The Bachelor Team Challenge - Prose before Rose (1)

[Chan]

~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Eve is 'Lieutenant Dallas, Eve' as she says it LOL
I researched it before reading it and online it said that it would be considered blue collar, but captain and higher would be white collar because they rarely do fieldwork. HOWEVER, I will abide by the rules and find something else.

Thanks for letting me know.

[Morgan]

~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Would EMT/Firefighters work? I'm reading a book with an MC who is an EMT right now.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Morgan wrote: "~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Would EMT/Firefighters work? I'm reading..."

This one is too close for me to call...I would say yes, but not sure enough to say go ahead and use it. I'll check with Kat...

[Morgan]

Thanks Karen! There are other characters in the book who may work for blue collar. The girls father is a maintenance worker for the castle grounds. Could that work?

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Morgan wrote: "Thanks Karen! There are other characters in the book who may work for blue collar. The girls father is a maintenance worker for the castle grounds. Could that work?"

The problem is the occupation must somehow be either indicated in the précis or it must be tagged to indicate it. I've posted it in the Q&A thread, so hopefully we'll hear from Kat before too long. I started going through the shelves looking for firefighter or blue collar, but only made it through about 15 before I gave up...definitely not going to make it through more than 100!

[Stacie]

Current book I'm reading: The Outpost shelved blue-collarx2

Next book: When Life Happened Male MC is an electrician per the book summary.

Not sure if that helps anyone but that's what I found on my shelves without looking too hard.

[Chan]

Date 6 | L-Labor | Book 2
Book: Mine Till Midnight
Page#: 376
Qualifies: tagged working-class page 11 https://www.goodreads.com/work/shelve...
Completion: Jan 28 ☃️☃️☃️☃️

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Chan wrote: "~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Eve is 'Lieutenant Dallas, Eve' as she s..."

I'm going to post this in the Q&A thread too, but I'll answer here too - specifically towards your books.

For the In Death book, I know from reading them that it is early enough in the series that Peabody is still a cop, not a detective (That shouldn't really be a spoiler). You need to find a shelf though to qualify it. In general, if it is shelved it will qualify because I can't read every book to make sure the 'cop/police' that is tagged isn't a detective. (Having a hard enough time making it through my own books!) So basically more of an honor system. Yours is good though because you have a major character who is a police officer. 👍

Chan wrote: "Date 6 | L-Labor | Book 1
Book: Mine Till Midnight
Page#: 376
Qualifies: Cam has several jobs, one is an enforcer
Completion: Jan 28 ☃️☃️☃️☃️"

This one needs a qualifier - has to be tagged or in the précis. I did go through some of the shelves and found 'working class' on page 20 - that is probably the best option though I did find a few others that would be acceptable. Being historical does make it harder to find a tag, but this one works once you change it. 😊

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Morgan wrote: "~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Would EMT/Firefighters work? I'm reading..."

I'm going to say yes to this, just find something in the précis or tags to qualify it.

[Chan]

MountainKat wrote: "Chan wrote: "~KarenH~ wrote: "I hate to say it Chan, but I don't think your book will qualify...Kat said cops work, but only uniform/beat cop level, not detectives. ☹️"

Eve is 'Lieutenant Dallas, ..."

Got it. Thanks, MKat. I'll get on correcting both posts tomorrow. I appreciate all the time you (and the team leaders) put into the challenges :o)

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

You're quick, Chan! I was just posting that this is one time that I'm happy to be overruled! 😃

[Chan]

Karen, no worries. I've led another challenge and it can be difficult....and this one is brand new. This week was just a bit tricky for me for some reason. I don't know why I struggled so hard with the definition of labor {shaking head at self}

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Date 6 | L is for Labor
2nd book

Fan the Flames
Page Count: 422 pages
How book qualifies: From précis - "As a Motorcycle Club member and firefighter, Ian Walsh is used to..."
Dated Completed: 1/28/19 - 4 Stars

[Stacie]

Date 6 || L is for Labor
1st book

The Outpost Devney Perry
How it fits: shelved as blue collar x2
Pages: 362
Date: 1/28
Rating: 4 stars

[Chan]

Karen, I corrected both of my Date 6 posts.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Chan wrote: "Karen, I corrected both of my Date 6 posts."

Thanks, Chan!

[Chan]

Karen, did you like Ceremony in Death? I know there are like 50 gazillion of these books and you may not remember this one in particular. I kind of wanted to briefly discuss your thoughts on it...if you want to. Don't feel that you have to.

[Stacie]

Which one was that Chan? I've read them all.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

I'm happy to discuss, Chan, but don't know how much help I'll be. I remember the basics of the story, but not a lot of specifics. Like Stacie, I've read them all, and almost all at least twice, so things kind of run together! If you don't mind refreshing my memory with some specifics of what bothered you, that should jog my memory some...

[Chan]

Really??? even the latest one? Wow.

This one is about Wicca. I struggled with the content, but more so with Eve's actions. She can be brutal in interrogations, but she was a complete jerk. I'm trying to justify her actions in my head so that I can continue the series, but I am really struggling here.

[Stacie]

I think as time goes on, Peabody tends to balance her out and I don't find her as brutal as she once was. Part of what I like about the series is the way that Dallas has chilled while Peabody has hardened (a little) and Dallas has begun to realize people have feelings. That being said, they all seem pretty formulaic now and are usually solid three star reads. They're good, not great but I can't stop reading because Roarke and I'm 40+ books in lol

[Chan]

Those in our group who haven't read this, then don't read this post.

(view spoiler)[Eve wanted Chas to be guilty and pursued him even though it no longer made sense. She was beyond mean to him. The things she said, her actions...it was too much. After she realized that it wasn't him, she ordered him to be released, but didn't apologize or acknowledge her faults. (hide spoiler)]

LOL. I know this is fiction, but as Karen knows, I get really wrapped up in books.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Well, I don't specifically remember this one bothering me, but as I said, they all kind of run together. There have been times when I felt that Eve was out of line, but then as the series goes on she does grow a lot and become not really softer, but as Stacie said, at least more aware of other people's feelings and emotions.

I hope this doesn't turn you away from the series Chan, because while Eve never loses that hard edge she needs, it's amazing to watch the emotional growth in her as the series continues. Other reasons too, but for this discussion that is the important point. As Stacie said, the books do eventually get to be somewhat formulaic for the most part, but even if the murder mystery portion of the book is just average, what saves the later books for me are the parts of the book that aren't related to the "case"...the interactions with all the secondary characters (and Roarke of course). Those are the parts that continue to change and for me never get old.

Oh, and no, I haven't read the most recent book yet. I started a reread of the series right before it came out, so now I'll wait until I get through the series to read it. There will probably be 2 more out before I get there, so I have some new ones to look forward to!

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Oh, and Chan, why don't you put your previous post in spoiler tags, just in case! =)

[Chan]

Thanks Stacie and Karen. I don't want Eve to lose her edge. I feed off of her brutal interrogations. I guess I just needed a bit of encouragement and to know that Eve's actions do not get worse in the series. This one bothered me and I couldn't shake it.

I'll hop on the next one real soon. I can't wait to hear Roarke's Irish lilt.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Chan wrote: "I'll hop on the next one real soon. I can't wait to hear Roarke's Irish lilt."

It is addictive, isn't it? 😃

[☘KathyD☘]

Week 6—L is for Labor

, Amy Daws – 1/30/18 – ✮✮✮✮✰
Page Numbers ➔ 304
How the Book Qualifies ➔ main character is a mechanic as listed in the précis

[☘KathyD☘]

sorry I've been MIA recently...in the past two weeks I've lost both my pets (one unexpectedly, one we helped pass)...I also live in the Midwest and have been dealing with a busted furnace and frozen pipes...just what every girl wants to contend with when it's -20 outside...ugg!

anyhow, I just wanted to let you know that I'm still around and reading, just not as active.

[Chan]

☘KathyD☘ wrote: "sorry I've been MIA recently...in the past two weeks I've lost both my pets (one unexpectedly, one we helped pass)...I also live in the Midwest and have been dealing with a busted furnace and froze..."

Oh Kathy...I'm sincerely sorry. I'm sending you positive vibes, virtual hugs and warmth.

[Stacie]

Oh Kathy, I'm so sorry.

[Fi]

Date 6 - L is for Labor


Book:
Pages: 117
Date: 31/01/19
Rating: 4 stars
How it fits: tagged blue-collar

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Ah Kathy...so sorry to hear all of that! It's no fair getting slammed from two completely different directions at once!

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Date 6 | L is for Labor
3rd book

She Can Run
Page Count: 327 pages
How book qualifies: From précis - "Unbeknownst to him, his uncle engaged a caretaker just before his death, a mysterious woman with two children and a beautiful face that haunts his dreams."
Dated Completed: 1/30/19 - 4 Stars

[☘KathyD☘]

Week 6—L is for Labor – book 2

, Carrie Ann Ryan – 1/31/18 – ✮✮✮✮✮
Page Numbers ➔ 254
How the Book Qualifies ➔ tagged as blue collar workers

[☘KathyD☘]

thanks everyone! it has been two hella weeks...I think I have a cold now, too, so I'm going to enjoy snuggling in bed and reading this weekend!

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

☘KathyD☘ wrote: "thanks everyone! it has been two hella weeks...I think I have a cold now, too, so I'm going to enjoy snuggling in bed and reading this weekend!"

Sounds like a great plan!

Hey Kathy, I'm not sure but I don't think Kat is accepting lists as qualifiers...I know she did for one date, but I think that was an exception. Just in case, would you mind changing your first book post to state that it mentions in the précis that he's a mechanic? Thanks!

[☘KathyD☘]

~KarenH~ wrote: "☘KathyD☘ wrote: "thanks everyone! it has been two hella weeks...I think I have a cold now, too, so I'm going to enjoy snuggling in bed and reading this weekend!"

Sounds like a great plan!

Hey Ka..."

all done!

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Thank you!

[☘KathyD☘]

~KarenH~ wrote: "Thank you!"

any time! =)

[Stacie]

Do we need anymore? I read a second that qualifies.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Stacie wrote: "Do we need anymore? I read a second that qualifies."

I think we're good...just need Morgan's post, and we have more than 8 even without that, but thanks! =)

[Morgan]

I’m a few minutes late because our satellite cut out our WiFi. Posting now! Hopefully still accepted. Sorry!

[Morgan]

Book: Still Me
Author: JoJo Moyes
Task: Tagged blue collar or mentioned in description
How it fits: Mentioned in book description “paramedic” which was allowed as qualified per Q&A

I’m SO sorry this was late. I’ve been sick with the flu and then our WiFi cut out, hence why I’m on my phone updating.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Reposting Morgan's book with link just in case it counts!

Book:
Author: JoJo Moyes
Task: Tagged blue collar or mentioned in description
How it fits: Mentioned in book description “paramedic” which was allowed as qualified per Q&A

I’m SO sorry this was late. I’ve been sick with the flu and then our WiFi cut out, hence why I’m on my phone updating.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Morgan, you forgot the date you finished and your rating!

[MountainKat, Moderator]

I could have made an exception if you had all the information. I'm sorry.

I hope you feel better!!

[Morgan]

Ugh. It’s hard to remember what all is needed because I can’t copy and paste from my phone.

I finished it 2/1/19 and rated it 5 stars.

[Chan]

Hey All. i will be out and about when the theme is called at 6. I should be able to complete a quick book to attempt the 'speed rose,' but i want to see if we have enough team members who are going to try too.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Morgan wrote: "Ugh. It’s hard to remember what all is needed because I can’t copy and paste from my phone.

I finished it 2/1/19 and rated it 5 stars."

No worries, Morgan! It's hard enough to remember the basics of life when you're sick, much less what you need for a challenge on GR...and having to do it all on your phone just makes it worse! Get well soon!

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Chan wrote: "Hey All. i will be out and about when the theme is called at 6. I should be able to complete a quick book to attempt the 'speed rose,' but i want to see if we have enough team members who are going..."

I don't think you need to push for it, Chan...we're far enough behind the Procrastinators that we don't have a shot at winning this late in the game, so just do what works best for you. I'm kind of in the same position, but from a little different angle. I'll be home and able to listen, but busy preparing for company for the Super Bowl tomorrow so don't know if I'll have time to search for a short book for each category before then. I have books picked for each, but they're all long enough that I won't finish until possibly as late as tomorrow morning.