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message 1: by Heather (last edited Aug 08, 2010 10:10PM) (new)


message 2: by Heather (last edited Jul 31, 2010 10:24PM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
So, I'm reading these right now. I really liked book 1 and 2. I'm currently working on Pride right now.

***spoilers*** (Pride) up to p.350
I'm getting very frustrated with both Malone and Faythe. Marc's right, Faythe needs to learn when to keep her mouth shut. However, I understand that when you're being judged by a system that is using your trial for political gain rather then to seek justice, you're going to act pissy. I'm tired of old me trying to play games the lives of others and it makes me sick to read about that particular theme. I've been growling at this book for about an hour and a half now. And what has happened with Marc... we'll just say I think Malone needs to be castrated and his manhood should be served up to him on a plate seeing how he's a... (Okay, apparently I'm really, really angry since I just started typing and I didn't realize that I was getting ready use a word I never use in reference to anything other than my kitten. For some reason I don't feel like deleting where I was going with that so I'm sorry if I offend.)


message 3: by Heather (last edited Jul 31, 2010 10:17PM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I read the synopsis' of the next books. I shouldn't have done that.

***Spoilers***(Pride)

I did enjoy the book despite my earlier comments. A good book elicits a reaction, even if that reaction makes your stomach churn. I don't like that part of Malone's argument for Marc being expelled was that he couldn't be expected to protect Faythe. He was the one that showed up when no one else did to save her butt once again. I get being punished over failure to follow the rules so I won't argue further.
I love the bear. He seems like the only sensible one in the story.


message 4: by Stacia (the 2010 club) (last edited Jul 31, 2010 10:19PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments I really like the bear! Because I love getting to experience the shift process along with Faythe through Vincent's description, it would be interesting to go through what it feels like to be a bear. Their senses/abilities are probably much different than what Faythe experiences in cat form.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
Do you guys think I should give Pride a few days before starting? It looks like the last 3 will all be predominately political. Will I be just as ready to strangle some of the characters? After reading the summary for book 5, I do know what one of the big surprises will be for book 4 concerning faiths family. Apparently what starts in this book will all get wrapped up in Alpha since it'll be the last book in the series.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments This series is a power struggle throughout. The pride politics remind me of the male dominance found in the Mercy Thompson series.

If you're interested in the Jace/Marc dynamic, it starts to pick up more over the next couple of books. Some new characters are introduced, and I find that even though Faythe (and the prides) can be a bit tedious sometimes, the books do get better with each installment.

Shift (book 5) is my favorite of the series.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I do enjoy them. I love to read series straight through without any time between books, but I feel like I might need to cool down after this one. The author did a great job of illiciting that emotional response from me. I was okay with it all in Mercy, but it doesn't feel so life and death to me. I love Briggs, but she doesn't seem to kill of as many of her characters. Vincent likes to kill her characters off, which makes it more dramatic.


message 8: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Heather if you feel like you need a break, then take one. I really liked the political aspect of the books. You are coming up to some surprising things. I can't wait for Alpha, in a way I am sad that it is ending.

I also think that this is one of the series where the main character really changes and grows up during the course of the series.


message 9: by Heather (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I don't normally mind politics, but Malone just got to me. He reminds me a bit of a principal I use to work for and his reign of terror has made the school a dumping ground since most of us went elsewhere to get away from him.


message 10: by Jessica B (last edited Sep 01, 2010 01:28PM) (new)

Jessica B | 292 comments I haven't read these ones yet but I've had a hard time finding them in Canada. Book one and two aren't available to order new... which really blows me away. I ordered the last three and it took me forever to get them and then I ordered books 1 and 2 used... and only book 1 came. I reordered book two used and I'm hoping it shows up sometime in the next few weeks! JEEEZ! I just want to read these books but I can't bring myself to start book one without having book two within my grasp!


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments I really enjoy this series, so I hope that you get a chance to find the books in your country.


message 12: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Well Jessica look at the bright side, by the time you get #2, the last one will be out (comes out next month), so you will be able to blow through these and get resolution and know what will happen instead of waiting a year for the next book. :)


message 13: by Jessica B (new)

Jessica B | 292 comments Darcy wrote: "Well Jessica look at the bright side, by the time you get #2, the last one will be out (comes out next month), so you will be able to blow through these and get resolution and know what will happen..."

HaHaHa! That is very true! :) Thanks for keeping me upbeat!


message 14: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 1746 comments Jessica, you should try your library. Mine has the audiobooks. I listened to the first, but Faythe really annoyed me. Haven't picked up the next in the series.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments Book 1 was the weakest. Book 2 was better, and books 3 through 5 were very good.

Compare Faythe to Mac in Fever and you'll get where the author is going with the character.


message 16: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Very well said Stacia. Faythe definitely grows over the books.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I paused before reading number 4. I'm stalling until 6 is closer.


message 18: by Jessica B (new)

Jessica B | 292 comments Carrie (Care) wrote: "Jessica, you should try your library. Mine has the audiobooks. I listened to the first, but Faythe really annoyed me. Haven't picked up the next in the series."

Thanks Carrie! To be honest I never even thought to look at the library. Seems kindof silly of me seeing as how it would be a great place to look! I've never been much of a library person I find whenever I borrow a book, I don't really want to give it back!


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments Alpha finally released for pre-order on Nook, so I'm happy now. Another week or so and we'll finally know if it's going to be Marc or Jace.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
Gah! I have to catch up!


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Angela B I still haven't gotten to the first one....


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
So many distractions. I'm going to be classified as a hoarder if I bring any more books into this house.


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Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments B&N is actually shipping Alpha already.


message 24: by Jessica B (new)

Jessica B | 292 comments The good news is that I received all of my books finally in this series. So once I get my hands on Alpha I'll be able to read right through them! I'm really excited... now I just need to find the time! :)


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I've bought too many books in the last few week that are coming out Tues and in October. I don't know if I'll get to Alpha for a bit. I'll probably cave knowing me.


message 26: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments So I finished Alphalast night, stayed up late to finish it, and who boy was it good. There was resolution, I have to say that I am happy with the way things turned out, but do think that she could have continued this series. There are moer things that could have been told.

I have lots to comment on, but will refrain from that until more of you are done reading it so there won't be any spoilers.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments *supposedly* there is supposed to be a spin-off series at some point.

I should be reading this tomorrow, since I can't access the ebook before midnight.


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Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Do you know what the spin off is to be about Stacia?


message 29: by Stacia (the 2010 club) (last edited Sep 30, 2010 01:46PM) (new)

Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments I don't even recall where I read about it at. Most likely it was in the Shifters group on GR. It's hard to take anything as fact without seeing it mentioned on the author's blog or website. The best I can say is that I've seen the spin-off mentioned more than once, but no one ever seems to have any info about it other than having "heard things," so who knows if this will even happen.


message 30: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Well if you find out make sure to tell us.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments *** Mini - Spoilers (nothing major though) ***

Ugh...I liked Alpha, but having the book end like it did without really getting to know more about what happened to Kaci, Manx, Owen, Holly, and Ethan's baby mama left me a bit frustrated. Not to mention knowing how the reformed prides were going to work and if any other pride was going to continue to cause problems (not to mention what they were going to do with the newly alligned strays...)

There should have been one more book to tie up the series better. I know that the journey was about Faythe, but I can't help the fact that I started to care about what happened to everyone else.


message 32: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Stacia, I agree with you, there is lots more story to tell within this series.


message 33: by Heather (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
Arg! To much to read right now!


message 34: by Angela (new)

Angela B still haven't gotten to this either?


message 35: by Irene (new)

Irene Hollimon | 89 comments I just started Alpha (Shifters, #6) by Rachel Vincent


message 36: by Heather (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
Prey is next on the Shifters list. I think I'll read Venom next though.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
Argh!!!! So the big "deal" isn't what gets to me. This damn attempt at a dictatorship....I'm not getting past my hatred for all of this.
Jasmine, if you ever have to "create" a government let me know. I've got a great idea. Scares the living daylights out of my kids.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments If it's that tough to get through, don't feel bad if you have to quit out.

I try to get people to try book 2 because book 1 is weaker than the rest of them, but you've given the series a fair go and if it's not working for you, don't feel like you have to keep going.

No sense torturing yourself if something about the books bothers you that much. :(


message 39: by Heather (last edited Oct 27, 2010 02:44AM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
No, I love it! I just get so pissed that I can't strangle Malone myself that I have a hard time not throwing the book across the room. I hate chauvinistic bastards that think they should be dictators. I've never heard the phrase "he was a good dictator" listed in the history books unless it's propaganda. Generally anywhere from 10-100 years later the tune has changed and the country quits kidding themselves.

I REALLY want to see Faythe castrate the jerk before she kills him. I'm not the murderous type. I might kick and punch, but I couldn't stand by and watch someone be killed. If it's in self-defense and it's you or them, then fight, but plotting and planning to ruin/kill/rape someone? He needs to be castrated.

If you knew me, you'd know how far that is from anything I would ever do in real life, and yet Vincent can write characters that piss me off this much.
I don't particularly like being pissed off, but at least the bad guys evoke something. Black Dagger Brotherhood had me bored to death with their villains.

Sorry my comments have been rather pissy concerning this series. It's because Vincent is actually capable of taking me to that point. I think she's a wonderful writer and I love that I'm getting my were fix. I've felt like I needed a good (non-YA) were book for the past few weeks. For some reason I don't count Dark-Hunter's weres...


message 40: by Heather (last edited Oct 12, 2010 03:41AM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
This is from an interview with Vincent on the spin-off issue:

"The question I’ve gotten most often by far since Alpha started leaking out was, “Will there be a spinoff?” Some people seem to have heard somewhere that there will be a spinoff, and those people usually ask questions about this supposed spinoff. So let me just answer that question here, to hopefully avoid having to answer it another dozen times in the comments. ;)

I’m not going to swear that there will never be a spinoff. But I am not currently planning one. Nor am I contracted for one. Nor have I ever proposed one. I don’t even know who would narrate this supposed spinoff, should one ever happen. And right now, for the record, though I am thrilled to see how many of you want one (demand it, even!) I am not thinking about a Shifters spinoff.

I’m so sorry to disappoint those who were expecting one, but unless a brilliant new plot arc smacks me over the head…I have no more novel-length Shifter stories, unless I’m willing to rehash old territory. Which I am not. That wouldn’t be fair to me, to the characters, or to the readers."


message 41: by Heather (last edited Oct 12, 2010 09:16AM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
(Bangs head on desk. Again. And Again. And Again.)
I don't understand! The series is good, but it's not the best out there. Why the heck does it do this to me?!?!?! I get into books all the time, but I've never been this bad before. I keep forcing myself to put it done and come on goodreads to distract myself for a few minutes. (hence the massive amounts of comments.)


message 42: by Irene (new)

Irene Hollimon | 89 comments After six books, I've come to like the Shifters universe. A spin-off would be cool. I haven't heard anything though.


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Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I have spent the last 50 pages shaking. I can't stop. Maybe it's lack of sleep, but I doubt it.

***Spoiler*** (Alpha)

After I finished bawling my eyes out after the first major skirmish I haven't been able to stop. I knew something had to happen since the book was called Alpha, but I thought her dad would be forced down through politics. Not how he was.


message 44: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 2770 comments Heather that was what I thought you were crying about earlier. I know what you mean, it was a tough scene to read.


message 45: by Heather (last edited Oct 12, 2010 09:17AM) (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
From a few pages in? ...

***Spoiler*** (Alpha)

That was because she was describing how the attempted rape haunts her at night. I can't begin to imagine how painful that would be and it hurts to read because I know there are people that live that way.


message 46: by Heather (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I finally finished. I think I cried 3 times.

BTW, no comments on my version of justice for Calvin is making me feel evil. =)


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 827 comments So as a whole, what did you think of the series?


message 48: by Heather (new)

Heather T (horrorvacui000) | 5931 comments Mod
I liked it. There were times I got upset, but I still liked the series during those times.


message 49: by Jess (new)

Jess | 120 comments Just finished Stray. Thanks for recommending it :)
I think this will be a series that I like.


message 50: by Carrie (Care) (new)

Carrie (Care) (care76) | 1746 comments The second was better than the first, I will probably get to the third at some point.


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