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Shannon wrote: "I came up with a prompt I thought would be interesting, and I am thinking about proposing it, but wanted to see what people thought.A book about a woman who changed history.
In honor of Women’s..."
Do you think it could be "a woman or women"? I just picked up Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History and I'd love to read/recommend it for this prompt.
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Shannon wrote: "I came up with a prompt I thought would be interesting, and I am thinking about proposing it, but wanted to see what people thought.A book about a woman who changed history.
In honor of Women’s..."
I would vote for this prompt. I just bought The Mothers of Manipur: Twelve Women Who Made History and it is the perfect book for this one.
I think "woman or women" would work just fine!
Shannon wrote: "I think "woman or women" would work just fine!"I may suggest leaving out the in honour bit when you suggest it, Just cos the order is decided later and not everyone follows it.
Shannon wrote: "I think "woman or women" would work just fine!"You could even just keep your original wording of "a woman" because a book about women, plural, would already include a singular woman! I also personally like the connection to women's history month because I would love to do that prompt in March (I'm usually always falling behind in the first half of the year xD)
Irene wrote: "Shannon wrote: "I think "woman or women" would work just fine!"You could even just keep your original wording of "a woman" because a book about women, plural, would already include a singular wom..."
I agree I just think putting that in the pormpt can backfire. I know Popsugar once had a prompt that told you when you could read it and it attracted strong feelings both ways. WHich is not always helpful in a democratic poll
Typically the prompts don't have things like a month being honored in them, however, when ordering the prompts the mods do take things like that into account, so I think it's good to include it in the description.e.g. February is Black History Month, so this year's prompt for the USA Today's Black Novelists You Should Read was in February, as was a love story, for Valentine's Day. LBGTQ prompts are usually in June because of Pride.
Irene wrote: "Shannon wrote: "I think "woman or women" would work just fine!"You could even just keep your original wording of "a woman" because a book about women, plural, would already include a singular wom..."
Yes that is what I was thinking. "A woman" includes "women" - it doesn't say "a woman alone." ... Just since the simplest prompts seem to do better in polls.
Nancy wrote: "Typically the prompts don't have things like a month being honored in them, however, when ordering the prompts the mods do take things like that into account, so I think it's good to include it in ..."Yes but the reading order is a guideline as the mods often emphasize if the prompt says "read this in March" that would imply this msut be read in March.
Shannon wrote: "I came up with a prompt I thought would be interesting, and I am thinking about proposing it, but wanted to see what people thought.A book about a woman who changed history.
In honor of Women’s..."
This would be a good one for non-fiction:
Seven Women: And the Secret of Their Greatness
I read it earlier this year, and it was great.
We have had prompts connected to months, holidays, anniversaries etc many times and I don't recall anyone having that issue. Generally people read in the order they want and don't worry about those details.
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Exception would be if the prompt said something like "read a book in a month that has that same month in the title" or something like that... but that's the prompt requiring it, not us.
But also, we typically remove unnecessary qualifying information from prompts before they go on the final list. For example, you could vote on the prompt "In honor of Women's History Month, a book about a woman who changed history", and we would probably shorten it to just "A book about a woman who changed history" for the final list.
Shannon wrote: "I came up with a prompt I thought would be interesting, and I am thinking about proposing it, but wanted to see what people thought.A book about a woman who changed history.
In honor of Women’s..."
Yes! I have many of these on my tbr. There were a lot of women who did extraordinary things during WWII and much of it was classified. Many of the women in Stem books could fit here. Female leaders in history. Queen Elizabeth 1 made some tremendous advances and there are many books about her. (One was used in a Leadership courses).
I think "changed" might be too strong, because people tend to give credit to a leader/politician, rather than the many people who actually made the change happen. I use "women in history" on one of my shelves.
I'm worried that with the fictional books we'll end up with only wives or daughters or famous men - which actually is fine too as long as it's based on facts. Benedict Arnold's wife is really interesting, but the book on Einstein's wife has almost no factual basis. but I digress.
I don't use twitter anymore but I used to follow someone who wrote about a new woman in history each day.
For the prompt I prefer "women" rather than "woman" mainly because there are some great books about groups of women e.g. Hidden Figures, Codebreakers, spy groups, as well as compilation books.
Can someone please post a link to the 2021 prompts sorted by category… i.e. title prompt, setting prompt, etc. thank you.
Lizzy wrote: "Can someone please post a link to the 2021 prompts sorted by category… i.e. title prompt, setting prompt, etc. thank you."That list is here.
Kendra wrote: "Lizzy wrote: "Can someone please post a link to the 2021 prompts sorted by category… i.e. title prompt, setting prompt, etc. thank you."That list is here."
Kendra linked to the 2022 list (which we are creating now), but I also found the 2021 list (the list we are currently reading) in the archives - not sure which one Lizzy meant: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
I'm searching for shelf tags on women/history to see which ones are most useful. It's interesting to see the different books on each list.Based on these lists, I would go with Women's History or Women in History.
woman-in-history - 68 tags
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**Women-in-history 4062 tags
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womans-history 500
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woman-history 155
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historical women - 923 (bios)
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history-women 553
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famous-women 392
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Women who changed the world - no shelves
Women-who-made-history 6 (scandals)
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Women who changed history - (children's books)
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Thank you Kelly and Kendra… I was curious as to what we had this year vs the 2022 list we are making.
Are there any types of prompt that people think need a boost? Just curious
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I think we could use another cover prompt! I was hoping for handwriting on the cover to get in, might resubmit that one later.
Hannah wrote: "I think we could use another cover prompt! I was hoping for handwriting on the cover to get in, might resubmit that one later."I really liked the handwriting on the cover. I had several books picked out. I voted for it and would vote for it again if you proposed it.
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I have a long list with handwriting on the cover, and I liked the books. I also liked the one showing people's backs - especially because I liked the books themselves. Emily do you remember if either of those two came close?
I wasn't interested in biographies (or even non-fiction) until I saw the new lists of books about women who changed the world. The blurbs alone are inspiring.
I would be up for a cover prompt but I’d like it to have some listopia’s. I down voted the handwriting one because I found it really hard to search for ideas and confusing (I know all the writing is digital font not actually handwriting).
What about a another title prompt? I was thinking...A book with a one-word title.
There is a HUGE listopia already out there for this prompt: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
At a glance, I have quite a few books with a one-word title on my TBR.
Or another title prompt that I thought of: A book with a question mark in the title. There is a lengthy listopia for this too: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3...
I kind of like the one-word title better, but this one could also be fun.
Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist
I have a list of priority books for next year and some of them don't fit any of the prompts so I'm looking at it that way too. I often work backwards to think of a prompt to fit a specific book when I make suggestions.At the moment I'm struggling with a prompt for The Tidal Zone. I was thinking something along the lines of 'a book featuring a non-traditional gender role' as the main character is a (male) stay-at-home parent. I will wait and see how the women prompts in the current poll fare as people will probably find it too much to have multiple gender-based prompts, especially since we also have female detective on the list.
Thomas wrote: "Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist"You can use it for historical fiction, I see that's the first genre tag for that book.
Alicia wrote: "Thomas wrote: "Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist"You can use it fo..."
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Thomas wrote: "Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist"There are flowers on the cover, it works for "flora"
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Seems like that could fit under Women Who Changed the World! (bumping people off changes the world in a way)
Hey Beth, could you fit it in one of the continents prompts?
Robin P wrote: "Thomas wrote: "Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist"Seems like that c..."
I think the prompt is women who changed history, not the world. But might also fit. It's on my to-read too and I may get to it this year, so can definitely let you all know.
TBH I'd rather a cover prompt than another title, unless I really like the title.I had suggested A Full Name in the Title, and I had also floated A Cardinal Direction in the Title early on in the process but never suggested it.
What about another author prompt, or do we have enough of those? We have 4 so far, and 3 of them are diversity prompts. I've been pondering Author With 3 Names again (it was a close call), or Author Is Pen Name For Two or More People, e.g. Christina Lauren or Liv Constantine.
Nancy wrote: "TBH I'd rather a cover prompt than another title, unless I really like the title.I had suggested A Full Name in the Title, and I had also floated A Cardinal Direction in the Title early on in the..."
A non diversity author propt would be great.
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Yes, you're right, it was "changed history"!
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I had suggested A Full Name in the Title, and I had also floated A Cardinal Direction in the Title early on in the..."
I like full name, direction and author with 3 names. I think pen name for 2 or more people is too restrictive. Though I would read Charles Todd, which is a mother and son, most people probably don't have any of these on their TBR.
Alicia wrote: "Hey Beth, could you fit it in one of the continents prompts?"Yes it would fit. :) I was trying to avoid UK/US settings for those prompts but may have to scrap that if I can't find anywhere else to put it!
It does feel like we have a lot of title prompts compared to covers so it would be good to balance them with another cover prompt or 2.Having said that, I did really like the full name in the title idea you suggested Nancy, and I would probably vote for it again if it was resubmitted.
I’d really like more of the “original” prompts in, especially the 2021 Goodreads Choice! I wouldn’t mind a “Around The Year” inspired prompt, and I always love the a book you meant to read last year!
Thomas wrote: "Honestly right now I jsut want a prompt that would fit The Lost Apothecary I know I shoudln't do my prompts like that but sometimes I can't resist"Atmospheric
I would like more theme and character prompts. We have 3 of each, while cover and title prompts are 7 in total.
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I think you are right Thomas. There are 32 listed in the Intro thread plus the three new ones from poll 10, that is 35. We need 17 more prompts, 2 from the contests and 15 from voting. Emily just miscounted is all, it happens :)
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