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May 01, 2009 11:46PM
Laura & Fi, what happens if you listen to an audio for a book, how many pages would you could that ladies?
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Fiona wrote: "Laura & Fi, what happens if you listen to an audio for a book, how many pages would you could that ladies?"I think that they are going with the most popular book editions page count for every book read. So whatever edition comes up first in a search is the one that's used for the page-read count, even the the edition read was different. I think that's fair though. :)
Thanks Becky. Could I look at the book I have for it and go by what pages that had, as I just felt like listening to the audio instead of reading the book?
Fiona wrote: "Thanks Becky. Could I look at the book I have for it and go by what pages that had, as I just felt like listening to the audio instead of reading the book?"I don't think so. I think they are counting the most popular editions pages regardless of the edition of the book you actually read, and not just for audio and ebooks. It makes it fair across the board, because the edition I read could have 500 pages, but the edition someone else reads could only have 430 or something.
So you would have to look up the page count for the book in GR database, and whichever edition comes up first is the one you'd go by.
Becky, do you know if Goodnight Mister Tom is suitable for 5.4 hon?
Fiona wrote: "Becky, do you know if Goodnight Mister Tom is suitable for 5.4 hon?"From reading the description, I would say so. The mother/son relationship seems to be a major factor in the story, so I'd think it would count toward 5.4.
Thanks for mentioning that one too, it looks really good! :)
I'm off to bed now... G'night all!
Becky Said: I didn't list all of the books by the authors I found, or all of the authors, but this is a pretty good list to start with, right? :) Becky you are Awesome!!! thanks for the suggestions..I am going to change my 30.3 to Beauty. :~)
Fiona wrote: "Goodnight Mr Tom is a brilliant book Samantha. The film was good too, quite true to the book though it missed a lot out but nothing important. "I'm glad it didn't miss out anything important. I may see if my local library has a copy of the book.
Woohoo I got my list all done...Thanks to Laura for the help with the 10.1 task and Becky for the 30.3 and 20.5. You ladies are awesome!!!Now to get all that reading done. :~)
What does your list look like, Lisa?
It's up above...message 214. :~)
To add to that fairy tales re-told list (in case you don't have enough to choose from ;):Wildwood Dancing - Juliet Marillier (Twelve Dancing Princesses)
Princess of the Midnight Ball - Jessica Day George (same again)
A Curse Dark as Gold - Elizabeth C. Bunce (Rumplestiltskin)
The Goose Girl - Shannon Hale (The Goose Girl)
The Swan Kingdom - Zoe Marriot (The Children of Lir)
Fairest - Gail Carson Levine (Snow White)
Well...*I* think it is, Heather! Hope you enjoy it :)
Wow. I need to work on picking my books.
I can't choose all my books at once because I tend to change my mind too much, so I'm going to pick mine one section at a time. Here's my choices for the 30 point tasks:30.1 :
What I Saw And How I Lied(National Book Award--US) and Tamar A Novel of Espionage, Passion, and Betrayal (Carnegie Medal--UK).
30.2: The Graveyard Book(yay!).
30.3: Fairest
Thank you so much, Josie, for the list of retold fairy tales. I was worried about finding one for that category!
Alisha wrote: "Okay, I have a question. In those tasks that you are supposed to write your opinion of the book (like the award task and the watch the movie/read the book task), do you write your opinion in here ..."We'd like to keep the other thread strictly for points and the leader board to minimize confusion, Alisha, so you would list the task number, such as 20.1, and your opinion here.
Jamie wrote: "Just to confirm, Pride and Prejudice is acceptable as a YA book for the challenge? Also, I was wondering how many books you all are planning to incorporate into the challenge that are re-reads? I..."
P&P is acceptable for the challenge and re-reads are acceptable, as stated in the Ground Rules.
However - as stated previously, you can only re-read any one book for one task. You can not re-read it more than once during May - July and use it for 2 different tasks.
Thanks for putting together this awesome challenge. I've never done one before but this seems perfect for me right now. I even started Sun and Moon, Ice and Snow by Jessica Day George last night, which works for a retold fairy tale.
Lisa wrote: "Thank you Becky for that link...so for task 30.3 can I read Wicked?"Yes, we'll consider the Wizard of Oz a fairy tale for the purposes of this task.
Lisa - Just looking quickly at your list, task 25.2 calls for two books, and I only see one in your list. I'm answering these questions in order, so if you've addressed this later on and I haven't seen it yet, disregard.Becky - Thanks for posting the list of fairytale retellings. Also a note - we're going to stretch and call Wizard of Oz a fairytale in the spirit of trying to allow everyone lots of flexibility and freedom in this challenge.
Laura wrote: "P&P is acceptable for the challenge and re-reads are acceptable, as stated in the Ground Rules.However - as stated previously, you can only re-read any one book for one task. You can not re-read it more than once during May - July and use it for 2 different tasks. "
Thanks, Laura. I hadn't planned on reading the same book for more than one task, but it doesn't feel quite right to have 8 books that I'll be re-reading, you know? I'm still contemplating.
Becky wrote: "Beauty - Robin McKinley (Beauty and the Beast)Spindle's End - Robin McKinley (Sleeping Beauty)
Before Midnight - Cameron Dokey (Cinderella)
Beauty Sleep - Cameron Dokey (Sleeping Beauty)
Golden - ..."
It's a great list, Becky, thanks again for posting that.
Fiona wrote: "Laura & Fi, what happens if you listen to an audio for a book, how many pages would you could that ladies?"Hi Titch - as someone suggested early on, pull up the title on Goodreads, and for the first actual "book" listing of that title that comes up, use the number of pages shown there as your number of pages read for that book.
30 Point Tasks1. The Golden Compass and Stardust
2. Anne of Green Gables
3. Beastly (Beauty and the Beast Retelling)
25 Point Tasks
1. What Happened to Cass McBride? (Mystery); Memoirs of a Teenage Amnesiac (Contemporary); School's Out - Forever (Action/Adventure)
2. TBD
3. Secret Keeper
4. Abarat, Book 1 Abarat; Abarat Days of Magic, Nights of War
20 Point Tasks
2. TBD
3. The Thief Lord
4. The Truth About Forever (younger sis born in 2004)
5. The Sweet Far Thing
10 Point Tasks
1. A Curse Dark as Gold
2. Rebel Angels (5 star book from (G)Emma's Bookshelf)
3. The Book Thief
4. How I Live Now
5 Point Tasks
1. Graceling
2. To Kill a Mockingbird
3. Eragon (recommended by 15 year old cousin
4. Donorboy A Novel
I read The Princess Diaries last night for 20.1 and watched the movie afterward. And I have to say that the whole "the books are always better than the movie" doesn't really apply to this (in my opinion, of course). While I thought that the book was cute and funny, I just thought the movie was so much better. Oddly enough, I felt that the characters were more fleshed out in the movie than in the book. The supporting characters, that is. Mia was fleshed out plenty in the novel (since it was in a diary format), but characters like Joseph (Lars in the book) and Clarisse (Grandmere in the book) were just better on screen. Even a minor character (both in the movie and the book) like Principal Gupta was done better in the movie. Two minute scene-stealers like that just translate better to film then to a book (in most cases).
So, I definitely preferred the movie to the book. Don't get me wrong, I thought the book was also great and funny (there's this one part where Mia is describing Grandmere's makeup in the book that had me laughing for at least five straight minutes) and I'm looking forward to picking up the rest of the books. It's just that the movie is near and dear to my heart since it was one of my favorite movies as a preteen and re-watching it again didn't make it lose any of the love I had for it when I originally watched it.
Total Points: 20/350
Total Pages: 283
I knew that someone else had posted a list of retold fairy tale books but I couldn't find it (I didn't have my contacts in yet so I didn't want to start scrolling all over the place). Anyway, thanks for putting that one up too, Becky.
Do not worry, Fiona. I did, it's just that Laura said to write your opinions in here. :)And you should definitely read The Princess Diaries (even though, you have a thing against pink and fluffy. Don't worry I sort of do, too). It was a cute story.
30 POINT TASKS:1. Carnegie Medal 2005 Tamar A Novel of Espionage, Passion, and Betrayal and 2007 Alex Awards The Book of Lost Things
2. Anne of Green Gables
3. The Fairy Godmother
25 POINT TASKS:
1.Eon Dragoneye Reborn or Firebirds Soaring An Anthology of Original Speculative Fiction (Fantasy), Secrets of the Tudor Court The Pleasure Palace (Historical), Airman (Action/Adventure)
2. Warrior Princess and Fool Moon
3. Alis (may change)
4. Uglies, Pretties
20 POINT TASKS:
1. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
2.
3. I want to go to Ireland - The Escape From Home
4. The Hero and the Crown- 1984 my birth year
5. Wildwood Dancing
10 POINT TASKS:
1. Lament The Faerie Queen's Deception
2. The Mysterious Benedict Society - Alethea rated it 5 stars
3. The Angel Experiment
4. The Name of the Wind Alex Awards 2008
5 POINT TASKS:
1. Graceling
2. The Secret Garden
3. The Amber Spyglass
4. TBD
Now I think I need to take back some unread library books and get these... I'll be library hopping today. Thank god for reciprocal borrowing in IL.
I'm struggling on the find a book that was published the year you were born. so if anyone has any ideas for 1985, let me know...thanks a bunch
Jennifer wrote: "I'm struggling on the find a book that was published the year you were born. so if anyone has any ideas for 1985, let me know...thanks a bunch "If you check out the Awards thread, Jennifer, many of the award-winning books are listed by year. NOTE though, that often a book that won in the year 1985 was actually published in 1984, so check those to make sure - if you decide to take one from there.
My other suggestion is to view your shelves in list format and you can organize it by publication date. I also looked at other members lists to find mine and organized it the same way to find the correct year.
Laura Said: Lisa - Just looking quickly at your list, task 25.2 calls for two books, and I only see one in your list. LOL I did not read the TWO part of that task...LOL I'll do it again and find another book for it. Also I switched Wicked out for Beauty. :~)
What are the qualifications for a Classical YA/Juvennile book? Are you going by publication year, or are there other qualifications to make it Classical? Just checking. Thanks!
Never really thought about it - I have an undefined image in my head of what a 'classic' is.You wanna field this one Fiona?
So, as long as it was published before 1950, I'm ok? I have a few in mind, and wasn't sure where they would fit, but that works! Thanks!!
5 POINT TASKS: 1. Choose any book from our “Top YA Novels” thread not posted by you and read it. Where am I lookin for this please ladies?
Need suggestions for the following please:10 POINT TASKS:
1. Read a new book by a new YA author (meaning it was the first book published by that author, and it was published in 2008 or 2009).
Here is mine for now:30.1:
30.2: The Graveyard - Neil Gaiman
30.3: Beauty - Robin McKinley
25.1:
25.2: Will look at library on Tuesday
25.3: Will look at library on Tuesday
25.4: Northern Lights & The Subtle Knife - Philip Pullman (both audios)
20.1: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - J.K. Rowling (Audio)
20.2: Lord of the Rings - J.K.K. Tolkien (Audio)
20.3: TBD
20.4: The Amber Spyglass - Philip Pullman (DD born in 1999)
20.5: Will look at library on Tuesday
10.1: ?
10.2: I Capture The Castle - Dodie Smith (Fiona recommendation)
10.3: Twilight - Stephenie Meyer
10.4: Speak - Laurie Halse Anderson
5.1: Coraline by Neil Gaiman
5.2: The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
5.3: Little Women - Louisa May Alcott
5.4: Goodnight Mister Tom - Michelle Magorian
For books by a new author - I keep copying this message down from prior pages, hope it's helpful.http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/yalsa/...
Fiona's posted a link to the Morris Award in the Awards section, but there it is. This award is specifically for new YA authors, and it was first awarded in 2009. There are several to choose from, including the winner and the finalists.
Fiona, I'm reading Lament the Faerie Queen's Deception. It was her first book published last year.
Here's my list! *drumroll*Total Points: 0/350
Total Pages: 0/9272
30.1- a) The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman (Newbery Award US) 312 pg; b)Watership Down by Richard Adams (Carnegie Award UK) 496 pg
30.2- Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery 320 pg
30.3- The Devil's Arithmetic by Jane Yolen (based on an actual event) 176 pg
25.1- a) Airman by Eoin Colfer (Action/Adventure) 432 pg; b) The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame (Classic) 240 pg; c) Blue is for Nightmares by Laurie Faria Stolarz (Fantasy) 283 pg
25.2- a) Sold by Patricia McCormick 263 pg; b) Obernewtyn by Isobelle Carmody 256 pg
25.3- A Great and Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray 416 pg
25.4- Rebel Angels 592 pg and The Sweet Far Thing by Libba Bray 832 pg
20.1- To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee 336 pg
20.2- The Book Thief by Markus Zusak 552 pg
20.3- Artemis Fowl: The Lost Colony by Eoin Colfer (Set in Ireland, which I've always wanted to visit) 400 pg
20.4- Annie On My Mind by Nancy Garden (Born in 1982) 234 pg
20.5- The Book of Lost Things by John Connolly 339 pg
10.1- Graceling by Kristin Cashore (New YA author, pub 2008) 471 pg
10.2- Howl's Moving Castle by Dianna Wynne Jones (Fiona's push of course) 329 pg
10.3- The Lightning Thief (Percy Jackson and the Olympians) by Rick Riordan 377 pg
10.4- Sounder by William Armstrong (Newbery Award 1970) 128 pg
5.1- Coraline by Neil Gaiman (#8 Added by Beth) 192 pg
5.2- I Capture The Castle by Dodie Smith 352 pg
5.3- The Wakefields of Sweet Valley (Sweet Valley Saga) by Francine Pascal 352 pg
5.4- Little Women by Louisa May Alcott 592 pg
Laura, If I want to use Maus 1 & 2 instead for task 30.3 (since it says the book can be a fairytale retelling or a book based on a real event) would that be ok? Also, what happens if there is no page number listed for a book on GR?
Sounds fine, Becky.If there is no GR page number, then I would say go to http://www.amazon.com and whatever the first listing for the book is there - use that number of pages.
Sound good?
Laura wrote: "Sounds fine, Becky.If there is no GR page number, then I would say go to http://www.amazon.com and whatever the first listing for the book is there - use that number of pages.
Sound good?"
Yep!! I'm off to B&N to buy Maus right now! :D
My list has changed so drastically; I am going to rewrite the list here and delete the first list.30-POINT TASKS
1. Summer of the Swans - Newbury - US
The Haunting - Carnegie - UK
2. Anne of Green Gables
3. The Goose Girl
25-POINT TASKS
1. Christy - Christian Lit
Catcher in the Rye - Contemporary
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn - Classical
2. TBA
3. When the Legends Die
4. Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants
The Second Summer of the Sisterhood
20-POINT TASKS
1. The Princess Bride
2. Little House on the Prairie
3. The Wizard of Oz
4. The Invisible Man
5. The Earth, My Butt, and Other Round Things
10-POINT TASKS
1. A Curse Dark As Gold
2. I Capture the Castle
3. To Kill a Mockingbird
4. Walk Two Moons
5-POINT TASKS
1. I Am the Messenger
2. The Secret Garden
3. The Wind in the Willows
4. Tropical Kiss
Total points: 0/350
I am not going to change it again.
Hey again...thanks for your help...I'm totally going to be checking those out
Updated:Total Points: 0/350
Total Pages: 0/9400
30.1- a) The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman (Newbery Award US) 312 pg
b)Watership Down by Richard Adams (Carnegie Award UK) 496 pg
30.2- Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery 320 pg
30.3- Maus I & II (based on an actual event: Holocaust) 304 pg
25.1- a) Airman by Eoin Colfer (Action/Adventure) 432 pg
b) The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame (Classic) 240 pg
c) Blue is for Nightmares by Laurie Faria Stolarz (Fantasy) 283 pg
25.2- a) Sold by Patricia McCormick 263 pg
b) Obernewtyn by Isobelle Carmody 256 pg
25.3- A Great and Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray 416 pg
25.4- a)Rebel Angels by Libba Bray 592 pg
b)The Sweet Far Thing by Libba Bray 832 pg
20.1- To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee 336 pg
20.2- The Book Thief by Markus Zusak 552 pg
20.3- Artemis Fowl: The Lost Colony by Eoin Colfer (Set in Ireland, which I've always wanted to visit) 400 pg
20.4- Annie On My Mind by Nancy Garden (Born in 1982) 234 pg
20.5- The Book of Lost Things by John Connolly 339 pg
10.1- Graceling by Kristin Cashore (New YA author, pub 2008) 471 pg
10.2- Howl's Moving Castle by Dianna Wynne Jones (Fiona's push of course) 329 pg
10.3- The Lightning Thief (Percy Jackson and the Olympians) by Rick Riordan 377 pg
10.4- Sounder by William Armstrong (Newbery Award 1970) 128 pg
5.1- Coraline by Neil Gaiman (#8 Added by Beth) 192 pg
5.2- I Capture The Castle by Dodie Smith 352 pg
5.3- The Wakefields of Sweet Valley (Sweet Valley Saga) by Francine Pascal 352 pg
5.4- Little Women by Louisa May Alcott 592 pg
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