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message 701: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments Peggy wrote: "He does a lot of really irritating stuff lately. Or maybe always and I was just blind to it ;-)"

He seemed to lose touch with himself when he split with Vanesa Paradis and took up with Amber Heard.


message 702: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I think so too Janice, it all went downhill from there. He seemed like a very nice guy who didn't let all the hollywood stuff get to him before. Ah well, I'll find someone else to drool over! ;-)


message 703: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Peggy wrote: "He does a lot of really irritating stuff lately. Or maybe always and I was just blind to it ;-)"

I don't remember him being this irritating before. I think you are right, Janice, splitting with Vanessa Paradis did him no good at all. What I don't like is how he always plays the victim these days. Whenever some bad reports surface, like the current ones of how he is nearly bankrupt, he always blames someone else. At the moment he is blaming his financial team for getting him into this mess but surely they don't/can't force him into spending his money?


message 704: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Maybe he blames them for not informing him he should take it easy with the wine and not drink for tens of thousands of dollars each month, or that they should have warned him not to buy that 14th (!) house?

He was probably so rich he thought he could do anything and didn't bother to keep track, and is now blaming others that he spent more than he had.


message 705: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments No thats not it Peggy. His financial advisers did tell him he could not maintain that lifestyle. He was just too rich at the time. Now he's gonna have to learn about the economics of drinking boxed wine. He may also want to make a decent movie and get a decent paycheck. Also I think I heard he never even paid Australia . Not sure I may have misread that.

Ok Joan I'm going to just rest my case. I'm also just going g to continue to put my money in my Roth IRA instead of social security. I'm just not someone who trusts the government


message 706: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Had night milking off for my birthday. Went bowling which I haven't done in I don't remember how long. Then went to Texas Roadhouse not for dinner but to just sit at the bar for a nightcap and snack. Met the most hilarious couple. His ex wife ended up being my neighbor and his wife also works at a hospital so she and my wife knew all the same people. Funny that we skip all the local bars and go to a bar 15 miles away just to meet people who also drive 15 miles because they don't like the company at the local bars either. I'm not a fan of going out or restaurants in general but I do love Texas Roadhouse


message 707: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments Happy birthday, Travis. Glad to know you had a good time.


message 708: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thanks Sandra.


message 709: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Happy Birthday, Travis!


message 710: by Joan (new)

Joan Happy Birthday Travis, IRA's are the better than relying on ss, or how about real estate? I hear there might be a village in France in foreclosure.


message 711: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Happy birthday Travis!


message 712: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thanks Peggy Joan and Lisa.

Too funny Joan. Depp can keep his village


message 713: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments Happy birthday Travis. Glad you had a good time.


message 714: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thanks Janice


message 715: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Happy Birthday, Travis!


message 716: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thank you Cherie


message 717: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Sounds like it was the perfect way to celebrate your birthday, Travis.

I had six pages of posts to catch up on here, and it's too much for me to respond to. For all those feeling bad I wish I could find the recipe for what I call Garlic Death Broth. It's basically chicken broth with a ton of garlic and lots of herbs and spices. When not drinking it straight, it's great to add a little to soups.

I've been avoiding the news, and mostly any tv. I start getting too anxious and not dealing with things, and then I can't focus and get lost in what's true or not. I think in January I lost at least a week, I think I lost two days this week. I go to bed on a Tuesday and when I get up it's Thursday. I know I must have gotten up some during that time, but I have no real recollection of what I did, but there's dog food in Jingo's bowl, my Kindle's lost power and there are empty granola wrappers and water bottles by my bed .

I had to get health care last month and it was so confusing. So many phone calls trying to sell me coverage and not one of them could be straightforward with answering the questions I asked. My main concern was mental health care, and it seemed no one really knew what that was. I actually had one guy ask me if my being bipolar was situational, and then told me that all depression was situational and not chemical. I told him in clear terms that he was a total ass and he should refer all calls to someone who knew what they were talking about. I finally talked to a woman who knew the answers and helped me be sure my psychiatrist and therapist were in their network and that my meds and hospitalization were covered.

I haven't spent much time on GR as I lose focus. I'll read posts and start to reply and the next thing I know I'm lost on jigsawplanet.com. It's the only place I feel competent, as there's no thinking involved. I've also been reading a lot - 23 books in January that I entered here and I know there were more. So I've been hiding out and avoiding life, and letting all the negative things overwhelm me. I've talked to my therapist more than everyone else combined lately and I hope things are going to turn around. I feel bad not contributing more to the group, but felt no news was better than drivel. Sorry for rambling so much. I don't like worrying my family, but it reaches a point where it all tumbles out somewhere. I'm not looking for sympathy or assurance. I know everyone here is accepting of each other - including of me. So no posts needed regarding this part - they would probably make me feel like I said too much, which is probably true but I don't have a filter at the moment.

I made Woo Woos last week. Very sweet, but went down easy. Two parts cranberry juice, one part vodka, and one part peach schnapps. I swear I still tasted peaches two days later. Another time I had prosecco and lemoncello with fresh raspberries, which I really liked. I've decided to try something new, or go back to a favorite, once a week and that's enough. Keeping up with my book characters would keep me drunk all the time unless I cut back on reading. ☺


message 718: by Joan (new)

Joan Jaxnsmom
Thanks for the post, I don't keep any liquor at home but I would like to find a cocktail lounge where I could try that liminocello thing. I wonder where all the sultry voiced lounge singers hang out?


message 719: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments Mmmmm... I love prosecco, and I love lemoncello. The combination with raspberries sounds tempting.


message 720: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Rusalka wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Oh my! Never thought about it, but it makes so much sense! Terrible. "

It's kinda funny until you think about it too hard!"


Well, now I feel not so bad about having laughed over it.


message 721: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Sandra wrote: "Mmmmm... I love prosecco, and I love lemoncello. The combination with raspberries sounds tempting."

Joan wrote: "Jaxnsmom
Thanks for the post, I don't keep any liquor at home but I would like to find a cocktail lounge where I could try that liminocello thing."


It really is a lovely drink. I picked up a book at the library called Sharp Shooters by David Biggs Sharp Shooters by David Biggs from the sale area. There are several I want to try.


message 722: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Happy Birthday Travis!

And good to have you check in, Jmom! Those drinks sound delicious. I need to find some more unwaxed lemons to make more limoncello.

I ordered a giant shoulder of pork last week as we were having people over for dinner last night. However, they couldn't get a babysitter so we went to theirs instead. I am now trying to cook 4kg of pork in 38C.

They also stuffed the order and it's been skinned, so I am trying to do a pulled pork. I marinated it overnight (well once we got home at 3am) in maple syrup, red wine vinegar and spices. I whacked it in the oven, and they say uncovered for hours without liquid, which I think would make it quite dry. So I've chucked some tomatoes around it, and I'll whack some wine in later. The plan is to pull it, then mix a tomato and chipotle chilli mix through it.

I hope it works, as I will have a freezer full of the stuff after tonight.


message 723: by Joan (new)

Joan Funny thing about pork shoulder - when I was growing up in New England we called Boston Butt - I not sure how we got the anatomy so confused.


message 724: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments Sure j'mom... point the way to a jigsaw website. I just took a 45 minute detour.

I have a bottle of limoncello in my freezer at the moment. But my go to drink at the moment is hot chocolate with Baileys.


message 725: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 2987 comments Janice wrote: "Sure j'mom... point the way to a jigsaw website. I just took a 45 minute detour."

I totally did that too! lol


message 726: by Lilisa (new)

Lilisa | 2770 comments OMG Jaxnsmom, the jigsawplanet site is addictive - the things I don't know about on the Internet, lol! Happy birthday Travis!


message 727: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments What can I say - I love jigsaw puzzles. ☺ And I love this site since you can change the shape and number of pieces.

Janice wrote: "I have a bottle of limoncello in my freezer at the moment. But my go to drink at the moment is hot chocolate with Baileys."

I had a bedtime drink of Baileys this evening :)

Rusalka - I haven't cooked one in a while, but from what I remember the pork shoulder is usually cooked (rubbed with some oil, and seasonings if preferred) with no liquid added. The trick was to cook it at a higher temp, about 400 or 425 for a little while, and then lower the temp to about 325 and cook forever (hours based on weight). Don't remember, but it probably had some fat still on it. Don't know how stuffed would affect it. My mom used to cook it in the crockpot and it always came out great. But how come moms can cook something and I can never get the same flavor? Very irritating.


message 728: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Janice - when jigsawpuzzle is calling to you, if you haven't yet, go to popular tags and click on quilts :)


message 729: by Tejas Janet (new)

Tejas Janet (tejasjanet) | 3513 comments Good hearing from you, Jmom. I appreciate your openness about what you're going thru. I'm not a stranger to bipolar. Grew up with members of immediate and extended family dealing with this. Very challenging for all.

I also find jigsaw puzzles soothing. Have always loved working them. So comforting for some reason. Still love them, but only manage to fit in about one a year come Christmas/New Year.

And why is "pork butt" actually from shoulder? And yuck, anatomy of animals I do eat, tho sparingly, does kind of gross me out to think about. I'm not a country, farm girl obviously.


message 730: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Nice to hear from you, Jmom :)


message 731: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thanks Rusalka and Lilisa.

Wild times Jmom. Assuming you were trying to meet the final days of ACA enrollment

Pork shoulder always goes in crock pot. But other than steak or hamburger everything goes in crock pot. It's just so easy


message 732: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments I agree, except when it doesn't fit.

It was massive.


message 733: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments Interesting article about gender and intelligence stereotypes:

Young Girls Are Less Apt To Think That Women Are Really, Really Smart

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-sh...


message 734: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments jaxnsmom wrote: "Janice - when jigsawpuzzle is calling to you, if you haven't yet, go to popular tags and click on quilts :)"

I have a jigsaw app on my iPad called Magic Puzzles. I usually do a couple of day, but they are so similar that I know where the shapes go without looking at colour or picture. Jigsawplanet is a welcome change.

The quilt puzzles look amazing!


message 735: by Joan (last edited Feb 05, 2017 06:34PM) (new)

Joan Sandra wrote: "Interesting article about gender and intelligence stereotypes:

Young Girls Are Less Apt To Think That Women Are Really, Really Smart

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-sh......"


VERY INTERESTING - this part really struck me as creative thinking, QUOTE:
"Girls, after all, were split about evenly in associating brilliance with their gender, she notes. The boys were more likely to make the association with their own gender.
So do girls need help in thinking more like the boys, or vice versa?
Cimpian says it's important not to fall into the trap of always assuming it's the girls who need to change." end quote


message 736: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Sandra wrote: "Interesting article about gender and intelligence stereotypes: Young Girls Are Less Apt To Think That Women Are Really, Really Smart http://www.npr.org/sections/health-sh......"

I received this report early in the week: (I think is connected)
https://www.theguardian.com/education...


message 737: by Sandra, Moderator (last edited Feb 05, 2017 06:23PM) (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments I think it is base in the same study, isn't it?

Joan, probably it is important to help girls to think they can be very smart, and also show boys girls can be very smart. It is the only way of making it "natural".
I found interesting how the stereotypes are reinforced in school, since the kids start learning about "important people" and it happens they are mostly man. It is important not only show female cases to them, but also explain that the disparity is not due to biological differences, but socio-cultural ones, since women weren't allow to do the same things than men.

There are 2 children's book I've read and can recommend:
Seven Brave Women
What Would It Be Like?


message 738: by Joan (last edited Feb 05, 2017 06:43PM) (new)

Joan I should have stressed that I was posting a quote from the article- accidental plagiarism, I promise : )

As you say Sandra, her point that boys show gender bias earlier than girls was important, I think. She said boys were more likely to say boys are brilliant but girls were evenly split on gender/ brilliance link.
Quote:
"Girls, after all, were split about evenly in associating brilliance with their gender, she notes. The boys were more likely to make the association with their own gender."


message 739: by Joan (new)

Joan Sandra wrote: "I think it is base in the same study, isn't it?

Joan, probably it is important to help girls to think they can be very smart, and also show boys girls can be very smart. It is the only way of maki..."


Thanks for the book recommendations, I will look at them and perhaps make a gift to my nieces' school. They teach at a poor inner city school so I pick up books for their classrooms.


message 740: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Wow. You guys have been gassing this weekend. I went down to Bournemouth for the weekend for the course I'm doing so wasn't logged in at all.

A belated happy Birthday Travis!

Great to catch up with you J'mom.

Is everyone recovered from the lurgy who had it?

I had another swimming lesson on Friday. I managed to swim a whole length unaided, doing breaststroke with head under water and no swallowing/choking on the water. I was very chuffed with myself. Now I just got to get some practice in and strengthen my legs as DOMS set in on Saturday night as I was just going to bed and I was in agony all night and couldn't sleep.


message 741: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Nice work Sarah!! I hate doms, he's jerk.

A couple of years ago, when I was at my last job at the national science museum, and doing my Masters (which I dropped out of), I used a data from a study that a work mat had already done for their teaching degree on the 2-6 year old program we ran at work. She developed it for Uni, and was evaluating it. I saw there was data and used it!

We live in the most highly educated city in Australia, and the richest. But still, taking out those confounding factors, 2/3 or the kids coming to this 2-6 year old program on science were boys. The city (I checked), had a 50-50 birth rate. The majority of parents were both university educated, and they were still choosing to bring their boys to a fortnightly science program. AND, the majority of girls coming was because they had an older brother coming.

We are telling girls at age 2-6, they can't be good at science and maths. That they SHOULDN'T be interested in science and maths. That's a boy thing.

It's disgusting.


message 742: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments I also looked at our advertising materials. We had 6 images. 1 had a girl in it.

After my assignment, they promptly brought the photographer in for more little girl images.


message 743: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments Sarah wrote: "Wow. You guys have been gassing this weekend. I went down to Bournemouth for the weekend for the course I'm doing so wasn't logged in at all.

A belated happy Birthday Travis!

Great to catch up wi..."


Well done with the swimming, Sarah! You are doing a great job!


message 744: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments That's great you were able to get them to think how they marketed those programs Rusalka. It is sad the assumptions people make and the beliefs we force on kids/others even if we aren't doing it maliciously.

Thanks guys for the swimming encouragement! I am already thinking that a nice holiday somewhere warm where there is a pool would be a great reward and I can practice my swimming while we're there. I have no money though at the moment so it might have to wait a while. I can think about it though.


message 745: by Joan (new)

Joan Russalka, fascinating - I wonder how it happens so early in their lives.


message 746: by KimeyDiann (new)

KimeyDiann | 2174 comments jaxnsmom wrote: "My main concern was mental health care, and it seemed no one really knew what that was. I actually had one guy ask me if my being bipolar was situational, and then told me that all depression was situational and not chemical. I told him in clear terms that he was a total ass and he should refer all calls to someone who knew what they were talking about."

As someone who suffers with clinical depression, I can't tell you how much this idiocy upsets me. Good for you putting him in his place. Hopefully he doesn't spout that garbage off to other people ever again.
Woo Woo's sound fantastic. Peach is one of my favorite flavors so I'll definitely be trying that!

@Joan, you simply must try limoncello. If you like lemon at all, you will love it.
@Rusalka, how do you make your limoncello? I made it at home once and it was pretty tasty when it was done. But I had a bottle that stayed in the back of the cabinet for a year or so, and letting it age for that long made it superb. I have no idea where my recipe is at but I'd like to try making it again.

Also on the subject of limoncello... on of my friends and I have birthdays a day apart. She is a fantastic baker and text me the other day that she has a recipe for limoncello cupcakes she's going to make for our bdays. Can't wait! :)


message 747: by KimeyDiann (new)

KimeyDiann | 2174 comments That really is fascinating about the gender stereotypes. I, too, wonder how it starts at such young ages. Does it start at home? The parents, even though both are highly intelligent, always carried that stereotype and then unknowingly passes it down to their kids?


message 748: by Joan (last edited Feb 06, 2017 09:04AM) (new)

Joan This is a long article but Interesting for anyone talking about gender differences in math and science.
why prejudice alone doesn't explain the gender gap
Summary of Psychologist Chris Martins article:
"The point of focusing on innate psychological differences is not to draw attention away from anti-female discrimination. The research clearly shows that such discrimination exists—among other things, women seem to be paid less for equal work. Nor does it imply that the sexes have nothing in common. Quite frankly, the opposite is true. Nor does it imply that women—or men—are blameworthy for their attributes.
Rather, the point is that anti-female discrimination isn’t the only cause of the gender gap. As we learn more about sex differences, we’ve built better theories to explain the non-identical distribution of the sexes among the sciences. Science is always tentative, but the latest research suggests that discrimination has a weaker impact than people might think, and that innate sex differences explain quite a lot. Neil deGrasse Tyson’s explanation, which admittedly wasn’t about gender in the first place, relies solely on the socialization model, a model that no longer holds water. To quote Campbell, “Evolution didn’t stop at the neck.” It affected our brains, differentiating the average man from the average woman."

The author recommends the web site of Anne Campbell an evolutionary psychologist.


message 749: by Travis (new)

Travis (travistousant) | 6011 comments Thanks Sarah

Well on quick overview I'd say you would all have liked the Audi Superbowl commercial basically raising a daughter to understand she can be anything and Audi is an equal employer.


message 750: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Travis of NNY wrote: "Thanks Rusalka and Lilisa.

Wild times Jmom. Assuming you were trying to meet the final days of ACA enrollment "


Yep. Now I have to hope I get a job with health benefits. I really would like to see some real info on what Trump plans to do.

Sarah - Great going on the swimming lessons!

KimeyD - My sister has a friend who makes a limoncello cake that she raves about.

I've seen several commercials focusing on STEM, but I'm trying to figure out how that translates to reality. Is the hope that parents see it and start exposing their daughters to the subjects or inspire them with what can be done within those areas? Or that girls who are old enough to understand will start asking questions?


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