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Should women be allowed to preach in front of a congregation/be ordained?
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Liz
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Mar 12, 2009 03:17PM
How am i a hypocrite?
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EXCUSE ME?...geez i was just kidding.GOSH!...me and her are friends now..well not what i would call friends but we are peeps.GOSH. she knows i mess around with people.GOSH.
:P I know. Just trying to be funny. Apparently it didn't work.
no,not really. you should really tell me when your kidding and when your being serious,kay?
lol. i am not saying i don't gossip lol.....
okay, listen up, idon't get it. What would wemen preach, a Bible that clearly states in corinthians 14:34 "wemon Should remian silent in Churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submision", Check it out for your self.
okay,i will look in my bible...and yeah,iis ok,Emma i gossip to i was just being funny.
Kay JL, it was just a misunderstanding. But Samantha, the Bible was written by men. God could've narrated part of it, but we're talking about men with a very limited point of view. And the bible is misogynist in more than one way. The only story where a woman made a difference is when someone important marries them. Or Mary, or Esther. And that's all. The rest is about men. I personally think it was to take power from Pagan religions, which thought women was da bomb!
the Bible was manualy written by men but God told them the exactly what to say.
i still think that times change and if we could talk to god and write a modern bible things would be different. you know, this isn't fun... nobody disagrees with me.
Mariah wrote: "i still think that times change and if we could talk to god and write a modern bible things would be different. you know, this isn't fun... nobody disagrees with me."
Sorry. But I agree. :D
samantha, that means that god is sexist and takes all women for granted. women are the reason we are here! without women, there would be no anything! of course, we need both genders to keep the species going but the endurance and strength of women are a huge part of the birthing process, and if god doesn't realize that, i don't want to be in any part of his crap religion.
although i do believe in god, i just don't go to church.
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If you are Christian, God made it that way as punishment. Which is stupid.
okay,so this is very random,what is a "misogynist"?
oh,well God isnt that. He loves all of his people and even the people who do not worship him.
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if he loves all people, then why does he let innocent people suffer? is he is all powerful, why doesn't he fix that?
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ok, with the whole answering everything i ask, they arent actually questions! they are just thinking and debating and not actually meant to be answered!
...???? ok,so God doesnt want people tp get along...he wants there to be conflict on the world. that is why he flooded the world so he sould start the world over and so the Earth wouldnt be perfect. he made it where different people speak diiferent languages. and want different things.
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Surely, if he is all-powerful, he could achieve diversity through other, less violent and barbaric means.
yes,but for some reason he chooses not to.
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Well Lauren, why do you think all those African children are starving? So he can have his water? And why have his water? To commit mass genocide.
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Kinda hypocritical. "No one is allowed to kill. Well, except me."
Maria/Masha loves ♪♫ ♪♪♫ ♫ ♪♫ ♪ wrote: "Well Lauren, why do you think all those African children are starving? So he can have his water? And why have his water? To commit mass genocide."It may be taking those children to end their misery. I admit, there may be simpler ways to do it, but perhaps the higher being really does have a plan. Atheists are just as bad as theists, thinking of a higher being being limited to human thoughts and conceptions. Maybe murder doesn't seem bad to him. After all, children are born every 8 seconds(in the US alone), we have an overpopulated earth, then a child dying every 4 seconds isn't really that bad. Wait another 4 seconds and there will be another alive. It's working in complex ways.
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We think of NO higher being.
But the higher being you are describing as the Christian God is limited to human small-mindedness. Can't a god be inhuman? Immortal even? It's impossible for us to imagine a God that isn't limited the same way as humans in thought and ability.
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As for inhuman, the universe seems pretty good at managing by itself. I just see no reason to add a god in the mix.
Haha! in the bible it says "Thou shalt not kill" and yet the bible is filled with violence slaughter and war....
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Lauren wrote: "God kills more people then Satan in the Bible."True.
god made more water with rain & it is in the oceans right now.
god didnt help anyone one bit. if god wanted humans to stay alive, maybe he would have though out the earth layout a little better. Because even though 73% of the earths surface is water, of the 70% , 97.5% of it is salt water, which only leaves 2.5% for the entire world to consume. If god was so loving toward his creations, why do one in six people do not have access to drinkable water?
Of that 2.5%, 69% is in glaciers and ice caps, which are slowly melting away. 4% is above ground, in lakes and streams, and 31% is in aquifers deep underground.
If god loved us and wanted us to thrive as a people, why is it predicted that in 20 years more than half the world will have no access to clean water?
Does god not love the infants that die from diarreah in Ethiopia?
Theists always talk about "the plan" "the bigger plan". What the hell kind of effed up plan is this????
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A) a plan by a sadistic god, who likes us in pain
B) the result of an indifferent universe, with no plan
You forgot a choice.C) A plan that kills people that are inferior or lead awful lives, ending their pain and creating room for the rest of the population that's caving in on itself through war and senseless violence that kills a lot more people than natural causes.
Take your pick.
Back to the topic... In the bible it says "Don't judge and you won't be judged." Or something like that. So then why does God judge people based on something that they can't even change. Well, change without heaps of money and science...
