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Rusalka wrote: "Shirley wrote: "Trying to make sense of this.The way I understand it is that the more people infected, the better the community is at becoming immune. Herd immunity. Downside? Many more people dyi..."Thank you so much for taking the time to explain, Rusalka. This is something we haven't experienced before, at least not on this scale, and it will take time for governments to work through the options. Just have to trust that they will have the gumption to make hard decisions. That, and keeping ourselves safe. It makes me sad to hear comments from our friends on YLTO who are suffering so much.
Janice wrote: "Renee wrote: "I myself am beginning to feel one of the other effects of all this. I can feel myself becoming depressed. I know this will end but I just want to crawl in bed and sleep."I'm right a..."So good to hear you are able to find joy in baking, even if you are passing "corona" to your friend. That made me laugh.
Renee wrote: "I myself am beginning to feel one of the other effects of all this. I can feel myself becoming depressed. I know this will end but I just want to crawl in bed and sleep."Feeling for you Renee.
Sarah wrote: "The thing with the herd immunity is the number of deaths that will result. Also herd immunity hasn't been tried with a pandemic before I believe. It's risky. It also presumes that once we have it, ..." I didn't know that Sarah. I assumed that if you had it you couldn't get it again.
Margo wrote: "Shirley wrote: "Trying to make sense of this.
The way I understand it is that the more people infected, the better the community is at becoming immune. Herd immunity. Downside? Many more people dyi..."
Thinking of you Margot. I can't imaging being stuck in a bedroom for weeks. It would feel like jail.
I feel you with the asthma Sarah. I don't have asthma but I do have farmers lung a little. A cold, also a coronavirus by the way, goes straight into my chest I can only imagine if I catch this. And last year my daily inhaler which I'm supposed to use twice a day went from about $30 for 2 month supply to over $300. They gave me some one year coupon to get a reduced price. Last month or 2 months ago went to refill the inhaler and it is now $350. O wasn't paying it so I haven't used my inhaler for a while now. I've been doing quite well but we've also implemented many things to cut down on dust in the 8 years since I first got the inhaler. But I'm a little scared of covid 19. That stopping of my inhaler business could bite me in the ass. I hope not. Anything strenuous would make me wheeze even with the inhaler. I'm being pretty careful myself to stay away from everyone
Side note. In past 8 years doctor has told me I have farmers lung, emphysema, copd and asthma. Tbh I don't know what the official ruling is
Wow those prices are steep for inhalers Travis! I'm so pleased I don't have to pay that kind of money otherwise I'd have to go without them too. I pay £10 a month for a pre-payment card. It allows me unlimited prescriptions. Works out well for me as I have 3-4 prescriptions per month and each would be around £9 if I paid individually.Rob's company has started furloughing their staff. Unfortunately, Rob started after the cutoff date and so cannot be furloughed. So now he has to go in to work more to do the 'essential work' so that he keeps getting paid. And they'll be more staff in than there has been of late due to there being others who fall between the gaps of the government regulations. Trying not to get annoyed. It's not his employer's fault. And there's no changing it. But I don't like that he'll be out more. Of course, that might all change as there was a big Covid19 meeting today about lockdown so who knows what will happen.
I'm frustrated today. I need to pick up my prescriptions from Costco. Right now, they only let 50 people into the store at a time and there are long lengthy lineups. I can't stand for any length of time because of my arthritis. When I called the pharmacy, I learned that my doctor only prescribed 1 month for each prescription. Apparently, the government is restricting prescriptions to 1 month. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose? Aren't we supposed to be staying at home and staying out of the stores? Does this new policy support that? I could have picked up 6 months today and not been back in the store. Alberta isn't supposed to peak until mid-May, which means I'll need to repeat this process during the peak of the virus.
Costco isn't offering curbside pickup, in fact the person I talked to didn't even know what that was. Seriously?? They suggested a local pick up and delivery company. When I called them, they said they don't do pickups at Costco because it's too long of a wait in the lineups.
The girl said that I can bypass the line by going to the exit and telling them that I need the pharmacy and they will escort me in. I guess I'll try that, and if that doesn't work, I'll be in the lineup. In pain.
Janice that is ridiculous. I don't think companies have thought through some of their policies/decisions. My drugstore wants people to do the drive thru pick-up. Just what I want to do is to talk into that little phone that 300 other people have used. I'm good for about 6 weeks with prescriptions, but will run out by June 10th our quarantine freedom date.I shouldn't really complain about that date. I read a news article this morning in the AP about our governor (Northam/Virginia). He is the only governor in the states who is a doctor, so when things started to look dicey he was one of the first to close schools and has ordered the longest state stay-put order. They believe that because schools closed so early it may have contributed to our lower numbers. He was also ordering medical supplies earlier than most. Because of this we are actually doing ok as a state and have flattened the curve to help the hospitals. We still have thousands with the virus, but it is actually lower than other states per capita.
Now off to My Zoom Thirsty Thursday Happy Hour. Be Well everyone.
Janice, that's awful. I feel like some of the policies they've put in place make it more difficult to follow the guidelines. For example, my regular grocery store is constantly empty of several products. They have instilled a policy where you can only buy two of many items in order to combat the hoarding and empty shelves. Unfortunately, if you can only buy two of some things and can't find any of others, you would end up going to the grocery store more frequently than normal instead of less. I also don't understand how the shelves are still so empty if they are limiting people on how much they can buy. Where is it all going?
I ended up having to do my shopping two days in a row and going to a different store the second day. I was able to get what I needed there, so I'll be going there first next time and hopefully will only need to make one trip.
It didn't turn out as bad as I feared. I went to the exit door and there were signs up saying that it was the entrance for pharmacy. I went straight to pharmacy and got my prescriptions. I'm so glad I didn't have to stand in the lineup. I'm sure people must have been there for over an hour.
Masks are slow catching on here. I only saw one person in the store wearing one. I thought there would be more.
Glad it went well, Janice. I’m starting to see more masks, but there are still more people without. I’m surprised by how many workers don’t wear them and also aren’t practicing social distancing. I think if you work in a grocery store or customer service, etc, it makes sense to take precautions when you are potentially exposed all day.
I noticed the same thing, Kristie. Last week my husband and I went to Walmart and Home Depot. None of the workers were using mask. We did use them but it should be better if they also used them. It is strange. I also saw our mailman using mask only one day last week, and never again.
I got some face masks in the mail today. Not sure if they were made by mother in law alone or is she helped the kids see them up. It's spider web designs
I think the biggest problems is there are so many conspiracy theories people don't know what to believe. Most people either don't know anyone who's been sick or have only had a mild case. If you go back a month ago I was of the opinion that this was being used to cover up the impending stock market crash. It's unnatural for an economy to just go up. It needs corrections. You want the line graph to be more of a wave. It was just going up and anytime it tried to correct itself the govt stepped in to manipulate the market.Ok enough with that.
Basically I'm not convinced there's more at play here and the situation isn't being used to cover up other things. For instance look at how many issues people were bickering over before now you've probably forgotten a lot of the things that were making headlines.
At the same time people are getting sick. I know people who have been sick. People are dying.
I'm of the belief that of all the govt the CDC is the most trustworthy. Idk why I just feel that way. I feel like CDC recommendations need to be taken serious.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't believe the pandemic is a hoax but I also don't believe to a certain extent we are being manipulated. The question is for what purpose what would the end game be for it all? I most certainly don't know. So for now we take the social distancing very serious and follow the recommendation. You're gonna look pretty stupid if you've been on some full blown conspiracy theory and been completely careless and next week you're in need of a ventilator to find out they don't have one for you.
At the same time I've read books and when it comes to a coronavirus outbreak I mean this is it from the sickness right through to the actions being taken. There's no reason not to believe it. With global travel and people and packages shipped all over the world in hours and days honestly it's amazing we don't have more widespread pandemics more frequently
I hope I don't come across wrong here but I think we as a people needed this to happen. We could have much more devastating pandemics. We are seeing all the trouble and the flaws in the system and hopefully will be able to learn and move forward with better preparedness for a possible next time. And life is so fast paced everyone needed to be forced to stop and take a look around.And by no means am I saying anyone deserves to be sick or die. I don't wish that on anyone at all. I guess that's just trying to find some positives from the situation.
I know what I'm attempting to say. Let's not let the deaths be for nothing. Let them teach us so we can grow and be more knowledgeable. For people to die and we learn nothing from it then it's all just a huge waste
Some of the conspiracy theories are just plain nutty. My mom thinks that this was started to rid the U.S. of its elderly population so they won't have to pay so much in Social Security and medicare. My mom is one of the smartest people I know and the idea that she thinks this is baffling. When I ask her where she's hearing this. She just says that this is what her friends are all talking about. It's very frustrating.Question: Is anybody wearing a mask when they go for walks in their neighborhood?
I heard that same rumor about China, Jayme.
Kristie wrote: "I heard that same rumor about China, Jayme."I've heard the rumor about China also.
And no, I haven't been wearing or seen anyone wearing masks on our walks. We are just going through our neighborhood though and leaving plenty of space. I'm not sure about people walking of trails, etc.
For now my favorite conspiracy theory is Epstein didn't kill himself in jail. He's actually alive and testifying on all sorts of high power people so they made up the virus to cover up investigating a lot of high profile peopleWhat's funny is when it first started I said the Russians were to blame. After all they're to blame for everything these days right. I was reading a book about pandemics and I can't remember what it was now but there was a virus let loose years ago by a disgruntled Russian scientist. Russia was experimenting on building a super virus to use in warfare. They aren't the only ones several countries do the same. Anyway a scientist mad that his co-workers didn't give him enough credit got mad and contaminated some people for revenge.
The CDC was able to contain it before it got out of hand. Also the disgruntled scientist thing has happened a few times in the past but CDC has handled it quickly
Oh the anthrax in the early 2000's was believed to be a disgruntled scientist. The court never finished the trial on him because he committed suicide before it was over. Which many feel was an act based on guilt and fear he was going to be seen guilty.
My prediction is if we get things manageable. The media and politicians will spend months fighting overYou over reacted and destroyed the economy the numbers were no where near what you said sick and deaths would be
The other side will say yeah because of isolation and all the steps we implemented we prevented this from being so bad
I side with the 2nd side only because I have a whole regimine for every cow that freshens. People ask why do you spend all that money when you don't have problems with fresh cows . Um. I hope my act of prevention is why I don't have problems.
It's the old chicken or the egg arguments l
Janice, I'm happy you are able to laugh again. You've had a truly horrible year. it is so hard for those who live alone anyway and now you've lost Cleo. It's no wonder you're depressed. I think you are incredibly strong to be able to do the things you do, and to provide so much fun and distraction to all of us (that goes for all the Mods). If you need to cry, that's fine. Just remember we are all here for you, and for each other, to lean on.
Travis wrote: "My prediction is if we get things manageable. The media and politicians will spend months fighting overYou over reacted and destroyed the economy the numbers were no where near what you said sick ..."
Oh, yeah. I am sure we have months, if no years, of discussions, interviews, shows, books, movies, series, etc. about this pandemic and all the different theories and point of views... Exhausting.
I fall on the same side, Travis. I have a friend who has stated already to wait for this to be over and we'll all see that this was just a big overreaction. I tried to explain that yes, the numbers won't be bad, but that's due to the measures we're taking. She could not understand that point of view at all.
Margo wrote: "Janice, I'm happy you are able to laugh again. You've had a truly horrible year. it is so hard for those who live alone anyway and now you've lost Cleo. It's no wonder you're depressed. I think y..."
Thank you for those words, Margo. That means a lot.
Our book club got together last night on Zoom and had some great laughs. We've decided that we'll go ahead with our May meeting via Zoom. We'll each bring to our own table our drink of choice and appie of choice and eat, drink and be merry while we chat.
Kristie wrote: "I fall on the same side, Travis. I have a friend who has stated already to wait for this to be over and we'll all see that this was just a big overreaction. I tried to explain that yes, the numbers..."I watched the head of W.H.O. discuss the "over-reaction" thing. He said that it will seem like we are over-reacting. If we do this right, we will think we over-reacted when it's over. If we didn't do it right, we will think we didn't do enough.
How is it that any credible organization or witness these days is vilified so badly by the opposing side that they are no longer deemed credible? It doesn't matter what argument you put out, it's torn down by, "They aren't a credible source."
Not being credible. That ties in to my wanting to know how the govt is manipulating the situation. And it will be. And it starts by taking away someone's credibility then they are able to twist facts just a little.I know this is or will happen. For what purpose or what end I have no idea. But we constantly see the experts called in and then the other side brings someone in to knock them down and then sides are made and the people are divided and ultimately that's what the powers that be need is for us to have division. They can't control us if we all United and that scares them
Our P.M. has just announced that Ireland will be under lockdown until 5 May.
Margo wrote: "Janice, I'm happy you are able to laugh again. You've had a truly horrible year. it is so hard for those who live alone anyway and now you've lost Cleo. It's no wonder you're depressed. I think y..."
I agree with Margo's comments, Janice. I'm so sorry that you have had the year you have, and we truly appreciate all you do for us all and love having you and your cheeky humour around :D Hope things turn around soon *hugs*
Margo wrote: "Our P.M. has just announced that Ireland will be under lockdown until 5 May."That is a long way, Margo.
Our lockdown in Pennsylvania is still until April 30th, but since yesterday it is official that schools will remain closed the rest of the scholar year. So, this is my new life. :)
Janice wrote: "Our book club got together last night on Zoom and had some great laughs. We've decided that we'll go ahead with our May meeting via Zoom. We'll each bring to our own table our drink of choice and appie of choice and eat, drink and be merry while we chat."My "craft" group had a zoom last night, and after a few people i don't know very well left, Lexx jumped in as did my brother's interjections through his fiance's mic and a couple of other partners. I think we hung up at 1am, I drank far too much just as I was so distracted and happy talking to people, and ended up very ill.
So glad we have all this technology. Even 5 years ago we would have been stuffed.
Our country health something said yesterday he's hoping kids can go to school for the month of June. I don't think it's going to happen. I also don't think he should have said such a thing because people will think oh we don't need to isolate they're talking about schools open in June. People need to think about the actions of their words before going on a radio and announcing things
I posted a video to my personal private Facebook page yesterday. Just to make people laugh. If I knew how to post it here I would. I was just being a fool. Got my new Corona stache and I lip sync to total eclipse of the heart. Everything so doom and gloom. Some of us have to step up and make fools of ourselves to lighten the mood out there
Margo wrote: "Our P.M. has just announced that Ireland will be under lockdown until 5 May."Oh that's hard, Margo. I'm working from home until July, so we can be buddies!! Make sure you hang out in the garden today. I saw the news said the weather was around 23 and sunny in your neck of woods (I watch the multicultural tv channel news here as they talk about the rest of the world, including the weather on all continents).
One issue via Facebook is a thing popped up saying audio is muted for some countries due to copyrights so no sense posting in an international groupStupid copyrights
Travis wrote: "I posted a video to my personal private Facebook page yesterday. Just to make people laugh. If I knew how to post it here I would. I was just being a fool. Got my new Corona stache and I lip sync t..."LOL you'll have to upload it somewhere for us to access a link. Depending on your privacy settings on FB, you could just link us that. If you have good privacy settings, you can just make that post public and not your profile, and link the link. If you would like to keep your personal private facebook personal and private, you'll have to upload it to something like YouTube or Vine and link us that link I am afraid.
I agree though, we just all need a laugh, and i am very much appreciating anyone providing us with one.
Speaking of that, I love bored people at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BZN...Lexx's family are linking each other challenges (particularly the kids who are between 27 and 9) on Whats App. I told them to up the bar to this: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=260...
Oh and if you don't mind swearing, like a lot of swearing, this guy is giving the most Aussie cooking classes online telling people they are are idiots for buying ready made food when it's so easy to make. I spent a lot of time laughing at these today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwhd...
Remember. LOTS of swearing.
Oh no, I've just seen the footage of the NY dead being buried in mass graves - people whe couldn't afford a funeral, may they rest in peace.I never thought I'd see such things in the civalized world in 2020.
I'll look into it later Rusalka. The idea of sharing here just came into my head as I wrote that
Margo wrote: "Our P.M. has just announced that Ireland will be under lockdown until 5 May."They are talking the end of May here. We're not expected to peak until mid-May.
Rusalka wrote: "Speaking of that, I love bored people at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BZN...Lexx's family are linking each other challenges (particularly the kids who are between 2..."
I laughed so hard at the dog video. Hilarious! And the cooking lesson taught me something too. (view spoiler)
Thanks for posting these, Rus!
Rusalka wrote: "Speaking of that, I love bored people at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BZN...Lexx's family are linking each other challenges (particularly the kids who are between 2..."
Lol!
We have restrictions on prescriptions here too. No stockpiling. Can only order 1 month and not able to order next lot early. There is a shortage of inhalers here. As everyone wwho has eever had a bad cold and given an inhaler has tried to get one thinking it will help if they catch the virus and those who need them are struggling.
The conspiracy theory here is that 5G caused coronavirus. 5 5G masts here eere set on firee because of it! Crazy!Some people are wearing masks here but we've not been told to or recommended to. Just for frontline workers. If they can get them
I'll check those videos out later Rusalka. Aand would love to see your video Travis!We have ro wait until next week to find out about lockdown. Likely to be an extension. It was supposed to end monday. Apparently we have 2 weeks until the peak?!?!
I want to share the crazy conspiracy theory a good friends teen age son told her. There is a show called the walking dead. It involves zombies created by a virus. The show ratings are slipping. He is convinced that the show runners created the pandemic as a stunt to boost ratings. It just got out of hand .LOL
I think he may have a future as science fiction writer.
Lol. The part I like is how much power some people think people have. Like who are you having cocktails with Friday night to start a pandemic for TV ratings
You made my day, Rusalka! I watched all of the videos. Thank you.I almost fell off my chair laughing at the swearing cook but he had some good points. LOL!!!
I'm glad you all got a laugh. The cook has four cooking videos inspired by bad panicking buying choices (I have no idea about his content before that) and they are all gold. He actually seems to be quite a talented cook.
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On facemasks. You don't need N95. They only need to be able to prevent spit basically from passing. Everyone is sewing masks up now
CDC recommendation is flannel against your skin and cloth on outside . My wife prefers 4 straps so she can tie it around her neck to hang and then tie around her head when she wants it in use
Many people are seeing rectangular masks with a loop on each end. Usually elastic. Then it covers your mouth and nose and the loops go around each ear to hold it