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Liam wrote: "Basically told the mum to control them or leave the library. Well, one of the mums, the other one went off to go shopping because apparently it says Child Care on the door rather than Library."
Haha! There you go Liam - told you not to start the smacking discussion!! LOL
Glad you told the parent to control or leave - did she leave?
Haha! There you go Liam - told you not to start the smacking discussion!! LOL
Glad you told the parent to control or leave - did she leave?

Glad you told the parent to control or leave - did she leave?"
:P I agree though, never hurt me when I was a kid. Just taught me to listen when mum got the Mum VoiceTM going or I was cruising for a bruising.
She did leave a few minutes later, took what she and her kid had grabbed and checked out.
Dale wrote: "We had a child screaming in the library the other day while his mum and her friends calmly carried on chatting. It didn't seem to occur to her to take him out. Meanwhile us older people had our own..."
It's fair enough if they're being really bad. Sometimes I get some older customers who think the library is still an absolute silence zone though, and complain.
I was at a joint use library a few weeks ago, and there were two high school girls sitting at a table discussing a project or something, and an old fella came up and complained to me that they weren't basically reading in silence, and when I told him "It's a public space, they're not screaming or being disruptive and loud, I'm sorry", he went and told them off himself and they left. That annoys me, because we're trying to get younger generations into using the library, and he basically just scared two of them off.

It's a Library for goodness sake, not a playground! Same goes for shopping centres and restaurants...bring them back when they can behave.
Forget the rowdy kids, maybe we should start slapping the parents for being so insensitive and careless and for taking it so personally instead of trying to correct it. That's my Rant.
The smacking debate is very topical today with the Perth mother who was arrested for smacking her four year old in a shopping centre
Liam wrote: "I was at a joint use library a few weeks ago, and there were two high school girls sitting at a table discussing a project or something, and an old fella came up and complained to me that they weren't basically reading in silence, and when I told him "It's a public space, they're not screaming or being disruptive and loud, I'm sorry", he went and told them off himself and they left. That annoys me, because we're trying to get younger generations into using the library, and he basically just scared two of them off. ..."
He's old school where you used to whisper in libraries - doesn't realize things have changed dramatically since then! I'd be sorry to see the girls go too; it's great they were utilizing the library for study:)
He's old school where you used to whisper in libraries - doesn't realize things have changed dramatically since then! I'd be sorry to see the girls go too; it's great they were utilizing the library for study:)

**Like** :)

Lol...always a hot topic Phrynne, it's been way too quiet in here lately :D

Wait, WHAT!? It's 100% legal to smack your child with an open hand, in SA at least. I assumed it was a federal law, maybe it differs from state to state. Assuming she wasn't going hammer and tongs on the kid's face or something then that seems hugely wrong.
☼♄Jülie wrote: "I really feel for you Liam, you are in a position where you can't just walk away..at work..and you are not just referring to one random obnoxious child but probably a succession of them during the ..."
Yeah occasionally you get parents who are like "OH sorry this is just how he/she is" and I feel like saying "And whose fault is that?"
Brenda wrote: "Liam wrote: "I was at a joint use library a few weeks ago, and there were two high school girls sitting at a table discussing a project or something, and an old fella came up and complained to me ..."
Exactly.
It is certainly not legal in WA then because she was arrested and could get up to three years in jail. They said she smacked the boy twice on the face:(

Hmm that's borderline then I suppose, I don't think the open hand thing covers face as well. You have to have some level of empathy though, if the kid was screaming and being a little monster and she was on her own trying to get stuff done, she had to be frazzled as all hell. There's a big difference between that and maliciously beating your kid, and the kid isn't gonna remember two slaps an hour later. Seems overly harsh to me.

Hmm that's borderline then..."
That guy in QLD the other week that whacked his child over the head in the cafe that was caught on camera didn't get charged (I thought his actions were abuse) so I am thinking that this WA incident must have been worse again.
I have at times given my children a smack on the bum, when I was totally at the end of my tether and then felt bad instantly. No way can I imagine smacking my child's face.

I certainly don't think people should bounce their children off walls but there has to be consequences for poor behaviour.
I agree Sally - discipline is necessary... and some kids need more than mere words. There's a difference between "child abuse" (slapping around the head) and "discipline" (smacking the bottom or legs) IMHO!
My dad had a strap which he kept rolled up on the corner of the table - all he had to do was hit it on the table edge and we would be "perfect" once again:)
I don't recall that my parents ever smacked me or my two elder brothers. When my mum said to do something we did it! I think she had secret powers:)

So, Phrynne, what happened??? lol:)

B the BookAddict wrote: "Michael wrote: "You was a very well behaved child by the sounds of it Phrynne. :)"
So, Phrynne, what happened??? lol:)"
:)
So, Phrynne, what happened??? lol:)"
:)

Carolyn wrote: "Good morning all. I was just thinking we must have a readathon coming up at the end of the month, Brenda and mods?"
Certainly do Carolyn :) It'll be posted at the same time as the Autumn challenge. You're very on the ball!
Certainly do Carolyn :) It'll be posted at the same time as the Autumn challenge. You're very on the ball!
Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Have fun Brenda! I am going to work:(
Have fun Brenda! I am going to work:(

Have a great day Brenda :)

Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!
Sharon wrote: "Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Have a great day Brenda :)"
Thanks Sharon..hope you're enjoying your break too :)
Have a great day Brenda :)"
Thanks Sharon..hope you're enjoying your break too :)
Dale wrote: "Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Port Stephens area Dale:) Thanks!
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Port Stephens area Dale:) Thanks!

Have a great day Brenda :)"
Thanks Sharon..hope you're enjoying your break too :)"
Yes it's been good to get away. Heading home today :(
Sharon wrote: "Brenda wrote: "Sharon wrote: "Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Have a great day Brenda :)"
Thanks Sharon..hope you're enjoying your..."
Safe travels :)
Have a great day Brenda :)"
Thanks Sharon..hope you're enjoying your..."
Safe travels :)

Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Port Stephens area..."
Know Fingal Bay, Brenda. We holidayed up there a couple of times. One of my children's booksThe Goanna Island Mystery was partly inspired by that area.

Dale wrote: "Brenda wrote: "Dale wrote: "Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Por..."
It's a gorgeous area isn't it Dale:) We go every now and then..have stayed in the area a few times..
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Por..."
It's a gorgeous area isn't it Dale:) We go every now and then..have stayed in the area a few times..
Dale wrote: "On the subject of books and kids here is a quote I liked from today out of A Book Lover's Calendar and Journal 'Librarians save lives by handing the right book at the right time to ..."
That's so true and not just for kids. My librarian started me with my love of various authors..she amazes me and the others in our bookclub group how well she knows our tastes :)
That's so true and not just for kids. My librarian started me with my love of various authors..she amazes me and the others in our bookclub group how well she knows our tastes :)

Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nels..."
Of course not as gorgeous as our Bay down south Brenda. Grin. But still lovely. We stayed at the Worker's club cottages just near the beach.

Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Port Stephens area..."
That is our favourite beach to go to. Such a beautiful place.

Thanks :)
I'd forgotten my post here Julie. Too busy running around after someone here!


Regina wrote: "Brenda wrote: "Dale wrote: "Brenda wrote: "We're heading to the Bay today for lunch with friends :) Should be a lovely day!"
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Por..."
And it was:) A glorious day, a breeze off the beach - lunch overlooking the water; what more could you want! We have just arrived home again...air con is now on!!
Which Bay is that Brenda? Have fun!"
Fingal Bay near Nelson Bay in Por..."
And it was:) A glorious day, a breeze off the beach - lunch overlooking the water; what more could you want! We have just arrived home again...air con is now on!!

Leonie wrote: "Have just listened to about sixty renditions of 'You Can't Stop the Beat' - sitting in on auditions for a high school musical! May need serious counselling."
Haha! Oh dear you poor thing:( One or two would have been alright...but 60!!! Hope you can sleep OK tonight!
Haha! Oh dear you poor thing:( One or two would have been alright...but 60!!! Hope you can sleep OK tonight!
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