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Jul 02, 2021 02:28AM

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Oh it's amazing. But I will read some other books before I return to it. This #2 took me quite a while, and I'm in the mood for something easier now. ;P


An interesting look at pre-Colombian Mesoamerican civilizations. This exploration of these Civilizations answers some questions but opens up many others. Still, it is a good book to start reading about these Neighbors that never really had a chance to advance past the point of contact with Western encroachment. It is a shame in many ways that this was the case and it is an admirable thing to study how such Civilizations functioned. Doing this can bridge the gulf of understanding of what was and what is now.


This book was interesting but very difficult to read. The information provided is wonderful and a great help in understanding the process that took place to lead to major decisions during the war. Might have given it five stars if it wasn't like reading a diary from the most unfriendly of my relatives. You know the one that comes to all the reunions and hates everybody and everything and isn't in the least afraid to let all and sundry know it. Reading this book you really get the feeling that Alan Brooke was one miserable individual. He rarely had decent comments to say about anyone and usually, if they disagreed with him on any particular they were 'incompetent or strategically inept'
There is one passage where he talks about Eisenhower's books saying that Brooke came up to him and said thank god you held your ground, I was wrong. Brooke states he doesn't recall the conversation going in that vein. I am sure that would be the case since I can't imagine from reading this book that Field Marshal Alan Brooke ever apologized to anyone in the military for anything.
Lot's of great information in the book, but be aware the author doesn't earn points as a likable individual.


Informative, but in general nothing, you won't find in other books. It does have the advantage of being easy to read and interspaces actual quotes from individuals who were part of the actual events without disrupting the flow of the narrative. It does suffer from not enough maps and in the end, the conclusion is enough to make me want to kick something.
To go all the way through a book on Market/Garden Plunder/Varsity and then get a helping on how both operations were showing how good a General Montgomery was is not what I was expecting. He concludes that the failure of Market/Garden was due in large measure to the airborne plan with the single road for the advance of XXX Corps thrown in as almost an afterthought. Of course, Monty wasn't to blame for not having a firm handle on the planning. The Americans crossing the Rhine twice before Monty did is tossed aside as sideshow efforts that didn't amount to much. All in all, while the book was enjoyable enough it will be traded in at the first opportunity in the hopes of getting something more substantial.

and the first book in the series is only $0.99, the second is $3.99 and the last one is $5.99


I must get round to that one!

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Am now reading The Fall of Koli which I'm enjoying a lot so far.


I just finished a reread of that myself! It's an excellent book.


How are the sequels to this book?

How are the sequels to this book?"
I found them to be excellent, although I think I've enjoyed everything he's written. His characters are great, and this world is very complex. Hopefully you'll enjoy the series as much as I did!

Foundation and Foundation and Empire by Isaac Asimov: fall clearly under the category 'at least I've read them'. I left them without review, cause I'm fed up with folks jumping in and telling me what I didn't get and why I can't rate like I did etc. It was boring as hell, no matter how famous the series is.
The Lottery and Other Stories by Shirley Jackson was my first book by this author. I read her biography with my non-fiction group (because it was available on storytel for me) and I got curious about her. Really good writer! It is great how she describes the slow horror in the mundane.
Shakespeare for Squirrels was my first Christopher Moore. Aside from the fact that one never goes wrong with some Midsummer Night's Dream rip off, Moore's prose is witty and clever and wonderful to read. I will read more of his works for sure.
The Seventh Perfection by Daniel Polansky was a terrific experience. A novella written without any narration or description parts. The reader has to get the story solely by one side of various dialogues the protagonist conducts on her way. We never hear the protagonist, only the answers of her respective opposites. Utterly fascinating. Tops easily every single novella on the Hugo shortlist by miles.


Onto something quick and light: Marauder.

The Seventh Perfection: so happy you liked it! Looking forward to reading it later this month.

I agree with Eva. I haven't read those, but I have read certain other highly-regarded golden age SF, and rated them far lower than you rated these. Ratings are personal, not based on how others feel about things. If nothing else, "They were boring as hell" should stand on its own.
I agree with them, but also say you're allowed to make decisions for your own comfort, and if that decision is "post my own feelings and message Allison so she can beat up meanies" that is a legit stance that I would help with.


Foundation and Foundation and Empire by Isaac Asimov: ... "They were boring as hell"...
I had the same reaction when I read the core trilogy 50 years ago. "Ponderous" is the specific word that comes to mind whenever I think back on them. Sorry that there was so little beyond "at least I've read them" to be gained.





Needless to say, I was unimpressed, and had no desire to continue with the series.
Makes me think of this SMBC comic.


I read KJ Charles's pulpy 1920's spy romance trilogy, Will Darling Adventures, but likewise, an otherwise favorite author fell flat. I love the emotional honestly of her characters, so all the lies and betrayals made it rough going until the 3rd book wrapped it all up.
Currently about halfway through The Unbroken for the Amazing Eights Challenge, and also working on Women & Power: A Manifesto for some non-fiction reading on the side.

@ Melissa, I recently read Clockwork Boys and I absolutely hated it - I won't ever read Kingfisher again.

@ Melissa, I recently r..."
I've both loved and hated classics. Although I understand the feeling, and have felt it too, you certainly shouldn't feel like you have to like them, or even read them at all!
That's a shame you didn't like Clockwork Boys, because I do love so many of her books. Enough so that I was even willing to try out a horror novel, despite not being a horror person at all. My only complaint for the Clocktaur War was that the duology was split into two books, when I think it could have stayed a single volume. But I liked it enough to overlook the publishing pet peeve.
Fair enough though, I can't say I recommend continuing with an author after a 1-star read.

@ Melissa..."
That was exactly my biggest problem. The first book didn't show any main antagonist and was just an introduction to the conflict. A book should always have a beginning and an ending. The latter wasn't there in Clockwork Boys. I gave it 1*. Aside from that, the character interactions were also very cringeworthy and not realistic at all. It could've been so much subtler. So I promised myself not to pick up any Kingfisher work in my life. Of course, if you enjoy the books, go ahead of course, everyone likes different things, but it's not for me.

Foundation and Foundation and Empire by Isaac Asimov: fall clearly under the category 'at least I've read them'. I left them witho..."
I find that someone's view on a book is their view. Why argue about it. I liked the Foundation series, but I can see it is not for everyone. That is what makes the world go around, well that and money.
I am glad you enjoyed the Christopher Moore book, I am looking forward to getting around and reading that one. So far my favorite is still 'Lamb' but that might be because of my background. Enjoy your exploration.

I am sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy it. I loved the series, but it would be like telling you that you should love some food you don't like. What you enjoy is a personal thing, it isn't something that anyone else can tell you and make real. And always remember and never forget, that the best way to deal with trolls is to wait for the Sun to come up and then they turn to stone. Three out of four Gandalf's recommend it.

Yeah, a great deal of 'classic' Sci-Fi/Fantasy does have that edge to it. Although I have to admit I sometimes dislike redone classics where the main protagonist is switched to a Woman. This is mostly beef with historical fiction. If your going to bother to write something historically based should pay a bit of attention to the ugly reality of it. But if you are on another world, or in the distant future, should allow for the fact that things change. Such is life though that authors are a product of their times and only a rare few break the mold.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

This series started off great, with good humor and well-done action scenes, but it unfortunately didn't take long to drift off into treadmill territory. May or may not continue after this.
v. 1 review
v. 2 review
v. 3 review
On to something different! Next up is the ARC of Capture the Crown that I won in a goodreads giveaway. The blurb makes it seem like a fantasy spy adventure, which could be fun.



Foundation and Foundation and Empire by Isaac Asimov: fall clearly under the category 'at least I've read them'. I left them witho..."
Eva wrote: "Gabi: please do review them! Just think how many young girls get the recommendation to read them if they want to know what the SF genre is like, and then bounce off of the whole genre in response! ..."
I think I have thick skin then because Asimov never annoyed me in the 'sexist' direction and I started sci-fi by reading all his books. Robert A. Heinlein however, is an author I completely have given up reading.
I agree that the Foundation series has a bit of outdated and sexist issues but it was the first space opera series I read so I love it for that reason. And Asimov wrote a great female character called Susan Calvin who is a great sci-fi heroine.
More on Susan Calvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_C...
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