MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

Keith wrote: "I have done a bit of research..."
"Protect her daughter..." is she serious?!

The next statistic scared the hell out of me
Me too.
I am so glad I got my first mobile when I was 14, because I myself said I didn't need one before that. And how can one send 100 text messages a day? In my best days I maybe sent thirty - every few months or so...

Your question Keith, I think, hits the nail on the head, but when indeed do we draw a line? Everyone falls somewhere else on the spectrum from very-strict to very-liberal I'd say. What for one person is totally okay, for another person is not.

Cat wrote: "My school has teachers with really "old" beliefs, which makes my life difficult since vocally claiming for the right to be treated as a equal with boys can get me in trouble.
That is why online ac..."
Don't be not proud that you didn't do anything more yet, not everyone can safely do the same things when it comes to activism.
And I agree with you, the intersex movement for example relies solely on the internet, otherwise they wouldn't even know they aren't most times or how to meet others. Online activism is so important.

Sascha wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Keith, I am not happy with the "Pussy hats" either: We have to fight for our sisters, not just our cisters :) "

Well that depends - there are options to send a message with y..."

Well, that is definitely a way to do it;)

It warms my heart to see such passionate discussion here;)

I can only itinerate what my previous speakers have said already. I made friends here, I have learned here so much and I am forever grateful for that. It's a giving and taking, we all learn from each other.
It is fun, and for me, it is a habit;) I visit here every few hours.

Online-activism is really good to coordinate offline-activism, but it depends on the goal the activists have in mind: When I look at Hamburg, Germany I am rather shocked at what some of the protestors did at the G20 summit there. (Throwing paviour at the police is not peacefully anymore, setting fire to the cars isn't either;( )

Keith, I am not happy with the "Pussy hats" either: We have to fight for our sisters, not just our cisters:)

Georgios wrote: "I have to ask you something about Sebastian Kurz. If you know.

How does that guy manage to fix his hair in position? Does he have a cow that licks him every morning and then they stay like that? W..."

Don't get me started on this young, inexperienced (okay, not so much anymore), middle-right politician that happens to be our foreign minister. What he did in the last couple weeks, well, I hope it blows up the People's Party, but if the Liberals get the votes then that doesn't help me either. He's the minister for integration and then he blocks like every other try to actually pass a decent law on integration, and now with the #Kurzleaks we have the next problem in Austria, although that one pales in comparison to others.

I don't know what he does, but I had to chuckle a bit. A cow licking his hair, that's a bit funny.

Ross wrote: "Good Question Kate who decides well the members of the group would . The best method would be the original Greek system which works like jury duty where you are selected to sit on the committee for..."

A mix of OSS and a firewall? That sounds interesting, I mean, OSS is a safe space mostly, and otherwise we take care of the issue... A very good idea, I just think that it might not be possible everywhere. Here, most of us bring an attitude of respect and therefore it is a safe space more than other spaces. Because most of us have this attitude, and the few black sheeps can be taken care of. I doubt that the same can be said for online games, tho I must say I am a novice when it comes to them, as I'm no gamer at all.

But the idea of a mix of a firewall and the OSS rules/handling, that is very interesting.

Georgios wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "MeerderWörter | 1404 comments
I think that's funny. Because we don't have access to sea any more and one really needs to be aware to not get caught up with all the words.


Bu..."

I was not the one who got off being argumentative!

I think that's funny. Because we don't have access to sea any more and one really needs to be aware to not get caught up with all the words.


But that was not really what I was thinking of.

Keith wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "But we still need a better policy in general. Why is it that in the internet everything tends to turn sour so much easier than in "real life"?"

Agreed - I don't think anyone ..."

I'm with Keith here, it's no use to censor but we need to protect users from harassment/trolling/cyberbullying...

The web is good to connect and do that in a way that is more anonymous. But we also need to take care of the obvious problems at hand.

Maybe a license is a bit far-fetched, but better policies and/or the compliance with them are necessary.

We cannot let hate and bullying happening...

But we still need a better policy in general. Why is it that in the internet everything tends to turn sour so much easier than in "real life"?

Keith wrote: "@James @Meerder

James - Thank you for the links - it's really interesting to see another perspective. Your other posts brought my thoughts together in significantly less space and in a more succin..."

First thing I learned in statistics at university were a few simple tricks how to make them more how you like them, without even making them wrong;) So yes, that is really a problem.

Ross wrote: "Our mandate is a feminist space to review works current and past. Emma's selections have nor shied away from controversy nor should they in my view.

It could be argued that we have seen progress o..."

There's an autobiography? I need to track that one down, maybe I can borrow it somewhere in the library.

James wrote: "The other thing to consider here is by proposing the idea of singling out a particular sex (in this case men) you are in my opinion reinforcing the idea that women are the weaker sex and should be ..."

That's a fair point, James. It can be seen as further victimizing women (which is not something that feminism wants)

Keith wrote: "Male - 36
Female - 6
Can't Tell - 30
(Sorry Meerder - it's difficult to be inclusive doing something like this; no offense intended)"

No offense taken.
But see, you had problems finding out the gender of the persons, which only further shows that we need to have a license for all, and not just a certain type of men. Fighting sexism with sexism is a bit odd.
And as James has pointed out, apparently men face more online abuse. Which only shows us that, let's call it "hearsay", is just that: hearsay.
It doesn't even shock me, because women can be very toxic, for reasons I often don't understand. (But that's another topic)



Keith wrote: "I have never bothered with the system, but I sympathise with your reaction. It makes you wonder whether it's the 'head in the sand' syndrome - if we ignore it, it will go away. "
I was having a little "discussion" with some TERFs and they just couldn't accept anything new. I came with an argument, and their comments just made my blood boil.

Gerd wrote: "With all I read about Naomi Wolf's stance on rape, I have a hard time to take the author very serious as a "feminist".

Given that one of the first things I stumbled over looking the book up on GR ..."

OH MY, how can she say that?!

I still have to fetch mine from the library, but I'll let you know which cover it has!

I actually think that this cover is pretty good:
https://www.amazon.com/Der-Mythos-Sch...

But I also really like the hour-glass cover, especially the hour-glass cover and the covers that Emma, Ross and Wolf have mentioned. They show just how much pressure there is on women in general.

Gerd wrote: "Keith wrote: "For example, do you hold a Facebook user responsible for a comment or Facebook itself for hosting said content - or do you pursue both? Furthermore, who does the policing?
..."

The U..."

I'm totally with Keith here, and I really need to say that Twitter needs to improve their flagging system. I hardly ever use it, and when I do, I am really pissed and hurt, and it doesn't really help when they do nothing then!

Since I don't want a system to be sexist in order to solve other problems, I say everyone needs to have such a license. Because everyone can misbehave online, although it is mostly cisgender, dyadic men who do it. ( I see your point, Ross, but I think we need to include everyone, otherwise we only tackle a portion of the problem, not the problem as a whole.)

Georgios wrote: "Ines wrote: "From my experience the most effective is number 4 when delivered by another man. Logically (and sadly) a man who tells sexist jokes will listen to another man's opinion over a woman's...."

I agree with most of what you say, but I still think that not the one who says it, but the one who is the subject of the joke can say whether it's a joke or not. Otherwise, we just continue the sexism for example. We need to check each other on that.

Well, I think feminism is for everyone, of course I have to think about as many as I can!

Harsher anti-harassment laws, that is what we need in the first place. Online and offline!

Children... never an easy topic for me. But I really need to say that this is somewhat a social norm, because my dad got asked maybe a few months ago when he would become a grandparent... that is so wrong!!! ( I am only twenty, and that is not the only problem I have with such questions...)

I understand the questions in general, because the birth rates are declining, but still...