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It looks o.k. to me. Except your second round attack. Enhanced Weapon potion is def out - so it would be - 2 (minor poison), + maybe - 3 (damage).Reva I updated my original reply to you, check it out.
It doesn't make sense for those of us to use the spells if we have over 20 attack between our weapons and weapon bonuses right? Wouldn't it just make more sense to just do a normal attack on the second round?
From what I understand (which may not be much!) the advantage is that the zombcrosis won't affect you when you use the spell. If you don't need to use any health potions (and won't for the week) then I would assume it wouldn't matter if you use your regular weapons.
Yup, Cathy is right. Depends whether you need to heal during combat and afterwards or not.Look at the higher level zombies though. Their attack power is so high you won't be able to use a conventional weapon at all. You'll be restricted to spell use (because you'll need to heal every turn).
Zuzana wrote: "Yup, Cathy is right. Depends whether you need to heal during combat and afterwards or not.Look at the higher level zombies though. Their attack power is so high you won't be able to use a convent..."
Zuzana's correct. Even with a gazillion acorns, you can only use the Red Gem once per month in order to make your first strike large. Then you're faced with dribbling attacks of under 30. It'll take a lot of rounds and heal potions to whittle down 500 HP and especially 1000 HP.
Since the Bauble and Growing Weapon Potion are tied to staff and sword you wouldn't get the accumulated benefits they'd offer with so many rounds.
It's just a numbers game -- having enough gold/potion tokens to take the monsters down. Lady Ysmay could help. Brute strength only -- no finesse required.
Zuzana says. "What is your magic staff level? You used 17 twice and 18 once in your post.Not sure about damage potion, see my question to Kelly bellow.
Zest's base value is 10, so with the modifier 2 it's 2x10= 20"
My staff at present is Level 17 but I only need 2 more books-- a Series Level #1 and a Series Level #2 to complete Level 18. --Which I'll likely have by the time I can attack the Scrambler and higher Zombies.
It seems like every time I get a #1 or #2 book, they're loaded with other features like a princess or mineral or Water on the cover etc so completing the level hasn't been a great priority. It's not like I had any big monsters to kill.
Even with the Zombies we have now, it won't make that much of a difference.
Ok that makes more sense about the advantage of spells. I was thinking to myself, why am I using ALL these books just to LEARN the spells....and then I need to read a bunch more books just for a one time 20 attack. When I already have close to that with my sword+modifiers.I guess i just need to decide how important these monsters are to me, or if I should save my books for attacking the Hydra and older monsters I haven't had a go at first.
Will magic be helpful with the Great White Dragon?? I assumed it was so that's why I started with the spell ingredients.
Does anyone have recommendations for "metal in title or series". I have NOTHING in my books or can find nothing appealing. Ugh this one is killing me.
Iron Druid chronicles?I think I'm going to reread that series ;)
When using the Zest spell, do we treat it like a minor poison potion, -- it's good for the entire battle against say, Zombie #3. OR
Do we need a wisp and minor heal potion for every strike?
Yeah, I think I'm mostly down to Iron Druid -- Hounded -- so hoping to get to reading the first of that which I have on my kindle so I can do the rest through audio -- why the libraries have them that way I don't know, but both my overdrive libraries are like that. lol.The Iron King title and series have Iron which I have never finished I think I got to the third book.
Mercy Thompson has a couple with metals: Iron/Silver
The Iron Thorn -- I have read 1 & 2 of this series. SteampunkyLovecraftianYA
The Iron Trial -- I haven't read it, but a friend enjoyed it
I'm slowly re-reading Chronicles of Narnia which has Silver Chair. Silver Linings Playbook, Visions in Silver, Silver in the Blood...
Iron and Silver seem to be REALLY FREAKING POPULAR METALS FOR TITLES. lol.
Man in the Iron Mask if you want more classic at the time.
Richelle Mead as a few in her series if you've had them on your list. Might hit a few other categories for other quests.
Umm.... I know I have had a fair amount of gold too.
Sometimes I just start typing different metals in my tbr search or just general searches. I have found a few that way I couldn't think of of the top of my head that appealed at the time when we were doing the mineral ones. Or I do it on an Overdrive search too just to cut out the middle man unless I want to see what it's about or what people thought of it if I had any friends read it.
I just go to my library and look up books under Gold, silver copper-- there's plenty available.Overdrive is definitely the way to go. Books instantly available. No fuss, no muss, no overdue books. Just a pileup when holds suddenly ALL become available at once. LOL
Oh, yeah gold, forgot about that one. Fool's Gold series by Susan Mallery (it's also great for staff upgrades since it's looong :p)Sorry, Reva, I'm not ignoring you. I just don't know the answer. You'll have to wait for Kelly to stop by for ale
I agree. Iron, Gold and Silver seem to be the most popular. Thank so much for all the suggestions I will look into them!OF COURSE I've read all my gold and silver ones haha. I did a random total GR search on some metals, but then I had a stress attack about how the heck to choose!
I thought I'd stop by here and find some recommendations that I can look into. There are just so many options.
Also, I totally agree with the head banging. Sometimes it just happens.
RebeccaS wrote: "I agree. Iron, Gold and Silver seem to be the most popular. Thank so much for all the suggestions I will look into them!OF COURSE I've read all my gold and silver ones haha. I did a random total ..."
I find it easier to see what books are available first, then I look them up on goodreads. I tried the reverse only to find I couldn't get some books at all. lots of head banging then
Also when the books are 87 pages Grrrrr. I ALWAYS CHECK NOW BEFORE I OPEN THE COVER. LOL
Reva wrote: "RebeccaS wrote: "I agree. Iron, Gold and Silver seem to be the most popular. Thank so much for all the suggestions I will look into them!OF COURSE I've read all my gold and silver ones haha. I di..."
That has happened so many times! Especially when I buy a book and then have to curse myself for not even checking. UGH
I'm almost finished reading:
A Strange Manuscript Found in a Copper Cylinder by James De Mille 3.27 · Rating Details · 489 Ratings · 69 Reviews 325 pages Read: 3/8/2016 (1888) SCIENCE FICTION, ACTIONWith its curious mixture of adventure, natural history and satire this early Canadian novel has become a landmark work of fantasy and science fiction.
It reminds me of Jules Verne or Edgar Rice Burroughs.
Hits a lot of quests:
Set at sea
Cylinder
Copper
Someone is killed
Reva, I'm afraid that every casting of a spell= a fresh batch of ingredients.But I sure hope I'm wrong. ;-)
Morgan wrote: "Yeah, I think I'm mostly down to Iron Druid -- Hounded -- so hoping to get to reading the first of that which I have on my kindle so I can do the rest through audio -- why the librar..."Have you read
? Any chance someone kills someone else in this one? I'm afraid to google it in case of spoilers.
Rebecca, Marcus Didius Falco series has at least 5 books with metal titles. They're rather short noir historical mysteries set in Ancient Rome.
Zuzana wrote: "Reva, I'm afraid that every casting of a spell= a fresh batch of ingredients.But I sure hope I'm wrong. ;-)"
Me too. Lol
Otherwise it'll take a boatload of books and potions to take down Zombies #4 & #5
Zuzana wrote: "Rebecca, Marcus Didius Falco series has at least 5 books with metal titles. They're rather short noir historical mysteries set in Ancient Rome."Yes! And they have the audio at my library! THANKS!
Will read through everything tonight but just so you know. There will be levels of spells too. I didn't intend on zombies being able to be done all this month :P
Reva wrote: "I'm almost finished reading: [bookcover:A Strange Manuscript..."I forgot to mention its a Gutenberg Publication.
Reva wrote: "Zuzana wrote: "Reva, I'm afraid that every casting of a spell= a fresh batch of ingredients.But I sure hope I'm wrong. ;-)"
Me too. Lol
Otherwise it'll take a boatload of books and potions to t..."
Kelly actually answered that one before. Each cast = same reagents/ingredients get used up.
So they will take awhile to work up to. (Of course with her mentioning spell levels....maybe you can work up to casting without reagents. Like in Harry Potter when they could do wandless -- or silent -- or both? Or maybe that's a mix of books, but I know it's happened in the genre. lol. Working up to those things.
RebeccaS wrote: "Have you read Bloodlines (Bloodlines, #1) by Richelle Mead? Any chance someone kills someone else in this one? I'm afraid to google it in case of spoilers. "It's been awhile since I started that one (I think I have the final one in that series of 5 to read still actually), but I think it's reasonably safe to say that someone is killed.
Of course I am likely remembering a mashup of the 4 books of that series, but there are multiple deaths.
Thanks Morgan. I can always read it and I'm sure it'll fit somewhere else too.
For metals, don't forget "steel". Asimov's The Caves of Steel is great sci-fi. Brass, tin, bronze, mercury, nickel... there are lots of metals in more classic books too: Man in the Iron Mask, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, etc. :)
Morgan wrote: "Kelly actually answered that one before. Each cast = same reagents/ingredients get used up.."Thanks, Morgan. I totally forgot. It was about the "garden" spell but it applies to all of them.
Reva, I did a Kindle search for dead batteries and here are some books I came up with:sci-fi:
Z for Zachariah
The Martian
All You Need Is Kill
Shift
Present Tense
Memory Prime
YA:
Eleanor & Park
crime/thriller:
Body Double
Kelly wrote: "Will read through everything tonight but just so you know. There will be levels of spells too. I didn't intend on zombies being able to be done all this month :P"YAY for levels. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to learn spells if your weapon attack power (with modifiers) is above 20.
I'm also curious what gadgets you come up with to reduce the attack power of higher level zombies.
runner zombie - 100 AP
thriller zombie - 200 AP
So far I know only about : Shield potion (half down), blue gem (half down), Rock (-1, -2 with PPP), Shield (-1). Even if all combined it will reduce thriller zombie to 48 AP which is lethal to everybody.
Maybe a magical upgrade to the shield to boost its defence power?
If I develop the arrow with 10 books, it hits with 20. Does the Red gem double that to 40?
So I'm trying to come up with the best plan of attack to get some of the hydra heads, once I have the gold to hire Lady Ysmay (2 weeks from wednesday).It's so hard picking which hydras to go after in which order (done Lust and Pride already). AND which combo of potions works the best.
I have found that battle strategizing is my absolute weak point in this RPG haha.
Sorry for all the posts!!! Stupid question here (pretty sure I've already asked this).When you have achieved enough points to level up, do you have to do it automatically? Or can you attack another monster and then level up? I just don't wanna leave 20 hp and then level up and get max hp without using my hp down.
Rebecca, I believe that leveling up is automatical. You hit certain amount of points, you level up.
Whoops accidentally deleted my question.For potions, can we use a potion at the beginning of a battle than then stop using it later during the battle? Such as the minor poison or the enhanced weapon? (I'm trying to make this Wrath work!)
Like can we say, okay no more poison potion for this battle?
Also will minor poison count when you've bounced back from negative?
Rebecca, I don't think potions work that way. Once you apply them there's no stopping them. If you use weapon enhanced potion, damage potion and/or pet plus potion they apply from that moment on till the end of the week. Minor poisons and growing strength potions work till the end of the battle.
What you CAN do. Use them later in the battle so that you'll get less AP points from them in the battle if it makes sense.
Also try to alternate between your weapons I bet their attack powers are not the same.
What I also saw (but I didn't do it myself) some players tampered with their pets, used them for one attack and not for the other.
Hope that helped you a little.
Wait. Minor poison potions work for more than -2 against a monster?It's -2 every turn?
I'm legit asking because I've been using them wrong the entire time then. I thought they were for ONE sort of 'attack' against a monster that was then just done sort of like the cat's one time attack for -2. lol.
RebeccaS wrote: "Whoops accidentally deleted my question.For potions, can we use a potion at the beginning of a battle than then stop using it later during the battle? Such as the minor poison or the enhanced wea..."
I find slinging acorns gives you flexibility with your numbers.
Morgan, once you poison a monster it loses health points every turn.it seems you didn't check out any of Reva's battles she posts here in the tavern thread. she uses the minor poison potion quite often.
Yup, Reva's right. If you have a slingshot and enought acorns it helps a lot against Hydra - wrath, too.
Hey everyone! I just joined. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm willing to try and stubble through it the best I can.
I've looked at her battles some but the way she formats is cluttered to my eyes so it's not easy for me personally to figure outs every aspect. More a personal/number dyslexia sort of issue. I've basically planned out my own attacks as I went which was more fun (to me) than basing them on anyone else. Though I did use her strat in part for the I think cliffhanger (on phone can't check) where it was 100ap 100hp and I hit it with my stockpile of acorns. XD
I've used them (poison potions) quite often too. I would just have like 6 more at the moment than I do if I'd realized. lol. Not a huge deal for me since I'm not exactly hurting for anything at the moment.
I also go some weeks not checking the thread at all because only so many notifs show before the list stops. So I also could have just missed where it was noted. Maybe one we should note in the text of the potion? What I have copied from the mod posts just says does 2 points dmg. Just to save anyone newer from doing that.
Hey Victoria, welcome. Feel free to ask any questions. The members here are very friendly. It's a lot to take in at the beginning, but do read the START HERE blurb and don't forget to take advantage of the welcome basket. :-D
And thanks for tips about the potions. Turns out if I use the minor poison AFTER my first turn it works out perfectly. I'm usually good with numbers but this strategizing is difficult. I'm trying to get 5 hydras done in one go haha.Yes the minor poison potion is a steal (don't tell Kelly and Tea that so they raise the price). I use it for all my big monsters.
So I have it all worked out that I can get my last 5 hydras and I only need to buy 21 potions! With 13 potion tokens I have some work to do haha.
Welcome Victoria!! As you can see we all try and help each other so any questions you have big or small feel free to come here and ask!
Victoria wrote: "Hey everyone! I just joined. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm willing to try and stubble through it the best I can."Welcome to the game, Victoria! If you don't understand anything feel free to ask. People here are really friendly and everybody tries to help.
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Shambler Zombie (#2) Reward: 10 Experience, 6 gold, 2 potion tokens, 1 marshmallow
- (Element Death) This zombie is slightly more challenging. It can stumble along and can be dangerous if you fall but it can be easily escaped from.
20 attack 75 HP - Requires machine gun
✯Hero Lvl 13 ✯HP: 34+2 ✯Sword Lvl 6 (+6)=12+B✯Staff Level 17(+6) =23+B ✯Exp 2491
Pet Plus Potion
Damage Potion
Enhanced Weapon Potion
Minor Poison Potion
Horse 2
Puppy 4
Cat 4
Rock 2
Shield 1
Level 18 Staff
Orb
Zest
Hero attacks Zombie #2 17 +2 + 2 horse + 4 Pup + 4 Cat + 2 Minor Poison Potion + 3 Orb + 3 Damage + 3 Enhanced + 1 Bauble + 1 Growth Weapon = 42 - 75 =33
Zombie #2 attacks 20 -2 Rock -1 Shield= 17 - 36 = 19 HP
zest = 2 x 10 = 20 + 3 Damage +3 Enhanced +2 MPP +2 horse + 4 Pup = 34 -33 = Shambler Zombie Dead
Unless damage and enhanced potions cannot be used. In that case:
Throws acorns 8-75 = 67
Hero attacks Zombie #2 17 +2 + 2 horse + 4 Pup + 4 Cat + 2 Minor Poison Potion + 3 Orb + 3 Damage + 3 Enhanced + 1 Bauble = 41 - 67 = 26
Zombie #2 attacks 20 -2 Rock -1 Shield= 17 - 36 = 19 HP
zest = 2 x 10 = 20 +2 MPP +2 horse + 4 Pup = 26 -26 = Shambler Zombie Dead