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Books/Series you never plan to read...and why?
When it comes to anime, I prefer Japanese stories, in Japanese with English subtitles. My youngest son tried for years to get me to share his interest in Japanese anime, but failed until he finally had me watch 'Slayers: The Motion Picture'.After that, I went out and got all of the 'Slayers' series.
Chelsea wrote: "One man's sirens are another man's giant, demonic albino sperm whale. Totally the same, except for the part where Moby Dick is a terrible book, and Homer's Odyssey is told with beautifully nuanced language. "Agreed. But Odysseus was so full of himself. So full.
ANd I hated Moby Dick. Got kicked out of class once for being to obvious about my feelings...lol!
MrsJoseph wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Yes, I would have because he had a novel already written when he wrote Drizzt, but nobody would published because he was unknown. He had to establish himself first. It was written bac..."What are trying to say?
Kevin wrote: "Yes, I would have because he had a novel already written when he wrote Drizzt, but nobody would published because he was unknown. He had to establish himself first. It was written back in 1984, but it was not published until 1991. Its called Echoes of the Fourth Magic..."Ahem. It probably never got published until he was a big name, because it sucked.
Chris wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Yes, I would have because he had a novel already written when he wrote Drizzt, but nobody would published because he was unknown. He had to establish himself first. It was written bac..."Hey, why do all of a sudden pop back in here just because everyone is Salvatore bashing just to be against me?
Kevin wrote: "Its D&D's fault because if he was thinking about D&D related races, then Dark Elves would never have popped into his head. Also he was writing for D&D. "You can't blame D&D for Salvatore selling his soul to publishers and not having an original thought in his head.
But John Scalizi on the other hand...much more original and refreshing. At least he's not writing books based on a game.
No, I popped back in here because there are only two people on GR that have ever heard of Echoes of the Fourth Magic, and I'm the other one.And it sucked.
Kevin wrote: "Hey, why do all of a sudden pop back in here just because everyone is Salvatore bashing just to be against me? "Dude. Seriously?
Bashing you??
You're RA Salvatore?
*face palm*
I can no longer talk to you, old boy. You seem to have lost what is left of your mind.
Now going back to our regularly scheduled program.
Chris wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Yes, I would have because he had a novel already written when he wrote Drizzt, but nobody would published because he was unknown. He had to establish himself first. It was written bac..."Hey, you also got to take into account that its the 80s, fantasy was just evolving, so it might have sucked compared to today's standards.
Also so what if its not his best work. I would like to see you get a book published, its a tough business to get into man.
I'd love to get a book published too. Amen to that.I'd say that Echoes sucked compared to Salvatore's standards. I read it because I enjoyed the Drizzt books.
Oh, but the sequel was even worse.
Chris wrote: "No, I popped back in here because there are only two people on GR that have ever heard of Echoes of the Fourth Magic, and I'm the other one.And it sucked."
Then how come there are more than 250 users who rated the book, and Maggie was one of them. She actually gave the book a four stars.
Chris - Would you care to define hyperbole for the class?
Kevin, laddie. You really must learn not to take me so literally.
S.J. wrote: "When it comes to anime, I prefer Japanese stories, in Japanese with English subtitles. My youngest son tried for years to get me to share his interest in Japanese anime, but failed until he finally..."I loved Ghost in the Shell (original) but couldn't get into anything else except Zatch Bell.
My husband watches Bleach and Naurato (which means i watch it too, lol).
Heh..sure.Hyperbole ( /haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-PUR-bə-lee;[1] Greek: ὑπερβολή, 'exaggeration') is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.[2]
And before I'm accused of stealing ideas, that was a copy/paste from Wikipedia.
Wouldn't want anyone boycotting my soon to be published books or anything.
As a side note, I effing hate the whole "you can't critique this book 'cause you've never written your own!" thing. Hate it. Besides, by that logic, Kevin would have no business talking about how derivative Scalzi is or is not since he is not, last I've heard, a published author.
Chelsea wrote: "One man's sirens are another man's giant, demonic albino sperm whale. Totally t..."*chortle*
Chelsea wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: "Exactly!And let's not forget the boat ideas! Oh my! Moby DicK...or should we say The Odyssey?? "
One man's sirens are another man's giant, demonic albino sperm whale. Totally t..."
I hate to break this to you, but The Whale and The Odyssey have little or nothing to do with one another other than there is water and a ship involved.
In recent scholarship regarding The Odyssey at University of Athens among others, The Odyssey has been shown to have been a sea fairer's musical chant or oral guide to sailing the Greek Archipelago.
The Odyssey may not be as fictitious or fantastical as long was believed. After all, Calvert and Schleimann did find Troy. Of course there is a mythic Troy too that has stories that, at least so far, are not all historical.
Carol wrote: "Chelsea wrote: "One man's sirens are another man's giant, demonic albino sperm whale. Totally t..."*chortle*"
My husband & I were talking about that book a few days ago.
He blames Moby.
*face palm*
While we're defining things, would anyone care to define facetious for the class?
CD wrote: "I hate to break this to you, but The Whale and The Odyssey have little or nothing to do with one another other than there is water and a ship involved"Ah, understanding has been reached, but sarcasm not conveyed. I think that was pretty much the point, as the debate started with complaining a particular book was "derivative" of another, when in fact they have only the loosest of similarities.
± Colleen of the Crawling Chaos ± wrote: "Chris - Would you care to define hyperbole for the class?"Sure now you come back too after all that time lying and waiting.
CD wrote: "I hate to break this to you, but The Whale and The Odyssey have little or nothing to do with one another other than there is water and a ship involved.In recent scholarship regarding The Odyssey at University of Athens among others, The Odyssey has been shown to have been a sea fairer's musical chant or oral guide to sailing the Greek Archipelago.
The Odyssey may not be as fictitious or fantastical as long was believed. After all, Calvert and Schleimann did find Troy. Of course there is a mythic Troy too that has stories that, at least so far, are not all historical. "
Carol wrote: "Ah, understanding has been reached, but sarcasm not conveyed. I think that was pretty much the point, as the debate started with complaining a particular book was "derivative" of another, when in fact they have only the loosest of similarities. "
^This
Chris wrote: "I'd love to get a book published too. Amen to that.I'd say that Echoes sucked compared to Salvatore's standards. I read it because I enjoyed the Drizzt books.
Oh, but the sequel was even wo..."
If you're talking about R.A. Salvatore, I think all of his books are not good and can't live up to the standard of any of his Drizzt books. In certain books, he tries to write other characters like Drizzt, but it fails for me really bad.
*strolls casually into thread**waits for it*
Kevin wrote: "± Colleen of the Crawling Chaos ± wrote: "Chris - Would you care to define hyperbole for the class?"Sure now you come back too after all that time lying and waiting."
Are you effing kidding me? "All that time lying and waiting"? You mean the 4 hours and 45 minutes since my sarcastic new flash? You mean the time when I was, oh, I don't know - doing other things? Like my job. (And eating lunch.)
Ya know, I changed my avi for moments just like this. I think she pretty much captures my feelings right about now...
Kevin wrote: "If you're talking about R.A. Salvatore, I think all of his books are not good and can't live up to the standard of any of his Drizzt books. In certain books, he tries to write other characters like Drizzt, but it fails for me really bad..."This was pretty much my point. After he sold all those D&D novels and made millions for TSR (the publisher at the time), he could probably have sold a book based on a sperm whale. It didn't have to be good, it just had to sell.
Yeah, when something that are some posts related to me and R.A. Salvatore, they all feel like they need come back and rejoin the group. You know who you are!
We flock to watch stupidity like moths to a flame, this cannot be denied. It's 3:00pm on a Friday, I'm at work trying to will away the last hour so I can get out of here and hit up happy hour... I'm not ashamed.
Kevin wrote: "Yeah, when something that are some posts related to me and R.A. Salvatore, they all feel like they need come back and rejoin the group. You know who you are!"I never left this group, and I commented long before Salvatore got brought up.
Umm, this isn't about Salvatore bashing and Kevinbanging by the Mean Girls.It's about calling you on stupid shit. You bash Scalzi for playing homage to classics that he enjoyed. Yet you praise an author that made his career as a sword-for-hire by a game publisher. A game that borrowed everything.
Then he borrowed the ideas from the gaming company.
Carol wrote: "Ah, understanding has been reached, but sarcasm not conveyed. I think that was pretty much the point, as the debate started with complaining a particular book was "derivative" of another, when in fact they have only the loosest of similarities. "Yikes!
I have to get back to work
Chris wrote: "Umm, this isn't about Salvatore bashing and Kevinbanging by the Mean Girls.It's about calling you on stupid shit. You bash Scalzi for playing homage to classics that he enjoyed. Yet you praise ..."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm actually kinda flattered that someone noticed I had left the group.
Chris,I just follow you to other ones =D
I mean really, that's the dumbest thing I've seen since White Wolf Publishing tried to sue the makers of Underworld for stealing their idea of vampires.
Or Orson Scott Card accused JK Rowling of stealing his Ender ideas and turning it into Harry Potter.Waits for it....
Laurel wrote: "Chris,I just follow you to other ones =D"
Hehe..
Oh Chris, you know I always notice when you're missing ;)
Carol wrote: "CD wrote: "I hate to break this to you, but The Whale and The Odyssey have little or nothing to do with one another other than there is water and a ship involved"Ah, understanding has been reach..."
Thanks Carol. I've done a close reading of Moby Dick and I've translated Odysseus out of ancient Greek, and I know they're not the same, I just wanted to be sarcastic.
Chris wrote: "I mean really, that's the dumbest thing I've seen since White Wolf Publishing tried to sue the makers of Underworld for stealing their idea of vampires."*blinks* Seriously? That happened?
Refer to avi again...
Chris wrote: "Umm, this isn't about Salvatore bashing and Kevinbanging by the Mean Girls.It's about calling you on stupid shit. You bash Scalzi for playing homage to classics that he enjoyed. Yet you praise ..."
Yes, I agree with you on it, but I don't blame him, as I've said it all started with Dungeons and Dragons. I mean take a look at halfings, they're basically Hobbits.
± Colleen of the Crawling Chaos ± wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Yeah, when something that are some posts related to me and R.A. Salvatore, they all feel like they need come back and rejoin the group. You know who you are!"I never left this group..."
Sorry! My bad!
CD wrote: "Yikes!I have to get back to work "
Don't worry about it...
Now come play with us and play hooky at work:)
I leave to go do some work and this is what I find. SMH.
Kevin wrote: "Yes, I agree with you on it, but I don't blame him, but the game company...."I'll agree with you on blaming the game if you can show me that
1. Salvatore did not accept money for his work.
2. Salvatore did not get rich off the deal.
3. They held a gun to his head and made him sign.
That said, it is pretty impressive how Salvatore's career ended up as it did.
Blame the game, not the player...
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Its D&D's fault because if he was thinking about D&D related races, then Dark Elves would never have popped into his head. Also he was writing for D&D.