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Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Just a question: how is asking for a birth certificate racist?I, personally, believe Obama was born in the U.S., but what makes it racist to question someone's birth place? It's not because he..."
I agree entirely. This whole "racism" thing just pisses me off to no end.
~ ♪She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named [Yue]~ wrote: "Okay, if it's actually theory 3, the world is incredibly corrupted and I need to move to Mars."I'm with you. Maybe the internet would turn into a physical place and we could all live there, free of Trump. :)
Jayda wrote: "Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Just a question: how is asking for a birth certificate racist?I, personally, believe Obama was born in the U.S., but what makes it racist to question someone's birth ..."
*agrees*
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Unless every government official had sex with every abortion-candidate woman in America, I believ..."
*nod nod*
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Rebekka (hmm, yes) wrote: "Babies can REALLY ruin lives when they aren't wanted.Imagine... if you had a kid right now. I mean, for me, all my dreams would be crushed. A prison sentence, almost. Tied down like that.
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Abortion sort of depends on a scenario. If if was your choice to get pregnant, and now you can't cope, then, well, you shouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place.
If you were raped or didn't know that you were pregnant, then I understand.
But one thing that really bothers me is SELECTIVE ABORTION. In India, people favour boys. They realize they're going to have a girl, they abort the child. Then they do it again and again until they have a boy. Even if they HAVE their girl, then many girls are neglected or killed, or if they are allowed to live, then they are abused and suffer discrimination.
I'm not saying every family is like this. There are plenty of girls in my family. My own fully indian parents had two girls with no problem at all. I love my sister =)
But there IS discrimination in my family. Apparently my grandparents were disappointed when they learned that I was going to have a sister and not a brother.
Okay, I will stop ranting now. But this still really bothers me. =(
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Imagine... if you had a kid right now. I mean, for me, all my dreams would be crushed. A prison sentence, almost...."
Wow, that's horrible! :( I agree, it does depend on the situation. Selective abortion is awful––of course, all abortion is awful and I don't think I'd ever choose it for myself. But I also understand when a woman can't take care of a child or go through a pregnancy at all. It's a personal matter, so it's tough to say. But I don't think it's the government's decision, ultimately.
Yes, the government shouldn't interfere. I agree, it should be completely the woman's choice. And the man...I don't know. Depends what she did to get pregnant. Aaah there are so many variables here.
♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Picture wrote: "I'm kind of late here like really late. But I want to add in my thoughts to the issue of abortion.Unless every government official had sex with every abortion-candidate woman in ..."
I'm not allowed to nod in my house anymore. My mom thinks that nodding is just for cows and chickens, and I should use my voice. And then I replied, "What if I was abducted by strange ninjas from an alien world, and they tied me up and ducted taped me? How will I communicate then?"
Lol. I didn't actually say that, but I wish I did. It's weird though. Sometimes I nod when I'm talking on the phone. Then, I end up laughing. So it's all awkward with me over the phone.
Wait, did I seriously get into a conversation about "nodding?" Oh dear, I've something terribly wrong with me. Well, everyone does...
I was going to add, "Be warned," in the beginning of the message, but I decided to lose it because even a warning can't prepare you for me. Whoa...that sounded ironically dirty even though I'm the biggest neat freak when it comes to other people's houses. I can just hope one of you guys get my sense of humor. I just was reading The Princess Bride. The satire is fabulous in that book. I'm merely mimicking it.
"Be Warned"
Too late.
PS: I do realize that this has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion.
Haha that's....interesting. My parents get mad when I nod too, but I do it anyway.
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Wait, I get it now. It's because I *nodded* to what you said. Bahaha.
I completely rely on nodding....
♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "No idea what this has to do with anything but yeahhh ... Strange. My parents don't have any problem with me nodding. :DWait, I get it now. It's because I *nodded* to what you said. Bahaha."
I started writing the message, and halfway through, I realized that I wasn't even mentioning abortion in there. But I sent it anyway. Forget about that now. Let's continue about debating.
I don't anyone started talking about Lindsay Lohan yet. Will you guys watch Lindsay Lohan still if she ever comes back on TV? I loved her when I was little, but now she's this emotionally unstable freak. Dear god, so many people want to help you, Lindsay. But what do you do? Oh joy, let's steal a necklace and lie about it afterward. Celebrities. *rolls eyes*
I never watched her in the first place.....
You must have never seen Parent Trap now did you...
No I haven't seen it.
*gasp!* how could you now have seen parent trap? that was one of my favorite movies when i was younger. and i still love it now....
Zoe wrote: "*gasp!* how could you now have seen parent trap? that was one of my favorite movies when i was younger. and i still love it now...."I liked that movie too...but it's been so long since I've watched it. :P
What happens in it?
So... I'm glad that they finally got Osama bin Laden and that he's out of the terrorist arena... But is anyone else disturbed at how much everyone is CELEBRATING over someone's death?! I mean, yeah, it's nice to have the guy behind 9/11 dead. We don't have to worry about him now. But, should we really be celebrating the death of anyone, no matter who it is? Where is humanity when we rejoice over the death of someone? Sorry, it just bothers me. Don't get me wrong, I'm as patriotic as the next person. I LOVE America. I LOVE our military and I'm so grateful for all they do to protect my rights and my country. But rejoicing over the death of someone is just a little... disturbing to me... Not only that, but does everyone really think that the war in the Middle East is over? Cause it's not...As someone once said, "Be careful my friends how you respond to the murder of a human being no matter how evil. Do not lose your humanity. One can be grateful for the removing of an evil with out rejoicing over the method in which it was done."
I hope this makes sense... I just needed to vent a little, and see what other people's opinions are.
My math teacher compared it to the death of the Wicked Witch of the West and asked the same question about whether it's really appropriate to celebrate someone's death. Personally I had a reaction closer to, "Wait, really? Huh. That's... huh." Because people had been looking for him for SO LONG, and it seemed really really weird that all of a sudden the search was over.
I think a lot of people had that same kind of reaction - surprise - mixed with joy that somebody who had killed so many people was dead, and those two combined created celebration.
I think you and I, growing up in Arizona and Utah respectively, are probably a lot more distant from 9/11 than the people who took to the streets to celebrate in Boston and New York. See, what you have to remember is that the planes left an airport in Boston and hit buildings in New York. The people in those cities very very likely knew directly or even was related to somebody who died in 9/11.
Anyway, that was just my reaction to both the things that got a little more long-winded than I had previously intended. Heh.
Jayda wrote: "So... I'm glad that they finally got Osama bin Laden and that he's out of the terrorist arena... But is anyone else disturbed at how much everyone is CELEBRATING over someone's death?! I mean, yeah..."Yeah, I'm not sure what to think about that...
Acacia wrote: "My math teacher compared it to the death of the Wicked Witch of the West and asked the same question about whether it's really appropriate to celebrate someone's death. Personally I had a reactio..."
Ooooh. Good... explanation.
Hmmm...so my reaction was a bit weird. First, I thought it was funny because I just couldn't believe it. Next, I was truly happy for some reason. I had a smile on my face in the morning which looking back, was kind of creepy. Anyway, later on in the day, I just felt "ehh" about everyone talking about how it was so great. My band teacher said, "The head of the cobra has finally been chopped off." Then, he started crying for some absurd reason because he had memories about 9/11 and how he was so proud to be an American. He even had us play patriotic songs for the day. Talk about weird. What a Pisces! (emotional) I think some people's reactions were a bit too dramatic like the war on terror was finally over. Well, it isn't buckos. It's just getting even more into it. Now, there will be retaliation most definitely by some of Osama's followers.
My take on the situation is that we're past "an eye for an eye." I wish Osama at least got a fair trial like Mussein (not sure on spelling) did. There are no such thing as bad people in this world. There are only bad choices that influence a person's personality. So I feel like he should have least got a fair trial. Anyway, I don't think it's right to celebrate his death. I think it's okay to celebrate the road to recovery for the 9/11 victims and families. But really? We're not a sadistic nation here. We accomplished a mission (very hastily in my opinion), and now it's done. I seriously think that we should just get with our lives. The world is not all of a sudden perfect because one "bad" person is dead.
What's startling to me is that the way we reacted was over the top. I don't want to teach future generations to react like this when the death occurs of people who've made bad choices.
I realize I'm rambling really. But I guess I have a lot of things to vent as well. Sorry for the length. What can I say? I'm a writer who spends time writing more for purposes other than her stories.
I wish Bin Laden's death sparks a change in U.S. foreign policy. Not likely...
My reasoning for being disturbed behind everyone's rejoicing in his death is because it reminds me a little too much of when the Iraqi people rejoiced when they succeeded at 9/11... It just isn't right to rejoice in the death of a human being, no matter how evil it is. Yes, evil has somewhat been taken out of the world because of this. But that doesn't mean that the war is over, nor does it mean that we should forget our own humanity and rejoice in the death of someone.I don't know. Like I said, I'm glad that the threat of bin Laden is gone. But I refuse to rejoice over the death of someone and dance in the streets, you know?
People are dancing in the streets? Or is that just an example...? Because that is disturbing...
Acacia wrote: "My math teacher compared it to the death of the Wicked Witch of the West and asked the same question about whether it's really appropriate to celebrate someone's death. Personally I had a reactio..."
This is true. It's not wrong to be glad/relieved that someone as evil as bin Laden is dead. But rejoicing over it? Yes, violence is sometimes a necessary road to stop more violence (such as terrorism) but still... I don't know. I have such mixed feelings. I'm glad that the 9/11 victims can have some peace now, and I'm very patriotic. I understand those in New York gathering at Ground Zero because of this. But the rest of the country? Dancing in the streets and rejoicing? It just seems a little less than human, if you get what I mean.
~ ♪She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named [Yue]~ wrote: "Well, there's probably going to be vengeance. I would expect a terrorist attack.Oh look. I'm not morbid at all.>.>
But no, seriously, there's probably going to be Bin Laden's followers that woul..."
YUEEEE!
....Hi. xD
Possibly...*shrugs*
Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long time to get over everything. America likes to hold grudges.
Note: I was just quoting what some vets said in this one WW2 video I watched. I have nothing against the Japanese.
~ ♪She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named [Yue]~ wrote: "WOMANCERRRRRR!HI.xD"
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Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long time to get over everything. America likes to hold grudges."Inconceivable! *Princess Bride moment*
Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long time to get over everything. America likes to hold grudges."I think it's not necessarily America that likes to hold grudges, but people all around the world. I know of Japanese people who still hate Americans, and vice versa. It isn't America. It's the human race.
Jayda wrote: "Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long time to get over everything. America li..."*agreed*
Oh yes, I didn't imply that it was JUST America that holds grudges. (Sorry that was in Caps. Still don't know how to do italics). True, we can be very stubborn as a human race. All in all. Today will make history.
Mandy [i've gone identity mad] wrote: "Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long time to get over everything. America li..."I had that in mind when I wrote the world. Read the book!!!! I just finished it last night. Amazing!!! The movie though does pretty much follow the book at least the abridged version of the book by William Goldman. You just got to read the book! :) Okay, 'nuff said of that.
Italics is like this:<.i.> words here <./.i.>
Except without the periods.
Picture wrote: "Mandy [i've gone identity mad] wrote: "Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll take such a long..."I have read that book. =) Loooove it!
I'm still not going to be able to remember that. Oh, the heck with it.
If you wanna learn to do italics hit the (some html is ok) button above the comment box.Also, I'm not sure if today really will make history in the long run. It depends on what this changes. Otherwise, in fifty years, it just might become one more sentence in a textbook. Or it might have its own chapter. Living in the present, and in a time period where so much emphasis is put on the present, it's easy to forget that not everything will be important. It's only been half a day; nobody knows yet.
Acacia wrote: "If you wanna learn to do italics hit the (some html is ok) button above the comment box.Also, I'm not sure if today really will make history in the long run. It depends on what this changes. Othe..."
I beg to differ. Everything, in the news, makes history. Just some more than others. With internet, that's just how it works. I don't know about history books. That's a bit different.
I got italics!!!! :)
Mandy [i've gone identity mad] wrote: "Picture wrote: "Mandy [i've gone identity mad] wrote: "Picture wrote: "Ha. It would be in-con-ceiv-able if that did happen. Those damn Japs. Some old U.S vets are still not okay with them. It'll..."Okay, you're amazing for actually reading the book. :) I feel a bit weird now because I just finished it yesterday. But still, I have read it. My favorite character has to be Fezzik because he just seems sos sweet. And his past is really sad.
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But mannnn. This is Obama's week. Dudes, first he releases his birth certificate, is a freaking beast in this speech, and now he kills this man everyone hates. It makes me happy. I really hope people will start liking him more.
Juliet wrote: "So, my reaction to Bin Ladden's http://www.writingphrases.com/death? Yeah, I'm not like, upset about it. But I'm not screaming and cheering about it. I just really can't get excited about someone's death. I've tried... I just c..."Totally. Obama's week right here. His speech was downright hilarious even though Seth Meyers was funnier.
"You can always tell how much danger Anderson Cooper is in by how tight his clothing is," the "Saturday Night Live" star said. "If he's in a bulky, yellow slicker, then it's a hurricane that's still off shore. If he's in a khaki vest, he's maybe in the Green Zone in Baghdad. But if he's in a child-size white t-shirt, bullets are flying, he's getting punched, he's pulling kittens out of the rubble. So what I'm saying is, if you ever see Anderson Cooper with his shirt off, turn off your television and run."
I don't like Osama Bin Laden dying. Pity. Although he did it violently, he exposed one point: "Americans" are not saints. Not even close.
Josephine wrote: "I don't like Osama Bin Laden dying. Pity. Although he did it violently, he exposed one point: "Americans" are not saints. Not even close."What was your stance on bin Laden and his terrorism? I'm kinda curious now...
I agree—rejoicing/celebrating someone’s death isn’t really appropriate. It’s kind of morbid in a way, because, in spite of their heinous crimes, they were still a human being. I don’t have a problem with the fact that Bin Laden was killed. From what I’ve heard, it would’ve been very unlikely that they would have caught him had they not shot. It’s kind of like a common criminal and your typical donut-lovin’ cop. When the officer is under the belief that the criminal will hurt someone if they are not shot, then they are allowed to shoot and that was pretty much the case with Bin Laden’s death. Despite his crimes, however, I don’t believe that his death should be celebrated. I don’t leave in New York and I didn’t lose anyone in 9/11, but I still think there’s a line between being grateful that whoever is responsible for the deaths of so many is caught and just being ... morbid/disturbing/inhumane.This could mean something very bad for the United States, however. Al-Qaeda will be desperate to find someone to lead them now that they’re suddenly without someone to unify them in their cause and when a new leader comes along they will be desperate enough to follow anything they say. The new leader will be an extremely strong centrifugal (unifying) force for Al-Qaeda and make them come back as strong as ever.
Plus, they’re probably pretty angry right now and getting down to some intense attack-planning.
Josephine wrote: "I don't like Osama Bin Laden dying. Pity. Although he did it violently, he exposed one point: "Americans" are not saints. Not even close."I don't think anybody was claiming that any race/group of people were saints. I'm also confused as to why you put quotation marks around Americans.
I also...don't know what to think about the possibility of a retaliatory attack. For one, yeah, it's always possible, and I can imagine there's a lot of angry people around who want to prove a point. For another, I tend to be one of those people who is like 'You guys, seriously, there is no need to get so worried, nothing is going to happen', and 99 times out of 100, nothing does.
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Or he's just totally disillusioned and actually believes he'd be able to be president. In which case, OH LAWDY DONALD, YOU GONE FULL ON STUPID.