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Weather - What's YOUR weather today? (Part ONE - Started Sat., March 14, 2009) (Let's keep this going.)

I didn't get any notification about your post #700. So that's why I'm replying so late.

It's nice and cool now, after the monster storm.

Jackie, how awful for you. I'm sorry to hear you went through all that and had so much damage. It must have been frightening to go through. I'll have to check the newspapers and read all about it. I wonder what other damage took place around your village.

I've seen hail but never like this. They looked like snowballs. I wasn't scared for me, but for Eric, he was just got in his car to go for an eye exam and I was on the porch ready to chase him down if he went to leave. Anthony was yelling at me to get back in the house. Yeah, not gonna happen when my kid is out there. Oh, and he turns 21 today. Not a kid anymore. But always my kid. lol
I know Beach Road was closed, downed tree across the road; phone and power lines down. Someone told me that for the span of those 3 or 4 blocks in the village on the main road, where you and I walked that time Joy, they counted 56 cars with one or both windshields broken. It's unbelievable. It's worse than the hurricane last year.

We had a bad hail storm here a month ago, but it was after I left for the day & we didn't get anything at home. Just one person here had over $4K damage done to her car. Dents all over it.

http://poststar.com/news/local/hail-d...
As Jim said, glad no one was hurt. The insurance companies will be paying for all those broken windshields and dents! They'll hurt! :)

Insurance won't be paying for Eric's damage. He only had liability. Which is why he pays less than $700 a year and not over $2500.




Yes, outdoors or indoors... it's no fun! :)
"A perfectly kept house is the sign of a mispent life." -Anonymous :)
But there ARE some things which NEED to be done! :-(


Enjoy your White Christmas, Werner!
I have friends in Charlottesville, VA and Williamsburg VA. I wonder if they had snow too. We had a wet snow which disappeared the next day after some slush.

Yesterday started out at 17 or so & it's about 27 now. I really want to get those trees that fell up & fix the fence. That's down a steep hill in the woods, though. I'm sure my truck will go up & down the hill, but I don't want to tear ruts in it. They'll just wash out. I really don't want to carry all the stuff I'll need up & down, either, though. I'd load it on Chip, if I had packs that would take it.
That's what I should ask for on my birthday; a pack saddle & pulling harness for Chip. There's a big, cool looking fossil rock & a cedar I'd love to get out of the woods, but I can't get the tractor in to them without really tearing things up. He'd fit with a narrow sled, though.



Jim, glad you're feeling better. I'm sure you feel better about the fences being fixed and the trees cleaned up... all ready for Christmas. :) Relax and enjoy.

That's right, Werner. Green is also a Christmas color. (lol) It's also safer for those who have to travel. When I was younger I liked white Christmases but now that I'm older, I prefer safe driving. :)




My grands are here and it looks like bad weather for them to travel back home. Worried.
PS-Temp is 27 F.



grrr...

Hey Jim, that hay sounds delicious! (lol) Imagine living on a diet of hay! Poor horses! It there a "gourmet" hay that the horses prefer?

I didn't get any notification about your post #700. So that's why I'm..."Cold, very cold; single digets and no snow,just a bit of leftover from last week and still bits of ice hanging around. My bird bath frozen to the ground. Joy, here's a poem for you:
This World is not Conclusion
A species stands beyond
Invisible as Music
But positive as Sound.
Emily Dickinson

;-)
Joy, there are LOTS of different kinds of hay. There are grass hays like meadow or orchard grass & timothy. Depending on the types of grasses & when it is cut, the meadow/orchard grass hay can be better or worse. Timothy is always pretty stemmy & tough, better suited to cattle - at least according to my ladies - unless it is pelletized (ground up & turned into a feed pellet). They're pickier about their horses hay than they are about what they feed me, though.
Two of the main non-grass hays are alfalfa & clover. These are often mixed in with the grass hays since they can't be fed straight in large quantities or it throws their systems out of whack, or so I've heard.
Each type of hay grows differently, too. In our area, timothy usually only gets one good spring cutting & sometimes one late cutting, but that's usually more of a mix. It doesn't grow well during the summer. Alfalfa is similar, both doing well over the winter.
Meadow or orchard grass hays are actually a mixture of a lot of different kinds of grasses & can vary a lot even from the same field depending on the time of year. We prefer 2d cutting since it grows the fastest & with the least weeds, but most tend to cut it a bit late around here. There's a fine line as to when to cut it. Too early & it's not long enough & can take too long to dry. Too late & it's tougher, having cured on the stem.
Two or three cuttings is normal around here, depending on how wet the summer is. The first cutting is generally April/May with a second cutting June/July &, if there's enough water in August, a third cutting in October. If it can't be cut by October, the temp is too cold for much growth & there isn't enough sun & dry days anyway, so it waits until the next spring.
We need at least 3, preferably 4 or 5, dry days in a row to make hay. It should be dry when cut, then it dries on one side, is raked over to the other side & then baled on the 3d day & put up. Depending on the humidity or temperature, that can stretch a day, but much outside that timeline & the hay is usually ruined, at least for us. It will get moldy & that's never fed to the horses. Cows can often eat some mold, but horses & sheep won't even touch it.
Sheesh! There's more, but I'm tired of typing. I know hay seems simple in books, but it's no simpler than anything else on a farm. There are a lot of considerations.

This World is not Conclusion
A species stands beyond
Invisible as Music
But positive as Sound.
Emily Dickinson "
Yes, Nina, our birdbath is frozen too. :)
Thanks for the lovely Dickinson poem. Clever similes.
Below is my favorite Dickinson poem:
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"Hope" is the thing with feathers –
That perches in the soul –
And sings the tune without the words –
And never stops – at all –
And sweetest – in the Gale – is heard –
And sore must be the storm –
That could abash the little Bird
That kept so many warm –
I've heard it in the chillest land –
And on the strangest Sea –
Yet, never, in Extremity,
It asked a crumb – of Me.
-Emily Dickinson
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Never realized all the differences, Jim.
And now I realize that you even grow your own hay! Amazing!
Thanks for explaining!
Do the horses show preferences for different types of hay?


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T..."Joy, How do I post something on Updates from...? nina

Nina, here's how I would do it:
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1. Click on the name of the book in the email update. It will take you to the book's page.
2.When you get to the book's page, scroll down and you should find your friend's review of that book.
3. Under the review, click on the word "comment".
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Hope this helps.


When I say 'we' I meant we're often in contact with the farmer who is doing the hay. Marg has looked at the fields & last year's yield. The farmer needs to get the hay to our barn ASAP, too. Load a wagon, bring it to our place & unload it. Otherwise it would have to be moved twice more. We always get small square bales as the horses will waste most of a round bale. Cattle aren't quite as picky & eat a little different so they don't waste as much. Sheep nibble, so will waste even less if the bale is properly contained, which can be tough.
Horses definitely have preferences in hay. They like the taste of alfalfa & clover a lot, but alfalfa can be pretty stemmy, so they'll waste more & they're too rich for our guys. Finer, softer, younger grass hay is another they love. When it gets older & tougher, they don't like it as much & tend to waste more as they pick through it. If they step on it, they usually won't try to eat it again.
As Werner said, it's a hot, hard job. Stacking hay in a barn would be considered cruel & unusual punishment for a criminal - seriously. Younger boys who can't toss bales over their heads often get the job of stacking the top rows in the barn loft. I don't know what the temperature gets to be, but it's very hot, full of dust & doesn't seem to have a breath of air since hay is done during the hot, sunny days. I've come out of lofts with my clothes so wet even my jeans could be wrung out.
One of the frustrating facts about moving hay, like putting in fiberglass insulation, is that there is a balance that everyone must find on their own in clothes. You have to wear long pants for hay or else you'll tear up your thighs on the prickly sides of the bale. Going shirtless is cooler, but chaff tends to get into your belt line & that can be itchy. Some wear long sleeves, too. I usually just wear jeans, but my belly gets poked up some & my forearms often look like I got in a bit of tussle with a cat.
Some depends on the weight of the bales & how they're tied. If the baler uses wire, the bales generally run from 45 - 75 lbs & are very tight. Then you need to use at least one hay hook to grab them & that changes angles, so I'll keep a shirt on. We don't get those thankfully. I don't even have a hay hook anymore. We generally get light bales, 35 - 40 lbs each bound with twine. Those are usually easy enough to grab & toss, although if they use plastic twine instead of sisal, they can crank up the tightness of the bale more.
With only a couple of hundred, I don't bother with gloves. Even my thin cowhide ones are just in the way & hot. The downside of that is my cuticles get torn up & sometimes get splinters in them. Not a big deal, but a bit ouchy for a couple of days. More bales than that & I will wear them. I don't have the calluses I used to so I'll start getting blisters on my fingers.

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Nina, the only way I know to recommend a book so that others can comment is to write a review of the book.
I notice that you haven't written any reviews to the books on your shelves.
To write a review:
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1. Go to the book which is already on your shelf and click on "edit".
2. Then write your review and save it. Then other people will see your review and your recommendations and they can make comments.
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PS-To go to your shelves, click on "My Books" at the top of most screens.
Hope this helps.

At my group I've provided a section for book recommendations, but I don't think many people look at that section. However, if you want to post something there, go to the following section and start a new topic:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/group_...
I suggest that the subject-title should be the name of the book.

I never knew there was that much to know about hay!
All I ever knew was the saying: "Hay is for horses." :)

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Great pics! New snow is always so pretty.
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It's been hot and humid here, too; it rained quite a bit yesterday afternoon, but by this afternoon it was hot again. (But no hail, thankfully!)