The Diary of a Young Girl
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Anyone else hate this Diary
har har har har. I am just dying. You think I give a crap whether you give a crap. wow. that was quiet a good laugh. However, I was just saying that you shouldn't have bothered becoming my friend if you were just gonna turn around and insult me. And out of everything I wrote, you chose to respond to that. Hey, maybe you should go to counselling, they might help you figure out what crap you want to post next on the internet. Are you sure that the pain isn't the aching of your brain from thinking so hard.
Belle wrote: "har har har har. I am just dying. You think I give a crap whether you give a crap. wow. that was quiet a good laugh. However, I was just saying that you shouldn't have bothered becoming my friend i..."If you had bothered to read my post you would have seen that I suggested that even I might be a Troll – my comments were merely tongue in cheek – but maybe you don’t understand that phrase either. You do seem to prefer very basic English, and if you don’t mind my saying so, you are over using the word “crap” to the point where it has now lost any impact you had hoped for.
I don’t recall actually disagreeing with your recent comments, or making “retarded insults” or saying that the thread was stupid or ridiculous. You are reading into comments things that aren’t there. As to the friendship thing – YOU asked ME. I don’t need to ask people to be my friend….
As for insults - you are the one being offensive and hurling insults around. Quite the little bully....
I shall leave you to have the last word, which in all probability be "crap" whichever way you look at it...
Who gives a schumer about all this "friend" crap? I wouldn't want to Befriend anyone who would Befriend someone like ME, Anyway!!! (Though I would probably do it if they asked, just to avoid hurting their feelings...)
I wish I had more expertise in group psychology to make a sound study of this thread. It is fascinating.When I first came here, there were 18 pages of insulting, mocking and bashing Anamika. As Belle tried to intervene, she went also under fire a bit.
So, I came in and called out on the most aggressive insults. Result? The most aggressive ones started attacking me instead (and another, whose name I can't remember anymore) and started being polite and even friendly to Anamika and Belle. So, I considered myself satisfied and left the thread alone. I thought, no point in arguing: people were already friendly and polite.
But then, the new "chew-toys" removed, the most aggressive ones went back to insulting Anamika and, again, Belle, when she intervened. Mentally ill, seriously? I would really like to make a study about aggressive behavior online. I have seen it also in other virtual worlds, like Second Life and Tumblr fandoms and, while it can be irritating to witness, it would be fascinating to study.
Anamika, I don't think this thread is going anywhere good. People are being hypocrites and insulting and i don't think it will help you as much as lead you to a bunch of people who disagree with you and shove it down your throat. You should probably just delete the thread. As for you, Trixie, you were the one who called me a troll (which is your twisted way of an insult) just because I was defending Anamika. And then you expect me to just sit there and be okay with it? Yes, I DID ask you, but if you were going to insult me then you shouldn't have accepted the request. jeez. and "you are the one being offensive and hurling insults around"
seriously? You insulted me and offended me first (which is the reason for this argument) so don't even start that I started this because that would make you a bully and a liar...
@Laura,there is nothing to study. When you talk nonsense and act like a child by throwing phrases like "research" around you without having any idea what they mean, people are going to get agitated and insult you. Some may try to persuade you in a gentle manner, as some on this thread have, but when acting as stubborn and defensive as Ana-something, there is only one outcome.
This is not the first discussion you've started on the theme of hating books is it, Anamika? Back in March you said you hated Lord of the Rings.....what is it with you? In that thread it was suggested you read it again when you're older, to which you replied that you probably wouldn't like it even when you're older! You have such silly, preconceived ideas. Perhaps when your age is into double digits, and your IQ matches it, you may have something worth saying.If you want to seriously research books there are batter ways of doing it than stirring people into a frenzy of insults.
Paul Martin wrote: "When you talk nonsense and act like a child by throwing phrases like "research" around you without having any idea what they mean, people are going to get agitated and insult you. Some may try to persuade you in a gentle manner, as some on this thread have, but when acting as stubborn and defensive as Ana-something, there is only one outcome. "Not really. I understand that people will strongly disagree, the same as I disagree with her. However, I saw some people who participated on this thread a LOT, since the early pages of it until very recently, and never threw an insult. Thus, it IS possible to be well-mannered and still state strong disagreement.
Paul Martin wrote: "@Laura,there is nothing to study. When you talk nonsense and act like a child by throwing phrases like "research" around you without having any idea what they mean, people are going to get agitat..."
Ana-mika.
its really not that hard.
There is nothing to hate.
Okay - I hate Anne Frank's diary - now what?And if it's on a public forum, then it becomes everyone's business.....don't go accusing people of "poking noses into others business" when you launched this thread.....silly girl.
Duane wrote: "Who gives a schumer about all this "friend" crap? I wouldn't want to Befriend anyone who would Befriend someone like ME, Anyway!!! (Though I would probably do it if they asked, just to avoid hurti..."Channeling a little
Edited for failure to spellcheck the initial post.
Anamika wrote: "Gil wrote: "Okay - I hate Anne Frank's diary - now what?And if it's on a public forum, then it becomes everyone's business.....don't go accusing people of "poking noses into others business" wh..."
If not the thread, then what? You actually said:
"Now I don't understand why you want to poke your nose into others business." So - explain please.
You talk in riddles Anamika. I've looked through that Lord of the Rings thread you started back in March and it's the same there - riddles and nonsense. I really think the top and bottom of it is that you have little or no understanding of what you are saying.
You've not answered my question - I told you I hate Anne Frank's Diary - what now? Will I explode? Implode? Burst into flames? Disappear in a cloud of brilliant purple smoke?
Gil wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Gil wrote: "Okay - I hate Anne Frank's diary - now what?And if it's on a public forum, then it becomes everyone's business.....don't go accusing people of "poking noses into oth..."
>.< leave her alone.
Belle wrote: "Gil wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Gil wrote: "Okay - I hate Anne Frank's diary - now what?And if it's on a public forum, then it becomes everyone's business.....don't go accusing people of "poking no..."
Do you know what - I cannot stand the way you bully other people. I am quite sure Anamika is capable of speaking up for herself without you being her mouth piece.
She asked for people who hate this particular book - I've said I hate it. I await HER answer without your input. Now go away and don't bother me.
Anamika wrote: I NEED TO DO THAT RESEARCH BUT I DOUBT I'LL EVER TELL YOU WHYHaha, hearing you use the word "research" is like watching a fish trying to climb a tree.
I can't believe people are still humoring Anamika the troll by posting here. Did she ever produce her "big reveal?" She's manipulating you guys like a puppeteer.
Gil wrote (to Belle): "I cannot stand the way you bully other people."Now, that is a new one. Gil, I understand your point, but you have no clue whatsoever what bullying is.
Dusty Bibliophile wrote:Channeling a little Grocho Marx, eh?
dang, somebody is AWAKE on this thread... I don't believe it! Momentum Mirabili...
Has anyone considered the possibility that Amanita is an AI experiment??
@Duane: I think someone way back suggested that this girl is a computer robot. Personally I think she's a pre-teen with little or no education who has a new toy (a computer) and has decided to come out and play.Oh yes, Laura I certainly do know what bullying is, and having looked right through the thread I can see a helluvah lot of it going on - you obviously understand it so well as quite a lot is from you! Belle has picked an argument with just about everyone; she is antagonistic, offensive, hectoring and rude - so yes, she has earned the label. Which is why I told her to back off.
It looks like this thread will degenerate again into a prolonged argument about bullying, trolls, WW2.
I'm still waiting to hear from Anamika about my view on Anne Frank's Diary, which is the whole reason for this thread - is it not?
Gil wrote: "It looks like this thread will degenerate again into a prolonged argument about bullying, trolls, WW2."Well, Gil, if people keep insulting and calling names, then I guess that's the reason why bullying and trolling are being discussed.
So, yes, I've included a lot of quotes of people insulting Anamika. Along with those, I included some other posts, taken out of context and I acknowledge it. And that's all I did, which you can consider aggressive. I never insulted and never called any names, not even bully. I may have used the adjective "aggressive". I responded to people insulting, mocking and belittling.
I would say that 18 pages of insults and mockery (which are now 24) is way more aggressive, but of course, you wouldn't. Even now, she's being called silly, mentally ill and mentally challenged (that last one was you, actually). And you have the nerve of calling Belle a bully, because she's trying to get people to back off a little? No, you have no idea what bullying is.
Laura wrote: "Gil wrote: "It looks like this thread will degenerate again into a prolonged argument about bullying, trolls, WW2."Well, Gil, if people keep insulting and calling names, then I guess that's the r..."
If you say so.....
Yes I do "have the nerve" because Belle was trying to intimidate me, which is the only thing she knows how to do - and I'll give her this, she does it well. I will NOT be bullied by her, or by you. It was down to you and Leslie that this whole thread disintegrated in the first place!
Anamika wrote: " I told you I hate Anne Frank's Diary - what now? Well what a coincidence,I hate it too!
Look Belle wasn't bullying.It was your fault why she even told that.She told that to defend me while I was..."
This confirms my belief that you and Belle are one and the same.
If someone is a BULLY then that is the label they shall wear whether you like it or not. Belle's offensive, intimidating, rude behaviour is bullying - end of. Whether it is done to "protect" you is irrelevant.
the same could be said about you, Trixie. Except you are a bully and a hypocrite. You insulted me, and I insulted you back and now I'm the bully? At least if you're gonna say im a bully then call yourself one too, because i guess If someone is a BULLY then that is the label they shall wear whether you like it or not.
Gil wrote: "Laura wrote: "Gil wrote: "It looks like this thread will degenerate again into a prolonged argument about bullying, trolls, WW2."Well, Gil, if people keep insulting and calling names, then I gues..."
um... I am NOT a bully. I was trying to get you to stop badgering Anamika, and Im sorry if it came off as bullying. Im just tired of people being so rude to her, and actually, I know she can stand up for herself, but its her against everyone and that is SO not fair. You people gang up on her and then call me a bully for telling you to stop.
Why dont you just shut down the the thread Anamika. Its only caused trouble, and out of the 24 pages of comments, there probably has been only about two people who agree with you. You dont deserve the insults you've been called either, and I seriously doubt that people will stop or change their minds.
okay. Im just sayin
Oh for Pete's sake - just listen to yourselves. You can't even unravel who said what to whom! It's all such teenage rubbish....go back to your school playground and come back when you have something worth saying.Over to you two for the last word......
that's what you said last time. And what's your school playground? Satan's Pit?
For lo, the winter is pastThe rains are over and gone
And the smell of the sock-puppet is strong in the land.
Orinoco Womble (tidy bag and all) wrote: "For lo, the winter is pastThe rains are over and gone
And the smell of the sock-puppet is strong in the land."
lolllll. nice.
Orinoco Womble (tidy bag and all) wrote: "For lo, the winter is pastThe rains are over and gone
And the smell of the sock-puppet is strong in the land."
http://sockpuppettheatre.com/
Duane wrote: "Dusty Bibliophile wrote:Channeling a little Grocho Marx, eh?
dang, somebody is AWAKE on this thread... I don't believe it! Momentum Mirabili...
Well, I may have been awake enough for the reference but I obviously fell asleep during the spellcheck. facepalms It's Groucho, not Grocho. Original post has been corrected now, though. Sheesh.
Trixie wrote: "Oh for Pete's sake - just listen to yourselves. You can't even unravel who said what to whom! It's all such teenage rubbish....go back to your school playground and come back when you have somethin..."I will repeat something I said before. Shame on you, who believe that you are "the mature ones", behaving like little kids on a sand box. Shame on you, for the arrogance of your non-deserved superiority flares with which you keep coming to this thread just to add more insults. I pity you. I pity anyone who feels the need to repeatedly attack and insult someone because of their opinion. I pity anyone who feels the urge to flash how "very culturally superior" they feel that they are.
So, yes, I am being aggressive to you in this post. The difference between us is the reason we do it. You do it because what I just mentioned above. I do it because you entertained yourself in insulting, bashing, mocking and diminishing a girl for several days now and you seem to enjoy it.
Thanks, Dusty! Bookmarked it.
Laura wrote: "Trixie wrote: "Oh for Pete's sake - just listen to yourselves. You can't even unravel who said what to whom! It's all such teenage rubbish....go back to your school playground and come back when yo..."I've noticed whenever the temperature on this thread rises Anamika goes into hiding. There is so much aggression on here and all of it triggered by that one question right at the beginning: "Anyone else hate this diary?" Ironic don't you think?
I would hate to be in the same room as half of you; I just keep wondering where all this has come from - and where it's all going....
Thanks for the Sock Puppet Theatre, Dusty - brilliant!
Gil wrote: "There is so much aggression on here [...]; I just keep wondering where all this has come from"Good question!
Gil wrote: "Perhaps when your age is into double digits, and your IQ matches it, you may have something worth saying."
You tell me...
well can you blame her Gil. People are so rude, who would wanna stick around to be insulted?
However, I saw some people who participated on this thread a LOT, since the early pages of it until very recently, and never threw an insult.Yes, that works up until a certain point, but when the OP acts like Anamika, it's going to deteriorate sooner or later.
Anamika wrote: "Gil I'd love to explain right now but I'm kind of busy at this moment so I'll do it later."Does this sound familiar? She's been saying stuff like this or weeks, and you guys have been swallowing the bait. Wise up. Beat feet. You're being used.
I don't think used is the word. Maybe decieved, but not used.
Paul Martin wrote: "Yes, that works up until a certain point, but when the OP acts like Anamika, it's going to deteriorate sooner or later. "I agree with you on that one. Indeed, some of the patient people ended up getting angry. However, the aggressive ones were aggressive since the beginning of the thread, too.
The respectful ones remained so, even if their frustration could be seen in their comments. Frustration and anger I understand, but plain disrespect? Did Anamika insult anyone? Did she call anyone an idiot, [insert age argot], mentally ill, etc.? She didn't even call people bullies until very recently, after Belle was called that a couple of times.
Look, I get it. She has an opinion that most people antagonize and she chose to let it out in a not too delicate manner. My personal opinion is that that's no excuse to insult/trash someone in the way some of the most aggressive posters have done.
Duane wrote: "Has anyone considered the possibility that Amanita is an AI experiment?? "This idea has been raised before, and it is plausible that A. is an automaton troll programmed to pump up the traffic with meaningless drivel so Goodreads can charge more for advertising.
Monty J wrote: "Duane wrote: "Has anyone considered the possibility that Amanita is an AI experiment?? "This idea has been raised before, and it is plausible that A. is an automaton troll programmed to pump up t..."
And I see how that idea would be soothing to all those people who trashed her for days. They may feel so much better to think it's not a human being at the receiving end of the mockery and insults.
yeah
Did Anamika insult anyone?Her opinion and way of behaving can be categorized as offensive and insulting, yes. I don't much care, but I can see how others can.
My personal opinion is that that's no excuse to insult/trash someone in the way some of the most aggressive posters have done.
I partly agree. Personal insults should be avoided. I don't see why people comment on her English or mental health, but when you start a thread like this, you should expect heat, especially on such a sensitive book as this.
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Paul, how was her behavior insulting? Like Laura said, even when people were trashing her and calling her horrible names, she just tried to calm them down. Literally, maybe the only thing that could be classified as a little irritating about her is that puts off answering things. And I would rather be like that then be like the people who insult her...
Belle wrote: "Why dont you just shut down the the thread Anamika. Its only caused trouble, and out of the 24 pages of comments, there probably has been only about two people who agree with you. You dont deserve ..."Wise words - but interesting that Anamika still wants to keep this running. What exactly is her agenda, I wonder?
Belle wrote: Paul, how was her behavior insulting?Her use of the term "research" is, for example, an insult to all who actually do real research, and her reasons for "hating" the book is an insult to Anne Franks' memory, and all the other jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc who've had a similar experience.
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OMG - I don't think I can stand this. You have removed me from your Friend List! How could you do that? I am totally, utterly, completely devastated – in fact you can probably tell, I’m falling apart already at the thought of no longer having your valued friendship. No Belle, don’t feel bad about it, you’ve done what you feel is the mature and right thing to do. I’ll try to carry on, but it will be a struggle.
Maybe counselling and medication will help…..
Oh the pain, the pain….