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message 51: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments it is pretty good.


message 52: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Hi I am Chenxi, I came to U. S. from China last year and I'm currently a graduate student at Cornell. I like reading all kinds of stuff, including SF/Fantasy.


message 53: by [deleted user] (new)

Awesome! What's better? US or China? Welcome to the group!


message 54: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Xdyj wrote: "Hi I am Chenxi, I came to U. S. from China last year and I'm currently a graduate student at Cornell. I like reading all kinds of stuff, including SF/Fantasy."

Welcome Xdyj (Welcome to the US too)! I hope you enjoy our sci-fi fantasy book discussions with us! We are currently reading the Tripod trilogy if you want to read that. We also have a May Book Nominations topic. You can nominate a book and we make a poll of all the nominations and vote for a book of the month.


message 55: by Jdaniels (new)

Jdaniels | 27 comments Greetings!!

I'm a big fan of fantasy adventures stories and some science fiction! Although my primary love is fairy tales and their retellings, I read a little bit of anything. Probably one of the only genres I don't read is horror - I have too active an imagination for that! (gives me nightmares for weeks, lol!)

Anyway, I've never been part of a book club before ... but would love to talk to others about what books they read and like, as well as possibly finding more authors for me to read!


message 56: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Hello Jdaniels! We do look for big fans of fantasy adventures. We're reading a great sci-fi trilogy right now if you want to read that. It's short, easy, and very intense. It's more toward the children/YA books but it's amazing.

I have to add that I don't like horror either because it gives me nightmares for weeks. This is a good book club for those who haven't been in one before. This group is only about a month old and has about 13-20 people (can't really remember). This is the first group I created. The second is a Charles Dickens group. Have fun and enjoy the group!


message 57: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Omi wrote: "Awesome! What's better? US or China? Welcome to the group!"

Thanks Omi, Connor. It's hard to compare since I haven't been to a lot of places in U.S or China. p.s. English is not my first language so if possible please tell me if I make any mistakes. Thanks again.


message 58: by [deleted user] (new)

OK. Thanks for joining!!!


message 59: by Jdaniels (new)

Jdaniels | 27 comments Connor wrote: "Hello Jdaniels! We do look for big fans of fantasy adventures. We're reading a great sci-fi trilogy right now if you want to read that. It's short, easy, and very intense. It's more toward the chil..."

Thanks! I actually read the trilogy years ago. I was doing some research, and the local library has the first two books in the series I can get, but there isn't a copy of the third anywhere in the state! I'm trying to decide if I can spend the money to get the third ...


message 60: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments I would so do it! I'm thinking of buying brand new copies off Amazon. Our library had three copies of The Pool of Fire but now they don't have any books there! I got them for free at the library because they were worn and nobody checked them out anymore. :(


message 61: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Xdyj wrote: "Omi wrote: "Awesome! What's better? US or China? Welcome to the group!"

Thanks Omi, Connor. It's hard to compare since I haven't been to a lot of places in U.S or China. p.s. English is not my f..."


Will do.


message 62: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Kathryn Hello everybody and welcome to the group!


message 63: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Is it appropriate for me to add some of you as friends? I'm just a bit curious about what kind of books people in this group read. I'm new to Goodreads and I'm not quite sure about how it works. Thanks.


message 64: by [deleted user] (new)

Sure.


message 65: by [deleted user] (new)

My,my,my.
The group has prospered in my absence.


message 66: by [deleted user] (new)

It has! I think your absence has something to do with it... JKJKJK!!!


message 67: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Xdyj wrote: "Is it appropriate for me to add some of you as friends? I'm just a bit curious about what kind of books people in this group read. I'm new to Goodreads and I'm not quite sure about how it works. Th..."

Of course! I like new friends!


message 68: by Jdaniels (new)

Jdaniels | 27 comments That's fine with me! Welcome to the group!


message 69: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments You are AWESOME!!! Even if you've been gone forever. :)


message 70: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Kathryn Haha thx! I'll try not to be gone for that long again. :)


message 71: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments No! It's! NOT!!!!!

The nicknames I go by are Yellow Kid and... I can't remember.


message 72: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Welcome to the group!


message 73: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Liam wrote: "Hi all,

My name's Liam, a 28 year old half English bloke from the Netherlands. I love everything to do with fantasy and Sci-fi books. Favorites of mine include; the Wheel of Time saga, the Sword..."


Hi Liam! Welcome to the group! I think you will enjoy this group then. I plan on reading some of those too so we may read them in this group. Be active and have fun! :)


message 74: by Meisa (new)

Meisa | 1 comments hi everyone, im meisa :) LOTR is surely the best novel i've ever read.i love it!! and i still couldnt find any books that better than it.i love it!! xD very nice to meet u n im looking forward for ur guide ;)


message 75: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Hi Meisa! I agree with everything you said about LOTR! :D


message 76: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Hi Meisa, welcome to this group!


message 77: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Kathryn Hi Meisa, and welcome!


message 78: by [deleted user] (new)

Hello Meisa.
(How do you pronounce it. I think I'm saying it wrong by saying "mice-a")


message 79: by [deleted user] (new)

An introduction huh? I'm an ancient of days proud Dad to 2 young men mid western South Carolina redneck and proud of it. I started with The Chronicles of Narnia, The Lord of the Rings and the first 4 Tarzan novels when I was 11... graduated to Heinlein and Star Trek; The Witch World and the Deryni series... and stick mostly to David Weber and John Ringo type writers these days.


message 80: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Lol. Hi Phil! welcome to the group!

I've only read the first Tarzan book.


message 81: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Kathryn Tarzan is a book?


message 82: by Xdyj (new)

Xdyj | 418 comments Hi Phil! Welcome to this group!

I've also read a few military sf, though haven't tried either David Weber or John Ringo yet.


message 83: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments TigerLily wrote: "Tarzan is a book?"

Uh, yeah....... Tarzan of the Apes. It's nothing like the cartoon. He is a viscous man that eats people. It's cool!


message 84: by [deleted user] (new)

Xdyj wrote: "Hi Phil! Welcome to this group!

I've also read a few military sf, though haven't tried either David Weber or John Ringo yet."


I was reading some Dudley Pope and Alexander Kent naval fiction and someone I worked with recommended Weber... the fact that he lives in Greenville SC was nice. I was living in Anderson at the time. I liked Weber and found Ringo and others through Baen Books and the Anderson library system.


message 85: by [deleted user] (new)

TigerLily wrote: "Tarzan is a book?"

Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote 24 Tarzan novels and yes I've read 'em all and more than once...
Parts of the Disney cartoon and the movie 'Greystoke' do a decent job of interpreting the novels
The Weismeuller movies and what not are junk.
The original novel came out in 1912. I'd disagree with Mr Connor... Tarzan is not a cannibal but does eat his meat raw after killing it. Tarzan can be violent when he has to be but I never thought of him as viscious.
He is an old fashioned politically incorrect Victorian era style hero, faithful to his wife and has no trouble killing the bad guys be they human or mangani...


message 86: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Oh. I haven't read it for a few years, so I don't remember anything. I do remember him eating someone in a tribe though, and wondering if it was normal for humans to eat humans.


message 87: by [deleted user] (new)

Connor wrote: "Oh. I haven't read it for a few years, so I don't remember anything. I do remember him eating someone in a tribe though, and wondering if it was normal for humans to eat humans."

No worries... the tribe would have been either the mangani ( apes ) Tarzan grew up with and they would eat outsiders or the Wazari, the African tribe he became chief of but I don't recall them being cannibals. But it's been a few years since I read 'em so my recollections may be off.


message 88: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments I should read it again. I read it in sixth grade...


message 89: by [deleted user] (new)

Connor wrote: "I should read it again. I read it in sixth grade..."

Well if you to choose not to there is the Disney version... with singing, dancing and tree surfing... hehhehheh...


message 90: by [deleted user] (new)

Connor wrote: "TigerLily wrote: "Tarzan is a book?"

Uh, yeah....... Tarzan of the Apes. It's nothing like the cartoon. He is a viscous man that eats people. It's cool!"


stop saying viscous! Tarzan is not a Jell-o like substance. think you mean vicious.


message 91: by Nicole (new)

Nicole Kathryn Okay, thanks for clearing that up Connor and Phil! Maybe sometime I'll have to read them, if I get the chance. They sound interesting, and way different than the Disney version. But then again, a lot of stories aren't like the way Disney portrays them... :)


message 92: by [deleted user] (last edited May 27, 2011 06:01PM) (new)

I like the Disney tarzan image better in my head. I don't need cannibals running around in there. I might get sick :).


message 93: by [deleted user] (new)

Pijapardtollacorngasus The Valkyrie wrote: "I like the Disney tarzan image better in my head. I don't need cannibals running around in there. I might get sick :)."

hehhehheh... Well how 'bout if the cannibals were singing and dancing and tree surfing?


message 94: by [deleted user] (new)

:)


message 95: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Lol.


message 96: by [deleted user] (new)

Howdy. My name is Craig and I like the idea of heroic fantasy fiction because seemingly in this day and age heroism is not allowed in literature or cinema. Heroes are no longer brave and self-sacrficing, they're conflicted, neurotic, and their acts of bravery stem from some kind of compulsive guilt or self-loathing. I miss the old schools of thought that recognized bravery and heroism in protagonists. Craig.


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Craig wrote: "Howdy. My name is Craig and I like the idea of heroic fantasy fiction because seemingly in this day and age heroism is not allowed in literature or cinema. Heroes are no longer brave and self-sacr..."

Hey Craig. I agree with you. Even the established heroes like Superman are being treated that way by the newer mythologists.


message 98: by [deleted user] (new)

I agree.


message 99: by Connor (new)

Connor Kinkade (connork) | 1324 comments Craig wrote: "Howdy. My name is Craig and I like the idea of heroic fantasy fiction because seemingly in this day and age heroism is not allowed in literature or cinema. Heroes are no longer brave and self-sacr..."

Hi Craig! I agree with you too. I haven't really thought of it that way. Thank you. :)


message 100: by [deleted user] (new)

Connor wrote: "Craig wrote: "Howdy. My name is Craig and I like the idea of heroic fantasy fiction because seemingly in this day and age heroism is not allowed in literature or cinema. Heroes are no longer brave..."

Hello Connor and thank you for the reply. The historian Barbara Tuchmann made a reference to the "anti-excellence school." I think a lot of it comes from feeling threatened by the superiority, real or imagined, of others. The need to supress the achievement of others because those achievements threatens us, because they over-shadow the rest of us. The fallacies of this kind of thought are obvious when we stop to think about it. Sure, we all want to be better, and feel discouraged and lose confidence when we're outdone by those of higher abilities (I'm NOT claiming to be a person of any outstanding qualities by the way...). But such people who strive for and achieve excellence should inspire us and those who feel threatened by such achievers are the Iagos of the world, sowing negativity and denigrating their achievents so their own lack of excellence is not held up in comparison. Part of that line of thought was nicely illustrated in Ray Bradbury's Farenheit 451 where reading becomes illegal originally because some groups didn't like what was said about them in books. Anyway, thank God (however you percieve such a Being) for heroes. We need more of them. Craig.


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