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I was thinking of a "year of the tiger " Chinese zodiac prompt.
One could read a book by an author born in a year of the tiger: 1926, 1938, 1950, 1962, 1974, 1986, 1998, 2010, 2022 (not so likely to read a book by someone in the last few years).
One could read a book that has a tiger in it.
One could read a book set in China.
One could read a book by a Chinese author.

I was thinking of a "year of the tiger " C..."
Yes to this. Unlike some symbols tiger has great possibilities. But maybe also include book published in any of those years.
Ellie wrote: "Robin P wrote: "Another challenge group recently used American Pie. It has tons of lyrics! ..."
Just a reminder we rejected that one last year due to Don McLean's domestic abuse charges and people..."
Oh, thanks, I forgot that! Good catch.
Just a reminder we rejected that one last year due to Don McLean's domestic abuse charges and people..."
Oh, thanks, I forgot that! Good catch.
Emily wrote: "Robin, I tend to agree with you about the prompt that didn't make it in, but that is a suggestion that keeps making it on the list every year so I'll leave it in the pre-poll for now."
I don't think it's a problem, I just meant it gives an option for those who wished we had a free choice option.
I don't think it's a problem, I just meant it gives an option for those who wished we had a free choice option.

Fair point.

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Please no....I really dislike classics, historically I've struggled through them, but in the last few years (since being diagnosed with a rare non-curable cancer) I've decided life is too short to read books I dont enjoy so use a wild card for the classics if they are chosen.
Thomas, the pre-poll is a poll of commonly suggested prompts that we vote on before the suggestion process starts, kind of to get them out of the way. This year, the only one that made it in the pre-poll was "a book published in 2021", but "a prompt suggestion that didn't make it" and "a goodreads choice nominee" were both in the pre-poll but were suggested and voted on later in the process.
Rachel, we don't have themes for the polls. We want a well-balanced list, of course, but we let the group decide what that looks like. Thomas is correct in saying that we will occasionally say "oh we would like to have more genre prompts" or "it looks like we only have 1 or 2 character-driven prompts" and encourage people to suggest those, but we don't usually dedicate polls to specific types of prompts. (I say usually because it has been done once or twice in the past, but it's the exception.)
Like Jillian mentioned, we usually have one multi-week poll (this year's winner of that poll was the past, present, and future prompt). We don't allow multi-week prompts to be submitted in a normal suggestion round, but we do have one dedicated poll for them. We have also had "Close Calls" polls the last two years with prompts that made the close calls list (meaning they were almost voted in but didn't quite have the upvotes for it). That's something we decided to do after looking at the list and seeing how the votes were distributed, but it's not guaranteed to happen every year.
Hope this helps!
Rachel, we don't have themes for the polls. We want a well-balanced list, of course, but we let the group decide what that looks like. Thomas is correct in saying that we will occasionally say "oh we would like to have more genre prompts" or "it looks like we only have 1 or 2 character-driven prompts" and encourage people to suggest those, but we don't usually dedicate polls to specific types of prompts. (I say usually because it has been done once or twice in the past, but it's the exception.)
Like Jillian mentioned, we usually have one multi-week poll (this year's winner of that poll was the past, present, and future prompt). We don't allow multi-week prompts to be submitted in a normal suggestion round, but we do have one dedicated poll for them. We have also had "Close Calls" polls the last two years with prompts that made the close calls list (meaning they were almost voted in but didn't quite have the upvotes for it). That's something we decided to do after looking at the list and seeing how the votes were distributed, but it's not guaranteed to happen every year.
Hope this helps!

Please no....I really dislike classics, historically I've struggled through them, but in ..."
That was why I had put the word modern in - there are plenty of 'modern classics' - new books that become instant hits , not just old classics.
Kendra wrote: "Bec wrote: "Kendra wrote: But I was thinking, would "Read a classic (modern or traditional)" work for a common prompt?"
Please no....I really dislike classics, historically I've struggled through t..."
Harry Potter is certainly a classic! As are many other children's books. This is what I mean by being "creative" with prompts you don't like, there is usually a way to interpret them that can work for you. You could say The Martian is now a classic, or even something like Gone Girl.
Please no....I really dislike classics, historically I've struggled through t..."
Harry Potter is certainly a classic! As are many other children's books. This is what I mean by being "creative" with prompts you don't like, there is usually a way to interpret them that can work for you. You could say The Martian is now a classic, or even something like Gone Girl.



It's actually really interesting to see how spot on or way off the discussion is... around 50-60% of the votes we get on the polls are from people who don't participate in the discussion (can't say if they read the discussions, but they don't contribute) so it's always worthwhile to suggest a prompt if you like it, because there's chances other people do as well!

I've been keeping a list of ideas as I think of them so here are a few.
A book about independence- I saw there are a few anniversaries this could be linked to but takes a more broad approach so you could include a person going out on their own etc.
A book set in a place mentioned in I've Been Everywhere by Johnny Cash- it might be a bit US centric but some of the places have the same name as places in other countries.
A book related to the 22nd chemical element Titanium- this might be a bit easier than my suggestion of Scandium last year as more people have heard of it.
A book with a dwelling on the cover or in the title (flat, house, cottage, cabin etc.)
I really loved my bingo suggestion from last year but not sure it works for 22. Not sure what you could read for two little ducks.


“I’ve Been Everywhere” has its own Wikipedia entry saying it was originally an Australian song and that there are a multitude of others including England, Czechoslovakia, Catalunya and even a lockdown version called “I Ain’t Been Nowhere”. So, even though I can only only think of Johnny Cash it doesn’t have to be US-centric.
I used to call bingo once upon a time and was thinking two little ducks could be expanded into ‘associated with water birds’ which goes beyond Ducks, Newburyport into herons and pelicans and Jonathan Livingstone Seagull via The Ancient Mariner. Also books about wetlands, bird reserves etc.

“I’ve Been Everywhere” has it’s own Wikipedia entry saying it was originally an Australian son..."
Just asking how would you make a prompt out of I've been Everywhere?

I didn't realise there were so many versions of I've been Everywhere. Time to do a bit more research but that definitely makes me feel better about it.
Associated with water birds is a great idea. I'm sure I've seen plenty of books with seagulls on the cover and there are other ways to interpret it as well.
Thomas, my original idea was to read a book set in a place mentioned in the song but it could end up evolving into something else.
Thomas wrote: "Just asking how would you make a prompt out of I've been Everywhere?."
The prompt Kat suggested:
A book set in a place mentioned in I've Been Everywhere
The prompt Kat suggested:
A book set in a place mentioned in I've Been Everywhere


This is one I've been thinking about, I like it.

I also like the idea of a title with a body of water in it. It is the type of prompt that would make me do some research to find a book I may normally not read.


I've been playing with an idea for a prompt. Since Nosferatu came out in 1922, I was thinking of suggesting a prompt related to that film (set in Germany, written by German author, featuring a vampire character, etc.).
I had a few other ideas that I didn't write down because I was like, "I'll remember them!" Yeah, right, lol.

Is it at all possible to allow multi-week prompts to be suggested in other weeks? Or at least 1 other week? Because it's not always easy to think of a good one in the span of 1 poll, and some people aren't able to suggest theirs in time (because of time zone problems, or even just forgetting about the poll).

I was thinking of a "year of the tiger " C..."
Every year is a year in the Chinese Zodiac, so I don't think it makes sense to say read a book set in China because it's the year of the tiger, specifically. This year is the Chinese year of the ox, and 2023 will be another animal of the Chinese zodiac. That said, I suggested this prompt last year and it didn't get voted through so hopefully you have better luck trying this year!! I do still really like Robin's suggestion of a book related to a zodiac sign, whether its a Western or Asian zodiac sign. You can still read a book related to tigers for that one to make it more relevant to 2022!
Irene wrote: "Is it at all possible to allow multi-week prompts to be suggested in other weeks? Or at least 1 other week?."
In the past people complained about the multi-weeks being included in other polls, largely because it felt difficult to compare say a 3-week prompt to any 1-week prompts. There's also just a lot of people who do not like multi-week prompts at all. Last year we had a poll and the most popular option was to have one poll for multi-weeks, allowing the possibility of multiple winners, but not allow them in any other polls. We could do another poll again this year to see if people would want to explore other options.
In the past people complained about the multi-weeks being included in other polls, largely because it felt difficult to compare say a 3-week prompt to any 1-week prompts. There's also just a lot of people who do not like multi-week prompts at all. Last year we had a poll and the most popular option was to have one poll for multi-weeks, allowing the possibility of multiple winners, but not allow them in any other polls. We could do another poll again this year to see if people would want to explore other options.

In the past people complained about the multi-weeks being included in ot..."
Thanks Jackie, I do remember that poll from last year. I didn't realize people didn't like them being included in regular polls; I guess I just thought if people didn't want them, they just wouldn't second or vote for them. But I get why the single poll is probably a lot more organized and easier to follow!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_...
And the German version:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/jackie...
Since the song also mentions desert and mountain, those could be used as settings too. I would vote for it.


Me too


I'd be very surprised if there aren't some. Like cover and genre ones they tend to find a market.


I would probably vote no on the dwelling prompt because it's very similar to the building-in-a-title prompt from this year!
That said, I like the prompts related to titanium and the ducks! A little challenging to find, but they sound super fun, like a scavenger hunt.

but isn't the point of challenges to go outside your normal read. If anyone thinks they can fill a challenge with just sci-fi they will probably be disappointed.

Definitely. But I just added in that part about it being difficult to find in certain genres as a side note. It's not the reason I wouldn't vote for it. I 100% support going outside of your comfort zone by reading more diverse authors, books about social issues, reading other genres, etc. That's not the same as me disliking prompts that require researching books ahead of time. As a planner, I plan out my entire challenge ahead of time so just as a personal preference, I don't like prompts where I have to look things up, like an author's birthday, the date of publication, where a book is set, etc. I know not everyone is like that!!

Just a reminder that everyone does challenges for different reasons, and that’s ok! It’s great if you read to push yourself out of your comfort zone, and it’s great if you don’t. We don’t want to be dismissive of anyone’s reasonings here.
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