says. "If she is not the Snow White... then she doesn't know who she is." Seeing this different side to Mary Margaret will certainly cause some concern in David (Josh Dallas). But "he's going to be there for her no matter what and support her through everything," Dallas says. But how dark will Disney let the producers go? "When you see ['The Miller's Daughter'], the answer to that is they're pretty much letting us do what we want."
What happens now? With an eye on this game-changing development, TVLine ran some burning questions past the series’ stars at last Sunday’s PaleyFest event.HOW DISTRAUGHT IS SNOW WHITE, HAVING KILLED CORA? | “Extremely. It’s definitely going to change her completely forever,” Ginnifer Goodwin told us. “What happens [in 'The Queen Is Dead' and then 'The Miller's Daughter'] will shake her self-confidence, her self-definition, her identity. And once those things go, it’s really hard to be happy.”
HAS THE SNOW/REGINA FEUD REACHED THE NEXT LEVEL? | “Things are [heating up], for sure,” said Goodwin. “The end of the season is coming, and I predict explosions. I have not read the last episodes … but I feel like ‘the Shiite has to hit the fan’ with this many obstacles piling one on top of the other.”
HOW WILL REGINA REACT TO CORA’S KILLING? | “Regina is just a mess right now. She really is just a mess,” said Lana Parrilla. “Now she has two reasons to hate Snow White. The first one was because she broke a promise and Danny was killed because of it. And now, she has a hand in her mother’s death. So this is just devastating for Regina on so many levels. I think that road to redemption is now far behind her.”
WILL VENGEFUL REGINA HAVE TO TIP-TOE AROUND SON HENRY? | It sounds like the lad is due to grow up in that regard, and fast. As Parrilla noted, “Children have a lot of insight, but at the same time, a lot of what’s happening isn’t meant for a child to see or to get to really be involved in. So I think that she’s going to say, ‘You know what, Henry? You’re my son. You’re 11-years-old. I’m the adult. I’m going to start taking the lead here.’”
WILL THIS DARK TURN CAST A SHADOW ON THE CHARMINGS’ FUTURE? | “What happens to Mary Margaret and her relationships will definitely affect how they address whether or not they are going to go back to fairytale land,” Goodwin shared. Series cocreator Eddy Kitsis added, “It complicates the plans in that David warned her, ‘You won’t be able to live with yourself’ — and that is actually the case. What she’s looking for is, how do I lighten my heart? How do I restore it? David’s job is going to be to help her, but I do think he believes the best way is to go home and rebuild what they had.”
WILL CAPTAIN HOOK MOURN HIS COHORT? | Whenever (and wherever, heh) the pirate resurfaces, “There will probably be a tinge of regret that it’s happened,” Colin O’Donoghue ventured. “Whether or not they were friends, I don’t know — that’s up for debate — but she certainly helped him try to achieve what he wanted to achieve. So it’s a big shock.”
WILL ROSE (MCGOWAN) BLOOM AGAIN, AS YOUNG CORA? | “This season, no. But we absolutely need to see her again next season,” Kitsis said of this week’s flashback guest star. “We wrote that role for her because we were such fans … and she exceeded our expectations. I could just watch her forever.”
DID MR. GOLD’S ‘GOODBYE’ CALL SPARK BELLE’S MEMORIES? | Not quite, so now that he has cheated the Grim Reaper, he’s going to try to work his magic, literally and/or figuratively. “In Episode 19 [or] 20, he says to Belle, ‘I’m going to do everything in my power to bring you back for your sake and for mine,’” Robert Carlyle previewed. Because in addition to having his lady love back on his arm, “There’s another reason why he needs her there. He really needs the good in him to come out, and she’s the one that can best bring [that] out.”
Interesting turn of events that the guy who had an accident in SB and stayed was almost kidnapped as a child by Regina. His "her" is Neal's fiancé and she believes in magic but wants to what? Put everyone in a lab and experiment on them? A few disappointments....killing the Dragon gut with nothing more then a stun gun? Really? Sure made him look like an idiot.
And Pinocchio becoming real again but not August, as a little boy? Disappointed. Maybe Henry will have a friend his own age now.
I didn't like "her" and wanted her gone. Now I hate her, manipulative evil bitch that she is. But I know she's gonna be around for a while, causing trouble. I feel bad for Neal to be used like that. The only good thing is that Emma will figure it out. Maybe 'her' can drain Regina of her power. I want to know what she wants magic for, and if by killing the Dragon, did she obtain his power? Otherwise it makes no sense.Totally agree about the disappointment. Stun gun? Ummm, OK. I could see a gun killing someone. Do stun guns really have the capability to kill a person, is there that much juice in it? I didn't think so, but I don't know for sure.
And August being a kid disappoints me because I was hoping for a love triangle with Emma, Neal and August, hell, let's make it a quadrangle and include Hook. Now he's a kid but what's worse is that he doesn't remember what 'her' did to him. What the hell is her name anyway? Whoever she is, she supremely beautiful.
Good question about the dragons powers. I think a stun gun cranked up and used on just the right area on someone with a medical condition could be killed by one, basically causing a massive heart attack. But I really didn't buy it killing Dragon.
Neal is going to be pissed when he realized he's been con-Ed and for so long.
Question: How long before Neal figures out Tamara’s real deal on Once Upon a Time? —KellyAusiello: Not any time soon, so everyone there in Storybrooke — both magical and “Muggle” — had better watch their backs. Because make no mistake, Tamara isn’t pulling off her dirty work using any ol’ $99 stun gun. “We did not just kill a magical creature with an off-the-shelf Taser,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz affirms. “The Taser isn’t what it seems at first, and we get into that soon.”
Once Upon a Time‘s potential Wonderland-set spin-off has found its heroine. English-born Australian actress Sophie Lowe will play Alice in the project, which is now being called Once: Wonderland.Alice is described as having a generous heart. She carries the scars of a long hard life. Lowe joins the recently cast Brit Peter Gadiot as Cyrus, Alice’s love interest who has a mysterious background, and Michael Socha (the UK’s Being Human) as the Knave of Hearts, a sardonic adventurer, man of action, loner and heart-breaker.
The five-scene Wonderland presentation will film in Vancouver after Once wraps Season 2. The prospective spin-off is envisioned as an American Horror Story-style 13-episode standalone that would ostensibly bridge the original series’ wintertime hiatus.
Once creators Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz will pen the project with input from consulting producer Jane Espenson and Zack Estrin (Prison Break), the latter of whom is expected to run the series with Kitsis and Horowitz if it is greenlit.
Michael Socha! Yes! I'm excited now. I already planned on following him to whatever show he did next.
Did you also see the post above about the taser not being a "normal" taser? I was happy they explained that further! :)
Yes, as long as they have an explanation, I'm good with it.
I about died when I saw the beautiful Tom Ellis (The Fades, Merlin) in the Once Upon a Time promo. Do you have any scoop on his Robin Hood character? –SandiWhile Adam Horowitz says that Ellis is “amazing” in the role and Eddy Kitsis teases that he figures into “a very fun scene with Rumple,” the series’ creators stress that the Rumple/Belle-centric episode (airing April 21) will not also deep-dive into the Prince of Thieves’ backstory. “It’s done in the spirit of what we did a lot in Season 1 — bringing in a character and mashing him up with our story without having to do ‘the Robin Hood story,’” says Kitsis. “But now there is a character in our universe who, should the time arise, we would love to delve into further.”
ABC’s Wonderland-based Once Upon a Time spin-off — if it gets ordered to series — may hold a pair of queens in its hand.On the heels of British beauty Emma Rigby (the UK’s Hollyoaks, inset) being cast as the Red Queen in the four-scene “presentation” [see glossary], TVLine has learned that Barbara Hershey‘s Cora might also serve as a royal pain – if ABC picks up the limited series to bridge Once’s winter 2013-14 hiatus. (Official talks with Hershey likely won’t take place unless the pilot moves forward.)
Clarifying how Once Upon a Time in Wonderland (as it is currently dubbed) syncs up with Once Upon a Time proper, series cocreator Eddy Kitsis says, ”You will see [Wonderland] both post- and pre-curse. It will be very similar to Once in that there will be flashbacks of these new characters that take us to pre-curse Wonderland.”
Before Regina enacted the Dark Curse, as fans of ABC’s sophomore drama know, Wonderland was lorded over by the Evil Queen’s more evil queen mum Cora. “We can’t imagine visiting that time in Wonderland and not seeing Cora as the Queen of Hearts,” says series cocreator Adam Horowitz
As previously reported, the prospective spin-off’s Alice (played by Sophie Lowe) is described as having a generous heart scarred by a hard life. Other characters featured in the presentation — which will film in Vancouver this month after Once wraps Season 2 — are Alice’s love interest Cyrus (Peter Gadiot) and the Knave of Hearts (Being Human‘s Michael Socha), a sardonic adventurer.
PRE-FINALE EPISODES | As Season 2′s final four episodes continue to unspool uninterrupted, “You’re going to see all of our core characters front and center,” co-creator Adam Horowitz promises. Adds co-creator Eddy Kitsis, “Everything that’s happened to Snow and Charming and Emma and Regina and Rumple and Belle throughout this season… kind of interlocks as we get to the end, and we get to see them rise to some exciting challenges.” Our heroes’ obstacles include Tamara and Greg, whose agenda will soon be spelled out (“We intend to answer that mystery, but it’s really about what it means for Emma, Regina, Snow and everyone,” says Horowitz), a “really big” Episode 21 twist for the reunited Rumple and Bae and a major residency issue, as the magic beans become ripe for harvesting. “Obviously, Charming would like to go back home, but Snow is a bit hesitant because she wants Emma to go with,” Kitsis notes. “So… what will happen when Emma is faced with the option of going back?”MAY 12 SEASON FINALE | It is Horowitz’s hope that “And Straight on ‘Til Morning” — which leads out of the penultimate episode “Second Star to the Right” — “will deliver on an epic scope of storytelling, but what we’re really excited about is the emotion that were going for between these characters and what they’re about to experience. We’re hopefully pushing them to a new place both emotionally… and maybe literally.”
ABC’s Once Upon a Time returns Sunday at 8/7c with the first of Season 2′s final four episodes, kicking off with a tale in which Regina pulls a fast one on longtime foe Mr. Gold by turning his sweet love into a tart. Emilie De Ravin spoke with TVLine about Belle’s racy Lacey reversal, how the May 12 finale tees up an “anything goes” Season 3, and the times she most feels Lost on the set.TVLINE | Going into “Lacey,” what would you say is Belle’s current view of Mr. Gold? Because he seemed to move her a little bit a few weeks ago with his deathbed phone call. Though she was terribly frightened by him after the accident, is she coming around?
She’s coming around in a respect. As far as the phone call, that was probably the most emotional feeling she’s had since she was shot and forgot her identity. You can’t deny the honesty in his voice and neither can she, yet she can’t remember, so it’s this awful struggle of this man telling you who you are and all these beautiful things about you and that he’s in love with and wanting desperately to believe this. Even though there’s been the cup throwing and some not-so-trusting moments with him, he’s still really the only one who cares about her. She knows that even if she’s confused and pissed off about not remembering [their relationship], it’s pretty obvious that he’s not coming to see her to annoy her.
TVLINE | So then, what brings “Lacey” to Storybrooke?
Oh, the Evil One of course. [Laughs] Belle was never implanted with a Storybrooke memory, since she was locked away for 28 years and it was not necessary to give her one, so to mess with Mr. Gold, as per usual, Regina says she will give me my memory back but gives me “Lacey” instead.
TVLINE | And in what ways is Lacey different from Belle?
The script description is “scantily-clad bar whore,” but not in a provocative way. Yes, it’s in a sexy way, but not because she’s trying to draw attention. She just likes dressing like that! She’s fun. She’s happy where she is. She’s not an adventurer, so the bar (named The Rabbit Hole) is kind of like home. She probably plays pool there every night with the same people and does shots, she’s probably pretty irresponsible with money, a girl who’s just living life….
TVLINE | After more than enough weeks of sitting in that hospital bed, was it fun for you to let loose?
Oh, yeah. But I was not in the bed that long, physically, so it was all right. It was actually quite comfortable! I’d stay there between takes.
TVLINE | Regardless of this identity swap, might the episode offer “Rumbelle” fans some pleasing moments?
It’s going to give the Rumbelle fans some “interesting” moments, good and bad.
TVLINE | Personally, have you been itching for Belle to get her memory back, to resume that storyline with Robert Carlyle?
Oh yes. I’m looking forward to that, but at the same time a challenge is always a lot of fun. Playing, in this episode at least, Belle/Lacey and then Fairytale Belle — where it’s one day doing one, the next the other — is challenging but in a fun way. Lacey’s nice to have around for a bit.
TVLINE | Meanwhile in the Fairytale Land That Was…. What’s going on?
There is a thief (Robin Hood, played by Tom Ellis) who tried to steal something from Rumple — and Rumple of course doesn’t like that. There’s a bit of “torture,” shall we say? But when sweet Belle decides to set the thief free, Rumplestiltskin forces her on this hunt to find him. This Fairytale Land portion in “Lacey” takes place between him kicking me out of the castle and me going to fight the Yaoguai.
TVLINE | How would you tease the Season 2 finale?
It’s going to be big. One of the elements at play is, “Do we go home? Do we not?” There’s arguing about that, because that’s a pretty big decision. There’s also the matter of what’s going to happen to Storybrooke’s existence, seeing as it could be a bit in danger. We also see Hook’s ship again, in a pretty big way.
TVLINE | Is this a finale where lives are left in jeopardy? Or is it more about, “What the hell is Season 3 going to look like?”
I can’t tell you anything on the first [question], but yes, Season 3 could be anything, which is pretty sweet.
TVLINE | With fellow Lost alumni Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz running Once, has there been any one particular moment where you really felt serious déjà vu?
Whenever we see smoke! [Laughs] Or like with the wraith, I’m like, “It’s not the wraith — it’s the Smoke Monster!”
When Once Upon a Time unspools Season 2′s final four episodes starting this Sunday at 8/7c, there is one thing the ABC drama will definitely — and finally — have going for it: momentum.GOING TO EXTREMES | After seeing the show suffer through multiples stops and starts since its winter hiatus (a problem that a lass named Alice might remedy next TV season), Adam Horowitz says that he and fellow series creator Eddy Kitsis look forward to presenting “an uninterrupted string of episodes where we can really tell a story and build to a finish we’re really, really excited for the audience to see.”
Speaking with TVLine from the set in Vancouver, where he and Kitsis were overseeing the filming of the Season 2 finale (airing May 12), Horowitz eagerly anticipated exploring “two extremes” over this final run of episodes: the intimate, and the scope. “The intimate of what our cast can pull off and the emotions they can convey always floors us,” he says. “As does the scope of the storytelling, and the visuals that our crew is able to achieve.”
SAVED BY THE BELLE? | Kicking things off this Sunday is “Lacey,” an episode in which amnesic Belle adopts an alter ego and delves into a not-at-all-provincial life. Explaining the greater purpose of this, the first of the final four hours, Kitsis says, “We understand that Rumple and/or Mr. Gold is a man who has darkness inside him, and all season he’s been searching for the light, for a way to be better now that his son is in town. And we also know there is a prophecy that said Henry would be his ‘undoing’, and he said to the seer, ‘Well, I’ll just kill him.’ But now that it’s his grandson, he’s facing a conundrum, and Belle has always been the person who’s brought out the best in him. What ‘Lacey’ does is watch Rumple struggle with his inner demon.”
WHAT DOES TAMARA BRING? | Speaking of demons, a couple of real devils have recently descended upon Storybrooke: Tamara, who unbeknownst to everyone purposely pursued fiance Neal in the name of finding magic, and her secret cohort/paramour Greg aka Owen, the boy whose father Kurt went MIA after they stumbled upon the freshly materialized Maine burg in 1983.
Tamara and Greg’s mysterious agenda will be made clear over the next two episodes (“That reveal takes off like a rocket,” effuses Horowitz), and as hinted in the last episode, Regina — having deduced Greg’s true identity — “will be front and center in that story,” Kitsis says. “There are not a lot of coincidences here…,” Horowitz says with a smile. “There’s a reason for all of the connections we’ve revealed so far — and some we have yet to reveal.” (And yes, Kurt Flynn’s fate will be divulged by season’s end.)
NO PLACE LIKE HOME… | But maybe as these ne’er-do-wells nose around Storybrooke, Emma, Snow White et al can escape to, say, another realm? After all, “the [magic] beans are growing,” Kitsis reminds, soon offering everyone the option of returning to the Fairytale Land That Is. But would Emma join her ‘rents for the ride…? “The thing with Emma is a year ago she wasn’t a believer, and it took Henry eating an apple turnover and going into a sleep curse and her fighting a dragon to realize it all was true,” Kitsis recounts. “Then she went back to [Fairytale Land] and found it to be burnt and full of ogres. And like anybody, Emma struggles with this. She’s a person who has found that she has magic inside her and isn’t quite comfortable with it yet, so the thought of going back and having that be her life is very frightening.”
‘CROCODILE’ ROCKED | Elsewhere as Season 2 builds to its climax (airing May 12 and titled “And Straight On Till Morning”), Captain Hook — who (reportedly) went MIA soon after stabbing his “Crocodile” in NYC — will resurface “very soon, and under surprising circumstances,” Kitsis teases. The pirate’s past with Neal/Bae will then be detailed in the penultimate episode, “Second Star to the Right.” (“We can’t read every theory out there on the Internet, but this [connection] has so far been kept secret,” Kitsis offers.)
Episode 21 will also let loose with the Rumplestiltskin/Bae “game-changer” that Robert Carlyle alluded to at last month’s PaleyFest panel. “I know what he was hinting at,” Kitsis allows, “and yeah, it’s really big.”
Okay four episodes left so I will let them all record and then do a four hour finale party :) for one of the best shows on tv :)
I wasn't liking this Lacey character but I liked how she said Belle's words, only with a different meaning. If Lacey likes the darkness in Gold, he'll have no reason to be 'good'. This could get really interesting...
The beans have been spilled on ABC’s Once Upon a Time, and this Sunday at 8/7c, Regina — upon gleaning that Snow White, Emma et al have no intention of bringing her along on their trip back to The Enchanted Forest — harvests her own plan to make use of the magical legumes and in doing so, secure a place in son Henry’s life.Lana Parrilla, who is always so, so good at being so, so bad, shared with TVLine not only a peek at her alter ego’s wicked TripTik and the Season 2 finale, but also related a touching story of a TV mother’s love.
TVLINE | I get the feeling that this Sunday, Regina is about to make a very aggressive play.
Yeah, well, it’s no different than all the other Sundays! There’s always something up her sleeve, isn’t there? But this time, Regina is kind of in a desperate situation, so it is slightly different. She senses there is a love that Henry does have for her and because of that, she’s going to fight for that relationship even stronger now. She’s looking for ways to take him away and go elsewhere. Now that she has discovered the magic beans, Regina – in her twisted mind — is conjuring up a plan where she can now use one of these beans to take her and Henry back to The Enchanted Forest.
TVLINE | But just her and Henry, right?
Well, she can’t do it alone — she needs help, and who other than Mr. Captain Hook could be a better partner? So, she’s teaming up with him to try to steal these beans, open a portal and take all three of them back to The Enchanted Forest.
TVLINE | Oh, so she gets a handsome companion as part of the deal. That works out well.
Like I said, some things never change with her.
TVLINE | Last month during our PaleyFest Q&A, you were hankering for more Evil Queen scenes. What can you say about what’s coming up?
Playing Young Regina is always a breath of fresh air, but playing the Evil Queen is just pure fun and excitement for me. There is a lot happening in Fairytale Land [this Sunday], where, once again, Regina is finding ways to kill Snow White — and she‘s quite confused why it’s so difficult. It pretty much takes place right after “The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter,” Season 1, Episode 7. She had sent the Huntsman to kill Snow White, but he comes back with the heart of a stag, not Snow White’s heart, and she doesn’t understand why it’s so difficult to kill this little princess that’s out running around in the forest. So, she meets with the peasants in a village where she knows Snow White is hiding and she offers them a lot of money and gold, opportunities for better lives… and no one budges. No one rats out Snow White. She doesn’t understand why everyone is protecting Snow White and why they don’t love her. She’s the queen, and yet they hate her so much. So, she asks Rumpelstiltskin to disguise her as a villager, and she ends up walking amongst these people and asking about their feelings about the queen. And what she discovers is a very sad thing, how much she is hated. I think that really hurts her. It’s actually a really cool episode; I feel like I got to play a different part, since I’m “in disguise.”
TVLINE | But we see you, while everybody else sees a peasant.
Everyone else sees a peasant… although you do see me looking pretty ratty. I look like a little ragamuffin. My hair couldn’t have been frizzier; my Puerto Rican side of the family is going to kill me. This is pure kink and weird dreadlocks…. like “Rasta Regina.”
TVLINE | How does seeing how she’s viewed by the villagers affect Regina moving forward? Does she say, “You know what? Maybe I should lighten up a bit”? Or is she like, “You ungrateful bastards…”
She’s more like, “You ungrateful bastards.” [Laughs] Let’s face it, she can do no wrong in her eyes. She’s not as self-aware as you at times would like her to be, or as Regina in Storybrooke is. It’s a journey for this woman. That’s what’s so beautiful, and therein lies the contrast between these two worlds as we go back in time. We’re seeing how she becomes more self-aware and learns how to take responsibility for things. Although, again in Storybrooke, she’s making some dangerous decisions in opening this portal and taking Henry away…. There is this “trigger” that she needs to get her hands on, and I guess you could say “pushing the button” would wipe out all of Storybrooke and kill all the inhabitants.
TVLINE | Decisions, decisions!
Yeah. It’s a clock-ticking episode — kind of what happens in every episode!
TVLINE | [Series creators] Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz] said Regina will be front and center in the Tamara and Greg story, too.
Regina has her suspicions with Greg to begin with. She knows who he is, though she doesn’t really know why he’s here. She suspects that it’s about his father, but there has to be an ulterior motive. Regina has her “Spidey senses” — she’s so intuitive — so I think she’s very suspicious of them. She doesn’t trust them and she knows that there is something else going on.
TVLINE | Do you have a favorite moment from Season 2? You and Barbara Hershey sold the hell out of the brief moment when Regina and Cora looked at each other with such love.
Yeah, some of my favorite moments are with Barbara. In that episode where she dies… at one point, Cora and Regina go flying over the counter and the glass breaks and we end up on the floor…. This was Barbra’s last episode and there were a lot of emotions around it, one being that she is extremely loved and we were going to miss her. I adore her and I miss her still very much, and she had the same feelings. [Once] became a home for her, and she knew that she was going to miss everyone. So after the stunt girls throw themselves over the counter and we pick up with me and Barbara lying on the floor, at one moment she just put her hand on my foot, around my ankle, and said, “I really love you, Lana. I really, really love you.”
TVLINE | Oh my gosh….
It was just like…I could tell it came from a place of a “mother” to her “daughter.” I give Barbara credit for that, because it shows how committed she is to her work and her character. I am very much the same; I think she and I share a very similar instrument, we have the same approach to how we work and I felt like I really had a partner there, and I loved that. And then she said, “Look on the floor….” There was a book that was opened and inside it said, This Is for Love. These are signs and symbols that come to us when we’re working that so many overlook or miss because they’re not in the moment or they just don’t work in that way or they’re not in touch in that way. But I always look for these little signs and symbols that I think are very magical. It was a huge validation and a confirmation that we couldn’t have been paired up better. That was honestly one of my favorite, most touching moments this season. Another one was the scene with Mary Margaret — Ginny [Goodwin] and myself at the doorstep when Regina rips her heart out. That scene overall I think is extremely powerful on so many levels. I think it was a moment that everyone had been waiting for, and I loved that Regina chose not to kill her. Then there’s another one coming up which I’m really excited about, in this Sunday’s episode, with Rumpelstiltskin. It’s comedy. Robert [Carlyle] and I have so much fun working together and there’s one scene where it’s just… he looked at me and was like, “I could do this all day!” And I was like, “I could do this forever.” The scene was a ton of fun. I don’t know how it’s going to play out, but I can tell you, in the moment, you had two theatrical actors on a green stage just eating it up, feeling like we were back in the theater again. Those are the moments that we just love. So, those are my three favorite moments.
TVLINE | How would you tease the season finale? What sort of emotions will fans go through in the final moments?
This is always hard… I’m not very good at teasing finales. I think people are going to be very surprised to see the two sides come together and work together for the greater good, light and dark coming together and having to make a decision that is best for everyone included. We’re always separating, it’s always light against dark and dark against light, you know. Good against evil or evil against good. So it’s a very sobering moment in the finale where the audience is going to be very surprised to see some characters have to come together, to work together, to save one another.
It sounds fantastic, I can hardly wait for it! TY, Holli.
I know, I wondered how that was gonna play out. Can't wait to see how they are together as an evil couple. Jackie wrote: "I wasn't liking this Lacey character but I liked how she said Belle's words, only with a different meaning. If Lacey likes the darkness in Gold, he'll have no reason to be 'good'. This could get ..."
Here is some food for thought.....Does Henry have magical abilities? Emma seems to have some.
I would think so, even though we haven't seen evidence of it yet. It took a while for us to see it with Emma. He comes from a magical lineage.
ABC’s Once Upon a Time has now revealed Tamara and Greg’s anti-magic agenda and fried the Charmings’ beans, putting the good guys’ future in jeopardy. Meanwhile, promos for Season 2′s penultimate episode, “Second Star to the Right,” offer a first glimpse at Wendy Darling and Peter Pan. With these elements now in play, series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis held court with reporters to field burning Qs and tease what’s to come.IS A BIG GAP IN NEAL’S BACKSTORY ABOUT TO BE FILLED? | Yes, he’s Rumplestiltskin’s son. But ever since Emma’s ex mentioned having previously met Hook, we’ve known he has other stamps on his magical passport. Cue the promo for next Sunday, in which Wendy Darling tells young Bae about her shadowy friend Peter. “What happens with him, Wendy and the Darling family is the emotional touchstone of these last two hours,” said Kitsis. “Hopefully, it will inform who he is as a character and also [establish] another land, which is, hopefully, not what you think it is.” Meaning, prepare to eventually plot a course for what the show bosses dub “Neverland-adjacent.” (Awww-fully cute fact: Emma reminds Neal of Wendy, Kitsis shared.)
WILL PETER PAN BE AN ACTUAL CHARACTER? | And not just a CGI creation, as in the promo? After all, it was teased at Once‘s PaleyFest panel that although we’re visiting a new realm, a key player would not be cast until Season 3. Such speculation “would probably be a good guess,” Kitsis allowed. That said, Once‘s version “is probably not the lovely, cuddly shadow we remember,” he noted. “We’re doing [Peter Pan and Neverland] completely differently.”
FOR WHOM DO TAMARA AND GREG WORK? | In the next episode/one already circulating sneak peek, Tamara alludes to the “Home Office” — and in the May 12 finale, “You will find out who the Home Office is [and] what they want, but you won’t know why,” Kitsis shared. “Since we [as TV viewers] have all been trained with initiatives and secret organizations, we are hoping to lead you down a different path, one that goes, ‘Ah, OK, it’s not that.’”
WHAT HAPPENED TO GREG’S DAD? | Onetime Storybrooke interloper Kurt Flynn’s fate will be revealed this Sunday, Horowitz promises. Important to remember: Despite whatever story Regina spins in the interim, “No one leaves Storybrooke,” Kitsis reminds.
HOW MANY MAGIC BEANS ARE LEFT? | As the Charmings realized this past Sunday, Regina razed their hidden bean field — but not before snatching a total of three beans for her own purposes.
WHO HOLDS STORYBROOKE’S FATE IN THEIR HANDS? | The gemstone “trigger” that Regina retrieved from Maleficent’s Storybrooke lair “is an erase button that returns Storybrooke to what it once was” — meaning nothing, with any inhabitants thusly snuffed, Kitsis reiterated. “Unfortunately for Regina, she’s now strapped to a table and the two people who have it” — Tamara and Greg — “seem to be hellbent on getting rid of this town.”
SPEAKING OF WHICH: IS SOMEONE GONNA DIE? | It sure sounds like it — and “perhaps” in this week’s episode, Kitsis teased.
WILL BELLE EVER TOLL AGAIN? | The producers promised more on the Rumple/Belle/Lacey front before season’s end — including Lacey’s possibly surprising perspective on the prophecy about Henry, were she to get wind of it! — and also hinted it will take something brand-new, and not True Love’s Kiss, to bring Belle back. If, that is, Rumple still pines for the princess. “He seems to be enjoying Lacey because she lets him be who he really wants to be. And his son is who he wants to better for,” Kitsis noted. “So the question is, which one of those will win at the end? That would be the internal showdown for Mr. Gold.”
UM, HOW DO YOU ELECTROCUTE A WOODEN MAN…? | Amidst much talk of Tamara’s evil deeds, Kitsis and Horowitz offered a mea culpa about the Taser-like device she used to fell The Dragon and August/Pinocchio, saying that if they could change any one thing about Season 2, it’d be their choice of gizmo. “When we sat down to do this, we thought, ‘We need a real-world weapon,’” Kitsis explained. “And in the moment of making that decision, we never realized the backlash that would [come]…. We just figured the audience would assume, ‘Oh, it’s not a [regular] Taser.’ But they did not.” Added Horowitz, “The simplest way to think about it is [August] wasn’t electrocuted; the device did something else to him.” Kitsis hinted at further clarity on the weird “science” once the Home Office is revealed.
I wondered this too. He is awfully persuasive, and observant. Maybe we have seen a few of his gifts but haven't recognized them. Roxy wrote: "Here is some food for thought.....Does Henry have magical abilities? Emma seems to have some."
Well, if you think about it, none of his lineage has specific powers. they're not witches or anything, they're just people that were put in a situation and rose to the occasion and did good. And Henry has definitely done that already.
Question: I have a Q about Once Upon a Time and its potential spin-off: If we decide not to watch the spin-off, will we still understand everything that’s going on in Once Upon a Time? Or are the two shows completely connected? Thanks! —EmilyAusiello: Worry not. Should the Wonderland-based limited-run offshoot get the green light from ABC on May 14 — and even though Barbara Hershey’s Cora and even Lana Parrilla’s Regina could appear in flashbacks — “It is intended to exist as its own thing,” says Once cocreator Eddy Kitsis. Adds Adam Horowitz, “If you’ve never seen Once, you can actually watch Wonderland and not worry.”
This Sunday on Once Upon a Time (ABC, 8/7c), Emma’s determination to get the goods on bad Tamara will tee up a much-need talk between her and Neal, the father of her son Henry and the great love she lost under, well, extraordinary circumstances. Michael Raymond-James spoke with TVLine about Season 2′s penultimate hour, which will feature hearts on sleeves and change the course of at least one part of Neal’s life.TVLINE | Emma has been trying to convince Neal that Tamara is bad news. What new evidence might she trot out this week?
You know Emma, man. She gets on a case and she goes after it pretty fiercely. She definitely feels that Tamara has got some evil intentions, and she is going to try to convince me that she may have had something to do with Regina being kidnapped.
TVLINE | Whether he was protecting Emma’s destiny or not, do you think that Neal still harbors some guilt about what happened all those years ago?
I am glad you asked that. Yes. I think he does, but Neal feels that he really didn’t have a choice in the matter. It was a matter of her fulfilling her destiny and for the greater good. I mean, we’re talking about her saving a town full of people that I grew up with, people from Fairytale Land, so these aren’t total strangers where I can be like, “Screw them. This is about me and my love.” So, in Neal’s mind he was sort of jumping on the grenade for the greater good. But of course there’s guilt. Of course there’s pain for having inflicted pain on someone you care about. I don’t know how you get beyond that.
TVLINE | [Series creators] Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz] told us that in addition to whatever Emma might still feel for Neal, Neal probably still feels something for Emma. Is he going to start to cop to that?
You’re going to see some of that this week, a broaching of that subject is definitely going to come. We’re beginning to scratch the surface on that and at least acknowledge some of the unfinished business that’s been hanging over our heads since we first saw each other again.
TVLINE | ‘Cause I am just telling you, man — if it was me? I’d carry a torch for Jennifer Morrison for some time.
[Laughs] She is the best. One of the great things about this show is the cast. Morrison and I have become really, really great buddies, so it’s so much fun going to work. If I’m having a bad day, she knows how to make that better and vice versa. We sort of developed a shorthand between each other as people in terms of getting through the days together. I couldn’t have asked for a better situation to fall into.
TVLINE | We saw Tamara eavesdropping when Neal and August reconnected in New York City, but are we ever going to connect any dots on why exactly she decided to latch on to you?
That’s a good question. The thing with this show, aside from it being an incredibly difficult to talk about, is that we, audience members and actors alike, need to be able to trust that the future will further define the meaning of the present. There are times that you just have to go with it and you know that the people in charge of the show are smart people and they’re aware of where they’re leaving things, and it’s all by design. Further on down the road we’ll have more explanation, so when you go back and look at it again, it will tie together.
TVLINE | Let’s talk about the blanks we know will be filled in this week. What can you say about the flashbacks for Young Bae, hanging with Wendy Darling in Victorian London?
I can say that you want to stay tuned for them because it’s going to be awesome.
TVLINE | We’ll find out how it is that he knew Hook previously?
That could be something we find out, yeah….
TVLINE | There’s a “really big” twist coming up this week involving Rumple and Neal. What can you say about it? Is it going to be an emotional gut-punch?
At PaleyFest, Bobby [Carlyle] called it a “game-changer,” and I think that this will certainly change the course of the path that they had previously entered on.
TVLINE | Is it more shocking, or more sad? Or a bit of both?
Bob Dylan had a great quote one time about people asking, “Do you think any of these kids who come to your shows and listen to the words you’re saying have any idea what your actual message is?” He said, “Listen, man, I just go out there and sing, I don’t try to get anybody to listen.” I think that however people receive [the twist], whether it’s shocking or a gut-punch, is up to them. We just go out there and try to tell a story as best we can.
TVLINE | Going from something so grounded, real and gritty as Terriers to this, was that sort of by design, or do you just go where the work is?
I always choose jobs based on material, and when I first met with Adam and Eddy and they discussed what this show was and what they wanted to do with the character, their enthusiasm is incredibly infectious. It is sort of a departure for me — even from fantasy shows that I have done before, like True Blood, which is much darker –but I was so interested in the stories that they were telling that I wanted to jump on board. I try to stay grounded whether I’m talking about stealing somebody’s wallet in Terriers or if I’m talking about magic in Storybrooke!
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