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message 2701: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Even when you think you've got it right, and sales come as a consequence, it could actually be pure luck and have nothing to do with all the marketing you've set in place.


message 2702: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Absolutely David.
It's a gamble, we're flying totally blind.

I think the best route is

1) Have a big web presence, perhaps be known on various forums where there's a lot of fan fiction.

2) Write a book

3) Let other people on all these boards know you're writing a book

4) Start organising a blog tour

5) Publish the book


message 2703: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments 6) Then write some more books!


message 2704: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Lots more books!

It's a tough gig, standing in front of customers, waving one book and saying : Hey, I've got a series!

(Trust me on that, I've done it... It's a lot easier after book 3 comes out)


message 2705: by M.T. (last edited Sep 02, 2014 05:52AM) (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Hi Kevin, I'm the MTM mentioned. I have a series of four books out and I made the first one perma free. Thoughts so far, yes, it works, in that for the last two months I've sold 12 or 13 books rather than 1 or 2. I usually have someone, somewhere download my free book every day. I would say that in the UK about 20% of those who download go on to buy book 2. Out of the first chunk of just over 100 downloads here I had 20 purchases of the second book. In the US it took me about 900 downloads of the free book to get that number of purchases.

There are various sites where you can advertise your free book and you do need to do that, and resubmit it from time to time, to get noticed and have downloads. The big one, BookBub, are fussy about who they accept, although the only two books I downloaded from them were actually great stories, shockingly badly told.

Also, I think it might be worth fluctuating the price so that it's not always free. It's a massive ballache though, so I haven't tried that thus far.

The review rate is very low, mostly it's friends or members of a book review circle I'm in the Rave Reviews Book Club - they charge an entry fee now but I joined when it was free. Anyone who does join, do mention my name won't you!

Um... yeh so reviews are normally mates which shows that you should use the forums as your watercooler. And blog. Blogging is good too.

Cheers

MTM


message 2706: by Kevin (last edited Sep 02, 2014 07:40AM) (new)

Kevin Marsh | 616 comments Hello MTM,

Good to hear from you.
Thanks for this info, its great to hear that others are having or have had the same problems as me.

I have just persuaded my publisher to reduce the cost of my first book, The Belgae Torc, (Kindle copy) to £2.99. He wouldn't go any lower, but we will keep an eye on feedback and respond when necessary.

Regards

Kevin


message 2707: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments If the price does get reduced then make sure EVERYBODY knows. If The Belgae Torcis reduced, the world deserves to know.
There's a thread somewhere for price drops, there's your author thread, stick it on facebook, hope other friends mention it as well


message 2708: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments £ 2.99 is a decent price point, Kevin.

it raises you out of the horde of 99p authors and suggests that you value the work (plus it's one indication that you have a publisher behind you) highly, without being too costly for someone to have a punt on a new author.


message 2709: by Kevin (new)

Kevin Marsh | 616 comments Thanks Will,

I like the sound of this!

Regards


message 2710: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments And make sure that you have a functioning website and a separate (but linked) blog, too!


message 2711: by Kevin (new)

Kevin Marsh | 616 comments I have a website and a blog, (linked).
Just need to find time to update them. :-)


message 2712: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Ah, time...


message 2713: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Will wrote: "Ah, time..."

I had some once.


message 2714: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Whatever did you do with it?


message 2715: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Time? Not sure I understand the concept.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments David wrote: "Time? Not sure I understand the concept."

Its all that wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.


message 2717: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Honestly? I didn't do any worse at £2.99 than I'm doing now at £1.99. Despite what Amazon's wobbly bobbly graphy waphy might suggest.


Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8590 comments What's going on in here? You all seem to have lost the ability to speak


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments They must have been drinking whisky.


message 2720: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments That Smith fellow started it. Blame him.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments What Smith fellow?


message 2722: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments The one who invented wibbly wobbly timey wimey of course!


message 2724: by Tim (last edited Sep 02, 2014 01:54PM) (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Gingerlily - Elephant Philosopher wrote: "What Smith fellow?"

Matt.

Although I don't think he invented it -- Tenant was certainly using it.


message 2725: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments I don't recall Tennant using it?


message 2726: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Will wrote: "Ah, time..."

I'm sorry, what's that?


message 2727: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments I just wanted to say thanks for the review... Which I've only just found.

Cheers

MTM


message 2728: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Hey, it's a cracking book.
Actually I tend to look at all four books as one book, and they're a cracking read :-)


message 2729: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Jim wrote: "Hey, it's a cracking book.
Actually I tend to look at all four books as one book, and they're a cracking read :-)"


Bless you! Thanks. I'm still very grateful.You're right about the one book in many respects it is one story which is divided up in three convenient places. And as an author it feels more as if I have my first book out after my fourth, because it's the first complete story arc, so to speak.

Cheers

MTM


message 2730: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments And it holds together. It's got a real breadth and depth of vision. As I said, a cracking book


message 2731: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Interesting article, apparently e-books are the best way forward for those writing in different genres

http://www.wired.com/2013/06/digital-...


message 2732: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments It would be nice to think Sci-fi and fantasy sales are on the up, but by my experience thrillers are still king.


message 2733: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Do you think that follows on from the comment that ereaders are being used by those who read many books a month just for entertainment?


message 2734: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments It does hold together. On holiday we called in to see friends and he had a bookcase filled with hardbacks, Lee Child and similar authors. But he's someone who tends to savour his reading and will probably re-read them.

But I think we get people who read voraciously and they're the ones who will read a book a day and are really looking for the £1 e-books if only to keep the cost of their addiction down :-(


message 2735: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Romance is definitely where the money is. If I could write romance...
(which is probably why one of my recent reviews said "obviously written by a man." Ho hum. )


message 2736: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments I can't write romance either, Tim. I don't have a big enough sick-bucket!


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments I overdosed on Mills and Boon as a teenager, and now I'm allergic to romance. The only ones I can read without the sick bucket are Georgette Heyer.


message 2738: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments My sister reads Georgette Heyer. That put me off ever looking at her stuff (not that I'm into romance, anyway. As my ex would happily tell you)


message 2739: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments My mum used to read her. Ditto with the off-putting.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments I read her and then got my mum interested.


message 2741: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Thank you again, Jim.

I think I could write a romance. I'd kind of like to, although in my own terms of romance, I think I probably already have. I suppose there'd have to be a bit less of the idealistic stuff and a few more scenes like the one with General Moteurs and Deirdre behind the door.

I have to confess, my Mum loves Georgette Heyer and I read one and enjoyed it too. But then, they are really well researched. Heyer did loads of research in to colloquial Regency speech to get her characters right. And it has frock coats and swords in it. I'm a sucker for a sword fight... and a frock coat... and a snog at the end. Mwha ahahargh!

If I wrote a romance, though, it would have to ring truer than the usual types (I've tried reading some) where two people who are obviously destined together fall out and spend a whole book arguing about nothing... and I'd probably go and set it in space.

Cheers

MTM


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments And call it 'Lust in Space'?


message 2743: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Mwhahahharhg! What have you done. I'm seriously considering a spoof now, just so I can use that title.

Cheers

MTM


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments *evil laughter*


message 2745: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8051 comments Talking of which... have I introduced you to the Admiral Ackbar tomato? I've stuck the picture on my thread... feeling a bit naughty about using Jim's


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments I saw it on facebook. Excellent! Speaking of which, did you see the picture I put on your timeline?


message 2747: by Jim (last edited Sep 22, 2014 04:57AM) (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Kath wrote: "I can't write romance either, Tim. I don't have a big enough sick-bucket!"

I did write romance!

Stops as everybody goes quiet and turns to stare

It's one of the stories in Romantic Heroes
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KWAO856

Someone here read my contribution. It made her day, she got the chance to use the phrase, "It's Romance Jim, but not as we know it."
That's an opportunity which doesn't come round all that often


message 2748: by Philip (new)

Philip Whiteland | 3397 comments Now that's what I call a good review :-)


message 2749: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Jim wrote: "Someone here read my contribution. It made her day, she got the chance to use the phrase, "It's Romance Jim, but not as we know it."
That's an opportunity which doesn't come round all that often "


At least I could get close to that...


message 2750: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Will wrote: "I don't recall Tennant using it?"

From the Hugo-winning "Blink": http://youtu.be/vY_Ry8J_jdw

"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a nonlinear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff."


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