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Piper or Reyna ? Who should Jason choose?

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TooManyFeelsToDeal Hazelmallorn wrote: "Piper is a total flunk. She's annoying, and a stupid daughter of Aphrodite. Now tell me again. Who is Aphrodite? Oh, right, the goddess of LOVE AND BEAUTY. I remember that one. Reyna, however, is a..."

oh i dont know hazel might fall for leo because she aparently really liked him in a past life


message 152: by [deleted user] (new)

But that was about 70 years ago! And what about Frank?


Michael Love triangles!


Percyjacksonrox!!! Ikr!! There's gnna either be lots of drama or no drama at all...I'm rooting for lots of drama!!;)


message 155: by Azhia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Azhia Honestly I like them both , but I'm rooting for Reyna even though the odds are against her


message 156: by Sonia (last edited Mar 11, 2012 01:58PM) (new)

Sonia Bethany wrote: "Piper. Jason already admitted that he liked her and Reyna seems a little shallow and we don't know a whole lot about her. It's actually rather ironic. Most children of Aphrodite will be self center..."
Reyna is NOT shallow!!!And how is Piper not self-centered?


message 157: by Sonia (new)

Sonia Hazelmallorn wrote: "Piper is a total flunk. She's annoying, and a stupid daughter of Aphrodite. Now tell me again. Who is Aphrodite? Oh, right, the goddess of LOVE AND BEAUTY. I remember that one. Reyna, however, is a..."
I don't really think Piper would ever take to Leo.But, unfortunately(and i mean unfortunately), i think jason feels sorry for piper BECAUSE she was tricked by the mist.


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UGGH.


message 159: by Wanita (new) - rated it 4 stars

Wanita Piper. Definetley, Piper


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Wanita Hey, you know, I like Reyna 'cause she's strong and capable, yet I REALLY don't think that she shoild date Jason. I like Piper 'cause pretty, cable, strong, able, and, most of all, COOL. Reyna (in my opinion!!!) is sooooooooooo not cool. And I think that Piper is tooooooootally right for Jason.


message 161: by [deleted user] (new)

Ahem. Piper is NOT cool. And Reyna is. Besides, Piper/Leo may not fit very well, but...Reyna/Leo is just UNTHINKABLE. And seriously. Reyna CAN'T end up single. She's just too important. And Piper isn't strong. Just saying.


Percyjacksonrox!!! Jason/Reyna and Piper/Leo, then all of the seven would be paired up with someone!


message 163: by Victor (new) - rated it 5 stars

Victor Aguilar definitely Piper, she is very nice and is way hotter than Reyna lol. I hope Rick Riordan pairs Piper with Jason :)


message 164: by Victor (new) - rated it 5 stars

Victor Aguilar i think the couples will end up like this:
.Frank and Hazel
.Percy and Annabeth
.Piper and Jason
.Leo= too annoying to get a girlfriend
.Reyna= too selfish and annoying


message 165: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 13, 2012 01:24PM) (new)

i think that it'll be piper and jason and wait for it(it's pretty weird), leo and Reyna, because at the beginning Annabeth and Percy didn't like each other, look where it got them. so leo's like percy (sort of) and reyna is like annabeth( only metaphorically, they are both tough, but annabeth is waaaaaaaaaaaaay cooler) that's my theory;) and i know it's a bit insane, but i am insane:)


message 166: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Piper is better suited and reyneas too serious for Jason and they both have already admitted to being attracted to each Other besides reyna Is not part of the seven but piper Is and reyna is. Or as important to the plot besides they will ( Jason and piper) fall in love along the way


message 167: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 14, 2012 01:22PM) (new)

...so, is it still delusional that Leo and Reyna will end up together? i mean i'm not saying it will happen, but it could. but the main point is that Piper and Jason(in my opinion) will end up together.either way it's up to Rick Riordan:)


SpreadYourWings i think he will keep both as friends
The books show clues to that...
I dont know 4 sure but i think that's it:)


message 169: by Melody (new) - rated it 4 stars

Melody PIPER!!! Jason loves her!!!!


message 170: by Hannah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hannah Piper :)


message 171: by Sonia (new)

Sonia Jason/Piper;Percy/Annabeth;Frank/Hazel;Reyna/Leo is likely in my opinion.I REALLY think someone as funny and good-natured as Leo would be good for poor,heartbroken,strict,serious Reyna.


message 172: by Melody (new) - rated it 4 stars

Melody I think if they paired it would be adorable!


SpreadYourWings Sonia wrote: "Reyna WOULD end up single....That's probably going to happen, especially since Piper IS one of the main characters AND a daughter of Aphrodite,so she'd probably have a role like that.*Sigh* It's to..."

Im not goin 4 any1 but how is piper a brat???????????


message 174: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade Well... while reading The Lost Hero, I was analyzing the character development of each character and I have to say that I was a bit disappointed with Piper's. Sure, there was also something wrong with Leo and Jason but I kind of focused on Piper because she's the one that I'm trying hard to like the most because at first she seemed a decent one. I mean she's so pretty, nice and all those other characteristics that would make you want to tell that that person is perfect but I just kind of didn't 'feel' her character.

So when they were on the quest, I really tried liking her and observing her development and I'm not happy to say that she didn't (in my opinion) developed that much.

Personally, I think the flaws of a person makes that character more real. For example: Drew. She is mean, a flirt and a bully but don't we all have people like her in our lives? Then there's Octavian. He's more of like the antagonist but don't we all have a person like him that we encounter? There's also Rachel coming in between Percy and Annabeth. Then, there's Annabeth's pride and jealousy of Rachel (in the earlier books). But that's what makes them unique.

It's just that with Piper, I can't seem to find anything like those. Sure, her dad ignores her, she hates make-up and is like a tomboy, she gets kicked-out of school and is bullied by Drew, but what is her own flaw that makes her a 3D character?

I was just wondering. I don't mean to offend anyone. Plus, (for me only) she seems to be a bit clingy to Jason and I kind of don't like how she can suddenly 'charm speak' Jason to wake up without practicing with it at all. (For me) It's bad enough that she's overwhelmingly pretty and a bad-ass at the same time but making her have all those 'neat' powers without practicing in camp makes it a bit worse.

I mean I would love and adore her if I read the book when I'm around 9 or 10 but now that I'm five months away from being thirteen, I just can't can't seem to have a fandom of her. She's just flat, in my opinion.
I can't find anything else to make her realistic.

She's a bit too perfect, for me. And judging just from the Lightning Thief, her character is cheap and flat compared to Annabeth's, Percy's and Grover's. I'm sorry I had to write it but I'm merely expressing my own opinion.

Reyna, on the other hand, has things to make her interesting. Yes, she is strict, stiff and somewhat cold to others but that's what makes her mysterious and makes me want to see what's behind all that. She's strong but has a reason to be strong. She had a bad past and is willing to protect her home. She acts like she doesn't care but is willing to give things up for the legion. She's more of the type that I would want to read more about. It just makes me curious. She acts for her people and not only for her sake. It makes her somewhat like Annabeth, Rachel and Thalia: 3D characters.

If you're wondering why I'd say Rachel is a 3d character, I have several reasons:
1. She has a dad she doesn't like because of what he does, yet is willing to face his conditions for her friends.
2. Just as what Percy said, she's brave like Annabeth, only in another way.
3. She wasn't exactly described much physically but rather how she acts which makes me like her. It's more of about liking her because of all the dialogues and movement but not because of what other people think about her.
4. Despite the two stated above, she has flaws that makes her more realistic.

Same goes with Thalia and Annabeth.

Anyway, Piper is ok (even though for me, she's a flat character), and I'm interested in Reyna's character. I'd pick Reyna over Piper.

Reyna is the leader who's more like willing to make herself look bad for the sake of all. She's like willing to sacrifice her wants to satisfy others. It's just my opinion.

And if I was asked to pick who is better off with Jason, then it's Reyna for me.

Yes, they may not have been a couple but they may want to be. Besides, if Reyna is worried about Jason and is glad to have him back, there must have been more that a simple crush there to the point that she's willing to delay the elections.

Besides, we only heard it from Reyna's view. Who knows, Jason may have planned for them to be closer since his feelings may have been strong?

Anyway, I'd pick Jason/Reyna, and if it becomes Jason/Piper in the book, then I also have no objection. After all, I don't read the series for the sake of romance. I read it because of its substance.

Thanks anyways! The things stated above are all my own opinion. I don't mean to hurt anyone. I apologize in advance.

Thanks!


message 175: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade Well... while reading The Lost Hero, I was analyzing the character development of each character and I have to say that I was a bit disappointed with Piper's. Sure, there was also something wrong with Leo and Jason but I kind of focused on Piper because she's the one that I'm trying hard to like the most because at first she seemed a decent one. I mean she's so pretty, nice and all those other characteristics that would make you want to tell that that person is perfect but I just kind of didn't 'feel' her character.

So when they were on the quest, I really tried liking her and observing her development and I'm not happy to say that she didn't (in my opinion) developed that much.

Personally, I think the flaws of a person makes that character more real. For example: Drew. She is mean, a flirt and a bully but don't we all have people like her in our lives? Then there's Octavian. He's more of like the antagonist but don't we all have a person like him that we encounter? There's also Rachel coming in between Percy and Annabeth. Then, there's Annabeth's pride and jealousy of Rachel (in the earlier books). But that's what makes them unique.

It's just that with Piper, I can't seem to find anything like those. Sure, her dad ignores her, she hates make-up and is like a tomboy, she gets kicked-out of school and is bullied by Drew, but what is her own flaw that makes her a 3D character?

I was just wondering. I don't mean to offend anyone. Plus, (for me only) she seems to be a bit clingy to Jason and I kind of don't like how she can suddenly 'charm speak' Jason to wake up without practicing with it at all. (For me) It's bad enough that she's overwhelmingly pretty and a bad-ass at the same time but making her have all those 'neat' powers without practicing in camp makes it a bit worse.

I mean I would love and adore her if I read the book when I'm around 9 or 10 but now that I'm five months away from being thirteen, I just can't can't seem to have a fandom of her. She's just flat, in my opinion.
I can't find anything else to make her realistic.

She's a bit too perfect, for me. And judging just from the Lightning Thief, her character is cheap and flat compared to Annabeth's, Percy's and Grover's. I'm sorry I had to write it but I'm merely expressing my own opinion.

Reyna, on the other hand, has things to make her interesting. Yes, she is strict, stiff and somewhat cold to others but that's what makes her mysterious and makes me want to see what's behind all that. She's strong but has a reason to be strong. She had a bad past and is willing to protect her home. She acts like she doesn't care but is willing to give things up for the legion. She's more of the type that I would want to read more about. It just makes me curious. She acts for her people and not only for her sake. It makes her somewhat like Annabeth, Rachel and Thalia: 3D characters.

If you're wondering why I'd say Rachel is a 3d character, I have several reasons:
1. She has a dad she doesn't like because of what he does, yet is willing to face his conditions for her friends.
2. Just as what Percy said, she's brave like Annabeth, only in another way.
3. She wasn't exactly described much physically but rather how she acts which makes me like her. It's more of about liking her because of all the dialogues and movement but not because of what other people think about her.
4. Despite the two stated above, she has flaws that makes her more realistic.

Same goes with Thalia and Annabeth.

Anyway, Piper is ok (even though for me, she's a flat character), and I'm interested in Reyna's character. I'd pick Reyna over Piper.

Reyna is the leader who's more like willing to make herself look bad for the sake of all. She's like willing to sacrifice her wants to satisfy others. It's just my opinion.

And if I was asked to pick who is better off with Jason, then it's Reyna for me.

Yes, they may not have been a couple but they may want to be. Besides, if Reyna is worried about Jason and is glad to have him back, there must have been more that a simple crush there to the point that she's willing to delay the elections.

Besides, we only heard it from Reyna's view. Who knows, Jason may have planned for them to be closer since his feelings may have been strong?

Anyway, I'd pick Jason/Reyna, and if it becomes Jason/Piper in the book, then I also have no objection. After all, I don't read the series for the sake of romance. I read it because of its substance.

Thanks anyways! The things stated above are all my own opinion. I don't mean to hurt anyone. I apologize in advance.

Thanks!

But Reyna and Jason all the way for me! =))))


message 176: by Sonia (new)

Sonia Whoa.Loooong lists.But, yeah, I was thinking the same thing:She's waaaay too clingy with Jason.But I think she did have practice when she woke Jason up:All those people she charmspoke to give her stuff(Like BMWs).


Jazelle I like both Piper and Reyna! both strong-willed ladies. At The Lost Hero, i initially thought that Piper and Jason were THE couple. However, in the Son of Neptune glimpses about Reyna and Jason's relationship were seen. i'm a confused wrecked! prolly, i'll wait until the third, if Reyna and Jason's relationship is explored... then maybe. ugh. depends!


message 178: by Kate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kate I prefer Jason chose Reyna. Don't ask why, and don't start screaming at me.
I just never liked Piper's character. "Hi, I'm gorgeous and my dad's a movie star and I'm obsessed with some guy I thought I knew but I really didn't. Oh and did I mention I can convince you to do anything?" She just seems too perfect. People argue that reyna is too stiff and serious but everything said about her is said through someone else's point of view, so we don't know what she's really like.

But I have to admit the most likely couple is Jason/Piper. Sadly.


The Queen of Hearts Reyna. No questions. Reyna


message 180: by Melody (new) - rated it 4 stars

Melody I think that he as been through a whole lot more with Piper.


message 181: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade Mockingjay wrote: "I think that he as been through a whole lot more with Piper."

It depends though if Rick Riordan would consider whatever happened between Reyna and Jason but if he'll only focus on what happened after Hera took away Jason's memory then I'd agree with you.


message 182: by Kate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kate Mockingjay wrote: "I think that he as been through a whole lot more with Piper."

We don't know about that. Sure, maybe Jason and Reyna weren't in a relationship, but that doesn't mean that they haven't been through anything together. We just don't know because Jason barely regained his memory in The Lost Hero, and everything about Reyna was told in another's POV, so we don't know what really happened before.


message 183: by Kate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kate Ash wrote: "Piper is better suited and reyneas too serious for Jason and they both have already admitted to being attracted to each Other besides reyna Is not part of the seven but piper Is and reyna is. Or as..."

We don't know what Reyna is really like. She is described from Percy's point of view, not her own, so she's still keeping up the image of the confident leader. So for all we know, she could not be serious.
Jason's memory started returning in the end of The Lost Hero, so we also wouldn't know exactly what he felt for Reyna. But if he didn't like her in that way, why would the memory of her make him reconsider what he was doing with Piper?
Just because Reyna isn't one of the seven doesn't mean she can't be with someone who IS. There's no rule. Who says all of the seven demigods must be with another demigod of the seven?


message 184: by Kate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kate Neesh wrote: "i think that it'll be piper and jason and wait for it(it's pretty weird), leo and Reyna, because at the beginning Annabeth and Percy didn't like each other, look where it got them. so leo's like pe..."

I don't see how Leo is anything like Percy. I always compared JASON to Percy.
I thnk Leo will at least have a crush on reyna, because he tends to fall in love with girls who are way out of his league.

But it's a little more unlikely that REYNA will fall for LEO. I just can't imagine that.


message 185: by Kate (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kate Victor wrote: "i think the couples will end up like this:
.Frank and Hazel
.Percy and Annabeth
.Piper and Jason
.Leo= too annoying to get a girlfriend
.Reyna= too selfish and annoying"


Leo is so not annoying. he's just funny.
Also, Reyna is so not selfish or annoying. She's just stressed out. Think. The fate of Camp Jupiter rests on her shoulders. She doesn't have anyone to help her.


message 186: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade Kate wrote: "Ash wrote: "Piper is better suited and reyneas too serious for Jason and they both have already admitted to being attracted to each Other besides reyna Is not part of the seven but piper Is and rey..."

I agree with you. =))) I mean, if he really likes Piper, then his feelings for Reyna should also be strong considering that he is rethinking over his feelings for someone who he have strong feelings for. =))


message 187: by Echizen_kirino (new)

Echizen_kirino piper all the way! dattebayo!
Reyna tried to seduce Percy! so, I choose Piper!


message 188: by Nahanan (new) - added it

Nahanan well its jason's choice but i like reyna. but jason likes piper cuz he doesnt knoe reyna bcuz of hera so....


message 189: by Nguyen (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nguyen Ngoc REYNA!!!!


message 190: by Jenny (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenny Cobb Piper.


message 191: by Jinx (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jinx Sapphire Reyna is annoying


message 192: by Deena Beena (new)

Deena Beena Jamie wrote: "Reyna is annoying"

Agreed.


message 193: by Sonia (last edited Mar 20, 2012 07:23PM) (new)

Sonia Correction. Slightly frustrating and makes you feel like you want to go on. But probably the most similar person to Jason in my opinion.


message 194: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade I don't find Reyna annoying. First of all, one of the reasons why more people like Piper is because we saw her side of the story while we only saw a glimpse of Reyna's.


Percyjacksonrox!!! Sonia wrote: "Correction. Slightly frustrating and makes you feel like you want to go on. But probably the most similar person to Jason in my opinion."

ya, ur rite, i dont like them both so we can just put them together:)


Percyjacksonrox!!! Mercedes wrote: "I don't find Reyna annoying. First of all, one of the reasons why more people like Piper is because we saw her side of the story while we only saw a glimpse of Reyna's."

true...she never really did anything annoying, it's just that she seems too..secretive, and cold


message 197: by Sonia (last edited Mar 21, 2012 07:56PM) (new)

Sonia Not really cold, more ....SHARP and attentive, I guess. Sharp like sorta quick to answer???...Oh, also, PJrox, what do you mean, put them together? Does this have anything to do with contemplating which one Jason should choose?(*Confused*)


message 198: by Jazz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jazz Kate wrote: "Ash wrote: "Piper is better suited and reyneas too serious for Jason and they both have already admitted to being attracted to each Other besides reyna Is not part of the seven but piper Is and rey..."

Agreed fullheartedly.


Marshall Reyna


message 200: by Rhea (new)

Rhea Nightshade I have read some posts (not only here but in other forums as well) saying that Reyna won't be with Jason just because she's not a member of the prophecy of seven. I mean, that's just plain biased. Not being part of something doesn't mean you can't have a relationship with someone who is.


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