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message 101: by mc (new)

mc | 1308 comments Hj, I don't think even our beloved Adrien English could make this reading palatable. I keep re-reading paragraphs in the Adorno and Horkheimer article, wondering if it is in English, and if so, whether or not I actually speak English, or if that's something I've made up in my head.


message 102: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments mc wrote: "Hj, I don't think even our beloved Adrien English could make this reading palatable. I keep re-reading paragraphs in the Adorno and Horkheimer article, wondering if it is in English, and if so, wh..."

I can't help you with them, I'm afraid!! Have you tried reading it aloud? I find that helps when I'm trying to make sense of something, and to keep my concentration.


message 103: by mc (new)

mc | 1308 comments Help me, Hj. Help me:

"Through the deity speech is transformed from tautology into language. The concept, usually defined as the unity of the features of what it subsumes, was rather, from the first, a product of dialectical thinking, in which each thing is what it is only by becoming what it is not."

I think I get it. I get it. Then it slips through my fingers like mercury.


message 104: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments mc wrote: "Help me, Hj. Help me:

"Through the deity speech is transformed from tautology into language. The concept, usually defined as the unity of the features of what it subsumes, was rather, from the fi..."


Sorry, I was asleep. Am I still asleep? Is this a nightmare?

In other words: uhh?


message 105: by Calathea (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments mc wrote: "Help me, Hj. Help me:

"Through the deity speech is transformed from tautology into language. The concept, usually defined as the unity of the features of what it subsumes, was rather, from the fi..."


I read one Adorno essay long time ago. I'm still suffering the after-effects. ;)


message 106: by mc (new)

mc | 1308 comments I have to compare this essay to another writer we've read in the course thus far. I keep highlighting passages to use in the essay and then going back and having no idea what it means or why I highlighted it!

The Foucault piece is more comprehensible, but it doesn't work for me as one of the points of comparison.

Here's another gem:

"But a true praxis capable of overturning the status quo depends on theory’s refusal to yield to the oblivion in which society allows thought to ossify. "

I understand each specific word. I understand many of the words in relation to each other. I then say oh, I get this sentence, let me highlight it because it will be a good example....and then I come back to it and I'm lost again. (Na it IS like math - calculus!)


message 107: by Reggie (new)

Reggie I bet it makes better sense with the medicinal use of marijuana.;)


message 108: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments Na wrote: "Society allows thought to ossify in oblivion ?"

Well of course it does!! :) I bet mc wishes that society had allowed the thoughts of Adorno and Horkheimer to ossify into oblivion.


message 109: by Calathea (last edited Apr 16, 2013 06:55AM) (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments You can only overthrow status quo if you put enough energy into remembering that you wanted to overthrow it in the first place??

Hu? O.O

(Na it IS like math - calculus!)

Math is way easier! ;)

One good thing, though. I learned a new word! "ossify" I'll make sure to use it in one of my next posts.:)


message 110: by mc (new)

mc | 1308 comments Reggie, that's a good point. Perhaps I need a study aid.

I can't believe I'm saying but it's easier to understand aspects of my physics class than this.

The issue isn't even understanding everything - it's being able to use it effectively in a compare and contrast essay with another writer.

But you've all made me chuckle so much that it's worth it!


message 111: by Katharina (new)

Katharina | 656 comments mc wrote: "I have to compare this essay to another writer we've read in the course thus far. I keep highlighting passages to use in the essay and then going back and having no idea what it means or why I high..."

LOL, with the first one I'm totally out of my depth, the second one makes sense, though, I think. I'd say he wants to say that change is only possible if theory stays firm against the trend of society as a whole to be stagnant in thought and manners. Or am I wrong?


message 112: by Katharina (last edited Apr 16, 2013 07:53AM) (new)

Katharina | 656 comments mc wrote: "Reggie, that's a good point. Perhaps I need a study aid.

I can't believe I'm saying but it's easier to understand aspects of my physics class than this.

The issue isn't even understanding everyt..."


I love maths and physics, and per se a lot of it is way easier to understand than many philosophs' phrases (mainly because maths and physics make sense - and that isn't something you could say about all philosophs out there ;D).

But as soon as MATHEMATICIANS try to lay down the law in scientific papers on when do use what procedures and formulas and how... well, let's just put it this way: my husband has just published a textbook on statistics (and you could call him pretty proficient in the field of applied statistics) and he usually mourns in despair when reading a statistics paper. And sometimes just gives up understanding them altogether.

...I'd take a philosopher (ANY philosopher, even the completely crazy ones) over that any day... ;-D

...although I'd totally prefer to be left alone by both, LOL


message 113: by Katharina (new)

Katharina | 656 comments Na wrote: "I interpret the last quote more by 'knowledge/history is the key'.

To overturn the status quo depends on theory's refusal to yield to oblivion.

To forget. To let ourselves forget. To refuse ours..."


Yep, that makes sense, but to me the part 'in which society allows thought to ossify' is important, too. So, we should not forget because otherwise our thoughts become stagnant and no change can arise. That's how I thought it was meant...


message 114: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "I don't exactly know why I was so nervous to share the poem... it's not like I've written it myself. Was I scared to find out that you all would hate something I find so precious? ..."

I think so, yes. Daring to share the little things we find important, precious, are one of the building stones of relationships.


message 115: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Joe wrote: "Oh I read Flying High: The Adrien English and Jake Riordan Interview, and I want to thank you... thank you for posting it Calathea and thank, thank you Josh for writing it. I did need that finalit..."

I'm glad you enjoyed that, Joe. :-)


message 116: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Liade wrote: "Josh wrote: "Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "My inability to stick to a project -- let alone a schedule -- is actually embarrassing at this stage. What the heck is going on? ..."

Maybe you are not us..."


:-D

I've been thinking this morning about the terror and promise of blank pages. No matter how clear, how vivid it all is in your head, when you sit down to write those first words, there's always a moment of...prying your fingers from the rope and letting yourself fall.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "mc wrote: "Johanna wrote: "I've got so used to the feel of its Finnish words, the way they taste, the way they flow softly like the waves in the poem. And the fact that it has so many beautiful wor..."

Squirrel is a word that always makes me smile.


message 118: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Karan wrote: "My advise, for all it's worth, is to simply stop. Stop and center yourself. Then decide your favorite project of the bunch. Not what you have to do first, or what you said you would do first, but y..."

That's such a difficult thing to do though.


message 119: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Caroline wrote: "Johanna wrote: And I sincerely appologize for hijacking the new great topic for poem discussion ..."

As it's National Poetry month (in the USA and UK) I think we can be forgiven for discussing poe..."


I love that idea.


message 120: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Katharina wrote: "About the work thing once more: When I'm feeling overwhelmed and overburdened with work, I usually read this little excerpt out of "Momo" by Michael Ende. (Momo is a children's book - but it's with..."

What a great reminder that is. Thank you, Katharina.


message 121: by Katharina (new)

Katharina | 656 comments Josh wrote: "Katharina wrote: "About the work thing once more: When I'm feeling overwhelmed and overburdened with work, I usually read this little excerpt out of "Momo" by Michael Ende. (Momo is a children's bo..."

It's maybe my one favourite book (although that's a tough one to call...), also because of paragraphs like this one.

It's about the importance of living in the now, and about the dangers of putting too much emphasis on being effective and acting expediently instead of taking your own time for the things that are precious to you no matter how 'wasted' the time might seem to others.
And all that is packed into a beautiful, fantastical story for kids and adults alike to enjoy. ... I know, I'm gushing again, but man. Some books just deserve that. :-D


message 122: by Antonella (last edited Apr 16, 2013 11:36AM) (new)

Antonella | 11564 comments mc wrote: "The squirrel would definitely not be interested. He would throw Eichhorns at my head, no doubt."

Just to enlighten the mood: in fact ''acorn'' in German is ''Eichel'' not ''Eichhorn'', which is just another, a bit old fashioned word for squirrel.

But ''Eichel'' is also the German word for ''glans''. Squirrels throwing Eichel to you could be a bit equivocal ;-). Especially in this thread.

BTW thirty years ago I started studying philosophy at university to be able to understand texts like the ones quoted above. And when I finished I found out I wasn't interested in them anymore ;-). My focus shifted on languages.


message 123: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Johanna wrote: "I don't exactly know why I was so nervous to share the poem... it's not like I've written it myself. Was I scared to find out that you all would hate something I find so precious? ...."

Very true.


message 124: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Caroline wrote: "Johanna wrote: And I sincerely appologize for hijacking the new great topic for poem discussion ..."

As it's National Poetry month (in the USA and UK) I think we can be forgiven f..."


Okay-dokay. There is now a new thread Read Me a Poem in the General folder. Take it away, Caroline! We can move our poetry discussion over there. And thank you for the great idea! :-)


message 125: by Reggie (last edited Apr 19, 2013 11:34AM) (new)

Reggie Please Don’t Feed the Monsters …by Josh Lanyon

http://www.reviewsbyjessewave.com/201...


message 126: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments More thoughts by Josh on audiobooks, ACX, and incentive pricing:

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.co.uk


message 127: by Calathea (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments Ha! I knew the topic would come in handy! ;)
Thank you, Reggie and Hj, for posting the links. Will go read. :)


message 128: by Calathea (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments Not exactly Josh playing elsewhere... but might be of intrest for the collection. ;)

Interview with Kevin R. Free, narrator of the Holmes & Moriarity audio books, on Josh's blog.


message 129: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments Calathea wrote: "Not exactly Josh playing elsewhere... but might be of intrest for the collection. ;)

Interview with Kevin R. Free, narrator of the Holmes & Moriarity audio books, on Josh's blog."


At the very same moment you posted this, I was putting it onto the H&M thread (since we were discussing the audiobooks there).


message 130: by Calathea (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments Hj wrote: "Calathea wrote: "Not exactly Josh playing elsewhere... but might be of intrest for the collection. ;)

Interview with Kevin R. Free, narrator of the Holmes & Moriarity audio books, on Josh's blog."..."


Oh, lol. Great minds and all that...
You're right, though, the H&M thread is the perfect place.


message 131: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments Calathea wrote: "...the H&M thread is the perfect place. ..."

The perfect *other* place - it had to be here too!


message 132: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh plays with Iron Man... ;-)

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.fi/2013/05...


message 133: by Karen (new)

Karen | 4449 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "Josh plays with Iron Man... ;-)

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.fi/2013/05..."


Great post and great comments.


message 134: by Anne (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Johanna wrote: "Josh plays with Iron Man... ;-)

http://joshlanyon.blogspot.fi/2013/05..."


That was a wonderful little post and great comments too. As one commented, the post read like a little poem, a small slice of life.


message 136: by Sara (new)

Sara (hambel) | 1439 comments Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...?


message 137: by Karen (new)

Karen | 4449 comments Mod
Hambel wrote: "Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...?"

I'd prefer the first one (the profile). What a treat!


message 138: by Calathea (new)

Calathea | 6034 comments Hambel wrote: "There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...? "

Hey, thanks for the hint, Hambel. I always forget to look on fb...

#1
and
#2

Hm, not so easy to decide.


message 139: by Anne (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Calathea wrote: "Hambel wrote: "There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...? "

Hey, thanks for the hint, Hambel. I always forget ..."


No 1 is most mysterious


message 140: by Carlita (new)

Carlita Costello | 1219 comments I love No. 1 :-)


message 141: by Jordan (new)

Jordan Lombard (jslombard) | 15348 comments Mod
Oh what a fantastic excerpt!

As for the covers... That's one hell of a tough choice. I like the hood one 2 but the profile on 1. Hmmmm...


message 142: by Antonella (last edited May 25, 2013 03:01PM) (new)

Antonella | 11564 comments There are lots positive points of in favor of n.1.

And thank you for the excerpt, dear Calathea!


message 143: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Karen wrote: "Hambel wrote: "Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...?"

I'd prefer th..."


The covers were done by our own talented Lou Harper, by the by!


message 144: by Vivian (new)

Vivian (viv001) | 606 comments Josh wrote: "Karen wrote: "Hambel wrote: "Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...?"
..."


I like the first one.


message 145: by Reggie (new)

Reggie Josh wrote: "Karen wrote: "Hambel wrote: "Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook..."

Great job Lou!!!

I love them both. The first one has the 'look' of the Lanyon Brand. I would stop for a second look. 8)


message 146: by Anne (new)

Anne | 6816 comments Josh wrote: "Karen wrote: "Hambel wrote: "Thanks, Calathea! There's also a couple of covers on Josh's facebook page that he's asking opinions on - https://www.facebook.com/josh.lanyon/...?"
..."


Oh, well done, Lou, they are great!


message 147: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments I prefer no 1.

Is the series to be called "The Haunted Heart", and "Spring" is the first? If not, I wouldn't have "Spring" in a different colour. And if it is, I think I'd have "Spring" left-justified with the word "Haunted" on no 1 - I kept trying to understand what a Heart Spring was...


message 148: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Good job, Lou!

I liked the first guy with the (side)profile better, although I thought that the hood on the guy #2 is a nice detail. The light on the #1 guy's face looks conveniently mysterious, especially with the gorgeous moon on the background — and, well, I have to admit that I have a soft spot for dark haired guys (Sorry, hubby!). :-)


message 149: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Hj wrote: "I prefer no 1.

Is the series to be called "The Haunted Heart", and "Spring" is the first? If not, I wouldn't have "Spring" in a different colour. And if it is, I think I'd have "Spring" left-j..."


Winter comes first in the series. :-)


message 150: by HJ (new)

HJ | 3603 comments Josh wrote: "Winter comes first in the series. :-) ..."

How cheerful!! Then substitute "Winter" for "Spring" in my comment - I think the placement of the word is slightly off.


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