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message 1901: by Thomas (last edited Sep 22, 2021 02:37AM) (new)

Thomas IMO it seems too similar to the on or near a body of water one


message 1902: by Duygu (new)

Duygu | 29 comments Thanks for the input Thomas!


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Joyce | 615 comments I have six family birthdays in September. They’ve already caused me to miss the last two suggestion round and I know I won’t see tomorrow’s either. If anyone liked the bees and wanted to resubmit it as an idea with their wording or mine, please do!

My wording with the right Goodreads links this time is below:
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There is a Goodreads shelf here:

https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/...

And a short list here: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

But there are so many different ways you could go with this.

There are many current ecology books plus books on gardening to encourage bees.

Lots of international bees from The Beekeeper of Aleppo to Ukraine’s Grey Bees.

If you think about The Birds & the Bees that steers towards romance and erotica. Plus honeymooners and The Unhoneymooners and A Honeybun and Coffee plus other foodie books.

There is fantasy with The Bees and dystopias about life without them. There’s crime with The Colour of Bee Larkham’s Murder.

And, of course, there’s always Winnie-the-Pooh


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Alicia | 1490 comments Hey Duy, I would like it because I could read about mermaids. But I think it’d be really hard for anyone that doesn’t read fantasy novels. The only options for them would be a book that occurs in a submarine, which I haven’t looked up but assume are limited.


message 1905: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (new)

Robin P | 4035 comments Mod
Actually underwater seems really tough to me. There are nonfiction books about creatures, coral, etc. and fantasy as Alicia mentioned but that doesn't seem like enough. If you have a listopia to look at, that might help.


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Robin P | 4035 comments Mod
Joyce wrote: "I have six family birthdays in September. They’ve already caused me to miss the last two suggestion round and I know I won’t see tomorrow’s either. If anyone liked the bees and wanted to resubmit i..."

I would go with the famous beekeeper, Sherlock Holmes.


message 1907: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 22, 2021 10:14AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments Duy wrote: "On another note... What do you guys think about this prompt:

A book that takes place mostly underwater"


If you think of any good ones, could you please add them to this listopia? We need more! Thanks! (We have The Deep and Hunt for Red October, maybe a couple more.)

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 1908: by Nancy (last edited Sep 22, 2021 10:30AM) (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Looking at some standards from previous years, we don't have the following:

A prompt related to "Around the Year." We've done all combinations of the letters ATY, and a prompt with the words "Around the Year" was suggested early on but didn't get in. I'd like to see something with this combination but we already have so many title prompts already so I'm not sure how else we could do it.

A Goodreads Choice prompt.

A book where page count is important.

I'd personally like to see another genre prompt that's specific (so not "your favorite genre"). I like the sub-genre idea that's been floated.

Enough prompts, IMO, related to the year 2022.

A non-fiction prompt.

A prompt related to a song or movie. I have really enjoyed these, when the prompt was My Favorite Things or We Didn't Start the Fire. I think we just haven't hit on the right one yet.

A prompt from a previous ATY challenge. Maybe to narrow it down it could be from the 2016 challenge since that was the first one and it was 5 years ago.

I would be happy to suggest any of these if others agree or aren't already doing it, assuming I am up in time, 7am CST is 6am for me and I don't get up that early.


message 1909: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 22, 2021 10:30AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments Joyce wrote: "I have six family birthdays in September. They’ve already caused me to miss the last two suggestion round and I know I won’t see tomorrow’s either. If anyone liked the bees and wanted to resubmit i..."

Joyce, I love the idea. I think it took me a little time to warm up to it. I hope someone resubmits it. I'm not sure if I'll be here either.

Note - your second link goes to a different list (not about bees). Are there any listopias?

It's a fun one to search, not just for title words, but for the plots. Not too broad, not too narrow.

Bees (and beekeepers and honey) evoke special meanings and themes, and they can be found in many different genres - nf, fiction, fantasy, coming of age, mysteries, ecology, cultural, different languages and countries, hostage rescue. There is at least one good environmental fiction book.


message 1910: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 22, 2021 11:38AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments Nancy wrote: "Looking at some standards from previous years, we don't have the following:

A prompt related to "Around the Year." We've done all combinations of the letters ATY, and a prompt with the words "Arou..."


Great list Nancy. This is a very helpful approach.

I really loved the Author with a long career this year (and the new-to-me author prompts). I discovered many great new-to-me authors this year. The 2021 listopia has many great current authors. I noticed it was a prompt that many people didn't get to yet, and maybe that's because the initial info included an article that focused on classic authors (many of whom are long deceased). I think some might be surprised. There are many many that I still want to read.

ADDED:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I would love to see a similar suggestion for An Author with a long-career, or a new-to-me author whose career spanned 22+ years. Or 20 years. Perhaps we could include a short list of authors that includes young authors in other genres too. Does anyone recommend an author who has been writing for 20 years, but wouldn't make the cut for 22?


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dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Nancy wrote: "A prompt related to "Around the Year." We've done all combinations of the letters ATY, and a prompt with the words "Around the Year" was suggested early on but didn't get in. I'd like to see something with this combination but we already have so many title prompts already so I'm not sure how else we could do it."

A main character whose name can be found in the letters? A main character with a name that start with A, T, or Y? A book with a story that takes place in a year or less? A book with a circle (a round) on the cover?


message 1912: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments Nancy the suggestions start at 7:00 PM CST tomorrow night (not AM). Can you make in then? I'm not sure yet if I can.


message 1913: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Oh, ha! Totally missed that. 6pm is even harder on Thursdays but if I can remember I should be able to pop in.


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Kendra | 2128 comments dalex wrote: "A main character with a name that start with A, T, or Y? "

I really like that option.


message 1915: by Jillian (new)

Jillian | 2938 comments This year we had both a short and long book. I suggested a medium length book for next year, 300-400 pages, but it was disliked. I’m not sure if anyone really wants a page based prompt. Long and short would be repeats and repeats don’t tend to do well especially this year.


message 1916: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11245 comments Mod
I think 300-400 pages is really wide open since most books are in that range. I would like a long book prompt... I always want an excuse to slot in a book that's longer than I would normally read for a challenge.


message 1917: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) I would agree with Emily. Even though they are technically repeat prompts, really short or really long books are more appealing to me than anything in the 300-400 range.


message 1918: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Please not another long book prompt. A book enough is tough enough without demanding a stonker


message 1919: by Thomas (new)

Thomas EDIT: a book a week is tough enough


message 1920: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) I don't think it's a 'demand' for anything. Some people like long books and some don't, hence the reason we vote, to see what the masses want 😁


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Alicia | 1490 comments At this point, with the prompts we already have, I don’t think I’d vote for a page prompt.

I’m generally not that excited by page prompts as I’ll always pick up a couple long books and novellas every year. I also feel like if people want a long book, they can always plop one into another prompt


message 1922: by Lindsey (new)

Lindsey | 96 comments °~Amy~° wrote: "I would agree with Emily. Even though they are technically repeat prompts, really short or really long books are more appealing to me than anything in the 300-400 range."

I would vote for a long book prompt. I have several that are 500-600 pages that I really want to read, but I've been putting them off because I want to finish the challenge first. I was glad to have an excuse to do a long one for it this year.


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Lindsey | 96 comments dalex wrote: "Nancy wrote: "A prompt related to "Around the Year." We've done all combinations of the letters ATY, and a prompt with the words "Around the Year" was suggested early on but didn't get in. I'd like..."

I agree, I also like to have a prompt related to ATY. I think the idea of a book that takes place in a single year is a creative way of doing it and would totally vote for that.


message 1924: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (last edited Sep 22, 2021 07:57PM) (new)

Robin P | 4035 comments Mod
I like the idea of a book that takes place in a year. One I can think of is Scarlet Feather, which goes from New Year's to New Year's. But you usually won't know that's the case until you read the book. Another one is Under the Greenwood Tree, which traces village life through the year.

I guess we could say the book takes place in a year or less, since many books take place over only a few days, weeks, or months. But maybe that's too easy.


message 1925: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 22, 2021 08:40PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments For the ATY letters, I would find it way too time consuming to search for the names of main characters. If we've used all the good title and author options, maybe we could just restart the list and go with something that was used a few years back.

Robin, I tried to search for books that were set within one year, and nothing popped up (but I was in a different search engine at the time). The only one that popped in my head was ... ? and now it popped out again... a book set on the Siberian peninsula about two missing girls. It has 12 chapters covering 12 consecutive months.

I think a book that takes place within a year (even if it's only 2 months) would be OK. I'd rather have a more meaningful theme though.

Have you tried a title without the word "the". I can't even remember what we have this year for A T and Y.

I think my brain clearly needs to sleep now. See y'all tomorrow.


message 1926: by Beth (new)

Beth | 450 comments I really like the takes place over a year idea! Fiction might be difficult to research but there are definitely a lot of memoir-style non fiction that would fit perfectly, such as:
The Year of Living Danishly: My Twelve Months Unearthing the Secrets of the World's Happiest Country
The Happiness Project: Or Why I Spent a Year Trying to Sing in the Morning, Clean My Closets, Fight Right, Read Aristotle, and Generally Have More Fun
Sorry I'm Late, I Didn't Want to Come: An Introvert's Year of Living Dangerously

Now I that I look at those they all have 'year' in the title so that might also help to pick out some fiction books, e.g. My Year of Rest and Relaxation


message 1927: by Juliet (new)

Juliet Brown | 264 comments The Harry Potter books all take place over a school year, and it’s been a while but I feel like that is true of the Percy Jackson books and most of the Anne of Green Gables series as well


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T. Hampton | 104 comments Juliet Brown wrote: "The Harry Potter books all take place over a school year, and it’s been a while but I feel like that is true of the Percy Jackson books and most of the Anne of Green Gables series as well"

Yes on Percy Jackson - a year or less. Not so on Anne. Some of those books take place over 2-3 years.


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Dubhease | 1214 comments Juliet Brown wrote: "The Harry Potter books all take place over a school year, and it’s been a while but I feel like that is true of the Percy Jackson books and most of the Anne of Green Gables series as well"

The Anne books mostly span a few years. The first one takes place when she's between 11-16. The second one 16-18. The third one, her 4 years at university.


message 1930: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2994 comments There's a listopia for memoirs set over a year:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/2...

For fiction, I suspect some contemporary YA will follow a school year. It's not something I tend to make note of though.


message 1931: by Kat (new)

Kat | 567 comments All the one year books I can think of that I've read recently are YA (One of Us Is Lying, Truly Devious, People Like Us). I'd be fine with that but we might need more adult fiction examples to appeal to the wider group. Maybe books with teachers or professors would follow a similar pattern but I can't think of any right now.

I really don't think another title prompt would make it so finding a different approach would be good.

We do have a book with a time related word in the title so you could use year for that.


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Duygu | 29 comments NancyJ wrote: "Duy wrote: "On another note... What do you guys think about this prompt:

A book that takes place mostly underwater"

If you think of any good ones, could you please add them to this listopia? We n..."


I added a few, the list looks huge at the moment!


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Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 705 comments Thomas wrote: "Please not another long book prompt. A book enough is tough enough without demanding a stonker"

Love your word "stonker" :)


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Nadine in NY Jones | 2286 comments NancyJ wrote: "Robin, I tried to search for books that were set within one year, and nothing popped up (but I was in a different search engine at the time). The only one that popped in my head was ... ? and now it popped out again... a book set on the Siberian peninsula about two missing girls. It has 12 chapters covering 12 consecutive months. ..."


Disappearing Earth


message 1935: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11245 comments Mod
I read and loved Disappearing Earth this year (like top 10 books so far) and I completely forgot the chapters were months lol. That kind of thing doesn't stick with me, apparently, but I don't mind the prompt itself.


message 1936: by dalex (last edited Sep 23, 2021 05:58AM) (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments When I suggested the idea of a book that takes place in one year, I meant a book that is not something like a multi-generational saga that occurs over decades or a dual timeline novel. I did not mean a book that takes place in precisely and exactly one year. I think that would be a BIO option for the prompt - and a rather hard BIO at that!


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Robin P | 4035 comments Mod
dalex wrote: "When I suggested the idea of a book that takes place in one year, I meant a book that is not something like a multi-generational saga that occurs over decades or a dual timeline novel. I did not me..."

That's a great way to put it - so it's a book that takes place "within one year" or "over a year or less", something like that, and the "exactly a year" can be a BIO. Lots of mysteries and thrillers take place over a few days or weeks because with a killer at large, time is of the essence.


message 1938: by Nancy (last edited Sep 23, 2021 06:43AM) (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments I like "within one year." dalex are you going to suggest that since it was your idea or did you have something else in mind?

Have you tried a title without the word "the". I can't even remember what we have this year for A T and Y.

I feel like early on there was "title without 'the'" but again, no more title prompts! :) This year for ATY we have author without the letters. I agree that character starting with ATY would be hard. I don't really like character prompts related to names, TBH, as they can be hard to research.

In the past we had:

A book with the letters A, T & Y in the title
A book where the author’s name contains A, T, and Y
A book with a title that doesn't contain the letters A, T or Y
A book by an author whose name doesn't contain the letters A, T or Y

I also feel like we have enough "author's name" prompts that I don't want another one like that anyway.

All that is to say I think "within a year" is a good way to get the challenge into a prompt. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.


message 1939: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Nancy wrote: "I like "within one year." dalex are you going to suggest that since it was your idea or did you have something else in mind?"

I won't be available for the suggesting this poll so if someone else would like to do it that would be great!


message 1940: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments Nadine wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Robin, I tried to search for books that were set within one year, and nothing popped up (but I was in a different search engine at the time). The only one that popped in my head was ..."

Disappearing Earth.

Thanks Nadine. That's it. I've had prednisone insomnia this week so when my brain said sleep NOW, I finally obeyed. Otherwise the computer gives me a second wind and six hours later I'm still at it.


message 1941: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2994 comments I don't see 5 to be an excessive number of title prompts, especially as one of them is title or author... If someone came up with a clever title prompt I wouldn't immediately dismiss it.


message 1942: by RachelG. (new)

RachelG. I just came up with an idea and would like feedback.

A book that completes the sentence: Around the year with __________.

Some book examples would be Charlotte’s Web, The Ghoul Next Door, My Sweet Girl, Hostile Intent.


message 1943: by Thomas (new)

Thomas RachelG. wrote: "I just came up with an idea and would like feedback.

A book that completes the sentence: Around the year with __________.

Some book examples would be Charlotte’s Web, The Ghoul Next Door, My Swee..."
So basically any title that fits as the end of that setence?



message 1944: by RachelG. (new)

RachelG. Yes. But I don’t think all titles would work because I am currently reading a book called Leave Only Footprints and it wouldn’t fit.


message 1945: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (last edited Sep 23, 2021 07:32AM) (new)

Robin P | 4035 comments Mod
RachelG. wrote: "I just came up with an idea and would like feedback.

A book that completes the sentence: Around the year with __________.

Some book examples would be Charlotte’s Web, The Ghoul Next Door, My Swee..."


Any title that is a name would work, like Around the Year with Jane Eyre.

But I think as it is phrased it is too cryptic to succeed in the voting. On the poll, there is no explanatory information or examples and that is all that some people look at. I think they won't "get it" so won't vote for it.


message 1946: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3680 comments I'm curious about which prompts were people's favorites or least favorites this year.

Do you think completion % is a good indication, even though some people follow the calendar schedule? I know many people are working on other challenges too.

Is there a survey or discussion question topic where people share their favorites? If you read extras of some, that might be an indication too.


message 1947: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11245 comments Mod
NancyJ, we usually put out a survey in December that people can take to let us know their favorite and least favorite prompts.

You can see the 2020 results here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
And the 2019 results here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 1948: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Well the Summer Olympics prompt being a least favorite might explain why Winter Olympics for 2022 isn't getting in.


message 1949: by dalex (last edited Sep 23, 2021 07:50AM) (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Robin P wrote: "But I think as it is phrased it is too cryptic to succeed in the voting. On the poll, there is no explanatory information or examples and that is all that some people look at. I think they won't "get it" so won't vote for it."

A book with a title that fills in this blank to create a complete logical sentence - "around the year with ________"

Maybe?

ETA: I love this prompt idea! A lot!


message 1950: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2994 comments NancyJ wrote: "I'm curious about which prompts were people's favorites or least favorites this year.

Do you think completion % is a good indication, even though some people follow the calendar schedule? I know ..."


There are still 3 months left in the year and a lot of people haven't finished yet (like me). I try not to leave all the hard prompts till last, so that % complete is no useful indication for what prompts I like.


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