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Should women be allowed to preach in front of a congregation/be ordained?
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Lauren
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Mar 20, 2009 06:13PM
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That seems very unfair, to give someone the desire to serve you, then be like "no you can't, you're a GIRLlol"
Or to make someone a certain way and then deny them their rights because of the way you made them.
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It's differentish. Some people do think that being gay is choice, others don't. I personally believe it's the way you're raised. Whom you are surrounded with and such...
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And if that is true, what is everyone else doing all over the world that make people straight?
Yeah, but they aren't around their families all the time. And even if they are the tend to rebel. And people should make people straight.
SO I have an idea. Maybe the suffering and pain was here before we started believing in God. Maybe then we started praying to him. Then he continued the pain and suffering NOT TO BE cruel, malicious, or vindictive, but to better teach us on earth. If all of our problems were solved immediately by God, we would not live meaningful lives. We would be in some twisted utopia of a world. Throughout time haven't we always tried to create "cities upon hills" and seamless communities utopias? Our ultimate goal has been solutions to everything and perfection. But how do we become better human beings? We make mistakes and learn and try not to do the same bad thing again. And even if we tried a utopian world, there would always have to be conflict. We are all too different. But aren't wars, in a way, part of the natural span of things? That is how we divide and without diversity we would be nowhere. Wars and conflict are sad and horrible but they teach us about liberty, the price of it, differences, blood-shed, worth, independence, and the wrongs of brutality. War is awful, don't get me wrong, but it serves a purpose.
In the bible, God says all sorts of things. That is what he wants us to live by and eventually realize is right. But he still must teach us right and wrong so our lives will have meant something. He still must teach us acceptance and love and trust and hope and evil and sadness and war and hatred for us to have lived fully.
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What do you mean by that statement?
Oops, I meant shouldn't. I need to start proofreading...
i thought that god created us...i mean according to the god believers on here.
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Yes. And why would God create someone gay, if that only makes them sinful?
BTW, for people who say they choose to be gay, why the hell would anyone choose to be something that gets them discriminated against, possibly killed (Matt Shepherd), and in general abused? Why?
yeah?? people don't choose who they love. it just happens.
I don't believe that they choose to be gay but I believe that they aren't born gay.
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well of course not because your hormones aren't developed yet when your born!! most people discover there sexuality when they are going through puberty.
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Well, it's confusing. Just that they find someone they love, and they can't help it. But if they never found that person of the same gender they would have had no idea they were gay. It's an odd thing...
no, they do. you don't love certain guys in your class, but your attracted to them, right? same with gays.
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I don't know... I'm not gay so I can't say. It's super confusing. I think I would be bi if I found the right girl though...
lets put it this way: gays are not much different from straits. they just love the same sex. but their love works the same way.
Mhm, so no reason for them to be discriminated against.
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Exactly. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/st...
Some people don't get this ad. Because they think the love is different.
I think that we have the ability to love either sex when we're born...but something in our lives determine it.And for you people who think who you love is a choice:
WHY THE HECK WOULD SOMEONE CHOOSE TO BE GAY?
he may not of helped anyone,but he was agravatted that everyone was getting along.
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And sara said you were grounded for a month.
Well, the reason they would choose to be gay is if they liked someone of the same sex. I hate to be immature but, durrrr.
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No, I believe people become gay, but it's nota choice. It's strange... I've said before, I can't explain it. They see someone they like, and they happen to be the same gender. I know, I'm acting stupid. Sorry.
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"No, I believe people become gay, but it's nota choice. It's strange... I've said before, I can't explain it. They see someone they like, and they happen to be the same gender. I know, I'm acting stupid. Sorry."
No, you're not being stupid. Your taking time to try to explain what you think. More then a lot of people here can say.
Like, they go through life, lalalalala, don't like anyone really, then it hits them, sort of?
Lauren wrote: "I just said that. "Yeah. Emphasizing a bit. ><
no, I completely understand. :D I'm just a copyrighter.
Lauren wrote: "I think it's a good debate nevertheless. "No, I believe people become gay, but it's nota choice. It's strange... I've said before, I can't explain it. They see someone they like, and they happen ..."
Yeah, ish.
Lauren said:"Who was?
And sara said you were grounded for a month."
oh,i am.i have been sneaking on here.hahaha. and your question: "Who was?"
the answer is God.
And sara said you were grounded for a month."
oh,i am.i have been sneaking on here.hahaha. and your question: "Who was?"
the answer is God.
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??That was what I was talking about. God does not make sense there.
well,i dont really get it either.i havent read through my bible lately.sorry.
dudes this debate is about if we,om should preach... so if u are athiest you should probibly leave
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exactly Samantha,but if they want to debate about something that isnt in their religion then let them. it is their choice.
samantha, you would have no debate if the atheists left. and anyway, its ourchoice to stay. and what the hell does "om" mean?????
and in the god and gay and lesbians debate there are atheists. you can't say that.
