[2022] Wild Discussion Showing 2,201-2,250 of 2,340

[Nancy]

Emily, how soon after the list is finalized will the final order be posted? Not trying to be pushy, just curious really. IIRC it was fairly quickly last year.

[Thomas]

Let's see if this si the final poll

[Jillian]

Steve wrote: "Jillian wrote: "I thought this was an interesting prompt that did not make it and it might appeal to those who want a prompt connect to the year. I'm also copying it here so I can try and copy and ..."

I was looking back at my top votes that did not make it and thought this one was a creative one that did not make it. I'm glad you were able to resubmit it.

[Jackie, Solstitial Mod]

Nancy wrote: "Emily, how soon after the list is finalized will the final order be posted? Not trying to be pushy, just curious really. IIRC it was fairly quickly last year."

I would say once we have the final prompts in (whether that's after this poll or after a potential next poll), give us about ~3-5 days to get it in order. We'll then start posting threads for each prompt a few at a time like we did last year. We all enjoyed spreading it out just a bit rather than once massive flood.

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

I've pretty much gotten the final order down, minus the two missing prompts that might require some movement (like Earth Day did last poll). It should be fairly quickly that we have the final list order, but like Jackie said, the weekly threads will be a bit slower coming.

[Thomas]

I know this is too late for this year cos it would be a multi week but. What about "a book mentioned in another book AND the book its mentioned in"?

[Shannon SA]

Yes I like that, Thomas. We have our first suggestion for 2023 LOL :)

[Jill]

Thomas wrote: "I know this is too late for this year cos it would be a multi week but. What about "a book mentioned in another book AND the book its mentioned in"?"

But how would you know it is mentioned in a book if you hadn’t read the original one?

[dalex]

Jill wrote: "Thomas wrote: "I know this is too late for this year cos it would be a multi week but. What about "a book mentioned in another book AND the book its mentioned in"?"

But how would you know it is mentioned in a book if you hadn’t read the original one?"

There was something similar in the 52 Book Club challenge this year - a book mentioned in another book and an endorsement by a famous author on the cover.

For the endorsement prompt I read The Great Alone, which had a blurb from "Kate Morton, author of The Clockmaker's Daughter." So for the mentioned in another book I used The Clockmaker's Daughter.

So, there is a way to make that prompt idea work, if maybe worded a little differently.

[Alicia]

My concern with that is how would I know whether another book is mentioned in what I choose to read? Would it just be by chance and hope something I read mentions another book?

[Jill]

Alicia wrote: "My concern with that is how would I know whether another book is mentioned in what I choose to read? Would it just be by chance and hope something I read mentions another book?"

Yes. That is what I was trying to say.

[Dubhease]

Jill wrote: "Thomas wrote: "I know this is too late for this year cos it would be a multi week but. What about "a book mentioned in another book AND the book its mentioned in"?"

But how would you know it is me..."

I have seen the prompt "A book mentioned in another book".

I thought it was a great prompt until I realized that neither my library or bookstore could find a copy of the book I wanted. (I'd read Northanger Abbey - people who have read it know exactly what book Catherine mentioned repeatedly.)

[NancyJ]

Jill wrote: "Thomas wrote: "I know this is too late for this year cos it would be a multi week but. What about "a book mentioned in another book AND the book its mentioned in"?"

But how would you know it is me..."

Someone who knows of a few would have to share them and start a list! : )

I now have an unbelievable number of book lists on paper, in word files, in excel files, in lots of folders, bookmarks, bookmarked folders, in goodreads posts, goodreads listopias, etc. etc. What a mess it is. I could use a professional organizer just for my lists.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

Well, the most commonly mentioned book in other books is probably the Bible! I don't think books are often mentioned in other books, except nonfiction which cites references and experts. As far as fiction, it's rare in my opinion. I think modern authors avoid specifically naming each other. They might say, "He was reading one of those mystery novels about a genius girl hacker in Sweden" rather than "he was reading The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."

Authors sometimes mention their own other books in introductions or acknowledgments.

Thomas, you have almost a year to come up with examples! I'm probably missing many ways to look at it.

[Jillian]

Robin, we must read different books. It seems like every book I read mentions at least a dozen other books.

[Rachel]

Obviously it's way too early to decide how I'd vote on a prompt for the following year (unless we end up with one more poll this year somehow), but I'm not that interested in the "book mentioned in another book" idea. I've done it a few times before in various challenges, and it's always very difficult for me to find anything other than the same few classics or Harry Potter. I guess I'd have to start looking at more nonfiction books that discuss other books or something. I really wish more authors would mention current books/authors, but I can see why they wouldn't.

[Juliet]

I read Miranda James’ Cat in the Stacks series pretty religiously and I don’t think there is a single book in the series that doesn’t mention at least 3 other mystery novels

[NancyJ]

Shannon wrote: "Yes I like that, Thomas. We have our first suggestion for 2023 LOL :)"

That would be fun. I think this is the original definition of books about books. There are a lot of novels that mention other books. Some are casual mentions and others are discussed at length. Here are some lists.

I especially liked these:
The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry - I followed up and read several of this suggestions.
Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress
All the Light We Cannot See - A Jules Vern book

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/...

Northanger Abbey - I never wanted to read Mysteries of Udolpho, but I know several people here who have read it. The ebook is available for free on amazon, libraries and online services since it's in the public domain.

[Aimee]

Robin P wrote: "They might say, "He was reading one of those mystery novels about a genius girl hacker in Sweden" rather than "he was reading The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."

I read The Starless Sea a few weeks ago and there's a section where a character picks up a book "with a raven on the cover, that was about two wizards in England" and I squeed because I love Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell and it was nice to see it referenced. I wonder how many authors leave little Easter eggs like this about books they enjoyed?

[Jill]

Aimee wrote: "Robin P wrote: "They might say, "He was reading one of those mystery novels about a genius girl hacker in Sweden" rather than "he was reading The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."

I read [book:The Sta..."

But then you wouldn’t know that until you read it. Also it was about a book you had read. I don’t do rereads as life is too short, and there are plenty of books I haven’t read yet

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

Jillian wrote: "Robin, we must read different books. It seems like every book I read mentions at least a dozen other books."

Actually the very first thing after I got off my computer and started to listen to a sci-fi audiobook, there was a mention of another author's book! So I am probably just not noticing.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

NancyJ wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Yes I like that, Thomas. We have our first suggestion for 2023 LOL :)"

That would be fun. I think this is the original definition of books about books. There are a lot of novels t..."

Yes, but if I have read The Mysteries of Udolpho or the Jules Verne book, or don't want to, that's pretty restrictive. Some of us are trying with more or less success to reduce our TBR and the odds are against those books appearing in other books we happen to read.

[Reed]

I'm reading different varieties of books📚 that I enjoy no matter what the book is

[Thomas]

Anyone thinking of suggestions for poll 18 in case we need it?

[Nancy]

Jillian wrote: "Robin, we must read different books. It seems like every book I read mentions at least a dozen other books."

This is my experience as well. Pop Sugar had this prompt a few years ago and I did find it difficult at the time. But since then I have noticed that almost every book I read mentions another book, especially if it's contemporary fiction.

[Shannon SA]

Thomas wrote: "Anyone thinking of suggestions for poll 18 in case we need it?"

"A book mentioned in another book you read."
ROTFL
Just kidding :) :)

[NancyJ]

Robin P wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Yes I like that, Thomas. We have our first suggestion for 2023 LOL :)"

That would be fun. I think this is the original definition of books ' books. There are a ..."

True. I'm not sure I would want to read Balzac either (to go with Balzac and Little Chinese seamstress). While reading All the Light we Cannot See, I decided that I DEFinitely don't want to read that Jules Verne book (I hated the lead character).

I would highly recommend The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry. I did read several of the books he mentioned in the book. It's perfect for the poll 17 booklovers prompt.

[Nancy]

AJ Fikry has been on my TBR for a while, my library finally has it. I will definitely read it if that prompt gets in.

Another rec for a book and another book mentioned in Dear Fahrenheit 451: Love and Heartbreak in the Stacks, you can't go wrong there!

Pretty much any book that has a book lover will mention another book.

[Sheena]

I just noticed on the 2022 Plans spreadsheet that the "2 Books with the Same word in the Title" prompt only occupies one row on the spreadsheet, instead of a row per book for the prompt. I wasn't sure if this was just an error on the spreadsheet or if this throws off the current prompt count.

[Jillian]

I believe Emily is just keeping one line on the planning tab but will make two lines on the 2022 tab.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

I really liked Among Others where a teenage girl loves sci-fi/fantasy and is literally saved by books at one point in the story. It mentions probably dozens of books.

[NancyJ]

It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood sign was erected in 1923 (it said Hollywoodland originally). A book set in Hollywood or made into a Hollywood movie.

The Walt Disney Corporation was formed - a book related to Disney. (btw Walt Disney had a dark side that you won't read about in Disney sanitized bios.)

The First 24 Le Mans race was held (100 years of Le Mans). A book related to racing, cars. Go Like Hell: Ford, Ferrari, and Their Battle for Speed and Glory at Le Mans

Yankee Stadium Opened in 1923; A book related to baseball (or Babe Ruth)

The Chimes of Big Ben were broadcast on BBC radio for the first time: Read a book set in London. Or - as was discussed this year: Read a book related to the BBC.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

NancyJ wrote: "It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood sign was erected..."

Very cool, make sure to save these for next year. If it were me, I would forget them by then!

[NancyJ]

Robin P wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood s..."

I won't remember either, but I started a file called ATY 2023, so maybe I'll notice it come next summer.

[Nadine in NY]

NancyJ wrote: "It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood sign was erected..."



I like these tie-ins! Some other ideas:

* Hollywood: read a book set in southern California

* Disney - bring back the Disney song prompt; or, read a book that was turned into an animated movie (is that too narrow?)

* le Mans - read a book set in France, or by a French author

* Yankees - read a book set in NYC

* Big Ben on the radio - read a book about technological innovations; or, read a book by a journalist (a reach?)

[Jill]

Big Ben. London,Westminster, Parliament, Bells, Time.

[RachelG.]

For Hollywood I would think that a book related to the movie industry would be a good idea.

[NancyJ]

Nadine wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood s..."

Disney has a lot of live action movie that were based on full-length adult or middle grade level books. Animated films are often based on fairytales or short books, but there are many (longer) retellings of the same stories. I had this in a challenge last year and it wasn't my favorite. Hollywood had a lot more options.

I like your France focus for Le Mans better. Ford vs Ferrari is the only racing book I liked.

[Thomas]

It’s fun to be talking 2023. Don’t forget we might still have one more poll this year

[NancyJ]

Gosh I hope not.

However, when Nadine mentioned New York City, I realized that I have several NYC books on my must read list, but no obvious matches to either the 2022 list or the leftover list. So if we have to do this again, I'll be thinking of the leftover list.

[NancyJ]

Emily, how is it looking? Do you think we will have two winners?

[Jackie, Solstitial Mod]

NancyJ wrote: "Emily, how is it looking? Do you think we will have two winners?"

You will have to wait and see! No sneak peaks lol!

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

Results will go up as soon as I wake up tomorrow morning! :)

[Shannon SA]

it's morning! Here in South Africa anyway LOL! We're 7 hours ahead of CST, so still some hours to wait!

[Rachel]

Nadine wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "It's going to be hard to stop looking for more prompt ideas. I'm already going through withdrawal pains.

I couldn't resist looking at events that occurred in 1923:

The Hollywood s..."

Obviously I'm biased, but I'd rather keep it to the Disney song prompt or something similarly Disney-inspired but broad. Many Disney movies are based on books, but a lot of those books are older classics that a lot of people will have either already read (Alice, Peter Pan, etc), or else not have much interest in reading.

I might be making assumptions there based on my own reading, but I personally would probably downvote a book that became a Disney movie, unless there was an option to include retellings of some of those books. I think the only ones I haven't read yet are Pinocchio, Bambi, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I've even read all the fairy tales since I took a Children's Lit class and a class specifically about fairy tales in university and college. But in general, looking at my list of Disney titles, there are only about 18-20 movies that were based on a book or fairy tale, so it seems pretty limiting.

[Kat]

I love the Hollywood idea. It's never too soon to come up with ideas. I always have a notes page to jot ideas throughout the year. I would never remember them by the time next years polls starts.

[Rachel]

Just out of curiosity, I went ahead and made my Rejects Challenge list to see how many prompts would be on it. My Rejects Challenge is the prompts that I personally voted for that didn't make the cut. I was curious to see whether I had around the same number on that list as previous years, since I feel like I generally upvoted less.

I ended up with a total of 48 books on the list (including a 3-week multiweek prompt), after removing duplicates or any that did actually make the list in the end. I still have 3 pairs of prompts on there that could easily be combined into one, I'm just not sure yet which wording I prefer, so really it will be a total of 45. For my 2021 Rejects Challenge, I had a total of 53 prompts, so it's actually not too far off.

Of my all my upvotes this year, 20 made the final list out of 74 total upvotes (including duplicates). None of my upvotes were ever in the bottom. I also had 66 downvotes, including duplicates and counting each multiweek as just 1. Ten of my downvotes were also in the bottom as voted by the group, but 4 of my downvotes did make the final list.

[Thomas]

great discussion guys. We seem to have a great list

[Beth]

This was my first year tracking my votes. I had 22 upvotes make the list (that's including multiweeks so 25 weeks of prompts total) and 5 downvotes. Most of my downvotes I have now realized are workable so I guess my stats are not as bad as they seem.

It felt like there were a lot of great suggestions this year so it was quite disappointing some rounds to not see any of them make it. However looking at the full list now I'm pretty happy with it. I think this tends to happen every year!

I wouldn't be able to take on a rejects challenge but if I did, there would be 42 prompts that I voted for that didn't make the list. I hope some of them can be resubmitted for 2023.

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

I love these statistics.

I had 25 prompts that I upvoted make the final list (so that means I upvoted over half of all the prompts, if you consider multi-week prompts). Of those, there was only one poll where at least one of my upvotes didn't get in.

I had 8 of my downvotes make it on the final list, including one multi-week, so 9/52 prompts I downvoted. Not a bad statistic, all things considered.