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What Else Are You Reading in 2018?


Luke Daniels did a fantastic job narrating Terms of Enlistment by Mark Kloos. 90% of the book is about boot camp & battles. If you enjoy military SF, you'll probably like this series. The whole thing is on KU Read & Listen.


And I just started Dreadnought for the buddy read that begins tomorrow. YA and I always don't get along (and, for whatever reason, particularly YA told in the first-person present tense), but 40 pages in and I am having so much fun with this one.





Absolutely! I intended to wait for mid month … but then I got just too curious. This book was written for me (well … I guess, it wasn't ;) - but it felt that way :) )

The book I read immediately afterward, The Lamb Will Slaughter the Lion, touched on many of the same themes (including a bit of gore), and the politics were even closer to the surface.
I enjoyed both of these books individually, and I appreciated them even more reading them back-to-back and being able to reflect on the similarities and differences. I think they both draw on queer discourse and culture in some really interesting ways.
I also read the most recent volume of Saga, Saga, Vol. 9. I have lots and lots of feelings, both good and bad. It's an intense book, which I think is about the only non-spoilery thing I can say about it.

I've read all of Leckie's novels to date now. My favorites in order are Justice, [Mercy and Provenance about equal], Sword. Very much looking forward to The Raven Tower early next year!
Unlikely to be of interest to anyone here is vol. 2 of light novel series* The Irregular at Magic High School. My friend loaned me the first three, and I feel some obligation to him and these books. Well... hate reading will probably carry me that far. (review Content warning: me telling a book to eff off.)
*basically Japanese YA. Almost all that have been translated into English were obviously written for boys.
I really must try Saga. And probably get back to Leckie at some point. Justice didn't blow me away, though. I liked the gender experiment, but a lot of the story was lost on me, I think.
Argh, sorry you have to hate read for a friend, Beth! That was me and the godforsaken Wizard's First Rule. Not even gonna link. Still mad at the friend who recommended it.
Kirsten, are you enjoying it so far?
Argh, sorry you have to hate read for a friend, Beth! That was me and the godforsaken Wizard's First Rule. Not even gonna link. Still mad at the friend who recommended it.
Kirsten, are you enjoying it so far?

Yeah, me too. :D Aside from a bad translation they are easy to read (kind of like our YA), so my suffering won't go on for too much longer.

And then I promised another friend I’d read a book (which turned oout to be three in a series) and review if for their site (The Baker Street Babes, they review anything Sherlock Holmes related), but it’s also so godforsakenly badly written I can’t get through it. Why did I ever say yes!

And then I promised another friend I’d read a book (which..."
Uh oh … that's a tough situation.

It is not sci-fi but it is fantasy, incuding a winged Angel and the ghost of Ethel Rosenberg.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Right now I'm reading "Body Language" which isn't in "The Lady Astronaut of Mars" continuity but I'm finding it unusual.
Allen, we welcome all books, even out of genre! That sounds depressing, though. Is it?
Shomeret, good unusual or not sure yet?
Shomeret, good unusual or not sure yet?

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Tell me what you mean by "depressing" and I can give you a better answer.

Shomeret, good unusual or not sure yet?"
Allison wrote: "Allen, we welcome all books, even out of genre! That sounds depressing, though. Is it?
Shomeret, good unusual or not sure yet?"
I think it's good unusual. It's cross genre combining science fiction with crime in a futuristic context.
ALLEN wrote: "Allison wrote: "Allen, we welcome all books, even out of genre! That sounds depressing, though. Is it?
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Tell me what you mean by "depressing" and I can give you a better answer."
Anytime Ethel Rosenberg shows up in text, I expect lots of conspiracies, brutal deaths, unfulfilled dreams, bigotry and fear.
Though I guess if the writing isn't good, that is also possibly depressing ;-)
Shomeret, cool! That does sound unusual but interesting.
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Tell me what you mean by "depressing" and I can give you a better answer."
Anytime Ethel Rosenberg shows up in text, I expect lots of conspiracies, brutal deaths, unfulfilled dreams, bigotry and fear.
Though I guess if the writing isn't good, that is also possibly depressing ;-)
Shomeret, cool! That does sound unusual but interesting.

Ethel appears as a ghost in the 1980s, but in a way she gets her revenge on Roy Cohn. (I can't elaborate for fear of introducing a major spoiler.)
Bad news: Someone dies of AIDS. Good news: It was Roy Cohn.
Really an interesting play, full of humor and fantasy as well as drama.
I loved reading it ANGELS IN AMERICA, as I loved the HBO production of it.

Read The Descent of Monsters, which is probably my favorite of the three so far. I'm lamenting the wait for the next one though.
Making progress on The Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter. I like it, but I'm worried I'm going to find it too gimmicky at some point.
Started Bird Box, which is creepy so far. I made the mistake of reading it in a dark room before trying to go to bed.


Oh yes, definitively creepy!

Ethel appears as a ghost in the 1980s..."
That happened to me yesterday. I was reading Jell-O Girls: A Family History and was surprised that the Rosenbergs came up. I'll bet a lot of people reading that had to Google it. I mean, I run into people that haven't even heard of the Manhattan Project. Which is funny as I live 45 minutes away from one of the original sites - Hanford!

LMAO"
He was STILL ALIVE??????

He probably strong-armed the NEW YORK TIMES into calling it "liver cancer," but we know now it was AIDS. The countours of his illness and death are sketched fairly realistically in ANGELS IN AMERICA.

(I have read both plays, seen both plays, when they were on Broadway the first time, and have each of them autographed by Tony Kushner.) Oh and I've seen HBO version, too.
Allen's right. It's good theater, good literature, and worth reading.
Ah, I feel bad for having laughed at that, but you caught me with the set up, Allen. Ugh. I think this is what lolcry was designed for.

Allison, one would have to have a heart of stone not to rejoice at the death of Roy Cohn. When even arch-conservatives heard how and of what he had died, some were known to mutter, "So there is a God."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-roy...
Extra Credit: Who mentored Donald Trump early in his career?

For any of Leckie's books after Justice, I recommend the audiobooks - Adjoa Andoh is an amazing narrator and I found the books more engaging that way. (I've heard that the person who originally narrated Justice wasn't as good, but it looks like there's a new version with Andoh coming out in November.)

Also, argghhhh about the wait until the next Tensorate book. That ending was amazing but so frustrating!

Ditto. Though I didn't see them on Broadway. They are utterly incredibly works. The HBO miniseries is a fantastic introduction for the curious.

Just picked up The Deep and am enjoying it, so far. :)

For any of Leckie's books after Justice, I recommend the audiobooks - Adjoa Andoh is an amazing narrator and I found the..."
Agreed, the audiobooks for the last two of the Ancillary series are fantastic. The first one isn't bad, but I do like Andoh's narration better.
Oh, sorry, Kaa, I didn't see this! Thank you for the recs, and great tip from you and Jordan about the audiobooks. Good audiobooks really can just make the words pop.
I definitely want to read Saga, I'd just heard it was in a rough part of the story and I am hopeful it gets somewhere a little less rough?
I definitely want to read Saga, I'd just heard it was in a rough part of the story and I am hopeful it gets somewhere a little less rough?

Unfortunately it just went on hiatus for at least a year, but yeah, it left off at a pretty rough spot.
Kaa wrote: "Allison wrote: "I definitely want to read Saga, I'd just heard it was in a rough part of the story and I am hopeful it gets somewhere a little less rough? "
Unfortunately it just went on hiatus fo..."
Argh! Why don't creators cater immediately to my needs! This is most vexing!
Maybe I can dip my toe in? Is there a volume that feels like a decent end to an arc?
Unfortunately it just went on hiatus fo..."
Argh! Why don't creators cater immediately to my needs! This is most vexing!
Maybe I can dip my toe in? Is there a volume that feels like a decent end to an arc?



I'm trying to get into it, its hard.

Now for something completely different. I’ve just picked up the Single Ladies of Jacaranda Retirement Village by Joanna Nell to read today. It only came out last week. Hopefully it’s ok. I might get some tips on growing old disgracefully 🤪

I have the Murderbot Diaries. I'll start them either today or tomorrow. =D
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Alright! Moving onto The Poppy War. Hope this one is good.