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Squire (Protector of the Small, #3)
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Tamora Pierce (Goodreads Author)
4.30 avg rating — 54,835 ratings
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The Monsterjunkies: Sanctuary (American Family Odyssey #2)
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Erik Daniel Shein (Goodreads Author)
4.32 avg rating — 31 ratings
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달빛 조각사 12 (The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor, #12)
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4.41 avg rating — 691 ratings
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魔法科高校の劣等生 1 入学編〈上〉 (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei, #1)
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STRUGGS
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Mage's Burden (Fire of the Jidaan, #1)
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Whit McClendon (Goodreads Author)
4.18 avg rating — 164 ratings
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The Light of the Oracle
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3.98 avg rating — 2,178 ratings
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The Fifth Vertex (The Sigilord Chronicles, #1)
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Kevin Hoffman (Goodreads Author)
3.77 avg rating — 318 ratings
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Jigsaw World
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J.D. Lovil (Goodreads Author)
2.33 avg rating — 3 ratings
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Something Witchy This Way Comes (Something Witchy, #1)
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Veronica Blade (Goodreads Author)
3.84 avg rating — 635 ratings
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In Your Dreams (The Aldaya Series, #1)
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John Swan (Goodreads Author)
4.56 avg rating — 16 ratings
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Final Reverie
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Essel Pratt (Goodreads Author)
4.33 avg rating — 15 ratings
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Witch (Doppelganger, #2)
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Marie Brennan (Goodreads Author)
3.97 avg rating — 2,373 ratings
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Buan: The Perfect Mortals
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Reece Bridger (Goodreads Author)
4.09 avg rating — 53 ratings
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First Year (The Black Mage, #1)
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Rachel E. Carter (Goodreads Author)
3.94 avg rating — 23,079 ratings
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Dreamtreaders (Dreamtreaders, #1)
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Wayne Thomas Batson (Goodreads Author)
4.02 avg rating — 649 ratings
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Dragon Fate
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J.D. Hallowell (Goodreads Author)
3.84 avg rating — 787 ratings
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Dog Dance of Snikia
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Richard Wolkomir (Goodreads Author)
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Wraeththu (Wraeththu #1-3)
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3.94 avg rating — 2,685 ratings
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Hotblood (House of Slide, #1)
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Juliann Whicker (Goodreads Author)
3.80 avg rating — 177 ratings
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The reincarnation office (Acoustic Funambulist #7)
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Jean-Yves Crozier (Goodreads Author)
it was amazing 5.00 avg rating — 3 ratings
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Michael Hanson and the Desolate Woods (Powers of Ezron, #1)
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E.L. Ervin (Goodreads Author)
4.26 avg rating — 43 ratings
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First Contact (Aoleon The Martian Girl, #1)
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Brent LeVasseur (Goodreads Author)
4.08 avg rating — 172 ratings
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The Adventures of Manny Lark: A Sip From The Bloodwell
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Joshua Cox-Steib (Goodreads Author)
4.55 avg rating — 11 ratings
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The Vallyn (Vallyn, #1)
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James Quinn (Goodreads Author)
it was amazing 5.00 avg rating — 4 ratings
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Gathering Water (Gathering Water, #1)
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Regan Claire (Goodreads Author)
3.91 avg rating — 1,959 ratings
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The Soft Dragons Thunder
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Adam N. Webber (Goodreads Author)
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Zebulon Quest: The Sword of Fire (The Artifacts of Merlin Saga #1)
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Tim Northburg (Goodreads Author)
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Compulsion (The Heirs of Watson Island, #1)
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Martina Boone (Goodreads Author)
3.85 avg rating — 3,273 ratings
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From Frights to Flaws (Alyssa McCarthy's Magical Missions, #1)
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Sunayna Prasad (Goodreads Author)
3.89 avg rating — 261 ratings
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Enchantress (Evermen Saga, #1)
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James Maxwell (Goodreads Author)
4.03 avg rating — 17,840 ratings
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Elpis:
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Aaron McGowan (Goodreads Author)
4.12 avg rating — 51 ratings
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The Foul Mouth and the Headless Hunny (The King Henry Tapes, #4)
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Richard Raley (Goodreads Author)
4.53 avg rating — 522 ratings
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The Golding (Epiphany, #1)
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Sonya Deanna Terry (Goodreads Author)
3.85 avg rating — 81 ratings
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All the Paths of Shadow (Paths of Shadow, #1)
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Frank Tuttle (Goodreads Author)
3.92 avg rating — 1,308 ratings
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Under the Shadow of Darkness (Apprentice, #1)
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James Cardona (Goodreads Author)
4.29 avg rating — 59 ratings
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Phoenix Awakens (The Phoenix, #1)
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Eliza Nolan (Goodreads Author)
3.88 avg rating — 239 ratings
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Miriam's Talisman
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Elenor Gill (Goodreads Author)
3.53 avg rating — 73 ratings
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The Breath of Aoles (Ardalia #1)
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Alan Spade (Goodreads Author)
4.04 avg rating — 115 ratings
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The Treemakers (The Treemakers Trilogy #1)
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Christina L. Rozelle (Goodreads Author)
4.23 avg rating — 550 ratings
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Stormcaller (The Age of Dawn, #1)
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Everet Martins (Goodreads Author)
3.56 avg rating — 319 ratings
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The Burglar And The Prince (Ashter Empire Book 1)
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The Gantean (Tales of Blood & Light, #1)
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Emily June Street (Goodreads Author)
4.02 avg rating — 46 ratings
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Ascension of the Whyte (The Afterland Chronicles, #1)
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Karen Wrighton (Goodreads Author)
3.82 avg rating — 44 ratings
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Albion Imperilled
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3.82 avg rating — 61 ratings
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A Sentinela
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Richard Zimler (Goodreads Author)
3.90 avg rating — 582 ratings
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Crik
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Karl Beer (Goodreads Author)
4.07 avg rating — 102 ratings
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Mantle: The Return of the Sha
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Gary Bregar (Goodreads Author)
4.03 avg rating — 33 ratings
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The Rift War
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Emmanuel M. Arriaga (Goodreads Author)
3.61 avg rating — 31 ratings
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A New Age (Book of One, #1)
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Jordan Baker (Goodreads Author)
3.85 avg rating — 1,112 ratings
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Captivate (Submerged Sun, #1)
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Vanessa Garden (Goodreads Author)
3.80 avg rating — 1,862 ratings
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Westerealm (Mornisle, Part 1)
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Organic Chemistry [with WebConnect]
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4.04 avg rating — 426 ratings
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Rise
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Belle Antoinette (Goodreads Author)
it was amazing 5.00 avg rating — 6 ratings
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Strange Luck (Strange Luck Series #1)
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4.41 avg rating — 73 ratings
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Los fragmentos del destino. Hermandad de la Nueva Era
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María Viqueira (Goodreads Author)
4.15 avg rating — 92 ratings
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Hikari Okami: Kitsune Series
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Lolah Runda (Goodreads Author)
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Lily of Lamoranth (The Legend of Lamoranth, #1)
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Hannah Lowry (Goodreads Author)
4.22 avg rating — 9 ratings
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Shadows of Atlantis: Awakening
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Mara Powers (Goodreads Author)
4.32 avg rating — 330 ratings
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Beauty and the Beast (Timeless Fairy Tales, #1)
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K.M. Shea (Goodreads Author)
4.12 avg rating — 8,714 ratings
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Fire Dancer (Equilibria, #4)
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Echo Fox (Goodreads Author)
4.90 avg rating — 10 ratings
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Wizards' Secret Service: The Key of Radmar (Book 1)
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George A. Kos (Goodreads Author)
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The Rift (The Rift #1)
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J.T. Stoll (Goodreads Author)
3.60 avg rating — 129 ratings
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The Peerless Seer (Emaleen Andarsan, #1)
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B.S. Gibbs (Goodreads Author)
4.06 avg rating — 18 ratings
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Borrowed Magic (Borrowed Magic #1)
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Shari Lambert (Goodreads Author)
3.95 avg rating — 107 ratings
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Merlinsky: The Sorcerer's Apprentice
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Alan C. Baird (Goodreads Author)
3.91 avg rating — 34 ratings
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Mark of Four (Guardian of the Vale, #1)
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Tamara Shoemaker (Goodreads Author)
4.46 avg rating — 35 ratings
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A Darker Shade of Sorcery (The Realmers #1)
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William Collins (Goodreads Author)
3.84 avg rating — 305 ratings
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The Steel Queen (The Silk & Steel Saga, #1)
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Karen Azinger (Goodreads Author)
3.95 avg rating — 395 ratings
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Gloom Rising (The Book Wielder Saga #1)
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Sean Davies (Goodreads Author)
3.26 avg rating — 90 ratings
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The Sorcerer’s Quest (The Sorcerer’s Saga, #1)
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Rain Oxford (Goodreads Author)
3.76 avg rating — 830 ratings
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A Taste of Death and Honey
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Sharon Bayliss (Goodreads Author)
3.91 avg rating — 32 ratings
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The Midnight Sea (The Fourth Element, #1)
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Kat Ross (Goodreads Author)
3.95 avg rating — 4,457 ratings
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The Summoned King: Book One of The Kalymbrian Chronicles
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Dave Neuendorf (Goodreads Author)
3.78 avg rating — 63 ratings
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The Gravid Farce
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jon libby (Goodreads Author)
3.95 avg rating — 20 ratings
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The Forbidden City (The King's Lion #1)
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Alexander Grant (Goodreads Author)
3.90 avg rating — 171 ratings
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Bring (The Last Beholder, #1)
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Megan Beam (Goodreads Author)
4.39 avg rating — 46 ratings
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The Coming of the King (Books of Merlin, #1)
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3.28 avg rating — 574 ratings
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The Light Princess
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4.02 avg rating — 9,026 ratings
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The Oaken Throne (The Deptford Histories, #2)
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4.22 avg rating — 604 ratings
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BlackMoon Beginnings (Prophesized, #1)
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Kaitlyn Hoyt (Goodreads Author)
4.08 avg rating — 2,387 ratings
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The Brotherhood of the Wheel (Brotherhood of the Wheel, #1)
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R.S. Belcher (Goodreads Author)
3.94 avg rating — 1,296 ratings
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The Bones of the Past (The Books of Dust and Bone, #1)
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Craig A. Munro (Goodreads Author)
3.97 avg rating — 70 ratings
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Grey (Covenant of Shadows, #1)
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Kade Cook (Goodreads Author)
3.95 avg rating — 183 ratings
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The Last Ditto
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4.69 avg rating — 13 ratings
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Heroes of Urowen: Gamebook
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David Velasco (Goodreads Author)
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The Gospel of Lie: A Grieving Christian Searches the Bible for a New Jesus
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3.86 avg rating — 22 ratings
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The Chronicles of Fey,: Rising
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Melissa Willis-Sell (Goodreads Author)
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The Book of Houdini
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Blessings of a Curse - USA Edition (Nexus of Kellaran, #1)
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4.11 avg rating — 76 ratings
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Finding Your Colors: Fine Art Adult Coloring Book
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Hertz Nazaire (Goodreads Author)
4.78 avg rating — 9 ratings
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Agreed.



I quite agree. I loved that series.

It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are familiar with.
Harry Potter books are great, and they're fun. Yet there is absolutely nothing interesting (nor original) about the magic system. Magic exists, and works in a way convenient to the story and the writer. The effects of the magic might be interesting, but the books shouldn't really be considered in a "Most Interesting Magical System" category.
mercury wrote: "This list is FAILing it's job of rating books on interesting-ness of the magic system.
It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are fami..."
I was thinking the same thing... after looking at the list, it looks like a popularity contest. I suppose some people are rather limited in the reading they have done. I can't even remember all the books I've read. I actually added some books i don't even like to the list ;) I was thinking along the lines of original, well developed, unique, well explained, and interesting systems. I am refraining from voting on books already listed that I LOVE, because I don't think they really qualify for this list. Oh well...
It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually read and are fami..."
I was thinking the same thing... after looking at the list, it looks like a popularity contest. I suppose some people are rather limited in the reading they have done. I can't even remember all the books I've read. I actually added some books i don't even like to the list ;) I was thinking along the lines of original, well developed, unique, well explained, and interesting systems. I am refraining from voting on books already listed that I LOVE, because I don't think they really qualify for this list. Oh well...

It's successfully rating books on popularity with readers, by which books they've actually r..."
I made the list and sorry but I don't see a way to kick books off!



Some claims that Harry, as the boy who survived, can do any kind of magic, simply by pronouncing the required magical words in the correct tone and accent. It’s absolutely wrong. In order to do "magic", firstly you have to possess the magical power and ability. You may learn spells by reading spell books, but in order to cast one, you have to learn how to do so, and train yourself. For example; in “The Deathly Hallows”, Hagrid desperately tries to repair his motorbike up in the air, he screams “Reparo” the magical word to repair stuff, as you might recall, in the very correct accent, yet it does not work successfully. Why not? Hagrid has magical powers, as we witness in the first book, but he is incapable of casting certain kinds of spells.
If you’re not satisfied with this particular example, here’s another one for you: The Patronus Charm! It’s not all about swinging your wand and yelling “Expecto Patronum”. After learning the basics, you have to imagine your happiest moments to form a patronus, which is not an easy task, since many students seem amazed by the fact that Harry manages to produce it.
Another intriguing fact about the magical word of Harry Potter is that there are certain rules about “creating” things. For instance; you cannot create food out of thin air, as Hermione explains to Ron in “The Deathly Hallows”. There’s in indeed a limitation.
If you examine the books -quite carefully for once- you as well, will definitely come up with other facts, that may serve to prove the point.

The question is have you ever read Harry Potter? When it comes to that, you're randomly guessing without reasoning.

I understand that you don't have "anything" to say about HP world, you obviously have a very limited knowledge -probably based on the “popular” film adaptations- and you're not capable of criticizing my comment on the magical system of HP, therefore I have already successfully pointed out that you're randomly guessing.

You're the one, who clearly insulted each and every one, who like the pure escapist HP series, by claiming that they're for "unthinking masses". Actually, generalisation is for "unthinking" and lazy beings. Hope you remember it, the next time.

Agreed. How's Twilight even on this list? There is no magic in that book. Just weird vampire powers (still not magic).




Agreed. Have you ever read "Black Magician Trilogy" by Trudi Canavan? I believe the magic system in that story is as complex as Eragon. Not everyone can do magic. But everyone has magic. And the magic it self like a knowledge that needs to explored first. Just like a scienstist trying to find new thing.


By this logic eventually every book with the word magic in it somewhere will be clogging up the list eliminating any value it may have...



I completely agree with you! I am also a Harry Potter fan but I do not understand the magic system at all.


I totally agree! I'd prefer to have A Wizard of Earthsea beat HP's position! I'd comment on the other books, but I haven't gotten to reading them yet. I will eventually!
Matthew wrote: "Although there is some argument over Harrt Potter, I think we can all agree that Twilight does not, in any way shape or form, belong on this list."
Totally agree
I was thinking WTH is that doing in here! not only that but its almost in the top 50!
I swear twilight comes up on every list!
It was in a steampunk list at one point!
what is with the twilight fans ?
Totally agree
I was thinking WTH is that doing in here! not only that but its almost in the top 50!
I swear twilight comes up on every list!
It was in a steampunk list at one point!
what is with the twilight fans ?
I also agree about harry potter has much as I love thoese books the only interesting magic is the horcruxs and even then that are not the most imaginative.

Maybe if the terms were more clearly and explicitly defined at the top of the page, people would be more discriminating about what books they add.

I suppose you're right about the description. Depending on one's experience with the fantasy genre, one may not understand what a magic "system" is, as opposed to a world or a setting.


Another thing, whoever the heck is voting for Twilight, stop it!! They don't use magic - they are werewolves and vampires. And if that is magic, it's not new - books about werewolves and vampires are not "unique."
Furthermore, why don't we just vote on series, not series and the individual volumes? I mean, the magic in Mistborn doesn't change from book to book. The uniqueness of the system is the same in each book - so how is one more unique than the other? I mean, really.

Speaking of Mistborn, Brandon Sanderson ALWAYS goes above and beyond when it comes to the creation and defining of magical systems. The systems always have clear limitations and, what to me at least, the best part about all of them is that none of them function in the absence of... well, something. Be it metal, color, trapped light or 'breath'/souls, each of his magic systems have an internal logic they must play by; in a sense each system has its own law of conservation of energy.
Garth Nix did the same thing in the Old Kingdom stories, when he brought a rather elegant system of magic to necromancy through the use of sound and the various gates of death. The aspects of charter magic and words are more traditional but since that was the magic of the common people inhabiting his world, it served as a nice counterpoint to the abilities of the abhorsen.
One of the most thought provoking systems of magic I have encountered was in A Shadow of Summer by Daniel Abraham. The golemesque 'andat' and the poets that bind them with unique 'names' and whose very own sense of self worth can infect those 'names' and allow weaknesses for the andat to exploit was wonderfully used and rich with philosophical potential that wouldn't have been found in the traditional summoner and summoning pact basis from which it springs.
I am going to stop before I go on and on about why I picked each book to vote for but I guess the main reason I stopped to write a reply to this list is simply because it is my favorite one to think about hands down.
Oh and Robin Hobb got two books in my list from the same series (or at least the same world) because the magic system diverges in very unique ways... and honestly, it does again in the third trilogy. I won't say more since most of it is closely tied to the plot.



I know! Where's Bartimaeus on this list? How can The Host be on while they aren't?!

I know! Where's Bartimaeus on this list? How c..."
VERY good point. The magic in that book was very unique, and very cool.
As it stands, however, Bartimaeus IS on the list. Number 65.
The Ballad of Young Tam Lin. You can debate the "original," since it's somewhat based on Scottish folklore, but for a totally engaging fantasy romance, you won't find better than this. Preview 3 chapters on Amazon Kindle ("Look Inside").

Going back a bit (well, a BIG bit), there's the Amber series by Zelazny. Not nearly as well-written as The Ballad of Young Tam Lin (above), but the plotting in the early books is engaging, and the idea of a reality "more real" than our own is compelling.
The problem with the Harry Potter universe is that the magic HAS no system. Look at the magical duels. Harry and pals have to yell out obscure words, but Lord V and Dumbledore just throw raw magic around, a la Once and Future King (oh, there's a good one for the list). Reading the series, you can see how Rowling trapped herself with the silliness of the early books. (Anyone ever tried to drink real pumpkin juice? The skin crawls at the thought.)

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Agreed, and lord of the rings while definitely involving magic, encoperates scarce more a difinition than 'it exists'

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This doesn't mean I am not a fan I love Harry Potter!