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[[deleted user]]

Our preferences can play a role in our choices, but don't dominate who we are. Ever.

[[deleted user]]

I believe we are not but dust and shadows. Awaiting death to bring us back to what we truly are.

[Sammy]

~ •Åbby• ~ {Nico(Hades)} wrote: "I believe we are not but dust and shadows. Awaiting death to bring us back to what we truly are."

That was very poetic. Where did you steal that quote?

[Alyssa]

Nattie wrote: "Alyssa wrote: "Natalie wrote: "Brown wrote: "The beauty of hypocrisy is that it only makes PEOPLE less credible, not what they supposedly stand for.

So-called "Christians" who persecuted people we..."


"Being gay is an identity" that is what you said, that is the worst part of it, people use it as an identity, that is why i used the word excuse, cause it is, people use the excuse "i am gay, it is my identity" all the time.it is not an identity.saying i am an American is not an identity, it isn't what make you you, same as being gay does not define if you are kind or mean or sad, it is not an identity, it is a label, and there is a BIG difference.

[Matthew]

I've been refraining from commenting for a while, but against my better judgement. Sexual orientation is not a "preference." Sexual orientation, while not technically an identity, is PART of one's identity; it is fixed and cannot be changed. For example, I am straight. I cannot change that, no matter how much I'd (hypothetically) wish to be gay/bisexual/asexual/etc. Likewise, someone who is homosexual/bisexual/asexual and so on cannot make him/herself straight. Granted, LGBTQ+ people can be just as annoying/cruel/kind as anyone else, but that is independent of their sexual orientation, just as straight people can be any of those things.

[[deleted user]]

I used part of it from the infernal devices.

[[deleted user]]

Matthew wrote: "I've been refraining from commenting for a while, but against my better judgement. Sexual orientation is not a "preference." Sexual orientation, while not technically an identity, is PART of one's ..."


Matthew, I don't think you got the point of what I was saying.

I can't help it that blue is my favorite color either. I can't make myself like yellow more.

By its NATURE however, it is a preference.
And preferences don't RULE us (regardless of whether or not we're capable of changing them).

In fact we must put our preferences on hold all the time, because they are the least important of things.
If I put someone else's needs above my own, despite what I "prefer" this is not "hiding part of myself away." It's realizing what's more important than my own feelings or wants.

How can anyone base their IDENTITY on what is ultimately a preference? That is a terrible message in any event.

[[deleted user]]

All icing is good my friend. Blue or yellow.

[[deleted user]]

Wait. I thought you said icing...

[[deleted user]]

~ •Åbby• ~ {Nico(Hades)} wrote: "Wait. I thought you said icing..."

Abby, I think I agree with that statement. XD

[[deleted user]]

By preference, I mean it's just something that we "like."
I don't mean we have the ability to change WHAT we like.
I'm just saying that no matter what, the fact that we "like" it isn't the most important thing in the first place.

(just for clarification).

[[deleted user]]

*says in dramatic voice* It is our choices that make us who we truly are.

[Theseusjones]

Nattie wrote: "Theseusjones wrote: "I Also Really Hate The Fact That Rick Riordan Made Nico A Gay Character, He Was One Of My Favorite Characters Until Rick Made Him That Way. He Should Leave All Of The Bi-sexual..."
Whatever you meant by that, all I meant was that Rick Riordan shouldnt have had Nico's personality to be gay. I said that he should have had Nico believe in something else or something because he should try to teach kids that being gay is ok, not saying thats it right or wrong. Bisexual and gayness should be written down in Rick's Adult books and not books aiming at kids and teens. AND WHETHER YOU PEOPLE KNOW IT OR NOT THE DISNEY INDUSTRY ARE PROGRAMMING SEX AND BISEXUALITY BASED SUBJECTS IN YOUR MINDS. There are many hidden sexual images in Disney's movies
. This is just a thought and for y'all who don't believe me go the this link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR6pd...

[Matthew]

Brown wrote: "Matthew wrote: "I've been refraining from commenting for a while, but against my better judgement. Sexual orientation is not a "preference." Sexual orientation, while not technically an identity, i..."

I misread your point; sorry about that. It's just that sometimes people use "preference" to imply one's sexuality is a choice. I overreacted.

Theseusjones wrote: "Nattie wrote: "Theseusjones wrote: "I Also Really Hate The Fact That Rick Riordan Made Nico A Gay Character, He Was One Of My Favorite Characters Until Rick Made Him That Way. He Should Leave All O..."

Ah, the time-honored "this doesn't belong in a kid's book!" defense. To quote the relevant portion of the FAQ section of Riordan's website:

I’ve been lucky enough to teach all sorts of students – fifth grade to twelfth grade, rich and poor, from numerous ethnic backgrounds, with diverse religious traditions and a variety of learning differences. I’ve also taught gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students. Some self-identified as early as elementary school. Some came to terms with their sexual orientation later in high school. Most had a hard time during the middle grades, which are tough years for any child. All my middle school students enriched my classroom. They made me a better teacher and a better writer for children, and they all deserve my support.

I am committed to writing appropriate books for the middle grades. This means no bad language, no gratuitous or explicit violence, and no sexual content beyond what you might find in a PG-rated movie – expressions of who likes whom, holding hands, and perhaps the occasional kiss. The idea that we should treat sexual orientation itself as an adults-only topic, however, is absurd. Non-heterosexual children exist. To pretend they do not, to fail to recognize that they have needs for support and validation like any child, would be bad teaching, bad writing, and bad citizenship.

(my emphasis)

[Yasmeen]

I hated how Nico came out to Percy in Blood of Olympus. I support him, but I wish it was done differently and more privately...Am I the only one that feels that way?

[ekarifin]

I like Nico... well, I think it is just cool to say things like t that to the one you used has a crush on... it is just funny to see Percy speechless lol... Percy never speechless...

[ekarifin]

I like Nico... well, I think it is just cool to say things like t that to the one you used has a crush on... it is just funny to see Percy speechless lol... Percy never speechless...

[Nat]

Yasmeen wrote: "I hated how Nico came out to Percy in Blood of Olympus. I support him, but I wish it was done differently and more privately...Am I the only one that feels that way?"

I didn't mind it that much. I guess making it into a big deal would mean it's a big deal when Nico has moved on. I can see what you mean though!

[Blogger]

Ermm...Merry Christmas?! Carry on

[Sammy]

Merry Christmas! To everyone. Not just to those who have the same race, age, sex, or opinion as me.

[[deleted user]]

Happy Holidays. :)

[Nat]

I hope everyone had an amazing Christmas :3

[Sammy]

Hope you did too, Natti!

[Sammy]

*Nattie

[Sammy]

*Nattie

[[deleted user]]

Matthew wrote: "Brown wrote: "Matthew wrote: "I've been refraining from commenting for a while, but against my better judgement. Sexual orientation is not a "preference." Sexual orientation, while not technically ..."

Matthew, I really think that was more of a red herring than anything, to be honest. Most of the points on this thread seem to be.
Remember when someone called me prejudice because I used the word muslim? You guys need to lighten up and be a little more fair and open to what people are really saying.

You'll find there are less "hateful" and "judgmental" people out there than you think. Just people looking for truth, who might have a couple valid points if you didn't write them off. We're talking about tolerance, right?

[[deleted user]]

If anybody gets anything out of what I've been saying on this thread at all, I hope it's to not unfairly write people off as "hateful" or "a bully" or "ignorant" without FAIRLY trying to hear them out as a person, for what they're sincerely saying and not what you want to hear. No matter WHICH side they're on.

[Alyssa]

Bianca (aka Leah) wrote: "Sammy wrote: "No I just looked up biosexual and this is what it means- Noun. A biophiliac, one who gets aroused by nature.
I mean that would make since to add that in your post @Leah. Although I d..."
It's bisexual not biosexual.

[Alyssa]

Bianca (aka Leah) wrote: "Alyssa wrote: "Bianca (aka Leah) wrote: "Sammy wrote: "No I just looked up biosexual and this is what it means- Noun. A biophiliac, one who gets aroused by nature.
I mean that would make since to ..."
sorry

[Silver Lining]

After I read it I thought "How could I have possibly missed this ?". Rick Riordan is a genius and no, I didn't see it coming at all. Way to go !

[Theseusjones]

Uhhhh

[Theseusjones]

Titan Curse Movie?

[Bianca.Aka.Leah2]

Hey doubt any of u remember me but im back on gr again.

[Theseusjones]

Yea,I Doubt They'll Respond, They Probably Left And Forgot

[Dora]

What I don't understand is that we can allow children (especially little girls) watch animated movies where they promote sexist ideals like a girl cannot believe herself to be remotely useful or significant without being beside a man, ultimately reducing our selfesteem both as women and human beings allowing us to act as dysfunctional citizens yet we cannot allow children to understand that love can come in all ages, genders, colors and/or religions. Looks or even reproductive organs are skin-deep. I don't get why people are mad for this; homosexuality isn't something rated M, its a preference. In the same way we do not make a fuss on showing little kids movies about love and sexism, why can't we afford to teach them that human beings love with the heart, not the gender? The same way a girl can love a guy or the same way a guy can love girl is the same. IT'S THE FRICKING 21ST CENTURY PEOPLE! It's a time of mental evolution, a time where we do not need to view who we should love or to what extent we are allowed to love based on similar chromosones or different pigments, etc. There is ENOUGH hate in this world and excuses to judge every single being on the planet, but why spend our time judging OTHER PEOPLES' preferences when you can try to adapt to your own? This is a book that promotes a LOT of reality in it: Most characters and their parental (among other) issues are extremely real and important for children to understand so they are informed of what to expect out of life. Nico's orientation was a brilliant move because it explains and affiliates a lot of his behaviors into perspective. It's not a mistake to be so loving as to accept all genders to love them, it's an ability. One that not many people possess (obviously). The writer's choice to add a dose of reality and understanding about controversial topics the world faces was a very brave, smart and necessary move. There is no need to lash out on him for bringing homosexual preferences into a book for all ages. Nico's feelings for Percy and then Will went deeper than simple sex or lust, it was pure admiration and gratitude and genuine care for the other person. THAT is love. Love isn't stories of people who misunderstand the world love for lust, however straight they might be. Love isn't the ability to love people of the different sex or accept their partner for what they do or that other romantic but fake bull people say. REAL love is the ability to care so much for someone that it precedes all norms, all laws, and all discrimination. Primitive views that belong to the middle ages, leave them there. Or at least don't try dragging books of the 21st century back to the middle ages, because no one from that time can appreciate the amount of pain this book carries, or the amount of love. If you're too narrow minded to understand equality concepts, then don't bother reading the book. Simple as that, but when it comes to love remember: the same way you can admire (and make your baby siblings join in on the fancy) people who sell their bodies to the media or people who rely on a prince to have a happily ever after, in the same way you can afford to accept a boy who has gone through pain and wants to live a happy life with someone he loves (if Nico can be so open minded to love a boy, why can't you?

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I agree.

[Matthew]

Dora wrote: "What I don't understand is that we can allow children (especially little girls) watch animated movies where they promote sexist ideals like a girl cannot believe herself to be remotely useful or si..."

I agree with most of what you said, except for calling sexual orientation a "preference," because that implies it's a choice, while in actuality it isn't. Just a pet peeve of mine.

[Dora]

Matthew wrote: "Dora wrote: "What I don't understand is that we can allow children (especially little girls) watch animated movies where they promote sexist ideals like a girl cannot believe herself to be remotely..."

Right, scratch preference, call it an ummmmm birth inhibited fancy? Idk I made that up, but still I get your point and I agree with you as well

[Greta]

whoa.
This is how I write when i get angry
i mean what you wrote

[Greta]

whoa.
This is how I write when i get angry
i mean what you wrote

[Kevin]

Lol this is still up.

Any of you read the last book? (I didn't read it)
You can spoil all you want. Not going to read it.....
Does Leo get Calypso? Or does he die in a blaze of glory?

[Matthew]

Kevin wrote: "Lol this is still up.

Any of you read the last book? (I didn't read it)
You can spoil all you want. Not going to read it.....
Does Leo get Calypso? Or does he die in a blaze of glory?"

(view spoiler)[Both. (hide spoiler)] (I put a spoiler tag in case anyone who does want to read it sees the post)

[Kevin]

Matthew wrote: "(view spoiler) (I put a spoiler tag in case anyone who..."

Typical Rick. Let me guess, (view spoiler)[ she(Calypso) also sacrifices herself for a guys she JUST met(known Percy longer), and she and Leo are in the fields living happily ever after. Like that traitorous bitch and her lover in the Olympus books (hide spoiler)] Am I right or am I right?

Please tell me Piper dies.

[Matthew]

Kevin wrote: "Matthew wrote: "(view spoiler) (I put a spoiler tag in case anyone who..."

Typical Rick. Let me guess, [spoilers removed] Am I right or am I right?

Please tell me Piper dies."

(view spoiler)[Wrong on all counts, actually: Leo dies, but thanks to the work of Asclepius (the god/demigod son of Apollo who once raised the dead and was struck by Zeus's bolt in retaliation; he's in back in business in a parody of American health care), he comes back to life and rides off with Calypso on a rebuilt Festus (yeah, the cheesy sentiment is the same as in your prediction). Piper lives. (hide spoiler)]

[Dora]

gretakirsch wrote: "whoa.
This is how I write when i get angry
i mean what you wrote"

Thanks I guess? And the posts cursing Nico for his sexuality got me fired up

[Amber]

lol so many comments

[[deleted user]]

Teaching kids that "love" is about two people worshiping each other IS wrong. (No matter what their sexes).
Homosexuality makes the means the end. Romantic love leads to marriage and being open to a family. Not a selfish game between two people, which is all homosexuality can ever be.
Telling people this is the important thing is the real hate.
Rick Riordan portrays love in a very corny, shallow way in all his couples. He makes the means the end. It's not just about being cute together and holding hands because you have a feeling. (And if so, it is absolutely NOT important compared to the sacrificial love between a husband and wife). These books are a waste of time if you are looking to them for ideals. People deserve better than this...
Teenager relationships are a waste of time anyway. Everything about this is so dumb.

[[deleted user]]

By the way, how do you define hate?
It's a little close-minded to always call it hate just because someone disagrees with you, don't you think? Or maybe the 11 year olds who commented 5 years ago on this thread just weren't expressing themselves that great over a fictional character? Lighten up. People who love to see hate always will.

[Dora]

Brown wrote: "Teaching kids that "love" is about two people worshiping each other IS wrong. (No matter what their sexes).
Homosexuality makes the means the end. Romantic love leads to marriage and being open to ..."

They don't WORSHIP each other: love and worshiping are different definitions (in both gay and straight cases). For "selfish game" between homosexuals, half the heterosexual race is doing pretty much the same thing but they don't get the discrimination homosexuals get, do they? You have your own beliefs and opinions on homosexual and/or heterosexual relationships, but it is yet another thing to label the gay community of what they do with their love and how "selfish" they act compared to other people. It is immature to tell other people how to live their life, to each their own. And if you resent the books so much and can't find any ideals in them wtf are you reading them then?!

[Hannah]

I did not see it coming at all! Nico has always been my favorite character and him "coming out" in the book series doesn't change my opinions about him at all. I am happy that Rick wrote a happier end for him where it hints that he has a new life ahead of him with more friends...and potential romances. Poor Nico didn't catch a break until the last book in the spin off! It's ABOUT TIME the boy had something good happen to him. *Sigh* I just wish Rick would write a short story about him or something so I can see what happened to him after the series ended. I think that it is great that Rick is writing gay characters because all demographics should be represented not just straight people. Now younger kids who are gay/lesbian will have book characters to look up to as well! I hope in the future when I'm older that all books have gay/lesbian/bi/straight characters represented. Haters can hate all they want because times are changing and someday people will feel bad for every being homophobic or having homophobic thoughts.