MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

Kate wrote: "http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/...

Hi! This is a really interesting documentary about the murder of over decades of more than a thousand in..."

We're talking about MMIW now? Very important! And so tragic.

EDIT: It only works in the UK;(

Sascha wrote: "D.J. wrote: "There is also a broader point that this mass of women were not card-carrying feminists, but by 'doing their bit' and simply answering the call to serve their country they were acting i..."

Sascha, maybe D.J. wasn't speaking of the flags of countries, but the flag of feminism? Like, flags are a symbol and while I have never seen a flag of feminism yet, I think this would be a really good idea.

Scott wrote: "Ashley wrote: "Scott wrote: "I wonder how many men in the group who read this will be "the choir." The kind of people who most need to read this book will be the ones who don't.

I do feel like sh..."

The Beauty Myth hurts people, it really does. It draws a wrong picture of the individuals, which is why it is very bad.

Clarissa wrote: "The US military released a statement saying that they have not received anything that even proposes trans people are banned from the military and will still be accepting them. I don't think the mil..."

That's definitely a good thing. What was this all about then, tho? I mean, if the US military didn't receive anything, but Trump publicly spoke about it, (on Twitter as well, as usual). How much effect will this have? The muslim ban is now partially in force too, so, I hope this doesn't take the same road?

I'd like to say one thing to Trump: "%!/$ YOU!"

HRT sucks(at least for me personally), and considering that they go into battle where their medication might not be available.
That's courage, in my eyes.

Robert wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "I think I need to convince my parents that they let me the internet. And don't cut it off like last time.

For saturday!"

You can always go to a club! :))))"

Yeah, clubbing and me is TOTALLY a thing!

I think I need to convince my parents that they let me the internet. And don't cut it off like last time.

For saturday!

Now I am curious what he said:
http://www.w24.co.za/Wellness/Mind/Wh...

But then, I think I'd rather not find out.

The thing that is important about so called "faces" feminism is, as Ross has said already, tha they are neither gurus nor gods. They help get new people on the track of feminism, and definitely help further a feminist mindset.

In my opinion it is difficult to make out one face for each wave, it always depends on your demographics and where you are from, I suppose. It can be difficult even in one country; but then, I don't think we need ONE face, a few are fine too.

Thank you all for your kind words, I really don't know what to say.

Thanks for giving me a home.

Dear OurSharedShelf!

You are my second family!
I need to tell you something. Something about me. Something that meant a lot of hurt for me so far.
It takes a lot of balls to talk about this, it does:


I am intersex.


It's pretty difficult to write this down actually, because I never did this before, but I feel I need to. For my brothers and sisters, my siblings. Who were here before me, and will be here after me. Who are here.

We are here. We exist. We are beautiful. We need not be altered. There was nothing wrong with me, only with how society views gender and sex.

It wasn't an easy journey so far, and I know it won't be easy, but this is my journey, and I will walk the walk and talk the talk. Our genitals remain to us, they are no one else's business. They are ours and the people we confide in.
It is so hurtful to see all the same things happen again and again; they put their noses in businesses that are not theirs. Recurring thoughts, again and again. About all the bad shit that happened to my kind.

I am done with it, I won't be silent.

Feminism is the social, political and economic equality of the sexes, isn't it?

I am a woman.
"Double discrimination means double the work"
~Gloria Steinem

OurSharedShelf, you are my home when my home isn't my home.

https://westmichiganwoman.com/blog/it...

"People kept asking what was wrong with me, and I had a sudden violent urge to scream, "Nothing is wrong with me!"

I'm just different."


"To you, I say, "You aren't alone. I am here, too.""

Denise wrote: "Sorry- but it makes an interesting addition background information. In the part of Africa where Apostle Darlan lives, intersex lives are not valued; many are killed at birth and in childhood. He (D..."

I definitely agree with you Denise, the sad thing is. that intersex people don't have it that much better in the Western World either. I've listened to it now and I'd say it's a pretty good interview/documentary. I needed to stop for a few minutes, because of the atrocities that happen, but now that I finished listening to it, I'd say everyone who wants to help intersex people needs to listen to it.

Don't apologize, it's great that you shared it with us.

I'm gonna listen to this later... it's available also outside of the UK.


Btw, a "resource" wasn't really what I was thinking of. A discussion was more what I was thinking of.

MaryJane wrote: "No one should influence her decision or make her feel inadequate for her natural breasts. "

That's so important to remember.
You just made me happier with this.

Now that's a quote, Sascha. How awesome!

I assume the problem many people have is how genderfluidity means this shifting, and not being set somewhere.

That's definitely a powerful quote!

Hero for the planet, what an honour.

Shayesteh wrote: "I'd like to join as well, my Skype is shayestehkhosravi, and my Gmail is khosravi.shayestehh@gmail.com"

I sent you a request. Then I can add.

A really big thing here is privilege. Because, if you want to hear it or not, cisgender people are privileged, that's just a fact.

So, Ryan, you mention the sex/gender, or nature/nurture debate. To be honest, I think there needs to be more research done, from a queer point of view, not a heteronormative one. We had that up and down already. Gender cannot be totally socially constructed, or otherwise intersex persons and transgender people wouldn't have the struggles they have. They would just conform to the gender they were raised in.
You say you cannot understand what non-binary people go through on a daily basis. I'm not sure if I can, but I know that the binary can suck very much.
What do you mean with "both sides of the coin"? Agreement and disagreement? Or cisgender and transgender? Because everything that is not cisgender is transgender.
I agree with you, that there is more evidence for the traditional view, but then as I said above, the mindset with which it was examined was a traditional (meaning heteronormative) one.
I see why you have a feeling of this having an aggressive nature, but I'll tell you this, and please, don't take it as an offense: When the very existence of oneself is non-existent in the public eye, or among people oneself holds dearly, then this makes oneself aggressive, believe me, it really does. One could argue it the other way around: The heteronormative mindset has been shoved down our throats for long enough, and I don't hold anything against heterosexual cisgender people, but when one sees them all the time and never oneself, then this makes one aggressive.
When it comes to acknowledging, it is always important to listen to those you want to acknowledge, because otherwise you might do more harm than good.
Now, you mentioned #racefluid, and I have to say I don't really understand what you want to say with this. First, I know I am not the person that has a say in this, but as far as I understand it, one cannot be racefluid. I said I am not someone who has a say in this because I'm totally white, and therefore if a person who is mixed might wanna say something to this, I'm glad to hear.
You also bring up language, and language is so important in the gender debate, because of pronouns. One intersex person I got to know uses the Swedish word "hen" to describe themselves, because hen don't think the German language has any pronouns for hen to offer that would suit.
And now for the pronoun debate: Just ask yourself if you would be fine with being adressed with a different pronoun. You probably aren't, and I just wish mutual respect for each other's choice of pronouns. It's actually very simple.

Ross, I still need to come to a conclusion if gender is a total construct, because the case of David Reimer showed us that gender isn't totally nurture, there also must be some nature in it. I would say tho that gender expression is completely socially learned.

Ana, I agree with you, cisgender people have privileges that transgender people don't have. Not being questioned for example. That is such a huge privilege...
And I second you that no one is entitled to disagree with someone's choice of pronouns. I wouldn't even say it's polite to respect pronoun choice, for me that's just something that needs to be done.

I see the ending positive. Especially the historical notes make me think that she escaped to Canada and could settle for a calm life. She knew how it was before Gilead, therefore it mustn't have been that difficult for her.

But I can also see her joining the resistance, although I see that less likely, (view spoiler)[since she is expecting Nick's child. My guess is that Ofglen II has turned her in, since neither Serena nor the Commander did it. (hide spoiler)]

I really thought she was going to end her life, when she was in her room thinking of possibilities what to do. The one I thought is really interesting is when she said she should kill Serena (that's what she was thinking of, wasn't she? Because she said she would put them both out of their misery.

What really saddens me is that we know that Gilead lasted for at least more than generation, and so I know that even if Offred has joined the resistance, she wasn't able to tear it down, this totally fucked up system of a society. Sorry for language, but this book gave me really troubles.