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Which book did you enjoy more P&P or Wuthering Heights?
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But yeah, I do think Wuthering Heights has become bogged down by its reputation as a "tragic gothic romance". I guess the tragic romance aspect of Wuthering Heights has been its most marketable aspect. I guess it aint so bad as what Hollywood did to Shelley's Frankenstein.

Agree.

I couldn't stand Heathcliff's violence.


Life isn't always supposed to have fairy-tale endings, and I feel Emily Bronte was wise in not resorting to that cliché in WH. The succeeding generation were the ones who learnt from the mistakes of the previous, they would redeem that bitterness and madness. It was a converging of the classes so to speak.

The consequences of WH are a different nature to P&P, you won't see Officer Smith knocking on Heathcliff's door and warranting an arrest because he intruded Thrushcross Grange, that would go against what Wuthering Heights is about, and the world Emily Bronte conceived.
There are most certainly consequences for the characters actions, but I don't think EB was concerned about little minor consequences, hers was more a concern in the grand scheme of things. Spiritual could be a word for it.


On the surface Wuthering Heights seems wild, uninhibited and pulling no punches, but the many themes and criticisms are interwoven brilliantly, they go over many people's heads. And she achieves this in an isolated setting mind you! A vast complexity is captured within the space of two houses. No attending balls, military officers to lust after, overbearing mothers. Jane Austen had a society to work with, people to bring in, places to go.
I think to express what Bronte did, in a confined setting, to give it life, vastness and realism, even in an almost alien setting. It's pretty damn special.





Pride and Prejudice - I read it again every year.



I just recently read Pride and Prejudice for the first time. I wanted to like it - so many people had told me how much they loved it and how often they re-read it. I just did not enjoy it.
Wuthering Heights I read back in high school, but did not enjoy it either.

Interestingly, the first movie adaptation of Wuthering Heights in 1920 doesn't mention anything about it being a great romance or love story in the tagline. It seems to feel that the theme of revenge was most predominant:


You're right, it's far more interesting to think about WH as you suggest. Heathcliff was obsessed with Cathy, but that is more about getting even than it is about love.

Pride and Prejudice, on the other hand, makes for an uplifting read, as it were. Smoothly we can ease to the happy ending our heart has wished for. When it comes to grammatical structures, both writers have made the best of their linguistic skills. Notwithstanding, there is no denying that the Brontes had an eye for detail and the knack to depict it in words.




I think it's a useless comparaison. Austen writes you and your cousins going to a tea party in a witty and emotionally subtle way. Her nove..."
Interesting. These are two brilliant artists with two very different attitudes toward life and characters. We don't, or at least not altogether, create our own attitudes; circumstances and influences beyond our control are involved. I think my enjoyment depends a lot on the aspects of life, the thoughts and feelings, that interest me and draw me to this or that book at a given time.

Pride and Prejudice for the humour and social satire.
Wuthering Heights for the darkness, passion and brooding hate. And because Joseph speaks my language, or at least my grand-parents' language.


That's what makes it so revolutionary. We don't get the usual bed of roses view of love. And that's fascinating. It's definitely one of my favorite books.

I love this novel every time I re-read it (and for me, the first read may have been at 11 or 12). Bronte subverts the Victorian female ideal, which has hung over us like a hungry stupid ghost for yea these many decades. Though Jane believes in love and duty, she is a self-determined female who knows people like Brocklehurst and her adopted Aunt are tyrannical liars holding on to unearned status. She learns a lot about what she wants and doesn't want during her separation from Rochester; mainly, that she loves him warts and all and though St. John is much more admirable, he is dry and prim in all his perfection, so she doesn't marry him though many would advise that she prefer him to R. Yes, that's romantic but many could say love is simply that: romantic.

Reading Wuthering Heights is like watching a spectacle, all grand operatic passions, mesmerizing to watch. But Cathy and Heathcliff are both so hateful I can't sympathize with them, and other characters that I feel some pity for are so blindly stupid I can't help feeling that they get what they deserve. So for all the passions of the characters I have little emotional investment in the story.
When I read Pride and Prejudice, I am completely invested in what will happen to Lizzie and Darcy (even though, after multiple re-readings I already know).


I have to say thank you. This may be the first time I've ever heard anyone speak of (write of) these books with the same feelings I have. Pride and Prejudice and Jane Eyre are probably my favorite books. I would throw Wuthering Heights against a wall but my aim is so bad, I'd break a window. I have read Wuthering Heights more times than I wanted too because people whose opinion I value tell me it is wonderful. I just cannot get past the personalities.
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