Please edit or correct or delete this quote. (part 2)

[Banjomike]

Not delete. I'll combine it with the official William W. Purkey version.

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10123...

EDIT: Wait, NO! They are different. Research time.

[Banjomike]

This note is from William W. Purkey himself when he was asked about the "work like you don't need the money" version of his more famous quote:

Dear John
Thanks for your note regarding the quote. It is obvious that the theme has worked its way through many minds.
I certainly want to give credit to those who have tinkered with this beautiful concept.
My version follows. I am sure that most of the words are mine.
"You've gotta' dance like there's nobody watching,
Love like you'll never be hurt.
Sing like there's nobody listening,
And live like it's heaven on earth."
(And speak from the heart to be heard.)
Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
William W. Purkey
Wed 6/13/01 8:31 AM

I'm happy with that although it doesn't say who DID say it. The popular ideas are Purkey (not anymore, I think), Satchel Paige, Kurt Vonnegut, and a poem/song "Come From the Heart" by Susanna Clark and Richard Leigh. And the inevitable Mark Twain, of course.

My opinion is that the original Purkey version was tweaked for the song "Come from the Heart" in 1987.

You got to sing like you don't need the money;
Love, like you'll never get hurt;
You got to dance like nobody's watchin'.
It's gotta come from the heart , If you want it to work.

So being a song it should probably be deleted unless a book of lyrics exists.

Discuss.

[zeyno]

I believe you are right. I've seen the same things while I was searching for the quote's owner. It's quite common to use poetry in songs. I think it belongs to William W. Purkey. Since he had taken the time to correct this and sent his version. Susanna Clark and Richard Leigh inspired from it. On internet, every quote eventually belongs to Mark Twain haha. I dont think it's Kurt Vonnegut because I'm reading a lot Vonnegut these days and this is not his style. And I don't know about Richard Leigh. So long story short, I would put my money on William W. Purkey.

[Banjomike]

Larien wrote: "I believe you are right. I've seen the same things while I was searching for the quote's owner. It's quite common to use poetry in songs. I think it belongs to William W. Purkey. Since he had taken the time to correct this and sent his version. Susanna Clark and Richard Leigh inspired from it. On internet, every quote eventually belongs to Mark Twain haha. I dont think it's Kurt Vonnegut because I'm reading a lot Vonnegut these days and this is not his style. And I don't know about Richard Leigh. So long story short, I would put my money on William W. Purkey. "

The main problem with giving it to Mr Purkey is that he says it ISN'T his. The "work like you don't need the money" version is sufficiently different from the Purkey original to qualify for an entry in the GR database. We can forget Twain and probably Vonnegut as well. Richard Leigh is the other half of the songwriting team that wrote "Come from the Heart". I would still go with the song version but I haven't found a book yet.

On a not-exactly-unrelated note, I've reattributed this one from Marilyn Monroe:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/97752

[zeyno]

Well I think it doesn't belong to Goodreads. Maybe the poem version does but not the lyrics of a song. So I think you can delete the Richard Leigh version and add the poem version to the William W. Purkey. That's what I would do. So, it's your call.

[Banjomike]

Larien wrote: "Well I think it doesn't belong to Goodreads. Maybe the poem version does but not the lyrics of a song. So I think you can delete the Richard Leigh version and add the poem version to the William W. Purkey. That's what I would do. So, it's your call. "

Purkey clearly denies it is his but he seems happy with people "who have tinkered with this beautiful concept", which is good enough for me. I've found a printed songbook with the lyrics and added it to GR. As far as I can tell, the poem IS the song. The main writer was Richard Leigh but I can't get his books to appear when editing the quote so I've edited it the co-writer Susanna Clark for the duration. I'll change it when the system accepts his name.

So this is it. For the time being.
You’ve got to sing like you don’t need the money

EDIT: changed to Richard Leigh.

[zeyno]

Well at least we've got a closure. Thanks for your interest. You are hell of a librarian.

[Banjomike]

Larien wrote: "Well at least we've got a closure. Thanks for your interest. You are hell of a librarian."

True.

[Keith]

Banjomike wrote: "On a not-exactly-unrelated note, I've reattributed this one from Marilyn Monroe:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/97752 "

FWIW, since so much of the task of librarians in the quotes database is correcting misattributions, I've gotten in the habit of adding tags to such quotes to (hopefully) ease the process of future research. E.g., I tagged the above as "misattributed to marilyn monroe" so that, when it inevitably reappears under her name, any librarian will be more readily able to see where the merge should go. It also lets readers/fans know about the issue. There is also a "widely misattributed" tag for those words that get put in every mouth but the one from which they issued, and just plain "misattributed" for when we know who didn't say it, but not who really did.

Of course, that presumes that anyone trusts my attributions. Or that any Librarian other than myself even cares.

[vicki_girl]

I think they're great. I haven't had an opportunity to use them yet myself, but I can see where they could be useful in the future.

[Banjomike]

vicki_girl wrote: "I think they're great. I haven't had an opportunity to use them yet myself, but I can see where they could be useful in the future."

Yes, me too. It might also be useful if the PTB could add a notes option that is visible when the edit page is opened for adding references, reasons, links etc.

Just added one to this:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1958-...

[♥ Rebecca ♥]

These two are from Exhale.

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/56911...

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/56912...

[vicki_girl]

Book added to quotes.

[Jillian (Peapod Historical Bookery)]

Hi Librarians,

Just wondering if you could correct a mistake I just made. I added a quote but assigned it to the wrong book, and I didn't realize it until it was already saved and posted.

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/...

This quote is actually from "Sorcery & Cecelia, or the Enchanted Chocolate Pot." http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64...

Sorry and thank you!

[Banjomike]

639 done

[Marie]

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...

These seem suspiciously similar to have been said by three different people; is there a chance two are quoting the other? It's not one I'm familiar with.

[Banjomike]

Marie wrote: "http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...

These seem suspiciously similar to have been said by three different people; is there a chance two are quoting the other? It's not one I'm familiar with. "

First reaction is the the Max Beerbohm version is probably different enough to be left.

The others two... Research time. Tomorrow.

[Marie]

Thanks! For some Fitzgerald:

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...

The second result is almost definitely a misquote, but I'm not sure if the third, which just includes more narration is necessary or to GR standards.

[Banjomike]

Marie wrote: "Thanks! For some Fitzgerald:

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...

The second result is almost definitely a misquote, but I'm not sure if the third, which just includes more narration is necessary or to GR standards. "

1 and 2 edited, correct book, combined.

3 is fine. It was badly edited but it give a better view, in my opinion, of the the shortened quote. Fixed.

[Banjomike]

I notice that all the 'Shannon L. Alder' quotes were moved to 'Shannon Alder' at the beginning of August by an Employee. I think we should find out if she was asked to do that. She might also have a clever little program which will bulk-move them all back.

[Banjomike]

Shannon wrote: "Hi, after long consideration....my editor told me to combine all the quotes from my two existing goodreads accounts.

So can you go to the below link. http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...

Those are all my quotes. I need you to move them to my new goodreads author site so they are listed with my other quotes.
Move them to Shannon L. Alder's goodreads account.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

I hope that is not problematic. I realize I have 104 quotes to move to my new account. I was talked back into combining all my quotes together.... thanks

Realize you are only combining my quotes....your not adding my books together. "


OK. I PM'd the employee and the changes back in August were at the author's request as were the twenty-odd I did at your more recent request here:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/6...

Is this request to move ALL of them back to where they originally came from the final one?

[[deleted user]]

All from Inkheart:

These two need correcting and merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/15438...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/23923...

The actual quote is: ""Because fear kills everything," Mo had once told her. "Your mind, your heart, your imagination.""

Need Merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/30181...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/61455... (exact wording)

Need Merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/41595...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/24217...

Need Merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/13715...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62745... (typo)

Need Merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/47311...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/53297...

Need Merging:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/51865...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14948...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/47146...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43119...

[Vicky]

Got 648!

[[deleted user]]

Thanks! Very prompt ^_-

[[deleted user]]

I haven't read this book but I think this quote is missing a word. I think there should be a "she" after the word "if." I'd love it if the ellipsis at the end had three dots. Unless it's two full stops by accident? And should the character names be in the quote itself, or as a tag?

“I would do anything for Rachel and if wants an Edward, that's what I'll be..

Lewis to Olivia”

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/...

Thanks :)

[Melody]

Got it.

[Banjomike]

#651. I have the book, and there isn't an ellipsis at the end although there probably should be one at the beginning. The full quote is "Listen, I would do anything for Rachel and if she wants an Edward, that’s what I’ll be."

I haven't added the "Listen," but the ellipsis is gone.

[[deleted user]]

Thanks for fixing that up :)

[Abigail]

There are a lot of Jeremy Taylors who are authors and I have been working on disentangling them on Goodreads. Most of the quotes of "Jeremy Taylor" are of a cleric of the Church of England in the 1600s. The following quotes need to be moved to his new (disambigged) profile, here: http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...


http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/64138...

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/18691...

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/59365...

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http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/22785...
I've googled this one to bits (whole thing, pieces of it, altered forms of it) and can't find anything that pins it down to an actual work of (any, but presumably the Anglican cleric) Jeremy Taylor. In fact, searching for the exact quote only gets five results, three of which are the same website. Doesn't seem substantiated, and there are not even any "likes" of this quote on GR, so I say delete.

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"Love is friendship set on fire"

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/13773... Keep?

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/70861... Duplicate, so delete

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/93686... Duplicate, so delete

A search for this quote + "jeremy taylor" will produce tons of hits, but an advance google search specifically of books written by him (public domain, searchable online) gets no results for this quote.

I Never Metaphor I Didn't Like: A Comprehensive Compilation of History's Greatest Analogies, Metaphors, and Similes says that it is "commonly attributed" to him, but calls it an English proverb--see here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=CCUj...

1001 Smartest Things Ever Said has it as a French proverb:
http://books.google.com/books?id=ujbf...

I believe Rivka has said that proverbs don't qualify for Goodreads quotes, and since it doesn't seem to actually originate with Taylor it should technically probably be deleted. But since it is quoted in both of the above books and seems of the type likely to reappear (mis)attributed to Taylor again, perhaps it could be designated either as a quote from Taylor but with a "misattributed" tag (as Keith was discussing in message 634), or as being quoted in one of the aforementioned books, along with the tag "misattributed to Jeremy Taylor"?

[Abigail]

This quote:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/48557... belongs with the present-day Jeremy Taylor who writes on dreams and spirituality: http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

[Parul]

#656 Done!

[Parul]

For #655 - I have moved first 3 quotes to Jeremy Taylor, the cleric's profile. And merged duplicates of "Love is friendship set on fire."

I am leaving the rest of the decisions regarding proverbs, for the librarian who is an expert in this field.

[Ian]

The Roman author Ennius, has two quotes to his name listed here, and I am fairly sure that they are the same quote, repeated twice, with a slightly different translation.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

I prefer the second of the two.

[Banjomike]

OK. The first one seems to be the most common translation around the Internet. The second one has an error in the latin and is a translation with plenty of fudging:

1st version
“The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so.”

2nd version
“He who conquers is not the victor unless the loser considers himself beaten (qui vincit non est victor nisi victus fatetur).”
NOT "fatebur"

this might be closer but doesn't read well
"who wins is not the winner, but he admits defeat"
(the "he" referred to is the defeated one)

Discuss!

[Ian]

Strangely, I am reminded of that Kenny Rogers gambling song.

"You cannot be a winner unless your opponent admits his defeat."
I know, in no way a literal translation, but it conveys the meaning?

It is not a quote that translates well.

[Heather]

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/58233...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/58246...

[Jay]

Three semesters of Latin have me inclined to a translation more along the lines of this:

"He who conquers is not the winner unless the conquered one admits [it]."

Although, if you want the direct translation, "the conquered one" ought to be "the conquered man" or "the man having been conquered." Personally, I like the sound of "the conquered one" the best.

[♥ Rebecca ♥]

Typos in the first phrase.

"I feel it in here"

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66029...

[Vicky]

Got #664

[Davytron]

Hello, could you please fix the quote at this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66099...

It currently says "“He used to say we all had a compass inside of us and what we needed to do was find it and follow it"

however it should read: "He used to say we all had a compass inside of us and what we needed to do was to find it and to follow it."

I goofed when I typed it - woops. Thanks so much in advance.

[lafon حمزة]

Got it. Didn't know that it could be done on the iOS app. You learn something new every day.

[Josh]

The top three quotes under de Tocqueville are not actually by him. They seem most likely to have been invented in the 20th century, and are getting a lot of attention lately because of their perceived relevance to current US politics:
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...

Wikiquote editors have information about all of these in the "Misattributed" section:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexis_d...

[Banjomike]

#668
"America is great because she is good" certainly looks to not be by de Tocqueville. I can find no alternative source so I would say it should go.

[Abigail]

As long as the "Love is friendship set on fire" quote http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/13773... is remaining on Goodreads, could someone move it over to http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... the profile of the correct Jeremy Taylor to whom it is (mis)attributed?

And thanks, Parul, for fixing the rest of the Jeremy Taylor quote stuff!

[Banjomike]

Abigail wrote: "As long as the "Love is friendship set on fire" quote http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/13773... is remaining on Goodreads, could someone move it over to http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... the profile of the correct Jeremy Taylor to whom it is (mis)attributed?"

That quote does not read much like a 17th century priest.

[Reader]

Please delete this quote. I added it to a wrong book. >( Thank you!

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/...

[Banjomike]

Glo wrote: "Please delete this quote. I added it to a wrong book. >( Thank you!

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/..."

Deleted.

For future reference, we can move a quote to a different book if you supply the details of the required book.

[Abigail]

Banjomike wrote: That quote does not read much like a 17th century priest.

Well, as best I've been able to discover, it isn't by him, it's actually just a saying by the proverbial "anonymous." But it is attributed to him in the popular culture for some reason (not to the Jeremy Taylor who wrote Not a Chimp). I have some "supporting documentation" links in message 655.

[Banjomike]

Abigail wrote: "Well, as best I've been able to discover, it isn't by him, it's actually just a saying by the proverbial "anonymous." But it is attributed to him in the popular culture for some reason (not to the Jeremy Taylor who wrote Not a Chimp). I have some "supporting documentation" links in message 655. "

Fair enough. Deleted. I noticed Jeremy Irons has a version of this quote. Also gone.

[Lynxie]

Hi guys, could you please edit this quote:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/53542...

It should say: ...so I'm allowed to act like one from time to time.