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Ursula Le Guin year-long reading challenge
Yay!! It's happening! I'm going to join in for at least a few of the Hainish and the last two Earthsea, gods willing :D



I wasn't really thinking of doing separate threads for the non-sff, and just keeping any discussion of those here in the main thread. Does that sound okay?

Sounds excellent.

This isn't part of the challenge, but: I also have Le Guin's Lavinia on my list for 2019.


@Anna: I'll put Catwings on the "to be scheduled" list as well!

I can't see it in search anymore either. Most of the books I bought in the Kids' sale a year ago are now unavailable to buy in Europe/Finland. I can obviously listen to the ones I already paid for, but such a huge amount has been removed since then, from all genres. That's the main reason I stopped paying for Audible.


@Anna: I'll put Catwings on the "to be scheduled" list as well!"
Sounds good. I read The Aeneid this year and I keep meaning to pick up Lavinia...



I read the first Earthsea saga this year and hope to read the rest through the next year, along with a couple of others by Le Guin, not sure which but will keep an eye on this discussion now.

Amazon: "Prepared in close consultation with the author, this expanded edition features new material added just before her death, including for the first time two “missing” chapters of the Kesh novel Dangerous People. The volume concludes with a selection of Le Guin’s essays about the novel’s genesis and larger aims, a note on its editorial and publication history, and an updated chronology of Le Guin’s life and career."


And I'm jealous for the music!




Next up is No Time to Spare: Thinking About What Matters. The first real SFF books will be the anthology Hive of Dreams: Contemporary Science Fiction from the Pacific Northwest and the book The Lathe of Heaven at the end of the month.


I lied, it's over a thousand pages >_<




(It's probably a sticker, but still.)

(and that does look like a sticker - thank goodness - though, hopefully on a protective plastic, not directly on the jacket)

@Maggie: Yeah, I don't think I'd be brave enough to try this if I hadn't liked pretty much all of her work that I've tried. I'll be reading Rocannon's World, Planet of Exile, and City of Illusions in March. Lavinia will be toward the end of the year.



Awesome. I've been finding it pretty interesting so far. I don't agree with her on all of her opinion posts, but the short blog format has been great, as it lets me read one or two in between the other things I'm reading. I have to say, I really like the cat-related posts - she has a great talent for observing and writing about animal behavior.

(view spoiler)

I did enjoy how simple the stories were and centered around just one or two characters. For once I was able to follow the plot of high fantasy XD

Only the first story in Hive of Dreams is by Le Guin [edit: I lied, there's a second UKL story in here as well], but I'm intrigued to read it in the context of other PNW SF stories. (Yes, it was an intentional choice to read this anthology right before Lathe of Heaven, which for me will always be the quintessential PNW sci-fi.)

I did read the two Le Guin stories, as well as the other stories in the ecolit section of the book. The first, "The Good Trip", was interesting, because it's not the type of story I usually expect from Le Guin. I liked it, and it was certainly a very Portland/Oregon story, but it was not what I was expecting. The second story, "The Rock That Changed Things" was much more of the Le Guin-type sociological sci-fi that I usually think of. I could have done without (CW, not very spoilery) (view spoiler) , but overall I thought it explored an interesting idea.

I'll probably read the book in bits and pieces, as it feels applicable to other things I'm reading (there is an entire section that is just the intros to books from the Hainish cycle, for instance).



Awesome. I've been finding it pretty interesting so far. I don't ..."
I liked the cat posts too. The most interesting essays were probably "Papa H." (on Homer) and "It Doesn't Have to Be the Way It Is."
Any thoughts on those? The latter is interesting mostly because of the contrast between the playful or subversive element in fantasy, which is what the title is about, and this:
"Yet as Chesterton pointed out, fantasy stops short of nihilist violence, of destroying all laws & burning all the boats... Fate, Luck, Necessity are as inexorable in Middle-earth as in Colonus or South Dakota. The fantasy tale begins here and ends there (or back here) where the subtle and ineluctable obligations of narrative art have taken it. Down on the bedrock, things are as they have to be. It's only everywhere above the bedrock that nothing has to be the way it is."
I read The Language of the Night: Essays on Fantasy and Science Fiction last year. I don't know if I will have a chance to reread it, but there are some really interesting essays. I think I remember it well enough to follow along if people join in and read it.


If anyone else wants to read about the Kesh with me, I'm happy to start a separate discussion thread. Otherwise, I'll keep posting updates here.
Books mentioned in this topic
The Lathe of Heaven (other topics)The Birthday of the World and Other Stories (other topics)
The Word for World Is Forest (other topics)
The Unreal and the Real: Selected Stories, Volume Two: Outer Space, Inner Lands (other topics)
The Unreal and the Real: Selected Stories, Volume One: Where on Earth (other topics)
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Kelly Link (other topics)Federico García Lorca (other topics)
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Here's my very tentative schedule and links to discussion threads for previous and new group/buddy reads. Please feel free to suggest any UKL books that you love and don't see on the list!
Currently Reading :
The Kesh
Always Coming Home
Earthsea:
The Farthest Shore - discussion *spoilers*
Tehanu - discussion
Tales from Earthsea
The Other Wind
Other Earthsea stories (The Daughter of Odren, Firelight, Earthsea Revisioned)
Finished :
Jan 1: Out Here: Poems and Images from Steens Mountain Country
Jan 7: No Time to Spare: Thinking About What Matters
Jan 14: Hive of Dreams: Contemporary Science Fiction from the Pacific Northwest
Jan 21: The Lathe of Heaven - discussion *spoilers*
Jan 28: Way of the Water's Going: Images of the Northern California Coastal Range
Feb 11: Interviews: Conversations with Ursula K. Le Guin and Ursula K. Le Guin: The Last Interview: and Other Conversations
Mar 4: Poetry: Blue Moon Over Thurman Street,Wild Angels, Going Out with Peacocks and Other Poems, Incredible Good Fortune: New Poems
Mar 11: Rocannon's World
Mar 18: Planet of Exile
Mar 25: City of Illusions
Apr 1: Lao Tzu: Tao Te Ching
Apr 8: The Left Hand of Darkness - discussion *spoilers* + Gethen short stories: Winter's King and Coming of Age in Karhide
Apr 15: The Day Before the Revolution and The Dispossessed - discussion *spoilers*
Apr 22: Mythmakers and Lawbreakers: Anarchist Writers on Fiction
Apr 29: A Fisherman of the Inland Sea
May 6: Four Ways to Forgiveness (+ Old Music and the Slave Women = Five Ways)
May 13: The Telling
May 20: The Birthday of the World and Other Stories
May 24: The Wind's Twelve Quarters
Jun 3: The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas + Lullaby for a Lost World + literary analysis
Jun 10: The Wild Girls + Pity and Shame + Calx
BONUS: The Language of the Night: Essays on Fantasy and Science Fiction
Jun 17: Buffalo Gals and Other Animal Presences
Jun 24: Dancing at the Edge of the World: Thoughts on Words, Women, Places
July 1: A Wizard of Earthsea - discussion *spoilers*
July 8: The Tombs of Atuan - discussion *spoilers*
Future Books : (schedule TBD, please let me know if you'd like to do a BR!)
Very Far Away from Anywhere Else
Steering the Craft: Exercises and Discussions on Story Writing for the Lone Navigator or the Mutinous Crew
The Eye of the Heron
Orsinia:
Malafrena
Orsinian Tales
Unlocking the Air and Other Stories
The Compass Rose
Words Are My Matter: Writings About Life and Books, 2000–2016, with A Journal of a Writer's Week
King Dog
Lavinia
Searoad
Changing Planes
The Wave in the Mind: Talks and Essays on the Writer, the Reader and the Imagination
Dreams Must Explain Themselves
Catwings series
Annals of the Western Shore
Gifts
Voices
Powers
The Beginning Place
poetry (Finding My Elegy: New and Selected Poems, So Far So Good Final Poems: 2014-2018, Late in the Day: Poems 2010–2014)
Recommendations for other works :
A Dreamer's Tales
Alpha Ralpha Boulevard
The Unicorn in the Garden
Martian Time-Slip
The Book of the New Sun
Sarah Canary
Cosmicomics
The Elephant's Journey
New Utopian Politics of Ursula K. Le Guin's the Dispossessed
Aurora: Beyond Equality
Star Songs of An Old Primate
We
Islandia
The Invincible
Solaris
The Aleph and Other Stories
Aniara: An Epic Science Fiction Poem
The Dazzle of Day
He Who Shapes