MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

Myrthe wrote: "Wow! I joined this about a year ago but then got busy with university stuff and kinda forgot about it. Is there any way I can rejoin?"

Just send Agnes a message on Skype;)

Ross wrote: "James wrote: "Thibaud wrote: "Hello there,

I wanted to create this topic to discuss how people see gallantry or chivalry. The reason is that I already have seen men getting scolded by women for th..."

For me it really depends on the situation, and who it is. Like, if I deliver mail and someone holds open a door for me so I can get inside then that is definitely appreciated. But if someone holds open a door for me although I am perfectly capable of opening it myself, then this annoys me.

Ross wrote: "we are a a keen and enthusiastic bunch sure we can work out times
to accommodate people.

its fun people can be different IRL so far most have been the same as on line :)"

Who would have thought that our Skype call on March 4th would have turned into something like this?

I appreciate it when someone holds a door open for me.

I sit at the place for disabled/elderly people so if they need it I can get up and sit somewhere else (Because I've seen so many people not do it, I wanna make sure that they are used in the way they are supposed to)

I take my belongings on my lap in order to make place if the tram is crowded (which happens totally often if you go with it at 5:15, no, actually it doesn't... but if I go with the tram and it is crowded, I do)

@Keith: Sometimes you just need to screw social norms, especially the harmful ones!

I can't really talk about this, since I've never been hit on, or anything else comparable by a man.

The British accent... I fell in love with it;)

Meelie wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "What's the female version of Lord? And how do they explain the sex change, oh, interes..."

Technically, it's Lady, but I don't see the point of changing the term 'Time Lord' ..."

Valid points that you raise. And yes, if they were all white so far, a change should happen, if there's a 14th, I agree.

Robert wrote: "This has come a long way from my days watching Tom Baker and "The Scarf".

A female Doctor. Awesome!

This is like going from male captains on Star Trek as well to the female Captain Janeway (Kate..."

And I like Voyager the most out of all the series;)
It's definitely time!

Keith wrote: "@Meerder

I would probably start with the 2005 re-incarnation. The programme became quite poor towards the end of the 1963-1989 run, although Jon Pertwee was magical as the Doctor"

Thanks, I'll start in 2005 then. I only know David Tennant as the Doctor, let's see how this famous sci-fi series is. It's not really a thing here in Austria, my parents didn't even know it (which is a shame, I think)

You know you're watching a cult series when it started before your parents were born, wow, this is serious.

Now you've got me, now I need to watch it!

With which shall I start? Old ones or new ones?

Another question:
What's the female version of Lord? And how do they explain the sex change, oh, interesting times lie ahead of us!

A feminist is a person who fights for the social, political and economic equality of the sexes. So of course you're a feminist.

With "when it comes to feminist practise it makes a difference where you live", I mean simply this: There are countries that are more equal than others, and it takes different actions to achieve more equality. I agree with you, even in Austria we're far from real equality, not to speak of other countries. In Austria man and woman are equal in, in front of and through the law. That's something the US still hasn't. Therefore I say it depends on where you live - according to this we need to take different steps, sometimes to tackle the same problems, sometimes not the same ones.

We can also look into the US again, where the Indian Wars only ended in 1924, and the Native Americans weren't allowed to vote until into the 1980s. That is something that apalls me, nevermind that by doing so they lost their citizenship to their own nations. Of course there are differences between Saudi-Arabia and Switzerland, but that's why we need different strategies in order to achieve gender equality. Lots of work that needs to be done in Saudi Arabia is achieved in Switzerland, and many things that can be achieved in Switzerland are maybe even unheard of in Saudi-Arabia. Thus different methods, see it like a race where some countries have a longer way to go than others.
To say it with Sookee in "Spit on the right-wing": Why has no one bombed this patriarchy?

About global feminist movements: So, I don't know how interconnected the people of the Women's March are, but they try to be intersectional and Women's March Global references local Woman's March accounts, if something important. So, maybe we already have a small international connected feminist movement.
About "Geschwisterlichkeit": I tend to sign my letters to my pen pals with liberte, egalite, solidarite. Because then nobody is excluded and all genders are included, and not just cis men.

The "jealous eyes" are a translation trouble, I was thinking of Argusaugen, because you seem to really keep an eye on your behaviour, and not just say it, but also do it.
It is a learning process, I need to learn too, other stuff, but still, I need to learn.

Gender roles are really, really harmful, and I know that men can also suffer from them. My questioning is not so much about whether I am a feminist, but more whether other feminists would see me as a feminist - radical feminists and especially TERFs can be a real pain in the bum. Let's just tear down the heteropatriarchy, that would help a lot. And if we're going to do it we can also get rid of all the transphobia, that would also be very, very good.

I'm not a typical woman either, I just fear that some might deny me my right to identify as a woman. That's what I fear, and therefore some might say (and I don't say anyone here does, but elsewhere) I cannot be a feminist because some might say you need to be a woman to be a feminist.
The expectations of the patriarchy towards are something I cannot fulfill, and therefore, let's just get rid of it, shall we? You know I already did a thing or two to bring the heteropatriarchy a bit in trouble, so when you ask me, we can continue anytime.

Women are not one homogenous, therefore I need to learn from the other ones, and I will help them as best as I can, and therefore I need to look at myself to not do something that harms my sisters. But I partially agree with you that men have to look more at their behaviour, because it is a fact that you are more on the winner's side than I am.

Make our voices heard? I'm glad we have the Frauen*volksbegehren 2.0 now in Austria and we can start here to get more equality, and break down restrictions. To say it with Gloria Steinem: "Double discrimination means double the work".

I agree with you: to wear a t-shirt is just not enough to be celebrated for, and when we think about what the women on whose shoulders we now stand did already, then in my opinion it is an insult to them to celebrate men for something so easy as to wear a special t-shirt.

If anyone reads this -thanks- it was a lot of work.

Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, it's when the adrenal glands produce too much male sex hormones, and the individual would slowly masculinize without intervention. At least that's what I understood for now, it's a bit tricky, this one.

Sorry for not explaining earlier.

Emma wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJrN...

Why, just why didn't I come across this video earlier? It's so great!"

That is a great video! On the topic of videos on intersex,..."

"XXY" is a really good movie, I agree. I don't think it's easy to watch it the first time, but so worth it. A really good movie.

And XXY is actually an intersex variation, I just forgot now if the main character has this one... no, wait, that's not possible. The main character has CAH. (Today my brain really is working slow... uh)

Ross wrote: "This is an interesting thread about Feminism in the media but it also brings up the convers is there some areas of media and debate where feminism is missing. Poltics is in focus throughtout the we..."

That's a point which we have to take care of/we have to consider.

Ana wrote: "The original name of this thread is Make-up - Feminist or Not?

In my opinion, this thread would do much better with a renaming. Make up, in and of itself, is neither feminist nor unfeminist. It's ..."

I'm with Ana here, me not using make-up doesn't make me a feminist, and if someone uses make-up they're not feminist either.

I think it comes down to the choice of a person - why do they, or why don't they use make-up.
And the rise in more "natural" looks might have to do with the general direction of heading towards more natural products in general, when we think of food and cosmetics and clothes.

Sascha wrote: ""Ich fänd's unanständig, kein*e Feminist*in zu sein."

"I would find it indecent to be no feminist"

- Sookee"

Sookee for president;)


Ross wrote: "It does not matter if you are seen as a "bad" feminist or a "good" feminist just an effective one. -Ross Taggart

thought I would join the eminent group :)"

;)

Keith wrote: "I can't really add anything except a face palm

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/15/chancel..."

face palm indeed:(

Keith wrote: "@Sascha @Meerder

To both of you - I think you both bring passion and integrity to our conversations. I also see you both as feminists, but it's not for me to say so; it's a personal declaration th..."

I myself definitely label myself a feminist, but I doubt certain other feminists. But then, those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter.

It makes me happy that you explore new areas;)

OSS is family;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJrN...

Why, just why didn't I come across this video earlier? It's so great!

Sascha wrote: "Well, for me as a guy this is a question and discussion which is a bit tricky! Of course I think that feminism is necessary and desirable. I personally think that the idea of living in a world and ..."

You definitely don't take this lightly, if only everyone would watch his behaviour so keen-eyed. To behave like a feminist might mean something else for everyone according to the country we live in. It might need something else because we all don't live in the same society.

From what you write I believe that you keep a jealous watch over yourself, your behaviour, and let's face it, no one can always make everything right. The important thing is to always aim for the higher road, which you do from what I can read, and I think you're allowed to call yourself a feminist. But maybe we have the same "problem", because I don't know if I can call myself a feminist either, I'm sure there are feminists out there who would say: How can she?

There is nothing wrong with contructive criticism, the problem is if it's out of proportion. While women who do lots for feminism are critizised very much sometimes, men who do only the slightest are applauded and heaved into heaven. That's just unfair. When really small acts like wearing a certain t-shirt or calling out someone for their behaviour towards women is applauded so much, and really big steps are mostly critizised all the time, then that isn't very good for the psyche of the person who's critizised.

Especially your last paragraph is about a topic that I think is important for everyone who is an ally, to listen is more important than to speak. And never make it about yourself.

Pardon me for my English, my brain is still in sleep-mode.

I was thinking that it would be nice to have a topic dedicated to quotes by feminists, or quotes that are feminist.

Ich denke, es ist Zeit, daran zu erinnern: Die Vision des Feminismus ist nicht eine 'weibliche Zukunft'. Es ist eine menschliche Zukunft. Ohne Rollenzwänge, ohne Macht- und Gewaltverhältnisse, ohne Männerbündelei und Weiblichkeitswahn.
Johanna Dohnal


I think it is time to remember: The vision of feminism is not a "female future". It is a human(e) future. Without role coercion, without power- and violencestructures, without men bonding and obsession with feminity.
Joanna Dohnal