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Isamlq wrote: "Melanie wrote: "I'm hopefully going to get around to buying the reapers soon! been on my list for so long, now that there are two out I think Ill start :)"
@melanie, I always say this: you should ..."
I have never tried an audio before...maybe this will be my first
@melanie, I always say this: you should ..."
I have never tried an audio before...maybe this will be my first


They sound interesting. I think I will give this a try as well. Thanks for recomending.






Sometimes it gets a little tricky with more authors releasing prequels and in between stories for their series.




My first request is for fantasy or sci-fi books in which a nonhuman female plays a significant and sympathetic role. Models for what I'm looking for would be Kazul in The Enchanted Forest Chronicles and Elda in

What are some like this?

My first request is for fantasy or sci-fi books in which a nonhuman female plays a significant and sympathetic role. Mode..."
Kelley, I don't have any recommendations for you but I wish I did because it sounds like something I'd like to read too. I know I've read some in the past but can not think of them now.

My first request is for fantasy or sci-fi books in which a nonhuman female plays a significant and sympathetic role. Mode..."
Maybe you could try


My first request is for fantasy or sci-fi books in which a nonhuman female plays a significant and sympathetic role. Mode..."
Hi Kelley,
I read Enchanted Forest Chronicles many years ago and loved them, but I do not remember who Kazul is, I have been meaning to reread them.
One series I can think of and enjoyed that does include the female as non(or at least not completely) human include

I had also thought of The Last Unicorn but I noticed you've already read that. If you read graphic novels I've been enjoying

I did see you had



on your to-read list already and I also really liked all of them

Kazul is the female dragon who becomes king in the first book. She's pushed into the background for the second book, but I understand (I haven't read it yet) she comes back in the third book in a big way. These books are one of only two series I can think of which feature a bond between a human girl and a female dragon (Tamora Pierce's The Immortals being the other one). Most of the time, it seems, plucky human girls bond with male dragons, as in Dragon Slippers and Voices of Dragons. This doesn't even take into account all the paranormal romances which feature bare-chested male dragon shifters on their covers. I'd much rather see, for a change, the girl as the enigmatic shifter, and the guy as the tough-talking, hard-bitten human.





I loved that book. It's only semi-creepy. The vibe is dark but it's not super scary or anything like that.



Can anyone recommend me some good recent YA fantasy with a central female character (even if she isn't the protagonist) in which the emphasis of the story is on adventure, not romance? Something in the Tamora Pierce or Robin McKinley mold? Romance is all right (Pierce and McKinley certainly included); I like it if it's well done. But I don't want it to be the female lead's sole focus and purpose.
Preferred: fantasy-classic or historical settings. Even though I loved the Harry Potter series, I don't have much of a taste for stories that spend a lot of time in a modern high school.
Not preferred: dystopia. Again, even though I enjoyed The Hunger Games series, right now it seems nine out of ten YA books with female protagonists are dystopias, and I'm not especially interested in them.

Can anyone recommend me some good recent YA fantasy with a central female character (even if she isn't the protagonist) in which the emphasis of the story is on adventure, not..."
This was actually difficult for me because everything I wanted to recommend to you is already on your shelves. Specifically:






I do also recommend the rest of Tamora Pierce's books since it looks like you haven't read all of them. She's actually on goodreads so you can probably find more ideas at her profile.
The only YA-female protag-historical/fantasy I could come up with is:

You may also enjoy (but it's not exactly YA and has a male and a female protag):

I can only think of a couple as well
has two female leads..its a series first two are out the 3rd is well coming late.
or maybe
does have some romance though
I know you have some of these in your TBR but just thought if you wanted a push for some of them :)


or maybe

I know you have some of these in your TBR but just thought if you wanted a push for some of them :)

I like any kind of paranormal type thing with a bit of romance..any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
Sam :)

My question, then: is the heroine of The Infernal Devices any better -- smarter, tougher, less the distressed damsel? I would be drawn to this series over the other because this one has that Victorian steampunk setting, which I prefer to contemporary.

I wouldn't really say that Clary is like Bella, though she can be annoying from time to time for different reasons. She's way more tolerable than Bella, imo.
To your question though - Tessa is way cooler than Clary. I think she generally makes better decisions than Clary. I like Tessa better and find her much more enjoyable to read. Also she's sort of a kind of monster, though they haven't really established for certain exactly what yet, so you may like that. I think Clare's writing is better when she's writing the historical setting. The steampunk elements aren't huge, but there are a few here and there.

I'm reading Divergent now, and I love it. I'm slightly more than halfway through. I got hooked into it pretty quick. It's fast paced. I would completely recommend it to anyone that likes YA Dystopia

I'm reading Divergent now, and I love it. I'm slightly more than halfway through. I got hooked into it pretty quick. It's fast pa..."
It is my favorite book so far this year. Actually it might be my second favorite since I loved Insurgent even more. So much I read both of them twice already. Currently in a love triange with Four and Tobias. Hats off to Veronica Roth she has a great series going.

The characters are all relatable, and I love the interesting thing about the 'evil' characters - most of them aren't deliberately trying to sabotage other people - they're trying to do what they think will better society so they're kind of like... misguidedly-evil?
Loved that during Insurgent, we got a better look at how other factions operate aside from the ones Tris has grown up in/chose for herself. Amd I'm eagerly anticipating which direction things will go in for the next book, considering the way things ended in #2.
Plus, Four and I are on the same page re: chocolate cake.
Definitely you should read it.

This is random, but someone HAS TO read

Someone. HAS. TO. READ. IT!
(I've just written the longest rambly review ever but posted only a fraction of what I wanted to say.)
If it helps any it reads like John Green.

This is random, but someone HAS TO read

Someone. HAS. TO. READ. IT!
(I've just written the longest rambly review ever but pos..."
I have it! I don't know when I'll be able to get to it, but I'm really excited about that one so hopefully soonish but probably closer to release.
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Jenny wrote: "I still haven't read Divergent and I feel like an asshole for it."
You really should, so you can add Four! to your Hector! and Roar! chants.
Although, I'd love to know what you think of

Stacia (does not squee) wrote: "What is going on with that cover?
Jenny wrote: "I still haven't read Divergent and I feel like an asshole for it."
You really should, so you can add Four! to your Hector! and Roar! chants.
Alth..."
I always look at that one, but because I'm a superficial bitch, the cover kinda puts me off
Jenny wrote: "I still haven't read Divergent and I feel like an asshole for it."
You really should, so you can add Four! to your Hector! and Roar! chants.
Alth..."
I always look at that one, but because I'm a superficial bitch, the cover kinda puts me off



I loved the sci-fi bits and all of the suspense. If you've read/liked Ultraviolet, you'll probably like Unraveling, too.

I'm almost finished with the first book. one of my favorite things about is much like what you said. Even the "evil" people aren't specifically evil. They are so Human. I think most horrible things start out with good intentions. People trying to make the world a better place, but they just assume their idea of a better place is the right one, thus feel justified enforcing their beliefs on others because that's what's best for them. So they think. Anyway I like it because it is believable in that way. And I can connect with the main character.

Jenny wrote: "I still haven't read Divergent and I feel like an asshole for it."
You really should, so you can add Four! to your ..."
Stacia - I'm glad you said that. I received Unraveling for Christmas and put off reading it. Your comment makes me want to check it out sooner!!
By the way, I love your name "(does not squee)". That's hilarious. Squeeing was new to me once I joined GR. It seems everyone says that! Haha


I'm reading Divergent now, and I love it. I'm slightly more than halfway through. I got hooked into it pretty quick..."
Hi Robin, I also LOVED Divergent! Have you read Angelfall? That and The Daughter of Smoke & Bone are of the same quality.
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@melanie, I always say this: you should get try Reapers on audio.
@daniel, you really should :)