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[Mandy]

I don't know if we've had a discussion on this or not, but as far as I figure, there are two main arguments on how the world and people were created: God vs. The Big Bang/Theory of Evolution.

What is more reasonable? What makes more sense? What do you agree with? What do you know about it?

Your thoughts?

[[deleted user]]

I believe in God, because I just fail to understand how a "big bang" created every single blade of grass, every mountain, every speck of dust, every cloud, every river... You get what I mean.

[Mandy]

Agreed. ^^

Scientists are always coming up with new "evidences" of Evolution that the world evolved from some sort of chance combinations of chemicals that made a living cell--that over time grew to animals, and then to humans.

Does that sound plausible and reasonable? Not to me.

[Annemarie, hi]

Well. I just have to say that a all power God erupting from the heavens isn't exactly the most logical thing in the world either.

[Baxter, butts butts butts]

Well we HAVE been genetically proven to be 99.9% similar just pretty much everything else on the earth ever. The thing with science and evolution is that, obviously, it is very complex. A basic overview is easy to bring about disagreements, but a full detailed explanation wouldn't make any sense to anybody.

Yeah, I subscribe to the whole evolution thing.

[[deleted user]]

I think they're both difficult to believe, but I've had enough experiences in life that all but prove to me personally that there is a God. That's a personal thing, and I do believe that people have the right to choose what to believe about Earth's origins. I think there are logical and illogical aspects to any beliefs. Sorry if I came across as disrespectful in my comment earlier.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

I wouldn't say either is "more reasonable" or "makes more sense", considering none of us were there to see what happened or didn't happen. I don't really know what my beliefs are––agnostic, I suppose. I do believe evolution happens, but I think there could be a higher being of some sort who makes it happen. If that makes sense.

[Annemarie, hi]

Maxy wrote: "I think they're both difficult to believe, but I've had enough experiences in life that all but prove to me personally that there is a God. That's a personal thing, and I do believe that people hav..."

Oh, Maxy hahahaha. You're the last person that I would call disrespectful.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Nah, that didn't come off as disrespectful Maxy. Any idea of how everything on earth came to be is, well, mind-blowing. :P

[Mandy]

Juliet wrote: "Well. I just have to say that a all power God erupting from the heavens isn't exactly the most logical thing in the world either."

But many things all around us convince us that Creation is a far better explanation with more evidences, then the evidences behind Evolution.

Some reasons and evidences for the Earth and Man being created by a Creator are nature and creatures. In itself, nature is a fantastic thing. Think about it. In creatures, there is life. Living systems and creatures have elements that are far too complicated to have happened by chance. They had to have been designed by intelligence! Let me think of an specific animal...um, the woodpecker will do. (I've had to research some stuff to back my argument, so forgive me if this comes really late.) The woodpecker is a common bird that you may have seen. If you look closely, you may notice that there are many systems found only in the woodpecker that make him an unusual bird. The feet are unlike most other birds. They have two toes pointing backward and two forward, to hook into the trunk of the tree. Their tail feathers are short and stiff so they can prop themselves up against the tree. And behind it's pointed bill is a pad of spongy like tissue that acts kinda like a shock absorber. Because of this spongy tissue, woodpeckers can peck and pound through hard wood for hours a day! Each feature and systems of all creatures in nature fit together to enable the creature to live their specialized life in their environments. The Theory of Evolution would require each of these special systems to have just happened and have developed by chance, and at the same time! How much more reasonable is it to see in the woodpecker's special design to live, the intelligent mind of God, who created him.

I know that was long, but I was trying to make it so we could apply it to something that would make sense.

[Mandy]

Yeah, I don't want to sound disrespectful either or mean. And excuse any grammar mistakes I might make. I'll probably be typing a lot. =P

[Annemarie, hi]

Mandy [i can't go on i will go on] wrote: "Juliet wrote: "Well. I just have to say that a all power God erupting from the heavens isn't exactly the most logical thing in the world either."

But many things all around us convince us that Cre..."

I'm pretty sure evolution could do all that. You have a cell... and over billions of years it evolved into everything.

Yes, maybe there is some sort of higher power. I don't really know that much about the big bang theory so I can't say for sure whether I believe it. So, I suppose it would be nice for there to be something bigger than us, but not really God in the traditional sense. Just... a power.

[Maria [the clockwork creeps on useless lives], Butts butts]

I don't feel like arguing about religion. Meh.

[Maria [the clockwork creeps on useless lives], Butts butts]

I don't feel like arguing about religion. Meh.

[Annemarie, hi]

Yeah, me neither. It doesn't really go anywhere. But I dunnooo I can't resist a debate.

[Jayda]

I believe in science and God. Both go together perfectly. After all, God is the greatest scientist in the universe.

[Molverine]

Jayda wrote: "I believe in science and God. Both go together perfectly. After all, God is the greatest scientist in the universe."

I agree with Jayda.

Last year my biology teacher brought up an interesting theory. It favors both evolution and religious beliefs. It might take a minute to explain, so bear with me.

Genesis says that the Earth was created in 7 days. A day to God is thousands of years long for us, which gives plenty of time for evolution. What if, when he created animals, he waited for them to become like him before he put a soul in them?

It made a lot of sense to me, so I thought I'd throw it in here.

[Jayda]

Yep. That's my theory. A minute to us is like a thousand years to God. So a day to us would be like a million years to God, at least. Plus, who's to say that God didn't create dinosaurs? It never specifies what kind of animals He created.

I think science and religion can go perfectly hand in hand :) A type of evolution is proven (I can't remember if it's micro or macro evolition) but God isn't disproven, is He? And I'm pretty sure it's pretty much impossible to disprove God exists.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Anna de Rouen Fompledump wrote: "Jayda wrote: "I believe in science and God. Both go together perfectly. After all, God is the greatest scientist in the universe."

I agree with Jayda.

Last year my biology teacher brought up an i..."

Thousands of years isn't long enough ... It'd have to be more, like, millions. Nonetheless, interesting theory. Hmm. *scratches head*

[Mandy]

Juliet wrote: "Mandy [i can't go on i will go on] wrote: "Juliet wrote: "Well. I just have to say that a all power God erupting from the heavens isn't exactly the most logical thing in the world either."

But man..."

But the thing is, the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang states the the Earth began as pretty much a solid hunk of rock. No life. But chemicals came together to form a living cell. How does that happen? It just really doesn't. Scientists have tried to create life, but the most they can create is chemicals reacting against each other. Some divine being had to create life.

Yeah, and when people think about that, it's hard to know the answer. That's why it's good to have conversations and debates to learn and research stuff to try and find the answers.

[Mandy]

Anna de Rouen Fompledump wrote: "Jayda wrote: "I believe in science and God. Both go together perfectly. After all, God is the greatest scientist in the universe."

I agree with Jayda.

Last year my biology teacher brought up an i..."

I've heard of a similar theory that was kinda like that, and I don't think it's wrong or right, but I'd have to research it in order to have a informative opinion.

But one thing I will say is that when I say Theory of Evolution, I mean theories like a frog evolving to a bird, or a gorilla evolving to a human. That's what I don't believe in. But I believe that evolution (with a small e) happens. Like canary birds in the Galapagos Islands having different beaks that Charles Darwin noticed. He thought it was proof of Evolution (with a big e) but really, it's just proof of animals adapting to their different environment with different characteristics. It's evolution with a small e. And "to evolve" just means change.

[Elliott]

Honestly, thinking about how the Earth came to be makes my head hurt. It's a crazy concept either way.

But I believe God made it. Don't feel like arguing or anything. Which is surprising for me.

[[deleted user]]

Same here, Lav. Haha.

Mandy, I feel the same way about Evolution and evolution.

[Elliott]

Meeeee tooooo sorta, I think.

[Mandy]

*nods and smiles*

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

I didn't know there was a difference ...

Anyway. I believe it happens in all species, it's just much more noticeable on a smaller scale. i.e. The birds' beaks changing, or how bugs can grow immune to insecticide, or how viruses keep evolving to be immune to vaccinations. These are all things we can observe more easily, whereas human evolution is something we can't observe since it probably takes millions of years to happen.

The misconception about evolution is that monkeys just magically became people ... but monkeys are still monkeys and humans are still humans. Humans evolved from a species that no longer exists, but yes, we probably were once more monkey-like. That doesn't mean that we were monkeys.

[Isaac]

I believe in creation. I'm not saying animals can't adapt, but I really don't think that two protons running into each other can produce life.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

*headdesk* That's because "two protons running into each other" doesn't create life. Life is made up of cells, which are made up of organelles, which are made up of atoms, which are made up of protons, neutrons, and electrons.

[Jayda]

♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "*headdesk* That's because "two protons running into each other" doesn't create life. Life is made up of cells, which are made up of organelles, which are made up of atoms, which are made up of prot..."

Brigid, you make me smile :)

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Ahhh thanks. Haha. You make me smile too. :]

[Jayda]

Yay! :D

[Mandy]

O__O Too many words! xD

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

What's too many words?

[Isaac]

♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "*headdesk* That's because "two protons running into each other" doesn't create life. Life is made up of cells, which are made up of organelles, which are made up of atoms, which are made up of prot..."

I know. I was meaning the whole idea of two protons running into each other and then exploding into a whole universe is ridiculous. And then, with all this junk happening, life is created?

[Annemarie, hi]

*Shrug* I think the idea of God is ridiculous. Sooo. I dunno. To each his own.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Emily Zepik Fompledump wrote: "I know. I was meaning the whole idea of two protons running into each other and then exploding into a whole universe is ridiculous. And then, with all this junk happening, life is created?"

Well, one could say that the idea of some random supernatural being creating the whole universe is also "ridiculous", so that's not much of a valid argument.

[Jayda]

But my question for you is, is God actually a random supernatural being?

I see both sides. And though I am religious and do believe in God, I also believe in science, and evolution, sooo... yeah. :)

[Annemarie, hi]

Well, yeah... He's pretty random.

[Jayda]

Well, we don't know how He came to be, exactly... So we don't know for a fact that He is indeed random. This speaking from a religious perspective, of course. To someone who doesn't believe in God I can see how regardless of the question, God seems ridiculous random.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Well, I mean "random" in the sense that we don't know where God came from, if God exists. Like, if God invented the world then what invented God? Did he just appear out of nowhere?

I consider myself agnostic ... I think there could be a God or some other higher power, but it's questions like these that keep me on the fence. I also believe in evolution and whatnot. :]

[Jordan, The Picture Magician (aka Probie)]

♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Well, I mean "random" in the sense that we don't know where God came from, if God exists. Like, if God invented the world then what invented God? Did he just appear out of nowhere?

I consider myse..."

According to the bible, God wasn't created, he just was. Like, He always existed before the beginning of time and always will exist after the end of time.
Confusing, I know. But I guess you have to believe in Him to get it. Sorta.

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Well, either concept is pretty mind-blowing. It's either somehow the universe just came into being or God was always there somehow ... I dunno. Makes my poor brain melt.

[Laura]

I don't get why people always blame God for things that go wrong with their lives. I mean, if they had perfect lives, they would come to heaven and be like, "WHAT IS THIS. IT IS NOTHING NEW."

So. My logic.

[[deleted user]]

Laura, I agree. I obviously don't love it when I'm in a whole lot of pain, but that's what makes life interesting for me.

I don't usually get mad at God. It's more about me getting mad at people or situations. I do have some times where I'm frustrated with God, though...

[Brigid ✩, No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader.]

Laura wrote: "I don't get why people always blame God for things that go wrong with their lives. I mean, if they had perfect lives, they would come to heaven and be like, "WHAT IS THIS. IT IS NOTHING NEW."

So. ..."

I don't think it's so much "blaming" God as it is wondering why God would choose something horrible for you. It's easier to believe in God when your life is going well––but if something devastating happens to you that's beyond your control, it's like "Why me? Why does this have to happen?"

[Mandy]

♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "What's too many words?"

I'm just tired and not comprehending anything.

[[deleted user]]

MANDYYY!

[Mandy]

MAXYYYY! *tackles*

[[deleted user]]

Complaint Box neeeds you. And by that, I mean that I need you and I talk more in CB than here.

[Jayda]

♥ Brigid ♥ wrote: "Laura wrote: "I don't get why people always blame God for things that go wrong with their lives. I mean, if they had perfect lives, they would come to heaven and be like, "WHAT IS THIS. IT IS NOTH..."

But it's not necessarily God that is doing things to people. It's also satan/the devil. I get what you're saying. Actually, I'm kind of the opposite, haha. I have a much easier time believing in and relying on God when I'm going through a trial/in pain. But I know many people who are the opposite of me.