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Wow, I finally got a chance to read through all the posts in this thread (five pages worth) ... I had been seeing you guys talk about MoFo, but I had missed the original link where you said what it is. Now that I had time to go back and read every post here, thankfully I have the whole story. Here is a link to Vegan MoFo, in case anyone is reading and missed it ...http://www.veganmofo.com/
It's a Vegan Month of Food ... as Lee explained back in July, it's a month when vegan bloggers strive to post something every day ... you have to register your blog for the Vegan MoFo blog roll, and apparently people can subscribe and see what all the vegan MoFo-ers are writing about ... did I get that right?
I had so much fun reading some of the Vegan MoFo favorites today.
Loved this very well-written blog with vegan menus and scary movies ... the commentary on Child's Play was hilarious.
http://donteatoffthesidewalk.com/2011...
Also I like the name of her blog, "Don't Eat off the Sidewalk." BTW, the Goodreads Gals have some wonderful names for your blogs, too, like cowhuggerslife, bloomingplatter, etc. Love it!
I also like the posts from Vegan Cine Grub.
http://vegancinegrub.blogspot.com/201...
And finally, I wanted to thank Lee for turning us all on to MoFo and so many other awesome things! I never would have known about this stuff if it weren't for you. I am enjoying reading the Vegan Month of Food blogs and maybe I'll even participate and post some things next year.
Also I read the link that Lee posted about how to take good food photography shots. This is fabulous! So much easier than reading a whole book on photography or enrolling in photography classes. I mean, it would be great to do those things, too, but just to get me started with taking better food pics, this blog is wonderful. I am posting it again, in case anyone missed it when Lee posted it earlier (and because that was a long time ago). :)
http://veganyumyum.com/2008/09/food-p...
When it comes to the Pumpkin Challenge I'd like to participate, even though I am not on MoFo. I have some pumpkin biscuits that have been a favorite in my family for a few years now ... I usually serve them with a spicy chili made with sweet potatoes, beans (of course), lime and cocoa. I used to have a blog somewhere. If I can get it going again, I definitely will, and will post the recipes there so you gals can see.
Take care,
Rachel
Rachel wrote: "I have some pumpkin biscuits that have been a favorite in my family for a few years now ... I usually serve them with a spicy chili made with sweet potatoes, beans (of course), lime and cocoa."Yum. I'd like to see both these recipes/dishes on a blog page!
Rachel ~ The two blogs you linked to are definitely awesome! Looking forward to seeing your post :)
To Everyone participating in the pumpkin 10/15 blog post, it would be really great if you posted a link to your actual blog entry. Here in this thread would be fine.Lee, Should we have a thread just for these group member joint/shared blog activities?!
Hey ladies....all those recipes looks so yum! I just got mine up there finally. Had to clean up first. It was soo good!www.carrottopvegan.com
Hey is anyone doing the Mofo Iron Chef challenge of Coffee and Bananas? I came up with a really good idea for a recipe ( I think lol) BUT...don't have time to try it out because I am going to a wedding tomorrow. I might have to try it anyway and just blog about it.
I hope I linked everyone that did the challenge on my blog. If I missed you, I'm sorry, just let me know and I can add it. I am a little tired from cooking all day and well the few too many glasses of Pinot Noir...I'm sure I will read my blog tomorrow morning and have some serious edits.
Farrah wrote: "Hey ladies....all those recipes looks so yum! I just got mine up there finally. Had to clean up first. It was soo good!www.carrottopvegan.com"
Farrah,
I wanna be a dinner guest. That lasagna (and all side dishes and cupcakes also) looks amazing. Commented on your blog. Will check the others this week. Thanks for all the links!
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Lisa, we can start a thread for group blogging activities if we don't want to keep going on this thread.
And Rachel, we'd love to have you participate with us in any way shape or form that works for you! It's so much fun to cook and blog together.
Lee wrote: "Lisa, we can start a thread for group blogging activities if we don't want to keep going on this thread."Lee, I was just thinking that this thread is for all vegan related blogs on the web, including group members' blogs.
Now that group members are blogging in sync with other members, maybe we could have a thread for members' shared activities with their blogs. Such as 10/15 pumpkin day, etc. Just a thought.
Lisa wrote: "Rachel wrote: "I have some pumpkin biscuits that have been a favorite in my family for a few years now ... I usually serve them with a spicy chili made with sweet potatoes, beans (of course), lime ..."I'd love to see the recipes too! :)
Here's my direct link http://cowhuggerslife.blogspot.com/20...
I'll edit my post and include all the other pumpkin challange blogs later! :)
PS: Farrah, like the others I'd love to be a guest in your house for dinner! It looks amazing!
Val wrote: "Here's my direct link http://cowhuggerslife.blogspot.com/2011/... "Thanks, Val. That looks yummy. I love pumpkin in curries!
Thank you, Lisa! I was really happy with the outcome and Hubby rated it highly! :D [He admitted the other day that he could imagine being 100% vegan himself in the future! *yay*]
Val wrote: "He admitted the other day that he could imagine being 100% vegan himself in the future! *yay*"That's wonderful, Val.
Thanks, Lisa! I was very happy to hear that too!:D (I've learned over the years it's better to not push him but gently guide him into the right direction! ;))
Val wrote: "Thanks, Lisa! I was very happy to hear that too!:D (I've learned over the years it's better to not push him but gently guide him into the right direction! ;))"Absolutely. I have a friend who was vegetarian for a about a decade then now vegan for about a decade, and her husband is finally nearly 100% vegan, but it was a gradual process for him, and she never asked him to change. People have to decide for themselves. Of course, if the house is veg*n then family members might be expected to eat veg*n at home; it depends on the household.
I agree a 100% with you, Lisa, about people having to decide for themselves! As much as I wanted him to immediately jump onto the 'vegan' (or before that vegetarian) 'wagon' with me, I realized it's not fair.. though I must admit I couldn't imagine living with a full-blown meat eater in the house! Luckily we're at least vegetarian in the house and hopefully in the future a complete vegan household.. At least right now we're 50/50 after my almost-10 y.o. daughter decided to go vegan a few weeks ago! ;)
Val wrote: "At least right now we're 50/50 after my almost-10 y.o. daughter decided to go vegan a few weeks ago! ;) "And yay for her!
I've been at the point for quite a few years now that I could not live in a house with a non-vegan kitchen. (I'll make exceptions for very tiny children or people on special diets, and that's about it) but most vegans I know don't feel that way. I also prefer my car to be a vegan zone, but tend to make many exceptions there, though I don't like it.
Lisa,I totally understand what you mean! It's hard, living with omnis and even vegetarians under the same roof! Being the mom, I need to make sure my so (who's already a very picky eater and on the underweight side) gets food he eats.., which unfortunately includes cheese (though I don't give it daily!) and yogurt.. I'm not happy about it and cringe inwardly every time I put such things in my shopping cart, but right now I have no choice!
Emszy,
it's not soo hard planning meals for vegan/vegetarian mixed households I'd say, but I don't like having meat in the house, which luckily my husband gave up more and more (he actually admitted the other day after having eaten meat that it felt 'nasty'!..).
The ideal is always (in my opinion) to start a life with another vegan and later start a family who's automatically also vegan. ;) If however you start out all being omni and only 1 parent makes the switch, it's definitely harder! I would have loved to make my kids vegan/vegetarian with me right then and there when I switched, but like you said, it's a personal decision and my husband & I agreed that our kids will have to make their own choice. I'm just happy my daughter made hers now already and not years later. :)
Yes, it's strange how people really do have to "wait until they're ready" before making a change in their food choices. When you're ready, it's easy to make the change, but before that time, the whole idea of it seems preposterous / ridiculous / dangerous / terribly inconvenient / whatever.
Sometimes I hear vegans complain that they can't tolerate meat eaters because they don't respect people who put their own taste / convenience / need to fit in / health concerns / etc over the need to protect billions of animals from harm. But the truth is, those people just aren't ready to process the information in a way that would make them want to change their diets. It's weird, but that's just the way it is. I know I was that way, too. I had heard about vegetarianism at different points in my life, when I was younger, and I had always thought it was a stupid idea.
Of course, that's the way my family still thinks, and naturally I thought that way, because they taught me. :)
Rachel and All, I knew someone who went vegetarian when I was 17 and I felt intimidated by her and thought the choice was weird; I'd never even heard of vegetarianism until then. A few years later I was vegetarian. As soon as I read about veganism a bit over a decade later, it resonated with me immediately, but it took me years to go fully vegan because it was really hard for me to give up dairy and eggs. Now, and for years now, thankfully, it's easy.
Rachel ~ Great points! I loved always loved animals, but it seemed so easy when I was young to separate what was on my plate from where it originated. And I made plenty of jokes about how I could never give up meat, etc. And now, of course, it seems so absurd that I ever felt that way. Like everyone has said, sometimes a point just hits you at the right time. Once the idea starts to gnaw at you, you read a little more. From that point on it seems like the more you know, the less you can avoid the truth and the important it is to make changes in your own life. This is true for me, at least. I understand that these things may not effect everyone in the same way.
Pumpkin bloggers: I just want to say that everyone's food looks so amazing! I still haven't taken the time to comment on your blogs, but I did salivate over all the tasty food and recipes ;) Not sure, if I'll get a post up or not, but we made up a nice and easy soup with our leftover pumpkin.
To those fixing for mixed-consuming households: I can't imagine. When my brother lived with us I told him that he was welcome to share food and meals, but explained that they would be vegan. Anything else he wanted was on his own. We had a family potluck once at our place with a separate grill for the meat. I felt so weird cleaning our plates off at the end of the night, that I just felt that we could only do vegan potlucks in the future. When I'm out with friends, I do not have issues with them ordering what they want. If I'm picking up the bill, I will still pay for a friend's entry regardless. But in my house I prefer everything vegan. Of course, there is the cat food...but we just deal with that. He's been in my life longer and I still feel uncertain about vegan cat food.
Oh! And if I've missed anyone's pumpkin dishes in my entry please let me know so I can add it!
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Rachel wrote: "Sometimes I hear vegans complain that they can't tolerate meat eaters because they don't respect people who put their own taste / convenience / need to fit in / health concerns / etc over the need ..."Very good point! I have to admit I'm sometimes being tested with my tolerance.. What I don't like is when people know I'm an ethical vegan and make jokes about how they could go and 'tear up a chicken right now' etc. I find that disrespectful towards me.. or am I being a bit too sensitive???
Rachel wrote: "Yes, it's strange how people really do have to "wait until they're ready" before making a change in their food choices. When you're ready, it's easy to make the change, but before that time, the w..."
I agree! When I became vegetarian, I felt like I finally fulfilled a 'calling' since I've always had problems thinking of the animal when I ate meat as a kid.. But when I shortly tried being vegan (not enough informed, I may add), I felt 'deprived', even though terribly guilty and hypocrite..
I once read a slogan somewhere and I think it described it best (for me at least) "When vegetarians grow up, they become vegans!"
Cassie,
as to the mixed household and fixing food, I'd give anything to make my house a strict vegan one! I really hope one day we will be.. even though like you said, there's still the cat food for our 2 cats...
I must have missed your pumpkin blog, I'm so sorry! I'll have to go check it out later and will also still have to add everyone's blog links!
I've made Lee's pumpkin PB oatmeal squares yesterday and Hubby had to have one as soon as they cooled down a bit (it was ~10 pm! LOL) and he was raaaaaving!!! ;)
[Thanks again, Lee, it'll be a staple in our house and I'm sure I'll try to play around with the recipe quite a bit in order to possibly create other flavors.. even though that combo is the bomb as it is! ;))
Oh, one more thing about tolerance!I have something I wanted to share with you guys and see what you think!
So there's that one group on FB that is for our military base community here in Sicily, mainly for selling stuff or wanting to buy etc.
On Sat. a woman (who told me she was vegetarian for ethical reasons!) advertised about some Italian chef from Milan now having come up with a new menu for all the Mc Donald's (!!!) in Italy! It was posted as an 'FYI' but the post really didn't sit well with me, so I couldn't keep my mouth shut and posted a link to mccruelty.com and said something to the fact that I might not be liked for this link but in case people didn't know... BIG DRAMA went on from there and the vegetarian was claiming that "we all know those restaurants don't have the best practices" but that her info was for the community's sake etc. and others defended her, saying it was part of her job (she writes a few articles for our base newsletter)
I responded that I honestly couldn't understand how an *ethical* vegetarian could post such a thing and that to me personally it would be as if a nun tells someone where to get the best hooker!
Ok, yes, I admit, maybe a bit harsh of a comparison.. but that's how I feel!!!
(Others, non vegs, chimed in of course and said it was a horrible thing to say, that if one is not catholic one shouldn't recommend a certain church to visit, bla bla..)
What do YOU think about that issue? [By now the post has been edited by the group admin on FB and all of my responses deleted.. I guess I'll be quiet in these regards on that group from now on when it comes to subjects like that!..]
Hehe I think the comparison with the nun suggesting the best place to find a hooker is HILARIOUS! LOVE IT. As far as what the "ethical" vegetarian did...I understand your frustration. We have friends they say they are "Pescatarians" and I just grimace. The worst part is...I have seen her at a bar eating chicken wings and when confronted, she says "Well it's just a few and I really love them." BUT....she claims that he is "Pescatarian" because she loves animals. Clearly she just doesn't love fish or...the occasional chicken.
I give you a lot of credit for speaking up Val. Good for you to stand up for what you believe in.
Hmm ... well, if she had to post the info about the McDonalds, because it's part of her job, like editor of a newsletter, that's one thing. But if it was just an FB post that she did of her own free will, that's kind of strange. But maybe she just thought it was something of interest to those on those on the military base, because she knows that most of them eat at McDonalds. All in all, with the facts given so far ... I don't think it's necessarily such a bad thing that she posted it.This reminds me of a friend of Lisa and mine, from Santa Cruz. He has been vegan / veg (I'm not sure if vegan or veg), for many years, and he says that he'd be willing to buy Omaha Steaks (have you heard of those mail-order steaks??) for his relatives at Christmas because it's something easy to order and something he is sure that they will really appreciate.
I remember being a little shocked at the time, when I heard him say this. But ... he had been veg for a lot more years than me (decades!!!), and he must have found some additional wisdom. I definitely feel uncomfortable picking up the bill for meat eaters when they choose to eat meat, but if that's the way they want it, and if you have already offered to pick up the tab ... well, sometimes, perhaps that might be the best way to go, if it's going to maintain harmony in our human relationships.
It's not an easy thing.
Also, do you know that McDonalds (in the United States) now has some meat-free dairy-free egg-free salads and some oatmeal with nuts and dried fruit in it and NO WHEY POWDER or any other non-vegan ingredient that I could find! I found out about this when I was stuck at a McDonalds in Kansas City last January with my non-veg friends and their toddler offspring. I was only a little hungry, and I thought, well, maybe I'll order some fries ... since, in the past, whenever I had popped my head into McDonalds, all of the salads were pre-prepared and had MEAT in them already, so there was literally nothing other than fries and soda that I could order (and I don't drink soda!!). Augh! Anyway, yeah. I was way stoked to see they had added a garden salad to the menu (with no animal products), as well as that oatmeal. And the oatmeal you could order unsweetened, which I did. It was delicious!
What a pleasant surprise. So Val ... another tack would be to encourage people to buy oatmeal and garden salads at McDonalds until they run out and have to keep re-stocking those items. If this keeps happening, I think eventually McDonalds will catch on that they need to put more vegan items on the menu. I would love to see McDonalds transition to offering an all-vegan menu, and all because that's what people want. You know, like the vegan stuff is the only thing people are buying these days. :) (in my dream) I envision the same thing for Taco Bell. They have some yummy vegan options there. If that's all people were ordering, eventually they would change their menu. Can you imagine how awesome it would be if every McDonalds and Taco Bell were converted to veganism?
So I definitely would encourage people to eat at McDonalds, as long as they promise to only order the vegan items. :)
Val wrote: "I once read a slogan somewhere and I think it described it best (for me at least) "When vegetarians grow up, they become vegans!":-D
p.s. Val, I do agree with you that it's strange that your "ethical vegetarian" acquaintance on FB posted something that seemed to encourage people to eat at McDonalds, but I was also trying to step in her shoes and try to imagine where she may have been coming from.
Rachel wrote: "This reminds me of a friend of Lisa and mine, from Santa Cruz. He has been vegan / veg (I'm not sure if vegan or veg), for many years, and he says that he'd be willing to buy Omaha Steaks (have you heard of those mail-order steaks??) for his relatives at Christmas because it's something easy to order and something he is sure that they will really appreciate."He's lacto-ovo vegetarian, Rachel, and yes, for many years.
I personally like giving my business to vegan and then vegetarian places. While I applaud restaurants that serve meat for offering vegan menu items, I still don't want to support them, particularly a place such as McDonalds that earns billions a year from animal suffering; they're never going to sell so many vegan items that that will stop. And I buy only vegan items, whether for myself or others. A few years ago I took a few friends to a vegetarian restaurant and two of them ordered dairy/eggs, which I paid for but felt uncomfortable doing so. About a year ago I took one friend out (omnivore but I thought she'd order vegan) to another vegetarian place and she didn't order vegan. I decided that was my last time. If I take out non-vegans, I'll do so only at a vegan restaurant; that way they can order anything they want and I don't have to pay for non-vegan food. Problem solved. At least in my area where there are plenty of vegan restaurants from which to choose. But everybody feels differently about such things; I accept not everybody will feel as strongly as I do.
Lisa wrote: "Val wrote: "I once read a slogan somewhere and I think it described it best (for me at least) "When vegetarians grow up, they become vegans!":-D"
And when vegans grow up, they become Happy Herbivores.
Ha ha ha! Just kidding. But as we all know (especially based on the Happy Herbivore's treatment from the vegan police), some vegans are pretty un-grown-up, too!
This is only being said in good humor, of course! The quote (about "when vegetarians grow up, they become vegans") is good for Val, or for anyone who feels that it sums up his or her own transition from vegetarian to vegan.
But I also don't want any vegetarian to hear the quote out of context, and to feel like he/she is being made fun of. (Clearly that was not Val's intent, but only if the quote were taken out of context.) So ... I was just injecting a little extra humor of my own. :) I believe in harmony for all the different types of eaters, everybody is somewhere along the continuum, finding their own path.
Also, I imagine the continuum of eaters being like a tree with a bunch of different branches where all the little birds can sit, and no bird is necessarily sitting higher or lower than the others; i.e., one bird is not necessarily morally better or worse than the others ... they are all sitting on different branches of the same tree.
Farrah wrote: "I am so excited about our pumpkin multi-blog. I have been thinking about so many recipes to make. I think I am going to use both canned pumpkin and fresh pumpkin. I have a couple of recipes in mind..."Thanks, Farrah. Not sure if you got mine, but how nice of you: http://www.thebloomingplatter.com/?p=....
Happy to return the favor on The Blooming Platter if anyone wants to share their link.
Lee wrote: "That's a great idea Farrah! I'll post links to all our group members doing our pumpkin mofo challenge. I'd be willing to do another one too as long as there's a bit of time in between. We only..."
Lee, do you happen to have the links as a group to share? I'd be happy to include on TBP!
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Those are good points, Emszy ... but part of what I was unsure of ... was the self-professed vegetarian lady saying she eats meat at McDonalds (surely not ... !?!) or was she simply linking to a news story about an Italian chef making the menus ... maybe because she thought it would be of interest to the other people who would be reading the facebook comments (because Val is at a military base in Italy)? Also, was the intent of her story to say "Hey Everybody, go eat at McDonalds!" or was it to say, "Hey everybody, this big international food service chain has a new chef and he's Italian, ooh-la-la!"
I can see how those would be two separate things.
Also, I think the people on the forum should have lightened up and not gotten so upset about Val's comment about nuns recommending hookers. Ha! That was a good one, and if people can't see the humor in it, they need to drink a little more wine or something! Also, I think it's good that Val spoke up and posted the links about mccruelty.com and all of that. Val, I think you were doing a great service to people to make them aware of it. If they don't know about mccruelty.com, and the surrounding issues, they need to get their heads out of the sand!!!But for the vegetarian lady, I think she was perhaps not necessarily being hypocritical by posting it ... depending on the situation.
So I agree with Val posting and raising awareness about mccruelty.com, but I don't necessarily agree with people who might want to jump on the vegetarian lady's case and call her hypocritical for posting an article about McDonalds getting a new chef. And I don't agree with the moderators of the FB group who apparently deleted Val's posts. I'm sure her posts were not inappropriate, and those moderators were just being lame, in my opinion.
AND ... I wouldn't necessarily think a nun would be hypocritical for advertising some escort services / hookers. :) Depending on the situation!!! Many things are possible. :)
Thanks for all your replies, girls!I really appreciate your input and point of views!
Rachel,
I have to say, big kudos for you for being so tolerant towards other people! I don't think it's easy for just everybody to put oneself into another person's shoes for a while, especially on a subject such as this!
When I'm passionate about a certain thing (such as being vegan - or before being vegetarian even), I'm sometimes not able to see a 'grey zone' in between.. I guess I'll have to learn a lot still and admire your ability to do so already!!!
To clarify things, the vegetarian lady was telling the group about the new Italian Mc Donald's chef apparently just as it was printed (written by her) in the base newsletter -which I didn't read. I only found that out later though as the post started kind of like "For every Mc Donald's fan out there, just FYI.."
She did mention that she's vegetarian when someone asked her about how the burgers taste, but said she'd have her husband test them and that she would try the desserts or something.. [Which I've been in that exact position, omni husband, me being vegetarian and my kids asking if they could have some fries from Mc D. -which we let them have in the past maybe 3x in the 3 yrs. that we're here- and my husband ending up having a burger and as a result me feeling very uncomfortable even *being* at that place! I don't want to support those kinds of chains, even if I personally don't buy meat but another product!]
Here in Sicily Mc Ds are very rare, so they're kind of an 'attraction' I guess.., especially for many Americans who come here and are used to have one on almost every corner..
It's hard to explain, but her post just didn't give any vibe of "I'm just sharing this for the community's sake." Maybe she did mean it as such but to me it didn't come across like it, and latest when she responded to my link with "I think we ALL know those restaurants don't have the best practice of how to handle the animals" I've lost my respect for her, honestly! How can you call yourself being an *ethical* vegetarian (which to me is a big difference than someone who chooses not to eat meat for health reasons alone!) and yet say things like that?
Which brings me to the point that's been mentioned here by Farrah as well, of how often vegetarians claim to be such but then end up "just a little bit" or "sometimes" meat.. Then you're not vegetarian, period! I've lost count how many times as a vegetarian I've been asked if I'd eat "chicken at least?".. As if chickens aren't animals? -And yes, the same goes for fish, even though I've never liked fish so I never had an issue to 'give it up', but I agree with Farrah and think the whole 'Pescatarian' thing is another thing that doesn't sit well with me!..
I don't mean to be a vegan or vegetarian 'police' myself but like it's been said here too already, people who throw those claims (being veg) around and then end up eating meat put the rest of us in a false light or make us look deprived!
Lisa wrote: "Rachel wrote: "This reminds me of a friend of Lisa and mine, from Santa Cruz. He has been vegan / veg (I'm not sure if vegan or veg), for many years, and he says that he'd be willing to buy Omaha S..."Lisa, I absolutely concur with you and would do the same if I were to go out with omni or even vegetarian friends! Like I mentioned before, with my son being so young and still eating dairy, I have no other choice here unfortunately than to buy him an occasional yogurt or cheese.. but if I *had* other options like soy or other plant based yogurts for ex., I'd immediately do that instead! I just don't have that 'luxury' here, unfortunately! :(
I agree about the quote with vegetarians growing up (loved the continued spin with vegans growing up to happy herbivores! ;) ) being a bit intimidating and maybe even slightly stand off-ish to vegetarians! I'll be honest, while I was a vegetarian I thought this slogan was stupid and it sounded as if a vegan says it from her/his high horse!.. Now *being* vegan I totally get the meaning behind it though!!
But yes, I agree, Rachel, it can be taken the wrong way by vegetarians and I'd never throw it in a vegetarian's face!
My posts on that FB group got deleted, yes, but I guess in the end it's good as it really escalated by so many people jumping and flaming ME not the vegetarian lady! (I only had another vegetarian like my post and personally message me, saying she agrees with me!) Like I said, many took it out of perspective and said I shouldn't use other people's posts for my personal crusade etc. (to which I had to reply that they'd be assured IF I were to have a crusade about it, it would look entirely different! ;) ) and then the jokes of how good meat tastes etc. began..
This group is very drama-ish to begin with and I've learned my lesson to just be quiet. We're a very little community here, which makes everyone be in everyone's business quickly(especially here on base housing!..) and that board is just another outlet for such, even though it wasn't intended to be, you know?
Emszy wrote: "Val wrote: "Oh, one more thing about tolerance!I have something I wanted to share with you guys and see what you think!"
Well done for saying something. So many times I see things like that and j..."
Thank you, Emszy!
That was how I felt as well. Being a writer for the base newspaper or not, that kind of info is something one really doesn't have to advertise -especially if it's been written in the newspaper already!
Honestly, I won't say anything anymore on that board about anything. I've spoken up quite a few times in other issues (getting puppies, asking where the tails can get clipped as the vet on base doesn't do it, etc.. -Don't get me started!!!), it's just very upsetting to see so many people not care!.. :( [I see it every day with dogs being kept in the tiny backyards, sometimes even on a leash.. Be it rain or bright (hot!) sunshine and no shelter..]
Ahh.. that's a whole 'nother story..
Thanks for letting me talk about this, girls! I can only vent so much to my husband and it helps knowing there are people in the world that understand me! ;)
Val, you made me chuckle, I love your spirit!I think you should keep shaking things up on that board, people are listening and if u can keep it from getting too heated, people may be receptive abd learn a thing or two from you!
That is, if it's not too stressful ... take care of yourself first, of course!
Thank you, Rachel! I appreciate your kind words and really wish I had some girls like you all here!!! (Thank Heaven for the internet!!!)
I'm not sure about shaking things up on that board.. but I will certainly speak up with issues that are close to my heart! Dr. Seuss' quote is my motto for life: "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter won't mind, and those who mind don't matter!" ;)
Rachel wrote: "That is, if it's not too stressful ... take care of yourself first, of course!"Sorry, I only saw this now after I already replied! ;)
See, I think, the problem is, I do get worked up over things and have a hard time 'shaking it off' and moving on with my day.. It stays in my mind and influences my mood.., so right now I think it's best for me to just stay away from such situations...
I guess I wouldn't be a good activist, huh?.. ;)
Oh Val, i think you're a wonderful activist already, speaking up about the puppy tails and all of that. Bravo.
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I posted mine earlier today! ;)
Looking forward to read everyone else's! :)