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message 51: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (last edited Nov 20, 2011 10:41PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments I always thought dark fantasy was urban fantasy with a grittier tone, but maybe people the people I've seen talking about DF are making their own classification.

If this is the case, wouldn't Anna Dressed in Blood (Anna, #1) by Kendare Blake qualify? The book had a bit of a creep/horror factor to it, and was a bit different than the standard YA UF.

Or are you looking for traditional/high fantasy with a darker feel?


message 52: by [deleted user] (new)

just dark in general thanks for the link,
but I spose I mean dark and creepy themes rather then straight out horror
anna dressed in blood is pretty much the type of book :D
thanks


message 53: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments Anna would probably work then. It's sort of a pnr and horror mashup if that makes sense. The book isn't completely scary or gory, but there's definitely a darker vibe to it. The romance is very minimal, and sort of in the background, so it's less of a romance and more of a ghost/murder story.

Jenny had a decent list of Halloween reads in this topic :

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/6...


message 54: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (narcisse) | 1946 comments Ok, I glanced at your read list and tried to avoid books already on there but I may have forgotten and included some. I'm flawed. :(

Darker Still (Magic Most Foul, #1) by Leanna Renee Hieber is one that I read recently that is a sort of historical dark fantasy. It has a couple of minor flaws but is a pretty good read and would fit.

Some others that might fit what you're looking for:
Slice of Cherry by Dia Reeves The Replacement by Brenna Yovanoff The Space Between by Brenna Yovanoff

The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern is amazing and has a pretty creepy vibe to it and an awesome atmosphere.

The Unbecoming of Mara Dyer (Mara Dyer, #1) by Michelle Hodkin I haven't read this but I saw several people recommend it as a Halloween read. From what I gather it's sort of contemporary, sort of paranormal, and pretty creepy.

Sabriel (Abhorsen, #1) by Garth Nix Not sure I'd call it DARK, but it's an amazing fantasy about a necromancer girl who is charged with keeping the dead out of the world of the living. Good series, with some creepiness and decrepit things.

Masque of the Red Death by Bethany Griffin doesn't come out until next year, but LOOK AT IT. How could I not include it? I don't even know if it'll be dark fantasy-ish, but it's based on a Poe story so how could it not have some of that in it? HOW COULD IT NOT?! I want it.

And yeah, a lot of the books listed in that Halloween reads thread would definitely fit the creepy requirement.


message 55: by [deleted user] (new)

that last books cover is awesome! I have sabreil here but have not read it yet thanks a bunch for the recs they look really good!


message 56: by Carina (new)

Carina That Masque of the Red Death looks REALLY good Jenny!!




Ok so I just came across these books and was wondering if anyone around here has read them:
Reckless Magic (Star-Crossed #1) by Rachel Higginson Hopeless Magic (Star-Crossed #2) by Rachel Higginson and Fearless Magic (Star-Crossed #3) by Rachel Higginson .
They caught my attention and they all have really high ratings so I'm very interested.


message 57: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 76 comments Carina wrote: "That Masque of the Red Death looks REALLY good Jenny!!




Ok so I just came across these books and was wondering if anyone around here has read them:
Reckless Magic (Star-Crossed #1) by Rachel Higginson [bookcover..."


They sound good. Sounds kind of like the Peachville High Demons series, [bookcover:Beautiful Demons|9609429] is the first (I liked this series a lot).

I would be interested in what you think if you read those Star-Crossed books.


message 58: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 76 comments Beautiful Demons (Peachville High Demons, #1) by Sarra Cannon I don't know if it was just my browser, but the cover didn't show up.


message 59: by Carina (new)

Carina I see it! I really like girls with white hair, for some reason =)
Actually, I came across a book at Walmart called Fearless(white cover with a close up of a girls face with white hair) and it looked REALLY good but I can't find it anywhere around here. *grunt* It had a Walmart Exclusive on the cover, maybe that's why I can't find it?


message 60: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 76 comments Did you get the authors name? Or do you have the Goodreads app for your phone? Because you can scan the barcode and it will come up with the goodreads title if there is one.

I think Beautiful Demons is a lend me book if you have a nook. Otherwise the ebooks are really cheap (like 0.99-2.99 with the newer ones more expensive).


message 61: by Carina (new)

Carina Beautiful Demons sounds good Carrie, have you read it?
I'll have to check how much they are for the Kindle.
I didn't notice the author cause I thought it would be easy to find in GR, and I don't have a smart phone so no app either. *sigh* Its really bugging me now, so I'll just HAVE to stop by Walmart and get all the info...I just hope I'm strong enough to not buy it. With the holidays here, my wallet can't take anymore unnecesary hits! lol


message 62: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 76 comments Yes, I have read the first 3 Peachville High Demons, and have the 4th but have been waiting to read it until the next book gets closer to release.

You have the strength! Just get the info and maybe you can see if it is cheaper somewhere else, or maybe somebody has one you can borrow. :)


message 63: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (last edited Nov 21, 2011 01:35PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments Carina wrote: "That Masque of the Red Death looks REALLY good Jenny!!

Ok so I just came across these books and was wondering if anyone around here has read them:
Reckless Magic (Star-Crossed #1) by Rachel Higginson [bookcover..."


They look to be ebook only, so I'm guessing they're indie/self-pub, which might be why you haven't heard too much about them.

Some indie books are great and get a lot of buzz, while others tend to go unnoticed, even if they don't suck.

I went to the page to check and surprisingly, there are quite a few ratings. Sometimes an indie book will rate high when only 10 or so people review it and then you know there's quite possibly a good chance that most of the reviews came from friends of the author. This doesn't look to be the case for the series you mentioned, so they might be pretty good. :) I did see a couple of editing complaints, but even with that, the people still gave decent reviews. 99 cents for Kindle and Nook isn't a scary price either.


message 64: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) Melanie wrote: "Ok so I'm wondering does any one know any good dark fantasy type books? Ya or not?

Thanks :)"


This is dark fantasy and written by a woman, so it is different than male written or POV fantasy. I have only read the first two, but I own the third:

Daughter of the Blood (The Black Jewels, #1) by Anne Bishop Heir to the Shadows (The Black Jewels, #2) by Anne Bishop Queen of the Darkness (The Black Jewels, #3) by Anne Bishop


message 65: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 178 comments Oh, Regina, you bring up an interesting series. I accidentally stumbled on this one in high school...definitely a lot darker than what I was reading at the time, lol. It's really unique and the author does a great job at world building. I've only read the three, but I know she's branched out since then.


message 66: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) Samantha you are right. I think #3 ends the trilogy and there is closure, but she continues to write in the world and with the characters after #3. It is dark! I need to move on to #3.


message 67: by Carina (new)

Carina Stacia wrote: "I went to the page to check and surprisingly, there are quite a few ratings. Sometimes an indie book will rate high when only 10 or so people review it and then you know there's quite possibly a good chance that most of the reviews came from friends of the author. This doesn't look to be the case for the series you mentioned, so they might be pretty good. :) "


I noticed that too and it surprised me(and intrigued me) to see such a high rating.



Carrie(Care) wrote: "You have the strength!"


I...Must...Try...to resist....breaking...my piggy...bank!!!...lol


message 68: by thesebooksiread (new)

thesebooksiread I am sure some or a lot have read the Dark Swan series but Richelle Mead but I was wondering WHAT people love or liked or didnt like about the series. Basically, it has been on a list of to reads for a while but everytime I read it I am not that interested in trying it. I guess the idea of a "shaman" is not really catching me at this point. Or at least the idea of it. I about to start the Georgia Kincaid series and I felt a little unsure about it too but everyone loves it so I am giving it a go. BUT I am struggling more with Dark Swan.. so anything that can help push me towards trying them or not is appreciated... without spoilers obviously. I don't mind knowing how you feel about characters or anything like that I just don't want major plot points spoiled. Anyways.. thanks!


message 69: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (last edited Dec 31, 2011 05:33PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments I would read Georgina Kincaid first anyway, to see if you like her adult books, since they are much more graphic than her YA series.

I personally liked the concept of the succubus better, and was completely jealous of Georgie's ability to look like whomever she wanted (and the fact that she could change clothes instantly), but the fae/shaman world in Dark Swan was more intriguing.

GK is an easier read, I think. Dark Swan has an interesting story arc, but there are a lot of frustrating moments, so that's why I think it's a better idea to try her other series first. Overall, if you enjoy Mead's writing style, humor, and variety of characters, then I'd say you'd probably find something to like about any of her series.


message 70: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) Definitely read Georgina first.


message 71: by Hillary (new)

Hillary (eledri) | 759 comments I have to agree, read Georgina first. It gives you the best feel of how she writes her adult series. It doesn't hurt that the opener to the first is rather funny. Dark Swan really is a decent series. Eugenie is interesting as a character. She's smart, funny, and seriously bad ass. Dorian is absolutely wonderful in my book, and amusing to no end.


message 72: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 76 comments I really disliked the character Georgina. I thought she was a flighty moron always trying to make it look like she was self sacrificing when IMO she was a selfish slut who made her own bed. I have no interest in reading the rest of the series since she is in it (obviously).

I thought Dark swan was ok, but I didn't love it. I may read the next books someday, but I have no urge to right now.

Sorry, I know my opinions are in the minority, but it is how I feel.


message 73: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments It's okay Carrie. Not everyone is going to think the same. I think at one point you and I had even discussed the series in another group when Darcy and I were talking about the possible endings for the last book, and I sort of remember why you said you weren't a fan. I know that you did like her VA series though.

Mead tends to be a writer who people have a lot to say about. Even some of her diehard fans have moments where they want to pelt her with one of her own books.

All I can say is the woman never bores me, haha.


message 74: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) LMAO, that would be me right now.


message 75: by [deleted user] (new)

I just started storm born so this is great haha :)


message 76: by N.B. (new)

N.B. Dixon Can anyone recommend a young adult fantasy with a romantic element that isn't a love triangle. I'm getting so sick of those. It seems to be the fall back when an author can't come up with a better plot. I'd be grateful if you could check to make sure your recommendations are on audio as I won't be able to read them otherwise. Thanks.


message 77: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) LOL, sure!

Finnikin of the Rock (Lumatere Chronicles, #1) by Melina Marchetta , unless you've already read it.

It's sequel will be released internationally soon, Froi of the Exiles (Lumatere Chronicles, #2) by Melina Marchetta


message 78: by Carina (new)

Carina Hi Nadia! I have 2 recommendations that are on my favorite shelves:

Graceling (The Seven Kingdoms, #1) by Kristin Cashore by Kristin Cashore, and Poison Study (Study, #1) by Maria V. Snyder by Maria V. Snyder.
Both are amazing books and no love triangle in them.


message 79: by Mimi (last edited Jan 23, 2012 07:26AM) (new)

Mimi Smith | 44 comments Well, Daughter of Smoke and Bone (Daughter of Smoke and Bone, #1) by Laini Taylor , doesn't have one, not really(at least not yet, lol) and I liked it a lot.

What does it say about the YA books I read that I can't think of any more(not mentioned already)?


message 80: by Mimi (new)

Mimi Smith | 44 comments Come to think of it, I'd like to read a good UF series with no major love triangle, or at least one that isn't prominent. Like
Magic Bites (Kate Daniels, #1) by Ilona Andrews
River Marked (Mercy Thompson, #6) by Patricia Briggs
Darkfever (Fever, #1) by Karen Marie Moning (I know there's a somewhat triangle there, but not one I took seriously)
and even Halfway to the Grave (Night Huntress, #1) by Jeaniene Frost which has gone downhill for me after book 3.

Heck, I'd even settle for a good UF, where the men aren't jerked around.

I wonder why authors always write MFM triangles and not two women and a guy(if you really have to write a triangle), at least that would be different and there'd be no Team 1 and Team 2 and you'd know who to root for. Plus, I'd totally identify more with a heroine that fights for her man, than with one who can't make up her mind, has two men chasing her and sleeps with both of them. A fantasy authors have of 2 men fighting for her, perhaps?

*Sigh* RANT OVER


message 81: by Carina (new)

Carina Haha, I am sooo with you Mimi! Love triangles don't appeal to me much, but a 1 guy 2 woman, would be new and interesting.
Unfortunately, I think you mentioned all my recs, so I'll be waiting to see what people recommend for you =)


message 82: by Mimi (new)

Mimi Smith | 44 comments Carina wrote: "Haha, I am sooo with you Mimi! Love triangles don't appeal to me much, but a 1 guy 2 woman, would be new and interesting.
Unfortunately, I think you mentioned all my recs, so I'll be waiting to see..."


Yes, it gets tired fast, doesn't it? I'll see what comes up here, too:).

I wasn't that against love triangles at first. When written well it can be gut-wrenching and real and you can deal with it. Or it can be so obvious nit doesn't bug me that much.

But then, all of a sudden, EVERY UF and YA book I read had love triangles, left, right and all over the place! And most of them written in such a way I want to strangle the heroine. How can one girl save the world repeatedly and yet change her mind about men twice in a minute. I don't know, it's too much.


message 83: by Carina (new)

Carina Ok I just went through my books and I found a few that are definetly worth reading(even with the love triangle):
The Shifters series, Stray (Shifters, #1) by Rachel Vincent Rogue (Shifters, #2) by Rachel Vincent Pride (Shifters, #3) by Rachel Vincent Prey (Shifters, #4) by Rachel Vincent Shift (Shifters, #5) by Rachel Vincent and Alpha (Shifters, #6) by Rachel Vincent <---- Amazing UF series with werecats. An intense love triangle does develop in the series, but it was well worth te angst and heartwrench.

Also the Charley Davidson series: First Grave on the Right (Charley Davidson, #1) by Darynda Jones Second Grave on the Left (Charley Davidson, #2) by Darynda Jones Third Grave Dead Ahead (Charley Davidson, #3) by Darynda Jones (<-- this one is just around the corner!) Fourth Grave Beneath My Feet (Charley Davidson, #4) by Darynda Jones (not released until next year) This soon became one of my favorite UF series. I amanxious for book 3, and the plus? No love triangle!


message 84: by Carina (new)

Carina Shoot! I almost for got the Georgina Kincaid series! A MUST READ:
Succubus Blues (Georgina Kincaid, #1) by Richelle Mead Succubus on Top (Georgina Kincaid, #2) by Richelle Mead Succubus Dreams (Georgina Kincaid #3) by Richelle Mead Succubus Heat (Georgina Kincaid #4) by Richelle Mead Succubus Shadows (Georgina Kincaid, #5) by Richelle Mead Succubus Revealed (Georgina Kincaid, #6) by Richelle Mead


You know, I assumed you wanted Adult recs, do you want YA recs?


message 85: by N.B. (new)

N.B. Dixon I think I saw that one on Audible the other week. It didn't appeal when I first read the synopsis but I'll go back and take another look. Thank you.


message 86: by Carina (new)

Carina Which one Nadia?


message 87: by Mimi (new)

Mimi Smith | 44 comments Carina wrote: "Shoot! I almost for got the Georgina Kincaid series! A MUST READ:
Succubus Blues (Georgina Kincaid, #1) by Richelle Mead Succubus on Top (Georgina Kincaid, #2) by Richelle Mead Succubus Dreams (Georgina Kincaid #3) by Richelle Mead [bookcover:Succubus Heat|..."


I meant Adult ones:). Thanks for the rec!


message 88: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (last edited Jan 24, 2012 12:45PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments Mimi wrote: "Well, Daughter of Smoke and Bone (Daughter of Smoke and Bone, #1) by Laini Taylor, doesn't have one, not really(at least not yet, lol) and I liked it a lot.

What does it say about the YA books I read that I can't think of any..."


I think this would be a good one for what Nadia's looking for in YA. The style often reads more like a traditional fantasy but the book itself is a strong urban fantasy, and there is no love triangle.

Also, I've heard the audio is fabulous for it, although I read it in print.


message 89: by N.B. (new)

N.B. Dixon Yes, I would prefer YA. Thank you.


message 90: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) I agree with the Graceling recommendation....haven't read the Maria Snyder books...yet.


message 91: by Jill (new)

Jill (prospecter) | 6 comments I'm looking for a good sci-fi recommendation. I don't usually read this genre but am trying to complete the seasonal challenge. My favorite YA sci fi books are Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow.


message 92: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) The best sci-fi I read recently is Ready Player One


message 93: by N.B. (new)

N.B. Dixon You could try Variant by Robison Wells or Glow by Amy Kathleen Ryan. They're each the first in a series.


message 94: by Hillary (new)

Hillary (eledri) | 759 comments Are you wanting straight Sci-Fi or something sub-genre like steampunk/dystopian/post apoc/ whatever else fits under the Sci-Fi blanket?


message 95: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (last edited Jan 31, 2012 04:13PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments Jill, I'm sort of going to echo Hillary here. Sci-Fi can cover everything from space, to technology, to historical/steampunk, dystopia, to post-apocalyptic, etc. It might help to know what you're looking for. There are a lot of great sci-fi books, but the tone can vary from book to book. Some are grittier and darker, while others are filled with prose and romance. Knowing what interests you would help to narrow it down.

Janet recommended Ready Player One, and that's a fun book for anyone who's a fan of the 80's pop-culture or of video gaming/online gaming. Even if you're not, you might like the book if you think the idea of going on a virtual reality adventure inside of a computer sounds like fun.

There's also other sci-fi themed books featuring subjects like superheroes or powers, etc. such as Hush Money. I know there's a lot more with this theme, but I haven't read many. Maybe someone else would have some ideas.

Are you interested in more of a space theme, since you mentioned Ender's Game? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Across the Universe & Academy 7 but they're not quite the same feel as Ender's. I probably liked Across better than Academy though.


message 96: by Jenny (last edited Jan 31, 2012 05:09PM) (new)

Jenny (narcisse) | 1946 comments Specifics would definitely help.
But here are some random things to look into:

Cinder (Lunar Chronicles, #1) by Marissa Meyer A Long, Long Sleep by Anna Sheehan The Adoration of Jenna Fox (Jenna Fox Chronicles, #1) by Mary E. Pearson The Maze Runner (Maze Runner, #1) by James Dashner Wither (The Chemical Garden, #1) by Lauren DeStefano The Forest of Hands and Teeth (The Forest of Hands and Teeth, #1) by Carrie Ryan Unwind (Unwind, #1) by Neal Shusterman Birthmarked (Birthmarked #1) by Caragh M. O'Brien Inside Out (Insider, #1) by Maria V. Snyder Cold Magic (The Spiritwalker Trilogy #1) by Kate Elliott Leviathan (Leviathan, #1) by Scott Westerfeld The Knife of Never Letting Go (Chaos Walking, #1) by Patrick Ness Legend (Legend, #1) by Marie Lu Airborn (Matt Cruse, #1) by Kenneth Oppel Feed by M.T. Anderson


message 97: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments I'm looking for a book that has some sort of an Aladdin or 40 Thieves feel. Maybe something with a magic carpet or genies.

The only book I can think of is this one, which sucked me in by the cover (probably one of my favorite covers ever), but the reviews don't look as promising.

The Secret of Ka by Christopher Pike


message 98: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (narcisse) | 1946 comments This one comes to mind right away:
Castle in the Air (Castle, #2) by Diana Wynne Jones
It's a sequel to Howl's Moving Castle, but reading the first one isn't really necessary since the main character is totally different.

I wish I could think of more.


message 99: by Stacia (the 2010 club), groupaholic, YA-MA founder (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 5137 comments It's okay. I guess this means authors haven't tapped into this potential theme yet. Someone needs to jump on this idea because it's not overdone like so many other things are right now!

I got about halfway into Howl's and didn't finish it. This wasn't because I didn't like the book but for whatever reason, I wasn't in the mood for the story at the time. I'm not ruling out finishing the book at some point though. It's so hard for me to pick up the second book in a series without reading the first.


message 100: by Isamlq (new)

Isamlq | 612 comments I have to get it out there but lovers of On the Jellicoe Road by Melina Marchetta please try Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein .


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