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Hunt the Moon (Cassandra Palmer #5)
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I like toast. This could work.
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Agreed! Let's toast with toast!! Try not to drip jam on yourself. :D
Now that I'm done with the Death's Mistress reread, I think I'm gonna read Hunt the Moon again. You know just in case there is some overlap (your bs radar should be going off now lol) . . . there is nothing bad with refreshers ;)
I love HtM so much. I don't know if I'll ever get tired of reading it.
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I'm in the mood for Cheese on Toast today - truly the food of the gods!!I will probably wait till the next Cassie book is announced before I reread Hunt the Moon. Though that could be a while yet.
I'd probably read hunt the moon then too!
Same here. I might do a full reread of the series when they announce the release date.
I'm fairly sure the next Cassie book will be out at some point in 2013, hopefully earlier rather than later, and we can do a big reread then, if anyone's into it. Though I will need to recruit assistance for that. There's no way I could handle it all myself! :)
january 1st! no? oh well. . . . January 2nd? ;)
Nah, it's gotta be January 3rd. We have such big hangovers in Scotland at New Year that we get TWO days off! All the shops are closed on 2nd Jan.
That's one day too long. I'm not reading it :-P
By the time the next Cassie book comes out, I think we'll have written our own version of the book with all our speculation!
Quite probably. Hey, if we've written our own version, do we get to come up with a title for it? ;P
Lmao Claire
the title would have to be atmosphere/day of time related and then an action like:=
Raise the Hel (hmmmm that seriously could work but is Hel atmospherish related?)
Rise by Twilight
Kiss the Stars
Count the Days
I think we should. Maybe it could be a spinoff book or something. "Everything you wish happened and more!" Or a choose your own adventure type deal.@Zeenat I like your brainstorming. Count the Days...until the DSWM is back in our lives!
Zeenat wrote: "the title would have to be atmosphere/day of time related and then an action like:=
Raise the Hel (hmmmm that seriously could work but is Hel atmospherish related?)
Rise by Twilight
Kiss the Stars..."
This is awesome!! But please ... no Twilight in the title!!
So we've had:
Touch the Dark - could be twilight time
Claimed by Shadow - Getting darker
Embrace the Night - Night
Curse the Dawn - Dawn
Hunt the Moon - Daylight I guess, cos the moon's gone
So I'm thinking it's got to be a daylight-themed title about the Sun or Light or Fire or something like that. Fire would be good since the sun's a fiery ball, plus you tend to associate fire with demons and hell, which is hopefully what the story is going to be all about!!
Claire, I suspect if we the fans wrote the next book ourselves, there would be a lot of sex scenes, naked Pritkin, toe-sucking, naked Mircea, sex scenes, Consul wrestling, sex scenes, naked Marlowe, handcuffs, sex scenes and sex scenes. I think I'll wait on KC's version before we destroy the series LMAO!
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LOL! I was probably just thinking about what I'd like to read! I forgot to mention there might be a tiny bit of time travelling thrown in, in between the sex scenes of course!
But really, would a book full of naked Pritkin be such a bad thing?
It would be a bad thing because it would be too much of a good thing. People would stop working, and just reading the scenes over and over again. Life would cease to move. Traffic would be stalled. Dinners unmade for the kids . . .
LMAO! I have visions of aliens landing in a thousand years and all they find are decaying buildings full of skeletons clutching the same book in their bony fingers!! It's a dystopian nightmare!Yup, you've got to have something to break up the naked Pritkin scenes. That's why we've got naked Mircea and Marlowe. And maybe some Cassie chitchat with Billy Joe.
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So yeah we do need some other (naked) people! :D Oh and some fighting! Fightings always a good way to get the characters sweaty and dirty ;)
ha ha I just reread the scene where cassie bandages up a newly returned from faerie pritkin. Sometimes I forget how CLUELESS she is lol.
Yup, we could have the fighting, then a nice shower scene, then an even nicer sex scene!Man, writing books ... piece of cake!! :P
Zeenat wrote: "ha ha I just reread the scene where cassie bandages up a newly returned from faerie pritkin. Sometimes I forget how CLUELESS she is lol."Ah I love that scene! It's one of my favourites, along with Cassie thinking the fridge is possessed. I think Cassie's cluelessness is part of her charm. Plus if she'd figured it out, she probably would have stopped. I wonder if Marco and co noticed what was going on in the living room.
I love Cassie, she's pretty awesome through that whole book. I think Marco noticed, that man notices everything. But I think he knows to stay out of it. And I think he kinda likes Pritkin. He had no problem with Pritkin joining them at the beginning until Mircea had a problem with him.
Is it just me, or is Marco the most human vampire in all these books? I adore him. I wonder if Cassie can adopt him as a big brother? lol
Well, to give my cynical viewpoint ...I do like Marco, but I think he's totally under Mircea's thumb. I think he's a smart guy who trying to do a difficult job and he realises that befriending Cassie and developing some trust between them is the best way to do that. He doesn't mind Pritkin because he knows that Pritkin's number one task is to keep Cassie alive, and that aligns with his goals too. (He obviously doesn't share the more personal issues with Pritkin that Mircea has!) But, I also think if Mircea gave an order, Marco would implement it, no matter what Cassie thought. He might not like upsetting her, but he'd do it, because he has to answer to Mircea.
I wish he was free from Mircea and able to decide his own path, but I don't see that happening.
Also, didn't both Cassie and Dory think that LC was the most human vampire they'd ever encountered. Though a lot of that was down to breathing and making appropriate gestures and stuff like that!
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I remember Cassie was annoyed with herself for not picking up that Tomas was vamp, but I dunno, I had it in my head that she thought LC was very human-like. Maybe the buttercup yellow outfit fried her brain though!!
I don't think Marco would ever go against Mircea, he is still a vamp after all. Marco has accepted it all and is happy with where he's at I think. I think through that acceptance comes a more "humanness".I think Tomas and LC are very human like too.
Yeah, that's a good point Zeenat. Marco is content with his lot, something a lot of the older, not quite so powerful ones don't seem to be (like that guy Nicu? that scared the bejezus out of Cassie). Marco has accepted that he's never going to be a big boss himself, so he's happy with working with Mircea, who - provided you do what he asks - isn't the worst guy to have in charge.But I haven't forgotten the scene at the start of Curse the Dawn where Mircea says Marco is in deep shit for not reporting that Cassie had disappeared. Mircea said "He disobeyed my direct command to be immediately informed of any danger to you. I could not ignore such a challenge to my authority, even were you not involved." and "I will not permanently injure him, Cassie".
Nice, huh!
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Brr.. Bad Mircea, BAD! Don't hurt nice Marco. Spank Cassie for running of instead!
Yeah, I think you're right Leodora. He didn't want the hassle. I like that he's happy with where he is. It gets unrealistic if everyone wants to be the high flyer. Some people are content to find their niche and stay there.Bad Mircea, BAD! Don't hurt nice Marco. Spank Cassie for running of instead!"
Maybe Mircea made Marco suck his toes as punishment. I bet that would have scared the shit out of Marco all right!! :)
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Wow, I'm starting to see Marco in a whole new light!! ;)
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If Marco and Mircea was having an affair, do you think Cassie would be mad?
Cassie would be like "I'm the one with the hair fetish!"
@Lannister I don't know about you, but that scene made me angry. I really wish Cassie would have told Mircea to shove it. I mean, she's Pythia, for God's sake!! If Cassie pops out for her job then that's none of his damn business! That's why I think Cassie causes some of her own problems. She could have stood up to Mircea there, pointed out that she wasn't under his authority and that he wasn't her babysitter, but she didn't. Which then reinforced the precedent that Mircea had the right to keep tabs on her every move in the first place.
Yeah, I agree Claire. Though, what goes on between Mircea and Marco is between them. So if Mircea tells Marco to do something and he doesn't do it, he'll have to face the consequences, as that's the way it works in vamp society. But, as you say, Mircea had no right to stop Cassie doing what she wanted in the first place. He treats her like a toddler who has to be protected because she's unable to see dangers all around her. Cassie's lived her entire life surrounded by danger, so I doubt she's unaware. And every time she gives in, she gives Mircea permission to continue his smothering.I'd like to leave Mircea locked up in his room while the 'grown-ups' got on with business. See how he likes it!
I second that. How Mircea deals with Marco for disobeying his orders is pretty much his business, but what Cassie does is her business, not Mircea's. I know it's been said many times before, but although I know Mircea wants to protect Cassie, he's going about it completely the wrong way. I mean, he knows Cassie is going to run off and get in to trouble, but he's never gone and given her anything to help in those situations, like really good weapons or wards etc that could save her life, or encouraged her to train. I guess he hasn't on the basis that it would encourage her to run off, but still.
Somnium wrote: "I know Mircea wants to protect Cassie, he's going about it completely the wrong way. I mean, he knows Cassie is going to run off and get in to trouble, but he's never gone and given her anything to help in those situations, like really good weapons or wards etc that could save her life, or encouraged her to train."Yeah, that's a really good point. Mircea wants Cassie to sit in her gilded cage surrounded by vamp bodyguards and only do her job when the vamps want her to. And only make decisions that have been pre-approved by the Senate. No wonder Cassie rebelled!
I was reminded of something in the Death's Mistress re-read (which seems to have died a death *sad*) but Dory talked about women's roles in ancient Romanian society. She said:
A woman could not join her husband at the dining table, but had to stay behind his chair, waiting to serve him. She ate what was left—which in peasant homes wasn’t much—when he was finished. She walked behind him when they went out, and if she went alone and a male walked in front of her in the street, she had to wait to continue on until he passed. Even if she was wealthy and he was a beggar.Man, even just reading that makes my blood boil!!
Now I know Mircea said he liked Dory's mother because she wasn't as passive as other women, but that's the attitude he would have been taught as a child, and sometimes it's hard to shake off beliefs instilled when you were young. I wonder if he still harbours an old-fashioned belief that women must be protected and aren't quite capable of making decisions for themselves. It could explain a lot of his control freakery and arguments with Dory too.
I know, that kind of thing makes me want to punch someone in the face (okay I probably wouldn't really, I'm a very non-violent person) - particularly the way women are treated in Afghanistan and that sort of thing. I suppose it's possible that there's a very small part of Mircea that still thinks that, but I reckon it must be mostly or entirely gone - I mean, he works for the Consul, who makes all the decisions and is scary as fuck! She definitely doesn't need protecting. And he's got to work with plenty of other female senators. I think it might possibly be more to do with Cassie being untrained and human (or so we all thought), so weak, and young and inexperienced. Although I don't know, maybe he might think human women need protecting and vampires are an exception to the rule?
Yeah, that's a fair point. He doesn't seem to treat female vampires differently, but then they aren't really under his 'protection' the way Cassie and Dory are (well, as he sees it, anyway). I wonder how he would treat any female vampires that he had made, since they would be part of his 'family'. I don't know if we've ever heard of female vamps belonging to Mircea, apart from Sal, but she was really Tony's.PS Agree completely about the plight of women in Afghanistan. I try to respect different cultures and don't expect everyone to behave as Western society does, even if their ways are strange to me personally. But keeping 50% of your population as illiterate possessions makes me so angry!
Well what he "sees" he believes. He even told Cassie: “It is not the same! You are this.” He gripped my arms, hard enough to bruise. “You are flesh, soft and sweet and yielding and vulnerable. You need protection, but I can’t—”
Similarly with Dory. I think he trusts Dory a bit more, maybe because she has survived for 500 years, or he has seen her deal with things that were touch first hand (like uncle vlad). But even then he tries to "protect her" by erasing her memory and not giving it back till she got it on her own . . . :::sighs:::
oh I didn't really round out my point LOL. Basically, the outside of Cassie is young soft blonde . . . a young delicate woman. He can't see or understand that Cassie is a LOT more powerful than she appears. Or trips over . . .
Yeah, I suppose from Mircea's POV Cassie IS fragile. He's used to almost indestructible vamps and Cassie is nowhere near as resilient as they are. But he's like an over-protective father with a child. Sometimes you've got to let your kids go their own way, even if you want to keep them close by to 'protect' them.
Lannister wrote: "I wonder how he would treat any female vampires that he had made, since they would be part of his 'family'. I don't know if we've ever heard of female vamps belonging to Mircea, apart from Sal, but she was really Tony's."That's a really good point, actually. We've never seen any female vamps in Mircea's family. Presumably there must be some. But none of Cassie's bodyguards are female, which would rather support the theory that Mircea still has a few old fashioned views on women left over.
And Zeenat, I reckon you're right, Mircea just can't seem to see past Cassie's vulnerable appearance. He trusts Dory a little more from experience, so hopefully he'll update his opinion on Cassie's abilities to survive on her own with time. But then his views on Dory might be because she's half vampire, so stronger, faster and quicker healing than Cassie will ever be, so who knows. I live in hope though.
PS @Lannister: Yeah, I'm mostly in support for letting other places do their own thing according to their customs, which are their own business. But there are instances like this where it just seems so wrong to me. What really gets to me is that isn't not even that they think women can't be intelligent and educated - only a few decades ago women could be university lectures, so they know better than that. They just think that they shouldn't be given education or equal rights. Which I really can't understand.
Lannister wrote: "Yeah, I suppose from Mircea's POV Cassie IS fragile. He's used to almost indestructible vamps and Cassie is nowhere near as resilient as they are. But he's like an over-protective father with a chi..."But that's what's so gross! she's not his kid! Even if he's right about her vulnerability (which I think Cassie has proven resilient in books over and over again), it's not his job to treat her like a child, overprotective or not. lol
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